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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:04 am

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VOTE: noraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:47 am

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Thanks for the help Peta ^.^
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Post Post #49 (isolation #2) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:04 am

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VOTE: abr
I can't be convinced to change this
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Post Post #57 (isolation #3) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:19 am

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In post 53, Noraa wrote:
In post 49, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: abr
I can't be convinced to change this
cake is adorable lol.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #4) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:19 am

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In post 55, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 49, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: abr
I can't be convinced to change this
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You have to earn a toenread!
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Post Post #65 (isolation #5) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:19 pm

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They basically mean the same thing...
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Post Post #125 (isolation #6) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:06 pm

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In post 78, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 65, SirCakez wrote:They basically mean the same thing...
I didn't do anything to earn a SR. But you twisted that around for your own scummy purposes.
Dude get out of here with this
Everybody knows what you meant and you're playing word salad
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Post Post #126 (isolation #7) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:07 pm

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In post 123, Datisi wrote:i feel like there's something very wrong with the baltar/noraa interactions here but it's probably me being annoyed at both of them for different reasons
What is this crappy shading
"They seem wrong but also it's just probably me"
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Post Post #276 (isolation #8) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:02 pm

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In post 141, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 121, Noraa wrote:
In post 119, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 116, Noraa wrote:find a scum and I'll give you a big slice.
Why you gotta slice cakez up... what he do
we don't slice cakey!
we go to the bakery and find a cake.
But cakez IS scum, don't have to find him in no bakery :o
Vote me then
In post 143, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 125, SirCakez wrote:
In post 78, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 65, SirCakez wrote:They basically mean the same thing...
I didn't do anything to earn a SR. But you twisted that around for your own scummy purposes.
Dude get out of here with this
Everybody knows what you meant and you're playing word salad
Bruh you always SR me when I'm town.

That's it! I'm going for you.

VOTE: Cakez
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In post 205, VP Baltar wrote:Nothing too serious yet. You?
Nora's obviously town. Gamma's scummy for supporting votes on me, & unwnd's towny for voting Gamma.
Dislike this post a lot
All of these reads seems forced and made up
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Post Post #277 (isolation #9) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:03 pm

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Kinda feel like Noraa is leaning a little too hard on the "friends with everyone" shtick
I mean
She IS friends with everyone
But also this is mafia ya?
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Post Post #343 (isolation #10) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:57 am

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In post 279, midwaybear wrote:People seem way too eager to make reads to the point where I feel like accuracy is being compromised.
I actually think this is scum indicative
See: Shoshin
In post 280, Noraa wrote:
In post 277, SirCakez wrote:Kinda feel like Noraa is leaning a little too hard on the "friends with everyone" shtick
I mean
She IS friends with everyone
But also this is mafia ya?
I rarely get games like this as town. let me enjoy being UTR for once :mrgreen:
mmm we'll see about that missus
In post 288, unwnd wrote:Yes

The game is boring at the surface level for me, I'm not interested in what people type most of the time. I think it's all very easy to fake, therefore I look for tells that aren't explicit such as someone's timing or their delivery. I think scum are more likely to process their posts and even use rhetoric to give off a certain vibe, while townies are shamefully honest and full of mistakes. When it comes to you midway, my issue with reading you is that you seem afraid of mistakes. You'd rather comfortably sideline and say things like 'people are too quick to give reads' but I think that's both unhelpful and lazy. I stand by what I said earlier: Post whatever you want as long as it doesn't start to become hyperposting. You seem very afraid of being judged for a wrong read and I'm not sure if it's because you think you should really really think about them when there's about 283 posts (e.g You don't understand the concept of D1), or you're nervous for scum reasons; Right now I lean the latter.
this is flawed because if anything mastina's playstyle gets her scumread more, not townread
In post 292, innocentvillager wrote:I will maybe do something sometime
art thou scum?
In post 304, Datisi wrote:but the way she's giving out reads without properly explaining any of them makes me think she's more interested in having thoughts about the game than presenting those thoughts in a way that would earn her townpoints.
again I think this is actually scum indicative
In post 332, Albert B. Rampage wrote:We can do this the easy way or the hard way and I know you guys like the latter better, so I will let you guys discuss for a week, and then come back and wrangle the votes I need to kill scum like Shoshin.
join me and Baltar

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Post Post #352 (isolation #11) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:09 am

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In post 344, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 217, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 214, Shoshin wrote:
In post 208, Albert B. Rampage wrote:VOTE: Noraa
I also find this scummy from ABR.
I highly doubt that you can read Noraa, her friendliness is NAI, she seems like she slip by right under your nose if you were an informed cop, and your chainsaw defense of your fake townread screams scum to me.

