Mini Normal 2153: Post-game

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I have arrived as a Replacement for Sujimichi.

If anyone else requires replacing, please let me know, and I will be happy to replace additional players.

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It alarms me that the mod has made 21 votecounts. Could this be indicating there are some special mechanics in play relevant to voting mechancis? Maybe a double or triple voter, or someone needing twice as many votes to be lynched.

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Perhaps our mod has decided to spice things up and throw in some abnormal elements. Open your mind, notscience.

I've replaced Sujimichi at a late hour, so I will try and catch up tomorrow.

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don't worry i'm probably going to townread your avatar however you play this game notscience

This is relatable

This has caught my attention. I would disagree with the assessment that Peko was anything close to a "best" character in that game. Surely there are at least 8 or 9 characters ahead of her.

I have my eye on both Isis and Klick.

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I enjoyed Hoopla's early take on Dunnstral's vote opportunism, and enjoyed Klick's early take on Bella's disconnect between her thoughts and what she's pushing with her vote. Popo's case in 84 feels a little forced. Alright then, I am up to page 5 in record time and am making fantastic progress. I will pick this up again later.

I scrolled up to the top of this page and was shocked to see that I couldn't find a single votecount in sight. Pick up the pace, Fredrick; what are we even paying you for?

VOTE: popo

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You’re entitled to your wrong opinion you hiyoko apologist

You spelled Nagito and Ibuki wrong.

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Thank you, Fredrick. My faith has been restored and the daily instalments will resume.

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My grand catchup continues. I may not ever live up to Sujimichi's name, but I hope I can one day fill their boots as a suitable replacement.

I don't think I'm going to be able to accurately read Hoopla until like Day 3 at best. Until then, Hoopla is a consistently good influence on the gamestate and probably won't be getting executed today.

The current events are interesting given Klick's opinion here.

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I assume I'll get more context as I catch up, but feel free to provide your take on why you think your ability to read her has changed, Klick.

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But then again, if you were to roll scum twice in a row, I guess you'd try and mix it up as well.

This is a good point. If Klick rolled scum in his last game, it is statistically less likely he rolled scum in this game.

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Una is gamblers fallacy right on you this time

Was it you who called that last game too?
What did you even mean by that given the context?
I know what it means, but if we are talking about the last game and that one post that stuck out to me, it felt out of place then and there.

Your last 7 games had been town. And now 8.

Wow. This means Una is very likely scum in this game. Good use of meta from Bob.

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I have reached the pinnacle of page 9.
Una's use of emojis alarms me, but I like his openness with reads and discussing his thoughts at this early stage.
Good use of a GIF from Dunnstral in 171. Top marks.

is there someone in this game called Sujimichi????

As I am standing in for Sujimichi, I can answer this for you. Sujimichi has other matters to attend to and I will be standing in as their replacement.

@mod

prod this sujimichi character

There is no need for this, mod. I have replaced Sujimichi and do not require prodding.

184: I disagree with this and enjoyed Isis' take, but I don't think your opposition is indicative of your alignment.
The power this Hoopla character demands scares me.
I am not enthused by Galron so far. His only take has been liking Hoopla's content and the rest has been fluff.

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I think I've only seen Hoopla's scumgame once, and it was years ago and I replaced in as her buddy. Last game (*takes shot*) Hoopla said she follows a similar formula every time D1, and based on that and the legends I've heard of scum!Hoopla, I assumed I wouldn't be able to read her today. But based on the reasons I've already given I think I could actually be onto something here.

Well, I look forward to reading about these reasons. The fall of Hoopla from god emperor to wagonee should be entertaining.

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I have returned. Please flashlynch me without mercy if I haven't finished catching up tonight.

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Bob leaving 2 lines between sentences is an interesting stylistic choice. Perhaps an attempt to make his posts look bigger and more intimidating? Bob criticising Gera for playing off his town-meta when that's just what Gera accused Bob off feels reactionary in a way which scum might react. It's hard to articulate but I think scum are more likely to respond in an equal accusatory manner, as if he's trying to 'win' and find similar logic to hit back at on Gera. Unless this is a high calibre joke that's gone over my Kabuto. Is it,

@Bob

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Galron's improved his rate of solving and I feel better about him.
287: The emojis don't stop coming. Is there ever a good situation to use the giggling emoji? Someone explain why we shouldn't policy lynch users of it please.
geraintm feels narcissistic.



