Mini Normal 2180 | Fake Peoples | Endgame

[Albert B. Rampage]

scum know you're a PR if youre town, full claim now or die

[Albert B. Rampage]

ok hes scum everybody vote cakez out theres no good reason for him to visit midway except to rolefish

[Albert B. Rampage]

1 v 1

[Albert B. Rampage]

I have him dead to rights and it's over.

[Albert B. Rampage]

HAHAHA CAUGHT SCUM DOESNT KNOW WHAT TO CLAIM LOL!!!

[Albert B. Rampage]

im town i promise and im not fakeclaiming this is my role

you are 100% town

[Albert B. Rampage]

HAHAHA CAUGHT SCUM DOESNT KNOW WHAT TO CLAIM LOL!!!

"I am scum and desperate to know town prs!!!!!!!!!!"

this is so stupid. if im scum, id quicklynch IV and then NK you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

guys if im a scum tracker i just keep my mouth shut and kill sircakez tonight. this is incredibly shortsighted allegations from sircakez

[Albert B. Rampage]

sorry I don't believe it, it took you too long to claim.

My real role is this: Lazy Odd-Night Tracker Even-Night Motion Detector

[Albert B. Rampage]

cakez is 100% scum

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's also a possibility there is a scum watcher and saw me visit midway and they fed the result to ABR and that's how IV knew it was safe to claim that he visited midway

WHY THE FUCK WOULD SCUM WATCH MIDWAY

YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT

[Albert B. Rampage]

basically as a motion detector on even nights, i can target a player. if they visited anyone or ifi anyone visited them, i am informed. and on odd nights im a pure tracker.

[Albert B. Rampage]

cakez is going DOWN!!!! HE IS PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Albert B. Rampage]

YOU ARE DONE IN THIS TOWN I CAUGHT YOU ITS GAME OVER NOW LETS AGREE TO STOP SPAMMING THE THREAD SO PEOPLE CAN MAKE THEIR OWN MIND !!!!!

[Albert B. Rampage]

I may not understand normal games very well nowadays but is it even possible for Cakez' and Iv's roles to both exist in a mini normal?

dude im so lost as to what all this shit is

what happened to cop and doctor

my role fits perfectly with IV's. i can detect if theres any movement on even nights so i can kinda tell if his action worked or not. its smart setup design.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR's entire play today has been constructed around protecting IV
This is what he does as scum

yeah ok 2 scum outted themselves just to rolefish you and trade 2 for 1.

none of what cakez is saying is making sense, please kill him with fire

[Albert B. Rampage]

good luck detecting anything useful now that you've fullclaimed

scum probably only have 1 PR so im pretty sure if we lynch cakez they are fucked if we have protective

[Albert B. Rampage]

I know cakez very well and this isn't remotely close to how he reacts as town. He knows he's caught scum he's trolling all of you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

good luck detecting anything useful now that you've fullclaimed

scum probably only have 1 PR so im pretty sure if we lynch cakez they are fucked if we have protective

i doubt we do.

please nobody hammer anything until we at least *hear* from all the players.

I need you to take a firm position and back me up

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
want to talk about why you voted Shoshin

She was either scum or a liability. That’s it.

I tracked cakez to midway, he admitted it and said he was a roaming detective. its 1v1 now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

cakez is 100% scum. hes trying to lynch IV who claimed hider variant im unfamiliar with, and im gonna get him voted out today if its the last thing i do in this game

[Albert B. Rampage]

If me visiting midway was so suspicious why did you not start pushing me immediately? It's totally scum motivated

i crumbed it by saying midway is town so no bullshit would happen to midway today.

[Albert B. Rampage]

specifically,

If I target scum and they die at night, I die regardless of what happens to me
If I target scum and they don’t die at night (even if they are shot but somehow stay alive) and I get shot, I don’t die
If I target town it’s as if I didn’t submit any action at all, I will die if and only if I get shot

[Albert B. Rampage]

it took sircakez way too long to claim as he was thinking of what to say and his role doesnt fit like mine and iv's do. besides that, hes making extremely obvious lies which i can quote back to you and makes it impossible hes not scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lazy Odd-Night Tracker Even-Night Motion Detector so it fits with my motion detector part. I can tell if he moved to a scum or if he visited a townie.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm also confirmed town due to meta because in my 250+ games on mafiascum, I have never fakeclaimed a "bizarre" role like this. I always choose simple things I understand and don't need to wiki. I don't even know what normal roles are, I'd never pull this shit, especially unprompted and without pressure.

[Albert B. Rampage]

my entire play from day 1 to day 2 makes sense when i tell you im a tracker and wanted to get claims on d1 so i could verify them at night, and i want to establish a clear deterrent to fakeclaiming so i can preserve the utility of my role.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm also confirmed town due to meta because in my 250+ games on mafiascum, I have never fakeclaimed a "bizarre" role like this. I always choose simple things I understand and don't need to wiki. I don't even know what normal roles are, I'd never pull this shit, especially unprompted and without pressure.

ur role is definitely not a lie. u could probs still be scum tho.

this is a stupid thing to say

[Albert B. Rampage]

IF I AM SCUM I KILL CAKEZ AT NIGHT KNOWING HE IS PR. WHY THE FUCK WOULD I DO ALL THIS SHIT. CAKEZ IS CONFSCUM.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ITS CAKEZ AND NORAA IM CALLING IT NOW

[Albert B. Rampage]

Spoiler: Dead

Shellyc,

Vanilla Townie

executed day 1
Bunno,

Vanilla Townie

killed night 1
Tayl0r Swift,

Vanilla Townie

executed day 2
Battle Mage

Town Combined Mailman Vanilla Cop

, killed night 2
Professor Mafia

Mafia Odd-Night Complex Traffic Analyst

, executed day 3
Menalque

Role Watcher Neighbor

, killed night 3
iamausername

Vanilla Townie

, executed day 4
Iconeum

Town Ascetic Indecisive Doctor Neighbour

, killed night 4
Alonzo

Town 1-shot Bulletproof Vengeful

, executed day 5
Bob3141

Mafia Informed

, vengekilled day 5
Datisi

Mafia Goon

, killed night 5
Noraa

Town Novice 3-shot Vigilante

, killed night 5

For reference to his last game...