VOTE: Shoshin
Cakez isn't following this game closely.
shhhhhh
In post 345, Shoshin wrote:SirCake, why you vote me?
because your reads seem faked
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Post Post #353 (isolation #12) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:10 am

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In post 351, Shoshin wrote:I take back my town read on Nora.
why?
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Post Post #360 (isolation #13) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:27 am

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In post 354, Shoshin wrote:You played with me before, SirCake. What's different this game?
remind me when? they all blend together
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Post Post #365 (isolation #14) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:33 am

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In post 362, Shoshin wrote:
In post 360, SirCakez wrote:
In post 354, Shoshin wrote:You played with me before, SirCake. What's different this game?
remind me when? they all blend together
We played a couple games but it was over a year ago. My takeaway was that you were a very scummy towny, and I correctly read you both times. I played exactly like this, & and you didn't scumread me in those games. One of the games waa the FORTNIGHT game where half the players were playing this way, and they were all town. It's scum who tend to over explain what they're doing -- scum like to leave a record justifying all their behaviors. What I'm doing is not scummy, neither for me nor in general.
ok I don't remember those games so I am not using meta here
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Post Post #383 (isolation #15) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:00 am

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noraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
are you scum??
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Post Post #388 (isolation #16) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:04 am

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it's to subtly but not too obviously indicate my slowly developing SR on you
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Post Post #394 (isolation #17) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:03 am

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In post 389, Noraa wrote:
In post 388, SirCakez wrote:it's to subtly but not too obviously indicate my slowly developing SR on you
cool. back it up with a 5 paragraph essay and I'll consider ur application to my town block.
Ah the town block where everyone is elimmed in three days?
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Post Post #395 (isolation #18) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:03 am

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In post 391, VP Baltar wrote:iv is like a Not_Mafia alt, right?
No he's not normally like this he's usually very thoughtful
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Post Post #417 (isolation #19) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:00 pm

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Yeah iv is probably scum
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Post Post #422 (isolation #20) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:27 pm

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In post 420, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 417, SirCakez wrote:Yeah iv is probably scum
What makes you get that impression? Should we yeet iv over shoshin?
I feel he's not trying here and I believe iv tried as town
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Post Post #423 (isolation #21) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:27 pm

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tries*
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Post Post #426 (isolation #22) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:33 pm

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In post 425, Noraa wrote:lmfao IV has like ... 2 posts. where tf does a read on them come out of
why are you shutting down all my pushes
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Post Post #430 (isolation #23) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:50 pm

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In post 427, Noraa wrote:more importantly, why are ur pushes so easily shut down? have u ever thought that maybe you need to uh ... convince people?
How are either of my pushes shut down
You're just trying and failing
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Post Post #663 (isolation #24) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:08 am

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y'all posted a lot overnight
Be here later
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Post Post #722 (isolation #25) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:54 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #822 (isolation #26) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:55 am

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beep beep im a catching up jeep
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Post Post #832 (isolation #27) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:58 am

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In post 468, Noraa wrote:
In post 430, SirCakez wrote:
In post 427, Noraa wrote:more importantly, why are ur pushes so easily shut down? have u ever thought that maybe you need to uh ... convince people?
How are either of my pushes shut down
You're just trying and failing
you don't really have pushes. its more just u saying "iv is scum" and then calling it a push when theres no ... evidence?

to make it clear, I do not TR iv but I don't understand how anyone reads a slot like NM thru like ... 2 posts.
ok then shutting down my SRs

I'm only on page 20 but I'm liking the Shoshin wagon less and less
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Post Post #864 (isolation #28) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:06 am

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In post 503, Gamma Emerald wrote:My Noraa-Cakez-unwnd townblock still exists fyi
since when is this a thing?

still reading but I want to shake a different tree
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Post Post #866 (isolation #29) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:07 am

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I'm kinda both reading what's going on now and catching up and the claims from both ends seem obviously fake
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Post Post #867 (isolation #30) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:07 am

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ok well then that's that
I will be coming after ABR and co with fire tomorrow if this flips green
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Post Post #870 (isolation #31) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:08 am

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In post 546, Gamma Emerald wrote:Cakez can you stop voting Shoshin pls
don't you SR ABR, actually? Why are you letting him lead you?
what happened to this
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Post Post #873 (isolation #32) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:09 am

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ABR would YOLO dive this as scum
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Post Post #877 (isolation #33) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:11 am

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this was town you guys are stupid for pushing this through so fast
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Post Post #880 (isolation #34) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:11 am

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looking at a pool of (ABR, Noraa, IV, Gamma) right now
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Post Post #884 (isolation #35) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:13 am

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In post 665, Noraa wrote:shoshin/iv/__
is it really just that easy?
In post 667, Noraa wrote:I keep feeling like something's wrong.
Like Shoshin is being weird.
The meta reason doesn't even help. In fact, I feel like this really isn't her town meta anyways but then if she's scum and using her town meta, how tf does it end up so ... off?
iv scummy. dat has a decent case on it and I can buy it.
But is it really this easy?
Like maybe it is but im not really sure if it's really this easy.
bad bad posting
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Post Post #890 (isolation #36) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:14 am