Liking notscience. Agree that gera engaging is town-indicative, and Bob spinning it as scum-indicative off meta seems manipulative. However, I don't like the confidence with which he calls gera town but that may be a playstyle choice.
At page 15. I hope the THREE lines of space between paragraphs makes me seem imposing and commanding.

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What in the world. How do you even manage to use so many emojis in one post, and in that symmetrical structure no less. If a single laughing emoji is 1 second of laughter, Una was laughing for

14 seconds

straight there. I'm very doubtful.
Hoopla calling the Gera wagon all town when it has popo and Bob on it is a bloopla.
377: Good post from Klick.

Sujimichi has been prodded. It will count as an official prod in (expired on 2020-07-08 00:15:00). I will start looking for a replacement if he doesn't post in (expired on 2020-07-09 00:15:00)

Mod

are you looking for replacement?

Yes, but as of the time of writing this post, I am still typing the post.

There is no need. I have come in as Sujimichi's replacement.

I don't like these posts from Isis:

Isis your scumread on me feels incredibly easy.

I know, I don't trust it either

well geez, I get falsley listed as being on the wagon, popopo gets a flipping medal

Okay, then what do you think about it Hoopla?
Because I think it's rly weird

I think it might mean you're town and so were the people pushing you
That's what I'd say if I was a big picture person
I'm a very tiny details type of player, though, usually

If you haven't already, could you elaborate on the last one, Isis? I would think your given logic would make Klick more likely scum than town.

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Bob is my top scumread at the time of writing. I see I will be joining great company such as the likes of emperors on this wagon.

VOTE: Bob

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That's why I scumread you, Bob. Because you say Gera is playing differently to his last (assumedly town) game, and conclude he's scum for it rather than examining his content for this game, which has been good. The timing of it right after he accuses you of being off-meta I also dislike.




I notice you left several 3 line gaps in that post. Impressive.





Two can play at this game.

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It's clear what I meant by examining there. You not reading Gera for this game but off a meta read is what I think is faked. It also comes right after Gera suspects you - and for meta reasons no less.




And again, I am not scumreading you because I think you are wrong on a read. I am scumreading you because I think your read is fabricated. I'm unsure if you're intentionally misconstruing my arguments or not.






I like Una for town based on content. The emoji references are mostly in jest. I say mostly because they do actually ping me as "fake" sometimes, but I know it's probably NAI. Perhaps it warrants some meta checking later.

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If you haven't already, could you elaborate on the last one, Isis? I would think your given logic would make Klick more likely scum than town.

The wagon on Klick wasn't heavily supported by cases and reasoning. I think scum would be less likely to get involved with a wagon that didn't look good.
The trend that Klick is pointing at similarly indicates that he's getting voted by townies on their B-game rather than townies on their A-Game which makes it less likely to be a winwagon than one full of townies on their A-game. Admittedly that's still going to be a better wagon than one full of scum, but it's hard to explain the frame of reference you're using as you go I guess - all wagons are more likely to be on town than scum and my "big picture take" is a bunch of townies that don't feel confident do a weak job rebutting that presumption.

Interesting, your logic is a lot more complicated than what I had in mind. I thought Klick being called scummy but not wagoned increased his chances of being scum, since scum aren't going to start a wagon on each other (most of the time).

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It also comes right after Gera suspects you - and for meta reasons no less.

bob is infamous for an omgus bias, unfortunately

What reasons does he use normally when he OMGUSes? Is it simply a "I scumread you because you scumread me and you're wrong", or does he find other reasons to support that? The OMGUS itself is NAI if you're telling me he does it as either alignment, but the reasons he uses to support it may still be scum-indicative.

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I think a claim from hoopla would be good given all the people that scumread her.






I will hammer if you claim VT, hoopla.

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Bob, what have my responses to your queries told you about my alignment?



Hoopla's seems friendly and I could envisage her as my neighbour, so I can buy her claim. Let's hope she doesn't move out before night 2.




Popo wagon is good. He also smelled funny when I was catching up. Bob should be competing though.

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Hi loves, content coming soon







...Unless the game has been boring

I see you have employed the line-break intimidation strategy. Very impressive.