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm a tracker. I tracked sircakez to midway last night and I'm pretty sure he's scum.

And you didn’t immediately attempt to press him about it why?

Looking to see if cakez would crumb something or tip his hand. I saw enough to strike.

[Albert B. Rampage]

it literally doesnt matter, ive got midway and IV in my corner and we're voting as a block, good luck getting consensus without us. tunneling cakez for the rest of the day.

[Albert B. Rampage]

iv said he doesnt know how to play mafia and he owes me his life so his vote is mine

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fuck off sircakez is scum you clowns

[Albert B. Rampage]

Cakez is manipulating you.

You are fucking blind and deaf.

I should have let him fucking lynch you, ingrate. Why I stick my neck out to be thanked for this stupidity?

First you say someone save me and then you spit on me. I should never have helped you had I know the depths of your willful ignorance, your weakness, your absolute trash read of the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

This is the most angry mafia has made me in years.

I WAS HAPPY WITH THIS PLAYER LIST. I FELT WELCOME.

YOU BETRAYED ME. YOU DISLOYAL WRETCH.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I will NOT ACCEPT VOTES FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN IV TODAY

Cakez is fake as fuck.

IV - scumlord
ABR - scumlord
Noraa - scumlord
midwaybear - scummy but not scumlord level

Has no reason to investigate midway above noraa or IV given town consensus day 1.

I'm a tracker. I tracked sircakez to midway last night and I'm pretty sure he's scum.

Wow
This is correct
I will not reveal why

Stalls a claim for no reason after he's been outted for tracking midway.

I'm not full claiming stop fishing

Keeps stalling while he thinks of something to claim.

full claim now

No you're playing terribly this game and your demands for a claim yesterday got town elimmed and claiming will not do ANYTHING for town here

still operating off of his last minute unvote of shoshin which he thinks gives him towncred.

Knowing my role ONLY HELPS SCUM HERE

stupid, because he's already been outted.

Lmao ABR is probably scum tracker

illogical. hes seen me do these plays before as town.

ABR is so scared of his buddies dying today that he had to full claim his scum role

hes still operating off of his fake ass IV tunnel. implies scum want to trade 2 of theirs for 1 of him. this is preposterous.

HAHAHA CAUGHT SCUM DOESNT KNOW WHAT TO CLAIM LOL!!!

"I am scum and desperate to know town prs!!!!!!!!!!"

again. being slow to adapt to the quickly evolving situation.

the bottom line is this:

Sircakez can't think of lies fast enough so he's always a step behind and it fucking shows. He comes in with a game plan for his lies, the plan gets fucked up, and rather than an honest townie who can adapt quickly to whatever happens, he's always trying to remember his previous lies and show a continuation of thought, which is extremely obvious.

[Albert B. Rampage]

im extremely upset so writing this off quickly with a lot of typos. i am furious with you for not being quick-witted.

[Albert B. Rampage]

this is like in Homeland when Brody is found in Afghanistan after being MIA for 10 years, returned to his family in the suburbs, and then at sunrise he pulls out a rug to pray and you guys are like "tHaT dOeSnT mEaN AnYtHiNg", BRO HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM IS THE FORESHADOWING TO HIM ASSASSINATING POTUS, OPEN YOUR EYES AND CATCH UP

[Albert B. Rampage]

. He comes in with a game plan for his lies,

What was Cakez plan in your eyes?

fakes he knows IV is scum and tunnels on him all day, keeps it in his backpocket to fakeclaim something to explain his overconfidence

when you know he went to see midway, his play day 2 makes zero fucking sense so I put a stop to it

[Albert B. Rampage]

Cakez, ABR's case on you isn't terrible. Why did you target midway when he wasn't a "scum Lord"?

i already said this but since my role looks for people who have killed I wanted to go after someone low-profile who scum would assign to a kill
and also due to the Roaming part I wanted to save my top SRs to check later when more time has gone by as I check for killing actions all nights, not just the night of the kill

zero crumbs, accuses midway of being scum with me and IV and Noraa. I caught him dead to rights with his hand in the cookie jar. wake up people

[Albert B. Rampage]

remember your theory about scum wanting to eliminate any new voices. SIRCAKEZ IS THE SCUM WHO DIDNT FEEL THREATENED. HE KILLED A NEW VOICE BECAUSE HE THOUGHT WE WOULD LYNCH IV.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Alisae kill is from a team who did not want new viewpoints on the game

Sircakez told the truth here

[Albert B. Rampage]

lack of presence

lol are you serious? When have I ever had a presence in a game
VOTE: SirCakez

Scum ass response

Scum ass response

Sure dude. Want to talk about why you decided to give "lack of presence" to scumread me?

