Mini 2156: Launch Mob [Game Over]
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Great... BM accused you so now i need to deal with OMGUS
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In post 516, Dunnstral wrote:Why isn't Blair scum?In post 592, Dunnstral wrote:That's not very convincingIn post 615, Dunnstral wrote:What is the reasoning for that wagon?Cool we are running near deadline but you took 0 effort to improve this gamestate.
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She has strange posting style.In post 657, CantHateAPuppy wrote:I've played Blair before. Why?giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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I am not confident enough to argue, because i only read second half of this game but i am somewhere aroundIn post 657, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Anyways, right now the r2r wagon is "leading" with two votes (not sure I cont your residual vote from BM), so if you want a different wagon please argue a better one or jump on
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One of common tells that someone is member of mafia is their lack of motivation to scumhunt. People, which are spoiled have to pretend that they are trying to figure out the enemy and genuine engagement is slightly more exhausting for them.In post 674, Nosferatu wrote:so our kill for the day is gonna be bc "well he's not doing much anyway"giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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otherwiseIn post 686, Nosferatu wrote:
this wagon is policy entirely policy don't even try to say otherwiseIn post 681, Kerset wrote:
One of common tells that someone is member of mafia is their lack of motivation to scumhunt. People, which are spoiled have to pretend that they are trying to figure out the enemy and genuine engagement is slightly more exhausting for them.In post 674, Nosferatu wrote:so our kill for the day is gonna be bc "well he's not doing much anyway"giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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Dunnstral (4): Blair, Kerset, midwaybear, ready2rockIn post 690, Nosferatu wrote:lmao hammering at L-2 haven't seen that one
With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to launch.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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If Ydrasse is scum and Dunny is town then she still got no reason to push unlaunchable person. She can just stay there and get townie launched instead of her or push someone, who can be launched to save herself. The only world in which this makes sense is where she wish to gain towncred & save dunn for some reason. To be honest it feels rather like poor play rather then something AI.In post 585, Mafia Goon wrote:If Ydrasse is scum with Dunny, she either stays on him for the bussing towncred, or tries to push something else and save her scum buddy. In what world does she abandon the wagon and push someone who isn't getting launched? None of the worlds is what I'm implying if that wasn't clear.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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(x) DoubtIn post 709, CantHateAPuppy wrote:it's definitely just one scum. setup doesn't make sense otherwise. it's probably gunsmith/1-shot vig vs. two scum, maybe with some other minor twist since this is umlaut
Vig will be tonights target, so i can reveal that i am backup bulletproof. Bulletproof is usually given to traitors to protect them from scum kills, so from design standpoint there is like 90% chance for one scum + traitor remaining.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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I think that one of the mafia members is midway. He lacks of commitment to his own leads. Technically he picked Ydrasse to be his target but his whole agenda was only about pursuing dunn at the time and lynching him. Ydr is only mentioned in terms of receiving credit for his eventual flip.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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midwaybear wrote:if there was a mafia traitor, then why did someone die tonight? Didn't someone say traitors don't have guns?
BM was sorta townie, but this claim is now strange...
Lonely traitor would be endgamed.In post 718, Kerset wrote:
(x) DoubtIn post 709, CantHateAPuppy wrote:it's definitely just one scum. setup doesn't make sense otherwise. it's probably gunsmith/1-shot vig vs. two scum, maybe with some other minor twist since this is umlaut
Vig will be tonights target, so i can reveal that i am backup bulletproof. Bulletproof is usually given to traitors to protect them from scum kills, so from design standpoint there is like 90% chance forone scum + traitor remaining.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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In post 719, Kerset wrote:He lacks of commitment to his own leads. Technically he picked Ydrasse to be his target but his whole agenda was only about pursuing dunn at the time and lynching him. Ydr is only mentioned in terms of receiving credit for his eventual flip.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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because solo traitor would be endgamedIn post 745, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Why do you think we're in lylo? Couldn't it just be one scum left?
or he is scum, who knows my alignment and act carelessly, because he is not in the threat of instantdefeat like towny. The point of question is to determine this, not the literal point.CantLynchAPuppy wrote:Ftr, it's because midway votes "with you", he seems to believe you, then you question his vote and say it was because you weren't sure how much he trusts you. I think it looks weak to call out his vote and then back down to a reason that doesn't really explain the callout
Why is no one beside me questioning people? You all act like you don't want to play this game.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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It is quite uncommon for goon to have vest. If mod wants to give goon protection form vig then they are more likely to add hider or commute ability. I am pretty sure that reviewer like northsidegal would encourage skill-based solution there.
Vest is mostly associated with traitors, because possibility of mafia nightkilling their own member creates huge swing and something bold simply has to be added to prevent that.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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One reason could be the fact that vig shot turns it back to odd. The other is potential traitor existence.In post 766, Fidget wrote:I notice there's an even amount of players in the game.. why 10 rather than 9? Has that been figured out?giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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Okay lets look at their entire exchange
Spoiler: MidwayxYdrasse
65, 124 and 144 are not serious at all. 197 and 289 are NAI conversations and in 216 mid decided to cast empty vote. 238 is shading, which could count at pushing his target. 454, 493, 504 and 508 he decided to ask for towncred...
