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Oh god oh fuck. I thought that was an ego post lmao. THE ONE TIME I DONT MAKE THAT REFERENCE.- GeorgeBailey
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Why switch from Persivul?
Do you like his reaction to the wagon?- GeorgeBailey
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To build a wagon. What's the point of RVS if no one is pressured?In post 30, farside wrote:Any reason you switched to a bw vote after a joke vote?
I obviously don't scumread Persival right now. But I don't townread him either.- GeorgeBailey
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What's wrong with putting someone to L-2? Hammering would be an obvious scum claim.In post 42, PranaDevil wrote:The L-2 is more a scum leaning thing in my mind than a faulty town read.
Like, I get this mindset if it was a newbie game, but most people have the incentive to either unvote or not hammer.- GeorgeBailey
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Honestly, I feel like Scum would be the hesitant voter, for fear of looking scummy.In post 56, Saladman27 wrote:That's why scum would put someone at L-2, to avoid the sus of hammering town.
I can see why this sounds good on paper, but the fact that a confirmed town wont be spearheading the lynch makes the push less valuable. I think the whole point of the IC is that their word is much more valuable than a regular player.In post 61, UnaBombaH wrote:I'd be interested in a thing I've never seen or done before.
Feel free to call me a dummy dumb-dumb if it suits you, butwhat if we all agree that Wake doesn't vote for anyone today?
Hear me out - we obviously want his input and reads throughout the day as much as possible, simply because he is the only conf.town in the game so far.
But we won't be able to lynch scum 100% of the time D1 anyway, even if we had three conf.townies.
So my point is, thatwhoever we end up lynching D1, and whatever their flip might end up being, the wagon will only consist of unconfirmed players.
Does that make sense for anyone?
Because PD gave a brief reason for doing so, as Farside's was a naked vote.In post 102, Knightmare491 wrote:Any reason why you chose to question farside and not PD? He unvoted first.
But Mavs, you pretty much did the same thing. You counter claimed him like 5 pages in. And It's not impossible to have two millers in the game. I don't really think that's a scum-trait. Plus, Drew even said there's probably gonna be a vig that shoots him. It's probably a better bet to let that happen tonight.In post 118, mavsfan41 wrote:Drew’s miller claim had to come after everyone had a chance to post assuming the miller would claim with their first post. If he’s got scum mates, then he KNOWS they’re not the miller and MUST ONLY wait for the townies to post without a claim to snatch up that role.
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I understand, since I haven't commented on Persivul's slot. I think 68 is probably his towniest post so far, which brings him out of null for me.In post 145, Drew-Sta wrote: 6-8 appeared like he was justifying trains, as a form of pressure. I’m not against votes and while bad lynched aren’t good, they do tell us stuff. However, he seemed a little more blasé on it than I’d like.- GeorgeBailey
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Ah, sorry, he never said it directly butIn post 148, Tanner wrote:Sorry, what? When did that happen?
I still think that if there's a vig, he should definitely be the target tonight.In post 79, Drew-Sta wrote:BTW, according to here, I should do the following:
The first school of thought is that you should claim immediately, ideally in your opening post. This ensures that the Cop will not waste an investigation on you. It becomes more likely that you will be lynched or shot by a Vigilante, however; otherwise, it would be too easy for Mafia to fakeclaim Miller as well. This is by far the most common way to play the role on mafiascum.net.
I guess I deviated a little from the norm, but let's get that out of the road.
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Why is your reaction that one of them is lying?In post 152, Tanner wrote:George, is your first reaction to a double Miller claim "oh that's not scum indicative" as opposed to "one of them is fucking lying"?- GeorgeBailey
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Ok, well I didn't know that lmao. I've played with Millers before but not in Normals.In post 160, Tanner wrote:Re George: Borderline Bastard™? I don't think I've ever even heard of something like that.
My first instinct was that just because there's multiple of a role, doesn't mean that it's a fake claim.- GeorgeBailey
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Not really, especially when there's 3 slots that have barely posted.In post 125, UnaBombaH wrote:Anyhoo, I guess we are ready for the lynch now?
Don't think much of anything useful will come from the scumteam anymore, now that one of them is already caught red-handed?