Because your day 1 was awful and you did nothing to progress the game aside from loling on the Shoshin wagon

This is straight up obvscum

[Albert B. Rampage]

saying midway is scummy for lack of presence is one of the top lies of all time. seriously what the fuck

[Albert B. Rampage]

Midway never has presence day 1. You think you can fool me?

town has an easy recipe to win, lynch the scum PR and then look at all the weird interactions around Shoshin D1 and around Cakez D2 where scum are walking on eggshells.

cakez pulling out of shoshin d1 and saying "too early for a hammer" and then faking outrage that we ML too early is OBVSCUM.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Shoshin (7) :

VP Baltar ; Datisi ; unwnd

; midwaybear ;

Innocentvillager

; Gamma Emerald ;

Albert B. Rampage

If I accept my worldview and ABR's worldview, that's an extremely small amount of unknown on the Shoshin wagon.

I want to say Cakez also shit on me for saying I'd look for people softpeddling off the the wagon if Shoshin flipped green?

I had 9/13 players agree to vote Shoshin. Scum like cakez were HAPPY to jump off at the last second.

Gamma probscum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

9/12 since shoshin wont self vote. 75% of playerlist were down to lynch shoshin so dont expect scum on the final vote count.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ico wasnt even in the game so 9 out of the 11 players were ok w shoshin getting voted.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Cakez
Datsi
Deasvail


All players we should look into heavily. Gamma is the only player on the wagon who might be scum. If scum hedge and leave 1 on the wagon just for fun.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Noraa too

[Albert B. Rampage]

IV should hug the shit out of Noraa if he wants to live to the end.

[Albert B. Rampage]

iv is literally lolcatting and shitting up the thread and it's the only execute we are ever doing today

Because of posts like this, agreeing with cakez, hur dur all 3 are town...

[Albert B. Rampage]

They all dodged the shoshin wagon so feel they can all be on the IV ML.

Im on the case

[Albert B. Rampage]

i was *on* the wagon tho??

Ok fine so Gamma is not probscum then.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Guys lets have a discussion about cakez

[Albert B. Rampage]

also i explicitly said i don't think all 3 have to be town, just that there's mech room for all 3 to be town

pedit: hm? you saying i took that place?

No but its a good things you're both on. Max 1 scum was on Shoshin.

That means 2 were off, and 1 of them was cakez.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Basically in a nutshell, her town play there convinced me that her empty questions weren't town indicative.
But I was also worried she was one of those players that I could never SR.
I ended up flip flopping a shit ton trying to decide what was the best play.
I caved to ABR.
Later regretted a lil.
Stayed firm regardless.
Decided to leave wagon to give her space.

Makes sense. But then again youre not an easy scum to catch, right?

[Albert B. Rampage]

cakez/noraa/gamma?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Looks like I hit the jackpot and they have changed tactics.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And he calls MY progression bad lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: innocentvillager
Time for him to go
Next Noraa

if not iv, i'm going midway, take your pick

no don't give scum an out
midway is scummy but IV and co are way worse

seriously IV, if noraa is scum who tf do you think she is scum WITH??? its obviously shoshin look at her iso.

back on shoshin please DO NOT DIVIDE THE TOWN AND TAKE OFF THE PRESSURE

yeah yeah i read your wiki page so sure, one at a time

VOTE: shoshin

scummy fucking vote

(that was a joke btw)

idk, shoshin could definitely be scum despite my weaktownlean. i just don't know. let's see where this goes

fence sitting so he can escape blame when Sho flips town

i just don't understand, how as scum i could possibly be comfortable with this gamestate when ABR has a reputation for just like, powerdriving elims (probably as scum as well as town) and hammering early

says this but STAYS ON SHOSHIN WAGON

2) see if my buddies can bail me out

UNVOTE: shoshin

unvotes but then

VOTE: shoshin

REVOTES IN FIVE POSTS

VOTE: Shoshin

AND THEN REVOTES AGAIN

if anyone hammers and the flips green in the next like, 24 hours or so, that's a scumclaim in my eyes.

SAYS THIS BUT DOESNT UNVOTE ALLOWING HIS SCUMBUDDY ABR TO QUICKHAMMER

tbh shoshin was obvtown and i was going to unvote i swear, i did call for them not to be hammered in the next 24 hrs

get out of here with this

I will NOT ACCEPT VOTES FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN IV TODAY

iv it's ok
scum gotta do what they gotta do

[Albert B. Rampage]

Noraa is scum but cakez is scum PR

[Albert B. Rampage]

sorry I don't believe it, it took you too long to claim.

My real role is this: Lazy Odd-Night Tracker Even-Night Motion Detector

Ico ^

[Albert B. Rampage]

You know what?
I think the solve's just
Gamma/Cake/Midway
Might really just be that easy.
I'll see what I think after my reread tomorrow.

Another reason Noraa is scum.

Cakez used an ability on midway... you think cakez doc protected midway and then distanced today...?

[Albert B. Rampage]

@ABR, if you are so certain of IV scum, how are you coming to a scum!SirC conclusion. I think they've been on IV's ass for a while this game, and it doesn't look like bussing to me.

IV is town. Are you referring to me quoting cakez saying IV is confscum at start of d2?

[Albert B. Rampage]

It sounds like you meant beyond IV/ABR/Cakez
If you mean town PR, that’s CRAZY.

unless they are lying/not full claiming, i'm certain there's several

other

power roles in this game, at least 2 conftown ones and 1 that can go either way

How much evidence do you need that cakez is lying scum before you vote him then?