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In post 886, Noraa wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 881, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 493, Noraa wrote:If shoshin is town, u literally just killed one of town's most powerful players.
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I hope you were right ABR. If you aren't, im never listening to you again on day 1's >:(
Noraa is already blaming someone else for this inevitable townflip that she helped make
She is scum
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Post Post #891 (isolation #37) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:15 am

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In post 670, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 667, Noraa wrote:I keep feeling like something's wrong.
Like Shoshin is being weird.
The meta reason doesn't even help. In fact, I feel like this really isn't her town meta anyways but then if she's scum and using her town meta, how tf does it end up so ... off?
iv scummy. dat has a decent case on it and I can buy it.
But is it really this easy?
Like maybe it is but im not really sure if it's really this easy.
VOTE: Noraa

i don't believe this is a real thought
In post 678, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 673, Albert B. Rampage wrote:seriously IV, if noraa is scum who tf do you think she is scum WITH??? its obviously shoshin look at her iso.

back on shoshin please DO NOT DIVIDE THE TOWN AND TAKE OFF THE PRESSURE
yeah yeah i read your wiki page so sure, one at a time

VOTE: shoshin
also scum
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Post Post #895 (isolation #38) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:16 am

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lol you don't get to talk here ABR
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Post Post #897 (isolation #39) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:17 am

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In post 724, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 722, SirCakez wrote:UNVOTE:
Way too early for a fucking hammer
i think if someone hammers at this point and shoshin is town (unlikely), we trade 1 for 1.

well noraa you can vote shoshin now if it pleases you :lol:
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Post Post #902 (isolation #40) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:18 am

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In post 746, Noraa wrote:Ok. I'll help you push this wagon thru. the resistance to this wagon is plenty and it gives me pause.
what resistance
it got to L-1 in less than 24 hours
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Post Post #905 (isolation #41) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:19 am

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In post 750, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Shoshin is at L-1, everybody pay attention to this so no one "accidentally" hammers
pretty sure this is a classic scumtell
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Post Post #912 (isolation #42) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:20 am

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In post 906, Gamma Emerald wrote:Like Cakez idc how shoshin read, do you not agree her behavior here is rather deplorable?
yeah she was obnoxious but that doesn't make her scum
since when are PLs a good outcome on day 1???
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Post Post #922 (isolation #43) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:23 am

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In post 916, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 905, SirCakez wrote:
In post 750, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Shoshin is at L-1, everybody pay attention to this so no one "accidentally" hammers
pretty sure this is a classic scumtell
Also where was this when I originally called you out on this? Like damn dude, this turnaround kinda shady.
?????
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since when are PLs a good outcome on day 1???
i dont care about her personality, she was completely untrustworthy and incompetent
who cares??
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Post Post #925 (isolation #44) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:23 am

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In post 915, petapan wrote:idk why a bunch of people were hemming and hawing around iv's shitty posts but staying on the shoshin vote
^^^ yeah the dude is scum
opening with a vote on him tomorrow regardless of shoshin flip I think
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Post Post #929 (isolation #45) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:24 am

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its disgusting how Noraa and ABR were so into getting Shoshin flipped ASAP and are now acting all like it wasn't their fault that we just quickelimmed town
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Post Post #933 (isolation #46) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:25 am

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In post 860, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Shoshin
I really don’t like how you treated me. And if you REALLY ARE a town PR, you fecked up by switching claims at the slightest pressure on your claim. You essentially have made your role a waste if that’s the case.
this is such a crappy reason for a vote
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Post Post #935 (isolation #47) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:26 am

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i am caught up
this wagon was a dumpster fire and I would not be surprised if all three scum were on it
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Post Post #950 (isolation #48) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:31 am

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i'm mind melding Peta rn
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:00 am

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VOTE: innocentvillager
Time for him to go
Next Noraa
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Post Post #1011 (isolation #50) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:01 am

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Alisae kill is from a team who did not want new viewpoints on the game
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Post Post #1013 (isolation #51) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:01 am

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Nope she's scum
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Post Post #1017 (isolation #52) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:02 am

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Now that Xenoblade 2 is over I can say that Noraa definitely reminds me of that game
Really spazzy and no consistency in reads or pushes
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #53) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:03 am

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Midwaybear is also probably scum
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Post Post #1023 (isolation #54) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 1016, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1011, SirCakez wrote:Alisae kill is from a team who did not want new viewpoints on the game
maybe that suggests you should unvote me then yeah cuz i was probably the next wagon yah?
No it points to Noraa and ABR
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #55) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:06 am