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Yo ho ho. I notice you've cut down on the emojis, Una. Might that be a subconscious aversion because of what I was saying? €;

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That's why I scumread you, Bob. Because you say Gera is playing differently to his last (assumedly town) game, and conclude he's scum for it rather than examining his content for this game, which has been good. The timing of it right after he accuses you of being off-meta I also dislike.

Read this, my Bob. How is this "having the same read on gerain two days into the game."?





You're ignoring my actual reasons and trying to spin your own ones that you can throw doubt on. I don't like it.

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Yo ho ho. I notice you've cut down on the emojis, Una. Might that be a subconscious aversion because of what I was saying? €;

Literally just missed this.

You win this time but next time I won't be so lenient. At least 2 emojis per post please.

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VOTE: Popo





L-1

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The "not" clearly isn't the important part there, Bob. My reasons for scumreading you have nothing to do with what you're portraying them as - with or without the not. And yes, I left it out by accident, it's funny how you try to spin that as a dastardly attempt to make you look bad, when it's very easy to disprove that.





I was joking when I said I would hammer hoopla if she claimed VT. I also wanted her to overthink her claim if she's scum.

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Pretty smart amirite

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We should never ballista Isis before Day 3, based on her being town if hoopla is scum.
geraintm messed up the bbcode in his last post. His clumsiness and disregard for law and order is indicative of someone with a green role.
VOTE: Bob
Still think this Bob is scum.

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I arrive only for the pagetop, and occasionally the pagesecondtop.

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Is that really scummy? It suggests he isn't afraid of making enemies or being OMGUSed either.



Fun fact: As a jester, I once made it my mission to scumread as many people as possible and was scumreading 80% of the players on day 1. It ended up making me universally townread for that day phase..

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Now that's an unquotable readlist one can't find with ctrl+f when looking for a specific players name..

This annoyance seems a little fake. I think you'll find your emojis aren't CTR+F-able either.




notscience, why don't you join me on Bob if you share my love for him?

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I am not Sujimichi. I am a Replacement for Sujimichi. Please look at my name for proof.

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Very well, I will try. It is probably for the best if I try and learn from Sujimichi as I am filling in her rather large waraji.




Who is your 1st or 0th favorite player? I could attempt to mimic some of their behaviors too.

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I want to be suicidal lover goons with Sujimichi

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Thank you.

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I played a chess game earlier today. I slowly accumulated an edge over my opponent and then threw it all away in one decisive blunder.

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Not Mafia's entrance exudes town. Mafia usually don't have the bravado to use so many colors.




I don't like Una shipping Hoopla/Isis, could you summarise your case for me?

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I do not understand your "never losing at chess" rationale for Replacement for Sujimichi not being an Isis alt as opposed to throwing a game to make her opponent feel better. Their predecessor was fairly absent, so I do not have a strong read there one way or the other.

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I find it very difficult to understand bob3141 which is why I have been largely been skimming his posts. It is not outside the realm of possibility that he is town, but he has seemed to be evaluating between several different players, including notscience and geraintm, for his team solution despite his tunnel on me.

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I have decided to take a page out of Una's book and will be adopting the way of the emoji.



Hoopla agreeing with my Not Mafia read was funny and I will therefore be dropping a few laughing emojis to express my laughter at this.

they were agains the hoopla lynch, so they get points for that.

Do you mean for or against?



@Isis: If Klick was compromised by knowing Bella's alignment , why does she have to be scum in this situation

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What does coasting mean, Galron?
I try to check in once or twice a day, but if you meant to just compliment my ability to move easily without power, then I appreciate it.




I agree that Isis has some shady posts but Hoopla!scum means she's town so I'm not thinking about that too much until the Hoopla debacle is sorted out.



I still scumread Bob. If you look at his interactions with me or notscience, his main focus in those are to strike back at his attackers and paint our points as something they aren't. I explained my stance multiple times to him and he continued to present it as something it wasn't, to the point where I eventually gave up debating with him. I considered whether he was unintentionally misinterpreting my points but to see the pattern repeat against notscience is a

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VOTE: Replacement for Sujimichi

Will be catching up today but for now i will go with what i thought day one.

notscience is an unviable wagon so you go for me instead?

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Because of the smilies?

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I was imitating Una's usage to make him not feel left out, but I will lessen my usage if it if giving a worse impression of my otherwise pristine posts.