[Albert B. Rampage]

i really don't think I can replicate this kind of shameless quick stream of consciousness AtE as scum

it's too much cognitive effort for me

instead i would probably try to take a more logical approach or act annoyed, or idek, even just lurk away from the thread (as you saw in 2175, like datisi said we were in an okay spot even if i died so i was comfortable more or less just lurking it out and maybe getting lolhammered maybe not)

Cakez failed this test. Its in my case. He is very much relying on older lies and not changing his mind organically.

[Albert B. Rampage]

i was seriously considering voting noraa but

Flashwagon this tmr and then look strongly at VP Baltar day 4.

[Albert B. Rampage]

datisi do you think scum would roleblock me on N1 this game?

Zero chance of this. I will get RB for sure. But i think cakez is RB.

IF Cakez flips scum doctor then we know midway is confscum.

Cakez/noraa/midway in this case and town wins a crushing game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@ABR

-why did you believe IV claim so quickly?
-why didn't you believe the cop claim yesterday? you could have tracked the slot to find stuff out and potentially catch them day 2
-why didn't you push SirC out of the gate if you are *that* confident they are scum? There was no new information that made you do that I think? Why not believe SirC claim but do believe IV claim?

His role fits with mine perfectly. I can find out if he visited scum or didnt move at all.

Theres no cop+tracker. Just like theres no detective+tracker. I know a fakeclaim when i see one and not wasting my shot on that lying flaming trash heap of a slot.

I wasnt planning on claiming today and wanted to bide my time but cakez was taking too much control over the game. The weird delay before cakez claim was time he used to make up a fakeclaim.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Im certain cakez strategy today was to mimic me yesterday and get another ML. He wanted to make it look like hes a PR with more info than everyone. Look at how certain and tunnely he is. When you know he visited midway and has nothing on IV, you read that section very differently. I had to claim and put an end to it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Like as SOON as I'm hammered I guarantee he'll start playing up the "oops well we needed to PL him anyways" crap he did yesterday
Because he's scum

No...

Everything he says is ridiculous guys. Get rid of this troll now that everybody's checked into the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

midway's tone when pushed on their low presence felt like a butthurt townie as i said
peta picked up on a vibe i agree with, when IV seemed to be rolefishing
i think VP has a pleasant ISO if you read it

that is the...quaintest reason anyone has given to townread me

how does having a "pleasant ISO" equate to someone being town?

You are obvtown.

In fact I used your obvtowniness in order to crumb that midway was visited last night and i believed that he was visited by scum, making midway potentially town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

midwaybear is scum btw

If cakez flips scum doctor or something like that midway/noraa are the last scum for sure.

[Albert B. Rampage]

midway's tone when pushed on their low presence felt like a butthurt townie as i said
peta picked up on a vibe i agree with, when IV seemed to be rolefishing
i think VP has a pleasant ISO if you read it

that is the...quaintest reason anyone has given to townread me

how does having a "pleasant ISO" equate to someone being town?

You are obvtown.

In fact I used your obvtowniness in order to crumb that midway was visited last night and i believed that he was visited by scum, making midway potentially town.

Why did you open today completely ignoring me if visiting midway was so scummy

To trap you, brother

[Albert B. Rampage]

more from me tomorrow unless ya'll decide to quickplay this shit again

Theres no need to slowplay this? Its obvious what we need to do here. Everything hinges on cakez flip. Odds hes town is less than 1%.

[Albert B. Rampage]

i don't see why it's impossible at all? also, if there are that many town PRs, it's possible some of them are like, anti-synergizing/red herrings and/or scum has lots of power?

Theres 2 more PRs according to ico and he can confirm them. Cakez aint an investigative town power lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's not your playstyle at all

My playstyle is subtle and calculated. Theres reason behind every decision.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Like when you vigged me because I was pushing you?

You were tunneling on me so I vigged you. I proceeded to catch all the scum but they achieved their wincon before we could elim them even as a majority of town players.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Scum theater ^

[Albert B. Rampage]

Noraa arguing with cakez but no vote

Cakez arguing back because he expects to go down today and is trying to distance.

Kabuke theater.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Midway will solve itself when we discover what the hell cakez was doing to him last night.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Noraa arguing with cakez but no vote

Cakez arguing back because he expects to go down today and is trying to distance.

Kabuke theater.

why should I vote?

last I voted with consensus it was fucking wrong. Cake is a scumbutt but is there any need to be rushing the fuck out of every day?
Plus he claimed pr which makes me wary of limming there.

Your posts and emotional distress look fake as fuck. I am not asking for your vote because i think you are scum with him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Plus he claimed pr which makes me wary of limming there.

there's been 7 claims/softs/hints so far and what are the odds all of them are of the town

Put down the waffles and lets lynch scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

when did this turn into a blitz game

We got what we needed from ico, what else do you want from today? Fear is the enemy of progress, the greatest paralyzer of man.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The more you talk the harder it becomes for replacements to catch up, the less exciting the game gets. We have everything we need to make a decision.

[Albert B. Rampage]

due to the setup, the only PR we have besides me and IV would be protective or utility imo. IV doesnt need protection so ill just get the bodyguard/doc on me tonight if we have one and we sweep this easily. if we dont have one at least we get a nice head start.

what does "utility PR" mean?

Fruit vendor, neighborizer, etc.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Just having named townies regardless of their power tilts the game towards town.