Did i miss any posts or maybe we are talking about different game? First he pushed BM and at later phase, he spend slightly more time on pushing dunn and off tracking over ydra. He was more interested in bragging about ydra to make people memorize his vote placement rather then ensuring his elimination.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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His argument is about me and puppy being scummy are our opinions. The fact that we townread his slot, while he expect us to scumread it? Also he dislikes the fact that i scumread you, while he finds you towny. Different read is supposed to be scum indicative.In post 775, midwaybear wrote:
What does this even mean?In post 774, Kerset wrote:You sound like you would suspect people for having different opinion then you.
I want to town read Fidget now...giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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We finally got a player, who actually makes a reads on players based on backed up data. Does nightkill analysis, which for some reason everyone overlooked. Meantime you for entire week all you are interested in is roleclaim roleclaim roleclaim roleclaim lets talk about roleclaim and how about we doubt roleclaim and lets ask about roleclaimgiv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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The answer is pretty simple,In post 787, Fidget wrote:
Ehhhhhh if midway were trying to claim his credit here, why the hell would he shade IV and still vote Ydrasse? Surely he'd pick one or the other?In post 431, midwaybear wrote:This is low key scummy because you aren’t specifying what role. I still will vote ydrasse though
VOTE: Ydrasse
BM chose to wait until IV gave more info. Midway was like "Okay Imma vote Ydrasse but you're kinda scummy too", which is just such an odd thing to say honestly even as either alignment but also as scum trying to get credit.
Mid voted ydra right after he got counterclaimed. With CC, it was quite obvious that ydra will be executed regardless, so mid was securing his place on the wagon and wanted to be convincing.
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likelyIn post 798, Fidget wrote:Kerset, do you think Puppy is on the scumteam in the scenario there's two scum left?giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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I wanted to talk about players but got ignored, i even gave a reminder.In post 801, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Kerset is not town because she spent as much time as anyone doing role spec with me
In a game plagued by inactive lurk prod slots
And then after days where I felt like the only one talking, suddenly the fact that I did setup spec is BAD, or something. But kerset only reveals this opinion after there's a sub-in who might buy that opinion
In post 719, Kerset wrote:I think that one of the mafia members is midway. He lacks of commitment to his own leads. Technically he picked Ydrasse to be his target but his whole agenda was only about pursuing dunn at the time and lynching him. Ydr is only mentioned in terms of receiving credit for his eventual flip.In post 734, Kerset wrote:We should get some discussion with arguments being made. We just kind of stare at each other right now.In post 736, Kerset wrote:In post 719, Kerset wrote:He lacks of commitment to his own leads. Technically he picked Ydrasse to be his target but his whole agenda was only about pursuing dunn at the time and lynching him. Ydr is only mentioned in terms of receiving credit for his eventual flip.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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Actually, why do you post it? I don't see how your pov helps us, it is just lamist thing to do.In post 837, Fidget wrote:I see three ways this could go down (obv assuming midway is town), A.) we eliminate Puppy or Kerset, they're scum, yay
B.) we eliminate Puppy or Kerset, we go to Xylo and I would then know which one of them is scum and somehow I've got to prove it to try and save the game
or C.) We eliminate me first and you can use my input to potentially aide you in Xylo
I am not very excited at the thought of B happeninggiv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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Why? You said that we got one mislynch left and you don't receive major suspicion. As replacement you didn't invest that much in to this game, so you don't have much to lose. The only disaster that could happen for you would be elimination of bulletproof traitor.In post 889, Fidget wrote:this game stresses me outgiv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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In terms of fidget-puppy. Fidget is slightly more manipulative and raised some red flags. Puppy isn't afraid of being lynched. I don't see scum at this point being like 'you want to lynch me, ye whatever just wary about my cuteness', AtE is just not efficient enough when you are on the edge of losing this game.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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In post 916, Fidget wrote:Trusssssst in me midway. Vote with me
It... just sounds like irony. This is influence at emotional level at its basis.In post 917, midwaybear wrote:Then puppy is going to do more ATE and I’ll feel bad...giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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MG suggested vig by himselfIn post 684, Mafia Goon wrote:We shouldn't no launch because there's a chance there's a 1-shot vig or something like that to even (odd) out the numbers.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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I don't understand.In post 934, CantHateAPuppy wrote:I don't actually see the logic for a Mafi kill. At the end he had loose scumread on me and the Blair/Fidget slot.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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When?In post 951, CantHateAPuppy wrote:It would've been much easier for me to push you when that's what everyone else wanted,giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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What is the deal with this phasing? That basically just means puppy and r2r. Its obvious that midway doesn't vote for himself.In post 959, Fidget wrote:everyone decided mid is town yes? (besides Kerset)giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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If you got 8 players and only one of them is scum then the odds of correct TR are high.In post 999, CantHateAPuppy wrote:not sure what to think of the fact that my townreads have been right and getting launched anyways.giv me pagetop :(- Kerset
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I am pretty sure that there is no traitorIn post 1008, CantHateAPuppy wrote:kerset how much is your mind made up
for serious i don't see a lot data that could potentially change anything. Everything posted so far points at mid. Most of the leads are lack of reason why would he be town and minor which suggest that you can be. I am still open but only to new content.giv me pagetop :( - Kerset
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