Or maybe I could use alternative options :?

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Apologies.

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

So you decide to enter the game with a self-vote, eh? We just had to roll one of these jokers in our game, didn't we? You're either brain dead or you're scum. I sincerely hope for your own sake that you're the latter.

Let me tell you something, clown: Mafia doesn't work if people want to banter or joke around like it's a barbeque. Excessive joking around makes it really difficult to differentiate jokey behaviour from scummy behaviour, and allows people with memey backgrounds to build smoke screens for themselves for when they do roll scum. Your self-vote falls perfectly into that category, and I would be VERY surprised if I didn't see similar disgusting behaviour if I went looking through your past games.

Thing about this one self-vote of yours in particular though, is that it is INEHERENTLY scum-indicative. Town has no time to fuck around, every town member comes in with a subconscious mentality - whether they like it or not - of wanting to lynch scum and therefore win the game as town. Town NEVER self-vote, it doesn't make any sense to progress their win condition, does it? Scum come in with the mentality of wanting to MANIPULATE the town and lynch anyone, as long as it's not them or their scummy buddies. In this case, a self-vote causes confusion and can be perceived to lesser town players as a funny vote by a simple townie who's just joking around, or fishing for reads. WRONG, fortunately for us, I'm not an idiot. Show me a game, just ONE game where you've come into a game and self-voted as town. Oh wait, I don't need to wait, because I know there's no fucking chance you have.

In fact, you should know something about me; I take mafia VERY fucking seriously. And if I see some chickeneater like you go around self-voting like you're doing us all some favour, and helping progress the game, you are so so wrong.

Ironically though, you are doing us a favour; you're claiming scum. And you've just made this game 100 times easier for us. But I'm not going to thank you for that. In fact, I want you to feel REAL bad about it. Think about your idiotic actions and really drown yourself in misery for a few days. Ask yourself "why oh why would I ever commit to such an idiotic strat as scum, did I really think all the others players would be imbeciles?" Really contemplate your actions, especially that previous point, and you may just realise the error of your ways, and maybe, just maybe, you can return to this site a better man, and a better player.

Let's get this over with:

VOTE: Not_Mafia

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

So you decide to enter the game with a self-vote, eh? We just had to roll one of these jokers in our game, didn't we? You're either brain dead or you're scum. I sincerely hope for your own sake that you're the latter.

Let me tell you something, clown: Mafia doesn't work if people want to banter or joke around like it's a barbeque. Excessive joking around makes it really difficult to differentiate jokey behaviour from scummy behaviour, and allows people with memey backgrounds to build smoke screens for themselves for when they do roll scum. Your self-vote falls perfectly into that category, and I would be VERY surprised if I didn't see similar disgusting behaviour if I went looking through your past games.

Thing about this one self-vote of yours in particular though, is that it is INEHERENTLY scum-indicative. Town has no time to fuck around, every town member comes in with a subconscious mentality - whether they like it or not - of wanting to lynch scum and therefore win the game as town. Town NEVER self-vote, it doesn't make any sense to progress their win condition, does it? Scum come in with the mentality of wanting to MANIPULATE the town and lynch anyone, as long as it's not them or their scummy buddies. In this case, a self-vote causes confusion and can be perceived to lesser town players as a funny vote by a simple townie who's just joking around, or fishing for reads. WRONG, fortunately for us, I'm not an idiot. Show me a game, just ONE game where you've come into a game and self-voted as town. Oh wait, I don't need to wait, because I know there's no fucking chance you have.

In fact, you should know something about me; I take mafia VERY fucking seriously. And if I see some chickeneater like you go around self-voting like you're doing us all some favour, and helping progress the game, you are so so wrong.

Ironically though, you are doing us a favour; you're claiming scum. And you've just made this game 100 times easier for us. But I'm not going to thank you for that. In fact, I want you to feel REAL bad about it. Think about your idiotic actions and really drown yourself in misery for a few days. Ask yourself "why oh why would I ever commit to such an idiotic strat as scum, did I really think all the others players would be imbeciles?" Really contemplate your actions, especially that previous point, and you may just realise the error of your ways, and maybe, just maybe, you can return to this site a better man, and a better player.