Trust me cakez is not investigative. Its impossible. I was right about shoshin not being cop but I dont get credit for that. Thats ok. Ill get credit for dismantling the scum team.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'll take it. I appreciate your sense of humor in this terrible situation you've found yourself in.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Its already too townsided. Cakez cant investigate. Lets just rush through this elim lol why nobody likes to rush? I need this dopamine hit.

@datisi yeah IV should check Daisveil imo.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes the investigation is a waste of time since ill probably get killed.

Lets just get on with it man. We already caught cakez and noraa, we dont need an eternity.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What happens if you target scum again? You die?

If he targets scum he visits them

If he targets town nothing happens

[Albert B. Rampage]

Im very reluctant to lynch outside cakez since we have unclaimed PRs that are potentially even more powerful than me and IV. I think we should end the day.

[Albert B. Rampage]

More of cat person?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Dude VPB noraa is confirmed scum...you know this already...

Stop strategizing, stop making it a game... shes a real person with feelings and shes heartbroken that her offs of winning went down the drain with my claim...

[Albert B. Rampage]

Odds*

[Albert B. Rampage]

[Albert B. Rampage]

I will be kind back to you Noraa. You deserve to be treated with courtesy and fairness. I'm sorry that I was dismissive of you. You're a good person.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I feel super bad for delaying the day... this day is over, we all know what we gotta do... take ole yeller to the back and get it over with please. It's not fair to scum to keep this charade going when all the scum have been hunted, shot, downed and bled...

[Albert B. Rampage]

Oh no... What did i do wrong? Was it something i said?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Okay ill ... take a break from the game for a couple days... thanks for being honest with me... I'm sorry I made you feel that way.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ok I want to go a word in before day ends with a vp hammer. DV looks scummy as fuck.
Literally scummy ASF

thats why we are checking him tonight.

dont let noraa off the hook tmr no matter what happens guys.

her being angry at me reminds me of being angry at dkkoba in liliths game

[Albert B. Rampage]

her being angry at me reminds me of being angry at dkkoba in liliths game

was I like best friends with DK? I was so damn angry at DK that game, no?

When I was scum and DKKoba was town and I was upset at him because game was so town-sided lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

cakez and i both say she is scum but shes mad at me because im not her buddy

[Albert B. Rampage]

Oh yes. Im super mad at ABR because the game is town sided.

Im mad cuz ur being extremely S T U P I D

if ur town you fooled me but i dont believe you to be town. ill adjust and get better next time if you really are town. sorry

[Albert B. Rampage]

i dont want you to be mad at me forever

[Albert B. Rampage]

I actually feel really bad. We can vote Noraa out today if that helps.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It sucks cakez gets elimed so often lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't know what's better, to get it over quickly so they don't suffer, or to prolong the suffering and let them play. It's really tough.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Datisi help. I'm hesitating. I don't want to lose friends

[Albert B. Rampage]

what should I do

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's morally wrong to dangle people on the precipice like this for so long and really demotivating and frustrating. You are really stalling this game for no good reason. Help me make a decision and we will end this toxic day.

[Albert B. Rampage]

but... you have the speedrunner tag for best marathon player... this is nothing

[Albert B. Rampage]

I will NOT ACCEPT VOTES FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN IV TODAY

Cakez is fake as fuck.

IV - scumlord
ABR - scumlord
Noraa - scumlord
midwaybear - scummy but not scumlord level

Has no reason to investigate midway above noraa or IV given town consensus day 1.

I'm a tracker. I tracked sircakez to midway last night and I'm pretty sure he's scum.

Wow
This is correct
I will not reveal why

Stalls a claim for no reason after he's been outted for tracking midway.

I'm not full claiming stop fishing

Keeps stalling while he thinks of something to claim.

full claim now

No you're playing terribly this game and your demands for a claim yesterday got town elimmed and claiming will not do ANYTHING for town here

still operating off of his last minute unvote of shoshin which he thinks gives him towncred.

Knowing my role ONLY HELPS SCUM HERE

stupid, because he's already been outted.

Lmao ABR is probably scum tracker

illogical. hes seen me do these plays before as town.

ABR is so scared of his buddies dying today that he had to full claim his scum role

hes still operating off of his fake ass IV tunnel. implies scum want to trade 2 of theirs for 1 of him. this is preposterous.

HAHAHA CAUGHT SCUM DOESNT KNOW WHAT TO CLAIM LOL!!!

"I am scum and desperate to know town prs!!!!!!!!!!"

again. being slow to adapt to the quickly evolving situation.

the bottom line is this:

Sircakez can't think of lies fast enough so he's always a step behind and it fucking shows. He comes in with a game plan for his lies, the plan gets fucked up, and rather than an honest townie who can adapt quickly to whatever happens, he's always trying to remember his previous lies and show a continuation of thought, which is extremely obvious.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And Noraa, she's not reading the game or caring about anything happening, makes huge mistakes, is terribly sloppy. It fits into the theory of scum giving up after being caught red-handed if they're both scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Datisi tell me what you want me to do and ill sheep you, Gamma and VP Baltar. i dont want to cause offense to anyone.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What lies abr? What lies?

how does knowing your role only help scum?

how does it make sense im a scum tracker unless you think im throwing the game for scum?

why did you say that scum were willing to trade 2 scum for 1 town PR (you)?

why did you not drop any hints about your visit to midway on day 2?

And I know you gave an answer to this, but your use of your ability on midway and not noraa or IV n1 is not believable to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

look id rather people have fun and that i lose, than people not having fun and i win. so tell me what you want me to do here.