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In post 1027, innocentvillager wrote:Cakez, literally everyone scumread me at the end of yeserday

there was not a single person who thinks im town, so yeah it kind of does point to me
You were dead no matter what
My theory is scum are more worried about the other two
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #56) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:06 am

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In post 1032, Noraa wrote:Also cake you haven't even played two full games with me. U have zero right to use meta against me. I fucking always die to meta trash.
Regardless of meta you're scummy af this game
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Post Post #1037 (isolation #57) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:06 am

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In post 1025, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1019, SirCakez wrote:Midwaybear is also probably scum
Why??
Bad posturing around Shoshin and lack of presence
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Post Post #1040 (isolation #58) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:07 am

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In post 1034, innocentvillager wrote:someone save me
innocentvillager wrote:datisi please engage me don't give up on me
scum flailing
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Post Post #1043 (isolation #59) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:07 am

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In post 1039, petapan wrote:this was why i hated her just saying you were LHF-ish because it didn't feel like a real attempt to sort you and she'd just seen you get blown out of the water on a bad d1 as scum. more words later
Yup! Felt like a pocket attempt
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #60) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:09 am

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In post 1049, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1037, SirCakez wrote:lack of presence
lol are you serious? When have I ever had a presence in a game
VOTE: SirCakez
Scum ass response
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #61) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:10 am

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In post 1051, innocentvillager wrote:{ABR, Iconeum, DeasVail}
{midwaybear}
Crappy distancing
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Post Post #1058 (isolation #62) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:10 am

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In post 1056, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1054, SirCakez wrote:Scum ass response
Sure dude. Want to talk about why you decided to give "lack of presence" to scumread me?
Because your day 1 was awful and you did nothing to progress the game aside from loling on the Shoshin wagon
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #63) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:11 am

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Your Datisi vote was crap and had no conviction behind it
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Post Post #1061 (isolation #64) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:11 am

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In post 1059, innocentvillager wrote:
HARDCLAIM!!! I'M A TOWN DISLOYAL HIDER!!! I TARGETED MIDWAYBEAR LAST NIGHT!!!
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #65) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:14 am

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It's just bullshit don't read into it
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #66) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:27 am

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In post 1094, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1078, Datisi wrote:that is a role i could believe gypyx to be insane enough to come up with but frankly iv is scum so

VOTE: iv
I tentatively believe the claim. Unvote. Dont rush.
scumlord
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Post Post #1110 (isolation #67) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:27 am

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nobody would even trust his results
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #68) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:28 am

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In post 1109, Albert B. Rampage wrote:IV can investigate scum if we have a tracker/watcher.

Theres zero chance hes getting flipped today I dont give a fuck what anyone says.
lol no IV is going out today no matter what
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #69) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:29 am

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In post 1113, Albert B. Rampage wrote:VOTE: Sircakez

Everybody join
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #70) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:29 am

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ABR is flailing he knows his buddy is going down and then Noraa and him will follow
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Post Post #1118 (isolation #71) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:29 am

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In post 1105, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1097, Datisi wrote:if there's a role that saw iv visit mwb/no visit, they should stay quiet and come out with that stuff *after* we flip iv
No. If theres a role that can give info on this situation they should claim it.
this is such a scummy post
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Post Post #1122 (isolation #72) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:30 am

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In post 1117, Datisi wrote:if not iv, i'm going midway, take your pick
no don't give scum an out
midway is scummy but IV and co are way worse
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #73) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:31 am

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In post 862, Albert B. Rampage wrote:and she retracted her fakeclaim afterwards and gave us another fakeclaim. what a bad play. lynch it with fire

VOTE: Shoshin
In post 872, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 868, Noraa wrote:shoshin were you town?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh yeah you can definitely expect a straight answer from a disgruntled scum/town slot who threatens to siteflake in the middle of the game
In post 885, Albert B. Rampage wrote:We needed to get rid of this awful slot before it caused us problems in the long run. NO REGRATS.
In post 892, Albert B. Rampage wrote:We did the right thing either way. I was literally going to change my vote if she had claimed VT or a reasonable PR. It's too bad she decided to prioritize her ego over the group's enjoyment.
In post 896, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 895, SirCakez wrote:lol you don't get to talk here ABR
Sure I do, I got rid of a terrible player that would have scumsided and lost us the game. You don't have to thank me, I work for free.
just look at this AWFUL progression on Shoshin
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #74) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:32 am

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In post 1124, petapan wrote:
In post 1108, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1094, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1078, Datisi wrote:that is a role i could believe gypyx to be insane enough to come up with but frankly iv is scum so

VOTE: iv
I tentatively believe the claim. Unvote. Dont rush.
scumlord
ABR would definitely make this shit up as scum
do you think abr would play the way he's been playing as scum?
100%
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Post Post #1127 (isolation #75) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:32 am

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actually I may want to do ABR tomorrow instead of IV
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #76) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:32 am