If Double Miller really is that rare, then Drew is def our best chance at scum right now. But rushing the day is questionable.- GeorgeBailey
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I don't actually want Saladman lynched, but I did want his slot to contribute at the time. It felt like people were trying to rush the day when there were people who were plain unreadable.In post 255, mavsfan41 wrote:@George Bailey: your vote is on Saladman27. Say you get what you want and Saladman27 is lynched. And there is also a vig in the game. Who do you believe the vig should target during the night?
But in the case Salad WAS lynched, I would want Drew to get shot.
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The latter was more of a statement, and I haven't posted since then. Calling this out is just plain dishonest.In post 318, Knightmare491 wrote:Another one I don't like is GB, refer 102 and 189, he hasn't responded to the latter.
But to answer, just because it's a declaration doesn't mean it's not a reason??? Like their reason was to not let it get to L-2.
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This is kind of a weird attack on someone being V/LA.In post 215, Drew-Sta wrote:A person who is avoiding this issue. Yes.
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Ah, well statement retracted. Unfortunately I still think you're our best shot today then.
Aight, well i'm interested in hearing from Luca, but I think I need to vote Drew. This dilemma is something that should be sorted out D1.- GeorgeBailey
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Glad we're on the same page then.
Although, if this flips green, would that change your read on Mav?- GeorgeBailey
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I said he should be vig'd when I thought Double Miller wasn't such a big deal. I never advocated for your lynch today, and I thought that people were trying to rush the lynch.In post 381, mavsfan41 wrote:@ George and Drew: why are you guys playing with different miller rules for Drew (saying he should be vig’ed or the obv NK) and me (pushing for my own lynch day 2 seemingly regardless of the Drew flip)?
I also never said you should be lynched day 2 regardless of flip, if Drew flips red I think you're confirmed somewhat. Seems like a weird gambit for scum to do so early.- GeorgeBailey
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And I was asking Farside about her earlier "what would happen if Drew flipped Green" because I wanted to know her commitment to the impossibility of a double Miller.
For this exact reason. Oh, so now it's a possibility? I have a bad feeling this will flip green after this backpedaling. But only one way to find out.In post 354, mavsfan41 wrote:I can’t believe I’m saying this... but might there be two millers?- GeorgeBailey
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So then why was your first reaction to vote me? This was before Persivu's rolecop.In post 483, Knightmare491 wrote:Town better be fucking stacked in this game if there are 2 millers- GeorgeBailey
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Well, I came into today ready to instant vote Mavs, but Persivul confirms him.
I mean, it COULD be possible Mavs and Persivul are a scum team, but it's a bit unlikely. Especially since if one falls, the other will too.
But it's still shitty that I got scumread for believing double miller was possible, and then it turns out to be possible. Mavs backpedaling yesterday was also really worrying.
I think in retrospect, Riabi's wolf looks the worst.
In post 211, Riabi wrote:
Then I'm wrong?In post 209, Drew-Sta wrote:What if there are two millers?
Like, why do they both need to die if you only think one of them is lying? I think he didn't even consider the possibility of double miller. And scum wanted to push the Drew lynch as hard as possible.In post 192, Riabi wrote:All that said, I accept the possibility that there are two millers, but, it doesn't seem very likely to me. I think it's way more likely that one of them (Drew, probably) is lying. Either way, like I said above, I think they both need to die, and as quickly as possible
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farside WAS one of my townreads.
I think Tanner has been townie
Knightmare has been opportunistic.
Mavs and persivul are either super confirmed PR, or literally the scumteam.- GeorgeBailey
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I think your votes feel very opportunistic so far.In post 536, Knightmare491 wrote:@GB what are you trying to say by saying that I'm being opportunistic? You think I'm opportunistic scum? Then where's the vote?
So far your two votes have been on me and Drew.
In post 109, Knightmare491 wrote:VOTE: Drew
I mean it would have probably been better if had let him interact with more people and claim later in the day so that we can catch the other scums as well. But oh wellBoth on wagons gaining traction. It feels like you only want a safe place to park your vote. And both are very safe wagons.
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Because when an actual PR claims, it puts scum in un-needed situation.In post 507, Riabi wrote:What I don't understand though is why that claim confirms Persivul? If he is a scum role-cop, mavs seems like a pretty easy/convenient target to gain town cred.