[Albert B. Rampage]

im 90% sure cakez is scum and 75% sure Noraa is scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Like part of me thinks noraa is way more likely to be scum here and we can give all the claimed power another night to prove themselves with actual results.

i think shes suiciding to protect scum PR...

[Albert B. Rampage]

guys can we just hammer cakez, we have to make a decision and end the torture for SOMEONE

this is misery

[Albert B. Rampage]

I play mafia to have fun with people, not to make people feel bad. Let's end the day guys and come back refreshed or see each other in the graveyard. Cakez makes the most sense to me, if you want to run up somebody else I can't support that but I won't yell at you or spam the thread.

[Albert B. Rampage]

UNVOTE:

Ok wait you think cakez flips town for real?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Jesus fucking christ is cakez town, am i being trolled here.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Goddamit i invented the Detective role. I will feel soooo bad if im wrong about this.

[Albert B. Rampage]

sigh

VOTE: SirCakez

ftr I think you flip town but yeah this is probs torture for you

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Cakez

Ok... this is so high stakes i dont want to be wrong

[Albert B. Rampage]

If cakez is town he will fight harder than this. Hammer away guys.

[Albert B. Rampage]

E-2

[Albert B. Rampage]

so we gonna put 2 more votes and hammer or nah?

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's funny that I think I'd actually vig ABR if I were vig.

That tracker claim wouldn't make me hesitate not even for a second.

wait what

The only theory that makes sense is that Cakez and Noraa are scum together and they have jointly given up.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fuck this game

VOTE: IV

[Albert B. Rampage]

MY ACTION FAILED

[Albert B. Rampage]

Im ready to vote out Gamma and VPB and IV

[Albert B. Rampage]

Peta ico town. Midway dunno

[Albert B. Rampage]

Dunstral town

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fucking cakez man I was seriously reconsidering his flip and could have saved him, he just meakly dipped his bannered and surrendered to scum. And I wouldn't have claimed yesterday if he just left me the fuck alone on d2 instead of attacking me.

CAKEZ NEVER ATTACK ME AS TOWN YOU ARE ALWAYS WRONG AND YOU ALWAYS WIND UP KILLED OVER IT. JUST DONT. I CANT MAKE SENSE OF THE WAY YOU PLAY.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fucking cakez man I was seriously reconsidering his flip and could have saved him

Lol may as well claim scum bud

The last 2 mislynch don't happen without you.

VOTE: VPB

[Albert B. Rampage]

IT SAID IT FAILED

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fucking hell I was hoping to be in the graveyard. Shoulda claimed full tracker.

[Albert B. Rampage]

did a quick read but this is basicly a scum claim, no?

I said I wasn't sure if cakez was scum and he didnt jump on the opportunity he just said "nope, kill me".

[Albert B. Rampage]

VPB knows im not gonna stand for this and is gonna 1 v 1 me today

Everyone just hold your claims its not necessary

[Albert B. Rampage]

VPB knows im not gonna stand for this and is gonna 1 v 1 me today

lol

ur already dead then :p

ha! you havent seen my case on him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VP Baltar is scum and I will easily win a 1v1 against him, not even joking. No one wins 1 v 1 against me. It's simply never happened as far back as I can remember. The question is if he's scum or not. We will find out as I case him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

why should we massclaim? its not LYLO.

[Albert B. Rampage]

massclaim only helps scum. theres a scum roleblocker confirmed.

[Albert B. Rampage]

there is no town roleblocker.

[Albert B. Rampage]

vpb claims first then gets the yeet

[Albert B. Rampage]

ok if no mass claim

then we yeeting in noraa/abr

yes?

noraa doesnt get mad as scum in this scenario. she is thrilled. conftown slot. what crack are you smoking?

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, you've already powered thru 2 town flips

ur either town with absolutely terrible reads
or trying to power wolf

so i don't think you have much to say today

vpb was there every step of the way dude go read his iso.

[Albert B. Rampage]

vpb claims first then gets the yeet

he's absolutely not claiming first and i'm solidly standing in your way to yeet them

idgaf you are scumsiding and can cry about it in postgame after town wins

[Albert B. Rampage]

vpb was there every step of the way dude go read his iso.

like, i'm positive i'm not the only one who will fight a VP flip here

this is ridiculous. VPB is the scummiest slot in the game by far.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Just because I win my 1v1 with cakez, doesn't make cakez "right" for thinking I'm scum because we both are town investigatives. What it does is that it makes this setup wild.

The setup is fucked up. We should have let cakez and I do our thing last night and we would have been better off.

So here's what we can guess:

Scum have massive power too, ninja/roleblocker/other PR

I was not wrong to suspect that both town and scum are overloaded with power this game, and that the investigation on midway was weird. Cakez was not wrong to doubt my tracker claim knowing he was a detective.

Are we going to let setup spec and setup meta rule our lives?

Scum killed Alisae because they weren't threatened at all day 1

Sir cakez said this and he was right. Day 1 the pressure was on noraa and IV. Scum laughed and killed alisae before his first post.

Datsi and Ico softclaimed PR for no good reason

Scum think they can take me down during the day before I get my track off on them which is interesting. My day play is very persuasive, do they think that I can't power lynch a third slot on them? That's certainly a bold take which I will remedy to by the end of today.