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instead of Noraa*
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Post Post #1132 (isolation #77) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:34 am

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In post 678, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 673, Albert B. Rampage wrote:seriously IV, if noraa is scum who tf do you think she is scum WITH??? its obviously shoshin look at her iso.

back on shoshin please DO NOT DIVIDE THE TOWN AND TAKE OFF THE PRESSURE
yeah yeah i read your wiki page so sure, one at a time

VOTE: shoshin
scummy fucking vote
In post 681, innocentvillager wrote:(that was a joke btw)

idk, shoshin could definitely be scum despite my weaktownlean. i just don't know. let's see where this goes
fence sitting so he can escape blame when Sho flips town
In post 695, innocentvillager wrote:i just don't understand, how as scum i could possibly be comfortable with this gamestate when ABR has a reputation for just like, powerdriving elims (probably as scum as well as town) and hammering early
says this but STAYS ON SHOSHIN WAGON
In post 740, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 738, Albert B. Rampage wrote:2) see if my buddies can bail me out
UNVOTE: shoshin
unvotes but then
In post 745, innocentvillager wrote:VOTE: shoshin
REVOTES IN FIVE POSTS
In post 751, innocentvillager wrote:VOTE: Shoshin
AND THEN REVOTES AGAIN
In post 775, innocentvillager wrote:if anyone hammers and the flips green in the next like, 24 hours or so, that's a scumclaim in my eyes.
SAYS THIS BUT DOESNT UNVOTE ALLOWING HIS SCUMBUDDY ABR TO QUICKHAMMER
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In post 1130, innocentvillager wrote:tbh shoshin was obvtown and i was going to unvote i swear, i did call for them not to be hammered in the next 24 hrs
get out of here with this
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #79) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:35 am

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I will NOT ACCEPT VOTES FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN IV TODAY
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Post Post #1140 (isolation #80) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:36 am

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iv it's ok
scum gotta do what they gotta do
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Post Post #1141 (isolation #81) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:36 am

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In post 1139, Datisi wrote:cakez, can i get shotgun reads/poe from you? (if you hadn't done so in the past 6 pages, it was fast)
what does shotgun mean
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Post Post #1144 (isolation #82) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:38 am

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IV - scumlord
ABR - scumlord
Noraa - scumlord
midwaybear - scummy but not scumlord level
Ico - - fine prob town others are way worse. if my SRs flipped town somehow he would slide.
DV - fine prob town others are way worse
Gamma - fine
VP Baltar - townlean
Datisi - townlean esp because of that shitty IV vote day 1
peta - hella town he mindmelds me
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #83) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:39 am

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Ico doesn't have a post in the game????????
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Post Post #1146 (isolation #84) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:40 am

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LOL scratch that read then I was thinking of another game
still by POE he's not on my radar atm
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #85) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:20 am

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In post 1149, innocentvillager wrote:feel like scum is just letting town eat itself up this game

somehow, the consensus takes are just wrong, tbh i might need to rethink midway but idek if ill have that luxury

once DV and Ico weigh in we might have a little more color, maybe not

Baltar could be scum too
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Post Post #1201 (isolation #86) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:21 am

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In post 1151, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm a tracker. I tracked sircakez to midway last night and I'm pretty sure he's scum.
Wow :facepalm:
This is correct
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Post Post #1203 (isolation #87) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:21 am

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I'm not full claiming stop fishing
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Post Post #1205 (isolation #88) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:22 am

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I got a result from midway that was unclear
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #89) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:23 am

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In post 1194, Noraa wrote:the radio silence from cake is great
I was raging at demons souls this shade is garbage
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Post Post #1209 (isolation #90) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:23 am

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A tracker + my role makes me think there is absolutely no way IV's role exists
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Post Post #1211 (isolation #91) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:24 am

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In post 1208, Albert B. Rampage wrote:full claim now
No you're playing terribly this game and your demands for a claim yesterday got town elimmed and claiming will not do ANYTHING for town here
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Post Post #1212 (isolation #92) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:24 am

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stop trying to fucking intimidate me
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Post Post #1215 (isolation #93) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:25 am

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Bullshit
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Post Post #1216 (isolation #94) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:25 am

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Knowing my role ONLY HELPS SCUM HERE
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Post Post #1219 (isolation #95) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:26 am

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Lmao ABR is probably scum tracker
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Post Post #1221 (isolation #96) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:27 am

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In post 1218, Datisi wrote:
In post 1209, SirCakez wrote:A tracker + my role makes me think there is absolutely no way IV's role exists
honestly if that's the case might as well out it because we're gonna be here until that gets resolved?
This is a better reason to claim then Abr's garbage
Albert B. Rampage wrote:1 v 1
Nope IV is dying
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Post Post #1223 (isolation #97) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:27 am