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I'm hesitant on Luca/Panda and I don't think she was killed for her scum reads. She seemed like a really obvTown player that would have easily been taken to LyLo. I think Scum thought she was an easy target to take out. But NKA is tricky because you have to know the mind behind the kills too. Some people take out Strong Townies they don't want to compete with late game, some take out people shit tunneling them.In post 549, Tanner wrote:...Why do you people insist on making this game more complicated than it really is?
farside was shot. She suspected Panda/Luca/Persi. Both Panda's and Luca's slots are horrible (I'd argue Panda's more so than Luca, but ya know). We swing there. Persi and mavs are of the same alignment, they're de facto cleared Town, and if (and that's a really really big if) they're scum,it will be obvious later once actual Town PRs start coming to light.
Yeah, but that's something to explore much later down the line. Like, we should be sorting sus people right now. So far I don't think Persivul has acted very scummy. Also, when more PRs are outed, then it'll be abundantly clear if there's too many. (i'm guessing the PR ratio is mostly the same in normals?)In post 568, UnaBombaH wrote:Persivul could be a scum going for the towncred when mavs flips.
Them "clearing" mavs isn't as heavy a commitment for scum as some might imply.
Honestly, I think Salad and Luca were just low-activity posting. Salad was just responding to me cause I was the one of the main focus at the time, and Luca looked like he was struggling to stay in the game. I don't think either of these slots are readable, and I think their replacements should be given new slates.In post 572, Tanner wrote:The way Salad has singled out Una/George, Panda keeps pushing Una, and the way Luca's been acting around those two slots too. Make me think s/s is unlikely there.
It does feel really off, ngl. I'd say it feels more LAMIST than opportunistic though. Everyone knew double miller would be questioned, it was the focal point of D1. It seems like there was no intent to start a wagon, but rather to show off.In post 580, mavsfan41 wrote:I think you’ve got the right idea about Knightmare voting opportunistically, but how do you feel about Panda? The textbook opportunistic vote would be me day 2 after Drew-Sta flipped miller.
The UnaBombaH vote does seem like a weird one though, but Una hasn't been especially pushed this game. So I don't really see it as scum trying to grab LHF. I think I see this more as a vanity wagon?In post 580, mavsfan41 wrote:Methinks their “gut” feeling was that UnaBombaH attracted attention with no real reason.
Because the limelight was on me at the time, and you provided minimal comments on my slot, while voting me. It honestly seems like i'm your vanity wagon right now.In post 590, Knightmare491 wrote:Thank you for scum claiming with this OMGUS vote. I'm the only vote on you, how does that count as a "wagon gaining traction?"
Honestly, we shouldn't be basing our reads off gut feelings right now lmao. That feels like D1 trying-to-get-out-of-rvs talk.In post 603, UnaBombaH wrote:All the mechanical clears aside, and only considering reads or the lack of them....Luca Blight/Tanner/Panda/George?
Tanner is a gutread I cannot shake.
There's something off with the slot, despite all their valiant, good efforts.
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Currently, yeah. The point is that I think your push is safe and insincere.In post 619, Knightmare491 wrote:BS, I'm the only one talking about you.- GeorgeBailey
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I've played mostly micro and newbie game. And 90% were open, I can't setup spec for shit.In post 620, Knightmare491 wrote:I still struggle to see how this is town reaction to two millers. Someone who's been on the site since September last year and has played many games.- GeorgeBailey
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??? He pushed me right after, asking:In post 648, PranaDevil wrote:Tanner - Buddying George, only talks about scum Drew, never considered Town Drew while discussing why he was ignoring George buying the two miller thing.
then in 181 kinda towncased me saying it's TSTBSIn post 152, Tanner wrote:George, is your first reaction to a double Miller claim "oh that's not scum indicative" as opposed to "one of them is fucking lying"?- GeorgeBailey
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Well, he did ask the possible vig not to shoot in 241In post 663, UnaBombaH wrote:It just hit me btw.
Assume Persivul really checked mavs.
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What makes you vote Panda right now Eve?
When you made the vote, you said you were at post 50?- GeorgeBailey
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You pushed Tanner for pushing you on your RVS vote. It was pretty much OMGUS. How is it fair to scumread her for not following that?In post 708, UnaBombaH wrote:Really?
From calling me scum, to voting the slot I have pretty much exclusively called out from the start?
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VOTE: popo
The fact that Farside was NK'd n1 over an IC has to be a tell.
The only alive players from her scumreads are Persi and Luca/popo.