Where do we go from here

1) We need to look at who skirted by day 1 without any suspicion laid on them (VPB is one, Gamma another)
2) We need to look at who had the weirdest take on Shoshin, who wanted to vote out IV, and who wanted to vote out cakez
3) We need to look at what Datisi was saying

[Albert B. Rampage]

Dunstral is the only cleared slot as far as I'm concerned and I strongly TR petapan. So let's see what happens when they check in.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I find his posts merely pleasant, but there's nothing that is townie.

yep. hes very pleasant and mature. thats his personality, not his alignment. love you VPB

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Gamma

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm moving and cyberpunk 2077 is coming out wednesday.

My posting will be greatly reduced.

I see that VPB has fakeclaimed.

VOTE: VPB

FOS Gamma

[Albert B. Rampage]

Final reads. VPB. Gamma. Deasvail. We can still win if you guys are smart.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not going to have time to catch up. IV is right on all points. IV has 2 votes today.

Since he isn't voting anyone yet, I will:

VOTE: Gamma

VPB if town get your head outta your ass I am obviously not competent enough as scum to pull this off.

[Albert B. Rampage]

you can call me read on him "pocketed", "colored", "biased" all you want, because he "saved me" or at least defended me from the D2 elim. let me be clear on a few GTH reasons why i thought he was town though, outside of that:

-the claim truly was like, almost completely unnecessary, there's almost no reason to not just kill cakez at night
-the shoshin "cc" was consistent with the story, along with the tunneling cakez on role mechanics, etc, it's all very consistent with someone who is expecting a very traditional kind of setup without too many investigatives
-the role? like wtf? the only reasonable explanation is that he's the scum version of the role, but the lazy modifier seems really random, not something he'd come up with
-the blow-up at me for not joining him on Cakez does not seem like, anything he would do as scum, that definitely felt fucking real
-tone, general frustration, the "feeling bad about tunneling scum!Cakez", it just all expressed a wide range of emotions that had to be faked by scum which all seems pretty unlikely especially coming from a player who loves to be Town.

points ive heard against him:
-setup spec, sure, I don't know too much about it but gypyx setups are apparently fucking wild so whatever not confscum for me
-okay he was the driver of two townie elims but that... happens even if he is town? everyone else joined those wagons for a reason
-he's trying to deflect responsibility from the elims with the whole "omg cakez I was about to 180 on you but you gave up" rant. I don't even think that is that scummy on further reflection. It's so obvious he was the driver of the wagons. As scum it obviously looks bad if he tries to deflect responsibility away from himself, so I think the read here being scum!indicative is just... lazy

This <3

Idk if Gamma is scum, I think so.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm playing exceptionally stupid this game, as Noraa would say.

I haven't read this game since Friday.

IV has my support, he can choose who I place my vote on.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Idk what a friendly neighbor is, but why cant VP be a scum neighborizer?

How is it possible we have a tracker, detective, and a role that is confirmable?

It's impossible.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're good and you're right. What kind of crazy setup is this.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've never seen this role in my life. All my games are linked neatly in my wiki if you want to check.

[Albert B. Rampage]

My role is a red herring, scum have ninja.

Theres gotta be a scum counter to detective as well.

Thats about all I can say.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also, town would just wiki a role they didn't know. Gah, I hate my brain and my desire to trust people. It is obvious ABR is scum.

That's what I said about Cakez.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Gamma is sure to flip scum. My emotions aren't fake, go to hell.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Gamma/Ico/DV I think.

[Albert B. Rampage]

GTFO with your tunnel vision.

[Albert B. Rampage]

When you're right, they try to rush your elim.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What would you like me to do to convince you that I'm town?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why did you say VP Baltar claimed scum after seeing their claim, if you didn't know what friendly neighbor was?

I was pretty dead set on VPB scum after the last 2 days of him riding my coattails and pushing through townie lynches.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You specifically said I fake claimed.

I would have said that for any PR claim you made. There was no trust.

Now I'm still baffled at your terrible play but I admit it makes no sense for you to be scum. So we are forced to work together again. Don't make the worse mistake of this game by lynching me when I can track someone tonight and confirm their moves.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's really stupid we lynched Cakez when we could have gotten a result from him.

I made a massive mistake.

But now to repeat that mistake again when I can track is the epitome of stupidity.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's fucking stupid to lynch a tracker who can track tonight. If you don't believe me you should still try to lynch my scumbuddies instead of me. I'm not following the game close enough to understand the play by play but rule 1 is if it's not LYLO you don't lynch claimed PRs. Only the scum and confbias townies trying to rush an elim on me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We need to lynch a claimed vt today, this is fucked up that the tracker is the only player being wagoned with no counterwagon. 100% scum's plan after their easy wins day 1 and day 2.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's a good chance we lynch the roleblocker.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We need to listen to VPB and he needs to pick a non-PR for us to vote out.

This is the way. We can't keep making the same mistakes over and over again without learning anything while scum coast by.

[Albert B. Rampage]

you know what, this is stupid, no one really responded to my towncase, clearly no one was even remotely convinced, and unless i like, reiterate my towncase or literally solve the game

if people aren't going to reconsider then why am i even putting in the effort when i could be doing other things

You're the only one making sense. But you're not offering alternatives.

Assuming I'm town we have to press the attack on scum and make them lose their iron grip on the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, why do you think gamma is scum? i skimmed their ISO recently and have them pretty like, null ish, despite having them as town before

I think Gamma is lazy scum. I think I've solved the game and midway, you, and VPB are all town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

tbh, assuming the lulwut is a reaction to my quote, it almost feels genuine, like scum!Gamma would never have killed Datisi over town!ABR

Thats ridiculous.