Let's get this over with:

VOTE: Not_Mafia

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little self-voter? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Forum Academy, and I’ve been involved in secret raids on Mastina-Radiant Cowbell hydras, and I have over 300 confirmed mislynches. I am trained in WIFOM and I’m the top OMGUSer in the entire mafiascum community. You are nothing to me but just another lolhammer. I will Preview-Edit you out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this website mark my words. You think you can get away with saying shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my network of alt-accounts across my computer and your name is being voted for right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your account. You’re fucking dead, newbie. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can modkill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my Hectic account. Not only am I extensively trained in ISO analysis, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Semi-Experienced playerbase and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your ass off the face of this RVS, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your tongue. You didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn MyLo. I will IIoA all over you and you will drown in EBWOP. You’re fucking dead, Not_Mafia.

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If it wasn't obvious, my last couple of posts were in jest. Isis had set me homework. I actually enjoy Not_Mafia.

Don't like Bob's reaction in looking for a (loose) scum-slip in that post.
VOTE: Bob

Could someone explain to me why Bob is town? Being argumentative, verbose, and asking questions doesn't make you town. When you look at the logic and reasoning he uses, I struggle to see it coming from a town mindset in parts.

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Why am I a policy lynch, Una?

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It's posts like on this page, where Una has said that she wants to execute two people she thinks are prob town (me and nm) because she can't get hoops that are weird to me. Like...she says flipping me will help her sort Isis , who she scum reads but also isn't sure if she does because she 'doesnt know who would follow her'. I'd love to flat out town read her but post like these Are so...it looks really good on the surface but when you think more it's 'una just said she'd rather execute town than pursue a scum read'

Who do you actually scum read , una?

I agree that it's weird, but at the same time, I think town contradict themselves and change reads on the drop of a dime all the time.
So I actually townread him for his lack of concern to use *airtight* logic, since that's what scum at least aim for.

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And that isn't the same thing that Bob's doing. The problem with Bob isn't that he contradicts himself but how he decides to interpret other people's posts to the point where I think his misinterpretation is intentional and not accidental.

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I ask people to go back and look at my interactions with Bob when I was scumreading him for his geraintm read. I scumread him for reason A, and he decided to misconstrue this as reason B or C, no matter how many times I tried to explain it to him. The scum motive is that he can scumread me and defend against reason B or C, but can't against A because it's right and makes sense.

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Mr. Fredrick

: I don't think Bob is self voting.

Could you give me an example or at least a game where he does this as town, Isis?

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I don't think that's the same thing, Isis. That's more him being tinfoily rather than misrepresenting like he's doing here. Might have a look at the later incident you talk about afterwards.

Miltank is a budget Snorlax.

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Oh, is Not_Mafia a Miltank? I thought he was a bulbasaur

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Exactly. I wish I was a bulbasaur.

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Galron, why am I good wagon/why do you scumread me? Are you looking to tarnish Sujimichi's reputation? I won't allow it.

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Galron, why am I good wagon/why do you scumread me? Are you looking to tarnish Sujimichi's reputation? I won't allow it.

Galron? If you're scared to face me, you needn't worry. I'm not actually Sujimichi; I'm just her replacement.

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Big talk from the guy who’s done less than the original Sujimichi

Hey now, Sujimichi may not have posted in this game but her mere presence in was playerlist was enough to impact it. Scum probably posted differently during rvs knowing she was in the game.

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I think he's talking about Bob, and honestly, I agree. The excessive line breaks were funny at first but they've gotten out of hand.

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If memeing is scummy, my name isn't Replacement for Sujimichi. Memeing is for fun; it says nothing about my alignment.

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You guys are boring.

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I think Galron has been towny. He's finally explaining his thought processes, but I think his unvote is the most town-indicative thing. Scrapping his previous reasons for scumreading me means he would have to come up with new ones if he were to revote me, which again be scrutinised by everyone - why put himself in that position if he's scum and I'm his counterwagon?




Join me on Bob, Galron. Bellaphant too, don't abandon the cause.

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Since calling my jokepost a scumslip in 1461, Bob has not tried to push me or anyone else. He seemed pretty certain I was scum in earlier posts, but he's making no attempt to convince others of this or get me jestered. He's asked a few questions and provided some self-meta, and that's all. That's the mindset of someone happy to survive rather than the mindset of someone trying to jester scum.




You know what I mean, notscience?