I think trying to read Drew's wagon is pretty messy. That wagon was pretty widely regarded as that day's lynch, going with it or going against it isn't really alignment telling.
I think Panda's wagon is more telling, and pop's vote there felt odd.
1-shot would make sense with double miller since it's expected they both claim d1. It sounds like it compliments the setup.In post 783, popopopopopopo wrote:Just imagine for one second that persivul IS scum, of course he would claim 1 shot today because he cant confirm his role any longer because no1 else has outed there role in thread.- GeorgeBailey
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That's interesting too. Since the NK was the IC over the PR, would that mean the IC was killed for her reads?In post 865, Ruby Red wrote:from how fast i blazed through reading eve's iso though (given my mach-12 rate of reading given my astronomical IQ) it seemed like she had reads, though?
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Would scum try and go for a PR though? If Prana and popo are scum together, trying to vote out Persi seems like a gambit move. Even if still a 1-shot, doesn't seem like the safe scum move.In post 854, popopopopopopo wrote:i agree with prana that persi is extremely sus. my scumread on prana from yesterday i think was more of a playstlye thing, as the setup spec has continued.
im still down to get on knightmare but i really dont see why we dont lynch persi today. he lied about his claim, and checking the miller with a 1 shot just seems dumb to me. (and not true)- GeorgeBailey
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Because i'm trying to imagine a scenario where Persivul is town and he visits Eve.
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I mean, hes voting Prana. So best case scenario he's a voyeur who saw Prana attack Eve.- GeorgeBailey
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Uh. Well ignore that. I was looking at the wrong VC....
Voyeur is the only claim I see though.- GeorgeBailey
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The only way I can see if popo is scum is if they somehow jailed/tracked/rolecopped me. I don't see scum randomly saying someone didn't go anywhere n1 without mechanical evidence.- GeorgeBailey
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UNVOTE: Persivul
I dont really know. Persivul's point makes sense. Why wouldn't there be some way to counter the double miller? No one else claimed any result on either of them.
Also, farside NK fits both slots. So that's no help.
Luca was also scumreading yesterday so to be his target makes sense.- GeorgeBailey
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But Knightmare quickly unvoted when it got to L-1. If it was a bus he'd probably just silently stay on the wagon.- GeorgeBailey
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You could pretty much say the same in reverse. You dont think this confirms Persivul if Popo is scum?In post 1042, Tanner wrote:even if Persivul is scum and we lynched him today, popo is gonna get shot tonight. There's most likely no protectives since our IC died.
Also, why do you trust a 1-shot claim over a PR claim?- GeorgeBailey
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I think that's a really valid point. The fact that it's ungated is pretty weird. But my point is that both probably have the highest chance of getting shot in either scenario.
VOTE: popo- GeorgeBailey
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Why are we mass claiming? If today's lynch isn't scum, then can't we agree to lynch the other?
How will mass claiming help?- GeorgeBailey
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This doesn't really seem like a bus, so popo flipping scum would pretty much confirm you town, and Mavs too.In post 1067, Persivul wrote:Why would I be the likely target if I'm telling the truth?- GeorgeBailey
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What would make it better rather than a rolecop? I feel like Rolecop is the only thing that can balance this.In post 1081, PranaDevil wrote:A 1x rolecop also doesn't fix the balance... actually worse if anything.- GeorgeBailey
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I dont want a no lynch, I'm just lost.
I'm trying to find a setup that ran double miller, and maybe see how the mod balanced it in the past. But it seems to be pretty damn rare.- GeorgeBailey
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There's one problem with this:In post 1006, Tanner wrote:Ok, I just did. Here's a list of all Mini Normals played in the last year and a half or so without a single Town investigative.
None of those setups had a miller.
Going through, the only double miller setup I could find was this:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=71689
And it most definitely had a cop.
Other setups with miller were:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=74651
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=72515
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=65794
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=71618
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=62688
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=64039
One-shot Cop is looking a lot likelier than Town follower but I still don't really know.
But on the flip, it seems like double miller is incredibly rare. So much so that i'm starting to doubt Mavs again.
But it's shitty, cause like, there HAS to be a rolecop, right? I can't imagine there even being 1 miller without a role cop or any way with dealing with it.
I think if there's another cop, they should out right now. Because looking at the other setups there are usually only 1 cop roles.- GeorgeBailey
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