SCUM ARE PUSHING TO FINISH THIS GAME WITH TOWN LYNCHING ALL ITS PRS AND NKING VP BALTAR TONIGHT WE NEED TO BAND TOGETHER AND PUSH BACK OR WE WILL BE STEAMROLLED

[Albert B. Rampage]

Basically we have a chance if we flip dunstral to our side. And VPB comes around before hes NK'd. And midway hammers one of the claimed VTs.

Thats the only chance we have to salvage.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Gamma is scum lets vote him and let the rest make their choice. IV you need to vote because this is stupid to play defense and offer no one as CW.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm so obviously town here that it hurts that people are tunnel vision on me due to setup spec. But I can't fault them because I fell into the same trap yesterday. Don't trust any setup spec in gypx game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Focus on convincing dunstral VPB and midway.

I dont trust the rest and its a waste of time.

Scums best bet is to stick together and townread each other at this point.

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's fair. I guess I would have just found him continuously pushing Cakez to be more scummy than what he did here. Now, I'm seeing his posts after the hammer and they seem pretty genuine.

VOTE: Cakez

Ok... this is so high stakes i dont want to be wrong

Although voting Cakez was not great, I understand the feeling of dedicating so much to a push that it almost clouds your judgement. I might be overshooting how AI these posts are, but for some reason I really want to townread ABR here.

midway makes some good posts here and there, gives me hope hes town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not sure what to do and deadline seems to be near. I'd prefer to hit scum today.

YO VOTE GAMMA WITH US WE NEED YOUR VOTE SUPER BADLY

SCUM ARE LIKE ON THE BRINK OF LYNCHING A TRACKER AND NKING VPB

JUST DO IT I NEED YOU TO GIVE US A FUCKING BOOST MAN WE CAN WIN THIS TRUST ME

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fuck man lets lynch DV then how tf is he not scum??????

For sure he is.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: DV

DO IT MOTHERFUCKERS.

I WILL LYNCH SCUM BEFORE I DIE.

YOU WILL NEVER SEE ME GOING DOWN MEEKLY INTO THE NIGHT

I AM YOUR WORSE NIGHTMARE

[Albert B. Rampage]

ITS DV AND GAMMA FOR SURE 100%

[Albert B. Rampage]

That would probably be my solve if ABR is town. But that is what I'm conflicted on.
DV seems obviously scummy at this point. We could wagon him, but I also want to feel good on my read of ABR.

100% we can win this. Don't listen to the consensus being controlled by the scum. They are pulling the veil over your eyes with subpar play because me and vpb are idiots.

THIS IS SALVAGABLE PREPARE FOR THE GREAT COMEBACK STORY

[Albert B. Rampage]

They can easily appear as the town consensus since they are hiding and limping along following idiots like me and vpb.

We have to stop them.Lets root them out today. I promise you I'm town PR.

I have a lazy modifier so when we get down to 1 scum I become useless anyway.

DO NOT vote me out today.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If we lynch scum roleblocker, scum will need to NK me over VPB unless they have ninja so VPB will get a second chance to re-evaluate things with me as town.

LETS GO

[Albert B. Rampage]

DUNSTRAL YOU BETTER MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE YOU FUCK

VPB IF YOU EVER BELIEVED IN ME YOU BETTER FUCKING BELIEVE IN ME NOW OR WE ARE ALL GOING DOWN

[Albert B. Rampage]

I really want to win because Shoshin was so rude and annoying to everyone in this town so it would be a big fuck you to her to turn this around, and I want to show Sircakez how it's done and to NEVER GIVE UP AS TOWN, to go hard and fight back until the last day, the last vote, the last second if you have to.

WE NEED TO WIN BECAUSE OF OUR PAST MISTAKES

[Albert B. Rampage]

I swear to god we will end up like the town of 2179, modded by TGP if you don't work with me today. I promise you we will have given scum a perfect victory and this will go down as one of the epic fails on this site.

LETS TAKE BACK 2180!!!!! ARE YOU WITH ME?????

[Albert B. Rampage]

these were like, my only notes on my skim. conclusion is that this could be the scumteam. im not at all sure, but it's definitely possible

now i'm paranoid we're all town and scum Noraa is skating by here

Maybe? Why can’t it be mwb or DV or something
Though I also dislike that Noraa’s activity has dropped hard. You might actually be onto something there.

'You might actually be onto something here" gross

Gamma v. Iconeum 1578-etc seems like... a potentially somewhat genuine exchange in information that is giving me a little pause
Gamma v. DV 1925 weird interaction that might not be partnery? idk

it seems none of ico, gamma, dv really cared about ABR vs. Cakez

they all just let that happen/passively supported it, and instead decided to go push scummy slot Noraa

this is like, the best thing for them: when 2 TPR are at each others throats, push a 3rd scummy looking townie, and town will be so distracted by all the wagons but oh, they're all town, wow this is great

ico "sad panda" could've been anything

gamma, dv, ico etc all kind of TR'd ABR around eod2, and i think ico/DV at least mentioned that all 3 TPRs *could* be town. suddenly they want to yeet ABR on D3 with little turnaround, little second guessing, just... yep fine with me now... oh wait don't forget about noraa-slot that we've been fake-tunnelling all game!

none of ico's claims or info is outside of scumrange for ico that knew they got blocked D1 and visited by FN

You did it bro, you cracked the case. I knew you were a good player I just knew it. Bravo. WE ARE TAKING BACK 2180 BITCHES!

[Albert B. Rampage]

PETAPAN YOU COME BACK HERE AND YOU READ ALL OF IVS POSTS HE WROTE TODAY