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RfS and Bella should both relocate to another wagon within Bella/RfS/Galron, and then we can all have a talk. Agreed?

Hmm... I have a sinking feeling.

Sinking in what way - like quicksand or a ship? You think all 3 are town?

Also, why aren't you joining me on Bob?

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Why?

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in the interest of working my way back into the game, i am going to do something shocking.

my intuition tells me i may have been wrong on klick - especially upon seeing porken's entry into the game. given i was reading bella as town in relationship to klick's scumminess, i have come to believe i was actually reading them backwards.

VOTE: bella

one of the lemonade-sipping scumbuckets.

more to come

...

actually, this will do for now;

UNVOTE:
VOTE: unabombah

my bella vote looked very pointless.

hmm, it seems the tides have turned and it looks like a bella vs. sujimichi battle.

bella is back and has found her voice.

sujimichi's hilarity is slowly waning. thanks for the memories.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: sujimichi

UNVOTE:
VOTE: galron

VOTE: sujimichi

Hoopla's also been on everything that moves and all the wagons

except

for Bob. Hoopla + Bob + ???

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True, if she's scum, she's surely gonna be anti-spewing to some extent today. Depends on how she values her chances at survival tomorrow without a FN clear.

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What does miscancel mean?

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Replacement can you explain your town read on garlon. All i can see is that you think he is explaining his thought process

Did you miss the second half of the post? 1803

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This gamestate is pretty bad. Bob should not be this hard to push and I have no idea where the townreads are coming from. The best I got from notscience was gut/tone. Does anyone have substantial reasons? Una?

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VOTE: Hoopla

Your time has come. You killed notscience because he was the superior dessert, didn't you?

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I don't think the FN target of Bob says anything, since Hoopla knew she would be exelimated today. That said, I still Bob is probably scum.

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UNVOTE: Hoopla

Don't want to end the day too early.

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That's true, probably better to discuss on the next day with confirmation of a flip and wagons available.

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How do you think Neapolitan works, Gera?

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It's usually done at eLo (educate or lose). How do you mean it's off I haven't recieved more pressure? I've been wagoned a fair bit.

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gerain you know that his role didn't literally distribute ice cream right
neapolitan is the name of a role that investigates if someone is a vanilla townie

Why did you answer for him? I thought there was potential townspew there.

Bob, my intention was always to vote for Hoopla yesterday, so why are you discounting me because of my vote itself not being on her?

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A fruit vendor variant that clears the sender and receiver? So, a Loyal one? I think scum are slightly more likely to search up what it does after seeing notscience's flip than town.

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Explain why?

I'm still thinking Bob but his turn on me is so out of left field for scum that I want to think things through first.

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I don't like how Not_Mafia's being ignored here. His predecessor posted some memes, promised to catch up a few times, and then replaced out. Trying to read Not_Mafia is obviously fruitless, but I don't want to bet the game on that slot being town. I want to flip it at some point, given I only have a strong feeling of scuminess in one place elsewhere (Bob).

I'm thinking Bob or Not_Mafia today.

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VOTE: Replacement for Sujimichi

VOTE: Replacement for Sujimichi

Ok I'm properly pocketed let's just take the safest shot

VOTE: Replacement for Sujimichi

You've never given reasoning for these votes.
I skimmed through your iso surrounding these and I couldn't find any reasons for voting me or thinking I'm scum there either. It's a bit late to be keeping reasons close to the chest.

Outside of nka, why?

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I'm not trying to make you convince me. I want to see if your reasoning is in good faith.

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What do you mean by parallels with Hoopla's slot? Hoopla never really pushed Bob and avoided his wagon completely yesterday.

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And bob seems like town both for gamestate reasons and on his play.

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I don't get it...

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I will deadsheep this assessment if you somehow flip town

Your given reasons don't fit with the confidence portrayed here in you thinking I'm scum.

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parallel like you were moving to different corners of the game

Do you mean we're intentionally going to opposite corners to distance?

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Hectic also posts X to doubt memes have you been studying? ^_^

Votes must be in the format of

VOTE: PlayerName

or VOTE: PlayerName, or they shall not be counted. Abbreviating someone's name is acceptable, so long as I can discern who you were voting for without trouble. If I think it should count as a vote, it will.

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Isis, why are you willing to bet the game on Not Mafia being town? What do you TR his predecessor for?