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In post 1222, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I have him dead to rights and it's over.
Scumlord
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Post Post #1224 (isolation #98) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:27 am

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ABR is so scared of his buddies dying today that he had to full claim his scum role
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Post Post #1230 (isolation #99) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:29 am

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In post 1226, Albert B. Rampage wrote:HAHAHA CAUGHT SCUM DOESNT KNOW WHAT TO CLAIM LOL!!!
"I am scum and desperate to know town prs!!!!!!!!!!"
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #100) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:29 am

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In post 1229, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1224, SirCakez wrote:ABR is so scared of his buddies dying today that he had to full claim his scum role
this doesn't really support your hypothesis that scum are comfortable sans me...
I already said they were yesterday not now
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Post Post #1234 (isolation #101) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:30 am

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In post 1228, Datisi wrote:cakez i dislike this bullshit as much as anyone but if there truly is countering claims between you/iv/abr it's better to have it out

besides i have some info that *might* be able to confirm someone
Ok because I TR you
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #102) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:31 am

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In post 1233, DeasVail wrote:Cakez is calling people "scumlord" something that you often do?

I need to ask because it's an irrational scumtell for me.

(Also I kind of just want to lynch Noraa, is that bad?)
Sometimes
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #103) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:32 am

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There is no way there is a Tracker, Hider and Detective all town
ABR and/or IV are scum
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Post Post #1239 (isolation #104) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:32 am

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In post 1237, Albert B. Rampage wrote:sorry I don't believe it, it took you too long to claim.

My real role is this: Lazy Odd-Night Tracker Even-Night Motion Detector
You wouldn't have anyway you're full of crap this game
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Post Post #1242 (isolation #105) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:33 am

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ABR is aggressive enough where he would claim this as town
There's just no evidence for me to see IV's claim here
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Post Post #1245 (isolation #106) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:34 am

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There's also a possibility there is a scum watcher and saw me visit midway and they fed the result to ABR and that's how IV knew it was safe to claim that he visited midway
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Post Post #1246 (isolation #107) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:34 am

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In post 1243, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I am 100% scum
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Post Post #1249 (isolation #108) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:34 am

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Vanilla tracker for town is just bullshit
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Post Post #1250 (isolation #109) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:35 am

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In post 1247, Noraa wrote:doc should be on ABR tonight.
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Post Post #1251 (isolation #110) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:35 am

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Noraa is soooooo scum
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Post Post #1253 (isolation #111) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:36 am

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^^^ soooooo full of shit
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Post Post #1257 (isolation #112) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:37 am

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ABR's entire play today has been constructed around protecting IV
This is what he does as scum
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #113) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:39 am

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And how does it not fit with mine?
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Post Post #1277 (isolation #114) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:47 am

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In post 1264, Noraa wrote:Cake so you visited midway and got that midway did a killing action?
Did not I obviously would have outed that
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Post Post #1278 (isolation #115) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:47 am

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In post 1273, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I know cakez very well and this isn't remotely close to how he reacts as town. He knows he's caught scum he's trolling all of you.
Since when do you know how I react as town or scum
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Post Post #1285 (isolation #116) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:51 am

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It's not 1v1 stop trying to make it that
IV dies today
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #117) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:51 am

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If me visiting midway was so suspicious why did you not start pushing me immediately? It's totally scum motivated
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Post Post #1290 (isolation #118) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:54 am

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How does me visiting midway make him town at all
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Post Post #1297 (isolation #119) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:00 am

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In post 1295, Albert B. Rampage wrote:it took sircakez way too long to claim as he was thinking of what to say and his role doesnt fit like mine and iv's do. besides that, hes making extremely obvious lies which i can quote back to you and makes it impossible hes not scum.
Because now my role is way less effective because scum are aware of it
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Post Post #1314 (isolation #120) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:10 am

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Why can't abr just be the scum version of his role
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Post Post #1321 (isolation #121) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:30 am

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In post 1319, petapan wrote:
In post 1314, SirCakez wrote:Why can't abr just be the scum version of his role
why would he out here? just to save iv?
this question could be asked regardless of alignment
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Post Post #1323 (isolation #122) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:33 am

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why?
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Post Post #1341 (isolation #123) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:38 pm

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In post 1334, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1209, SirCakez wrote:A tracker + my role makes me think there is absolutely no way IV's role exists
Okay this is bad imo
IV+ABR or IV+Cakez make some sense. ABR+Cakez lacks synergy to that degree. I don’t know why Cakez jumped to pushing IV and it’s kinda sus
why doesn't it make sense?
IV's day play is so bad I can't see it as town
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Post Post #1343 (isolation #124) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:39 pm

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In post 1326, innocentvillager wrote:ABR is obviously town
which strongly suggests I am town

Can cakez still be town given both of us are town?
there's no way all three of us are town too much town power
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Post Post #1348 (isolation #125) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:42 pm