Same question goes to everyone else.

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UnaBombaH
geraintm
Bellaphant
Isis
Not_Mafia
bob3141

Isis is confusing me, and I don't like her push on me at all, but she did hardpush Hoopla this game.

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VOTE: Not Mafia

The dream would be Bob + NM. I don't see myself getting Bob today but NM isn't someone people should want to leave around. I asked, and no one could give me an explanation for why Flippy was towny. Promising to catch up a few times, getting demotivated and then repping out is slightly scum-indicative. That's if Flippy prefers town>scum obviously, but I'm just gonna assume he does because 95% of people on this site do.

Ah, but then I think back to the way Isis has been townreading Bob and admitting to not even fully reading his posts but only townreading him off of "tone", and I start to think of Bob+Isis again. Idk, I just don't want to bet the game on NM arbitrarily not being scum. Isis and Bob will (hopefully) become more readable if we hit lylo. NM won't.

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I'm honored my opinion means so much to you.

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But again; your words and confidence don't fit your reasons for thinking I'm scum.

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Id rather rfs here.

Why would you rather lunch me over NM?

I've noticed you've been slowly building up to voting me today. If you see flashes of town from me, why would you not vote the slot which we have nothing on and will not get anything on instead?

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I'm warming up to Bob as well... but I can't tell if it's bias for him suddenly not suspecting me anymore. There's no guarantee that I don't continue pushing him today if he pivots on me, so I think it's pretty towny.

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Why is NM on the towny side of your reads?+¥€×8$

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Bella, why are you framing it as one of me or Bob have to be scum? What exactly in our interactions makes you think that? As I see it, in that 1v1, Bob was either scum intentionally misconstruing and representing points to give himself a better look in the argument, OR he's town who genuinely couldn't see what I was saying. Given Isis's meta on him, I certainly haven't ruled out the latter.

It kinda looks like you're lining up a Replacement for Sujimichi into Bob lunch if I do go today - but I don't see the SvT reasoning.

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I'll vote for Bella if NM doesn't happen, but I really do think that's where we should be going today.

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What if I promised everyone origami samurai swords by post?

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What do you mean "so apparently RfS then", who do you actually want to flip, Una? Earlier you were saying you wanted to wreck me into someone else tomorrow, but now you're acting like "oh, I guess we're going for this, whatever" as if you didn't want it in the first place.

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Bella hasn't talked about Not_Mafia at all recently actually, and has never responded to or addressed my questions as to why people don't want to wreckage him.

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Gera is now my only townread.

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He plays like this as either alignment. Maybe I just feel uneasy at the thought of wrecking elsewhere when NM could be scum and there's very little we could do to ascertain and get him for it. I suppose it basically is a policy wreckage I'm pushing for.

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At those who voted nm. (gerain, rfs and una)

How do you read nm unvote of bella after porkens push bella to l-1?

Now you might town or scum read bella but based on your read on bella. Why do you think a scum nm would unvote in such a way

Not_Mafia unvoted someone? I don't think I've ever seen him do that before. It's hard to say what it means for NM/Bella associatives without being able to ask NM why he did it.

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He reminds me a lot of George

Curious George? Or are you talking about the legendary GeorgeBailey?

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UNVOTE: Bella

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And just to be frank - I am not going to get any friendly visits from anyone this game.
Even trying would be a waste.
I keep my door closed tight.

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Interesting.

Can we lynch this? I'll say pretty please to anyone.

That's a good point. What was the point of this post, Una?

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And since there's suddenly no one on RfS (funny isn't it)

This doesn't fit what you were saying earlier. You went from "Replacement to Sujimichi is my preferred destruction" to acting reluctant and saying "I guess we're doing Replacement for Sujimichi today" to "Funny how no one's voting Replacement for Sujimichi anymore". You shade when the route is closed, and act hesitant when the route is nearer. Get off the rocky path and onto the highway.

Gera
Isis/Bob
Una/Bella
Not_Mafia

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At this point RFs and Gera either need to elim me, or Una.
Una will lynch basically anyone. He only town reads bob. Like...can we just get this done? I will elim myself tomorrow if I'm wrong.

You'd elim yourself in LyLo?

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I don't know what you're saying, Una. My point was that as soon as it looked like I was actually going to be elommed, you changed your tune as if you were reluctant or unsure about flipping me, like you were prepping for the townflip.

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Una, that's a lovely explanation of how I've mis-reppes your post. It would be better if your soft reflected that in any way.

I honestly think my soft can only be interpreted in two possible ways, and I'll leave it to you to decide which way you want it to swing.
If you are indeed scum, it's better for us that you don't know exactly what I am, or what roles we potentially still have alive.

You claimed VT though. Are you trying to use Confuse Ray on us right now? It won't work; I have Reflect.

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Oh, and because I know these few people will be pushing for me pig-headedly, and possibly trying to pressure others to hurry with a vote/actions while I'm not around -

I do not want us to massclaim today.

And I might as well claim VT the way this game has gone.

And since there's suddenly no one on RfS (funny isn't it) I'll put my vote to where my strongest townread is, and she can now call it OMGUS or any of the other possible things.
VOTE: Bellaphant - you should've honestly waited for me to come back, and we would've gotten a red flip from your buddy RfS. LyLo is gonna be a pain for you.

<--- off to do some more painting.

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And just in case you have no idea what you are dealing with here, I have said something regarding my role way earlier in the game including my hesitance to claim it.
I'm not going to bring any results from earlier nights to the table, and like said "the way this game has gone" suggests that my role was a red herring/"waste of power" after all.
But since I assume you are scum anyway, I don't feel any need to humor you here.
Consider me a VT for all intents and purposes, or consider me scum - doesn't matter much to me.

Ah, I thought you were literally claiming VT.

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Intent to hammer Bella

Let's hear a claim please.

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Alright, well, I don't think anything else is gonna happen so I'm swinging down. I thought about voting Una and making things interesting by having two L-1 wagons and making Gera decide between the two, but decided I want to flip Bella a little more than Una.

Also, this is the first time I've ever seen N_M not hammer a wagon that's on L-1. If Bella flips scum, that's big +N_M scum equity.

VOTE: Bellaphant

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I'm an ungated VT with a vanilla modifier.

Haven't read through anything properly since day start, will do so later tonight.

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What're your track results, Isis?

Think it's Not_Mafia with either Isis or Una. I townread Gera.

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What changed your trajectory from Una to Replacement, N_M?

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Gera, say you execute N_M, he flips scum, the mafia no kill, and you go to the next day phase and Frederick says no No Executing

Who are you voting?

Well....not sure being honest. I want to vote not mafia, suspect it is like 70/30 to be right. Tonorrow is a day away. I hate the push towards replacement. Fear my interagency is going to cost us now, but feel as town has pretty much had no successful hits on any day on any jnfo the roughly 25% chance we have left seems fair

Yeah, I don't really get what the push on me is, even now. I don't know why Bob and I had to be SvS. Isis's push on me feels in bad faith, and Una saying "wow, why didn't we have the fuel to push Replacement through" feels fake, especially since he never voted me towards the end.

I think Una-Isis is an unlikely team though, the way they've interacted this game doesn't seem faked, with the way Isis was pushing him a couple of days ago.

So, basically I just want to clown Not_Mafia.

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Right, so it's Isis and Not_Mafia then. Perfectly calculated by me

I think Isis is trying to go for the win today, as opposed to having her buddy clowned, since both Gera and I were looking to vote him.

VOTE: Isis

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We have a flipped psychologist, follower, and Neapolitan lol. The tracker claim was a scumclaim in the first place actually. Isis has claimed another investigative in a setup with 3 flipped ones already, 1 of them being strong, and the other 2 being moderate.

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That really looked balanced to you, Isis?

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The setup here is more heavily stacked if your role was real.

Those townsided setups are anomalies anyway, if you look through the most recently completed games, there's far fewer investigative power than what you're claiming here.

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Good job, Una. Excellent LyLo performance. I been inspired by the use of your emojis

o7 to Hoopla, great teamwork in the scum PT, which I am fine to release.

That explains why you wanted me dead so much but couldn't quite explain your scumread, Isis. Why did you decide to track me night 2?

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Fantastic modding! Kudos Fredrick A. Campbell!

How many seconds of happiness is that RFS? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A single grin is roughly 1 second of happiness, so you were happy for

6 solid

seconds there. All at some good modding despite the loss? Yeah, I don't buy it, Galron.

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