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In post 1347, Albert B. Rampage wrote:it literally doesnt matter, ive got midway and IV in my corner and we're voting as a block, good luck getting consensus without us. tunneling cakez for the rest of the day.
nobody is listening to you IV literally just said he thinks I'm town
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Post Post #1349 (isolation #126) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:42 pm

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In post 1345, Datisi wrote:cakez, it's really not
why would this have three investigatives? what about protective or utility roles?
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #127) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:45 pm

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In post 1351, Datisi wrote:
In post 1349, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1345, Datisi wrote:cakez, it's really not
why would this have three investigatives? what about protective or utility roles?
1) iv isn't an investigative 2) why would it not have? again, have you seen the last one lmao
hider essentially just function as cop that dies if they get a red no?
the last one was fucky but it had role variety
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #128) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:47 pm

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In post 1074, innocentvillager wrote:specifically,

If I target scum and they die at night, I die regardless of what happens to me
If I target scum and they don’t die at night (even if they are shot but somehow stay alive) and I get shot, I don’t die
If I target town it’s as if I didn’t submit any action at all, I will die if and only if I get shot
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Post Post #1360 (isolation #129) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:48 pm

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ok I see this changes things
so IT IS POSSIBLE
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Post Post #1366 (isolation #130) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:52 pm

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In post 1362, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Fuck off sircakez is scum you clowns
how did this work last time for you dude
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #131) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:53 pm

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now i'm paranoid we're all town and scum Noraa is skating by here
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Post Post #1374 (isolation #132) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:01 pm

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its ok to be wrong
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #133) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:08 pm

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In post 1376, Datisi wrote:is albert usually like... that?
yes lol don't take anything he says personally
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #134) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:08 pm

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In post 1375, innocentvillager wrote:woah chill

Fine i will consider a vote there. Let’s just wait and see what happens
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Post Post #1385 (isolation #135) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:12 pm

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In post 1383, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1380, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1375, innocentvillager wrote:woah chill

Fine i will consider a vote there. Let’s just wait and see what happens
don't fall for his AtE
do you think ABR is town or scum?
still lean scum but I am paranoid
he would pull this as town
and now that there is a chance we are all town (because I actually understand your claim) my desire to yeet him is lessened
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Post Post #1387 (isolation #136) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:15 pm

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what crack is abr smoking
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Post Post #1394 (isolation #137) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:23 pm

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In post 1390, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1380, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1375, innocentvillager wrote:woah chill

Fine i will consider a vote there. Let’s just wait and see what happens
don't fall for his AtE
It just feels like this is directed at town!me who supposedly believes scum!ABR so now I’m going but you scumread both of us, but you’re actually scum who knows we’re both town so now I’m going?????

maybe I am wrong on you being town...
i can't parse this post
i'm saying regardless of ABR alignment don't fall for his AtE
if he's town here he's really wrong and has his head up his ass
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Post Post #1397 (isolation #138) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:27 pm

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In post 1395, VP Baltar wrote:Cakez, ABR's case on you isn't terrible. Why did you target midway when he wasn't a "scum Lord"?
i already said this but since my role looks for people who have killed I wanted to go after someone low-profile who scum would assign to a kill
and also due to the Roaming part I wanted to save my top SRs to check later when more time has gone by as I check for killing actions all nights, not just the night of the kill
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Post Post #1403 (isolation #139) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:34 pm

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i never crumb
my result didn't "clear" midway so ofc he's still in my pool. you seem to fundamentally not understand my role.
Albert B. Rampage wrote:remember your theory about scum wanting to eliminate any new voices. SIRCAKEZ IS THE SCUM WHO DIDNT FEEL THREATENED. HE KILLED A NEW VOICE BECAUSE HE THOUGHT WE WOULD LYNCH IV.
why would I bring this up if it was my plan
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #140) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:38 pm

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show me where midway had presence day 1
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #141) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:42 pm

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i was gone from the thread for 12 hours. when I came back, an early day 1 wagon was morphing into (and did) the eod elim. so ofc I pulled off it.
and you're pulling all of this out of your ass because you just can't ever say you're wrong
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #142) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:49 pm

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solely on dayplay I think ABR and you are horribly scummy
but the interaction of claims makes me think there's a decent chance both of you could be town
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Post Post #1424 (isolation #143) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:04 pm

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scum were probably loaded on the Shoshin wagon what are you talking about ABR
a quickelim on town doesn't just happen like that without scum
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Post Post #1439 (isolation #144) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:18 pm

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In post 1437, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1432, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Guys lets have a discussion about cakez
Could be scum. You make good points. I don't want to clog the thread up with that too much more rn so people can catch up. I don't think Cakez is off the table for a yeet today
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Post Post #1441 (isolation #145) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:22 pm

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because I felt like you did when you were town in the past
Peta pointed out another ISO
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Post Post #1445 (isolation #146) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:49 pm

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In post 1443, VP Baltar wrote:It's also not long after this Noraa post above that Cakez starts criticizing the Shoshin wagon (followed by being super dramatic after the hammer).
Was I wrong though?
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Post Post #1446 (isolation #147) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:50 pm

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In post 1442, midwaybear wrote:Ok, can you get more specific? I don't think peta's ISO really shows presence(except when I tried to tryhard in the first 2 days of Smoke). I'm typically more laid back.
You felt noncommittal on everything and didn't really commit to any pushes that I saw. I can pull specific posts if you want. It just doesn't read like what I saw in Smoke and Xenoblade.
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #148) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:51 pm

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In post 1445, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1443, VP Baltar wrote:It's also not long after this Noraa post above that Cakez starts criticizing the Shoshin wagon (followed by being super dramatic after the hammer).
Was I wrong though?
And I showed up at that moment because that was when I read the thread and caught up.
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Post Post #1448 (isolation #149) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:52 pm

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In post 1439, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1437, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1432, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Guys lets have a discussion about cakez
Could be scum. You make good points. I don't want to clog the thread up with that too much more rn so people can catch up. I don't think Cakez is off the table for a yeet today
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Post Post #1449 (isolation #150) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:53 pm

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In post 1429, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1426, Datisi wrote:i was *on* the wagon tho??
Ok fine so Gamma is not probscum then.
In post 1444, Albert B. Rampage wrote:cakez/noraa/gamma?
Nice progression
ABR's posting is incoherent because it's faked
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Post Post #1450 (isolation #151) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:53 pm

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I think I'm starting to believe in the world of IV town ABR scum
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Post Post #1451 (isolation #152) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:53 pm

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And of course Noraa scum
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Post Post #1452 (isolation #153) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:56 pm

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ABR is just sooooo desperate here you can tell
I'll go ahead and move my vote
VOTE: abr
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #154) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:24 pm

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because what Datisi said about how we all CAN be town but don't HAVE to be resonated and frankly I can't reconcile ABR's play here with him being town
IV, maybe. And his role fits ok with mine and doesn't make sense as scum.
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #155) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:34 pm

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New info came out obviously
You're misrepresenting soooooooo hard and it's not working
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #156) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:57 pm

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In post 1460, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1368, SirCakez wrote:now i'm paranoid we're all town and scum Noraa is skating by here
Maybe? Why can’t it be mwb or DV or something
Though I also dislike that Noraa’s activity has dropped hard. You might actually be onto something there.
It can be Noraa in addition to those players
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Post Post #1621 (isolation #157) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:08 am

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In post 1619, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1618, innocentvillager wrote:i really don't think I can replicate this kind of shameless quick stream of consciousness AtE as scum

it's too much cognitive effort for me

instead i would probably try to take a more logical approach or act annoyed, or idek, even just lurk away from the thread (as you saw in 2175, like datisi said we were in an okay spot even if i died so i was comfortable more or less just lurking it out and maybe getting lolhammered maybe not)
Cakez failed this test. Its in my case. He is very much relying on older lies and not changing his mind organically.
Haven't caught up yet but this is such bullshit and I can quote the progression in my own ISO
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Post Post #1626 (isolation #158) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:17 am

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In post 1625, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1450, SirCakez wrote:I think I'm starting to believe in the world of IV town ABR scum
in what world does IV Cakez town ABR scum even make sense? what's ABR's agenda here for fakeclaiming and saving me...?
This is what I'm stuck on
Maybe he wanted to pocket you and strongarm an elim on a PR? He was probably worried about my reads. ABR would do that as scum. And then tomorrow he can just laugh it off LIKE HE DID TODAY WITH SHOSHIN
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Post Post #1627 (isolation #159) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:17 am

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Like as SOON as I'm hammered I guarantee he'll start playing up the "oops well we needed to PL him anyways" crap he did yesterday
Because he's scum
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #160) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:18 am

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Also calling my push on ABR OMGUS is ridiculous when he was one of my top SRs yesterday
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Post Post #1630 (isolation #161) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:18 am

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In post 1628, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Im certain cakez strategy today was to mimic me yesterday and get another ML. He wanted to make it look like hes a PR with more info than everyone. Look at how certain and tunnely he is. When you know he visited midway and has nothing on IV, you read that section very differently. I had to claim and put an end to it.
Less tunnely than you scumlord
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Post Post #1631 (isolation #162) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:18 am

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At that point in the game I didn't need anything on IV his day play was atrocious
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Post Post #1633 (isolation #163) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:19 am

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Troll LOL abr c'mon you know me better than that
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #164) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:19 am

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Why are you so desperate to rush this?
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Post Post #1637 (isolation #165) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:24 am

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I assume he actually has that role but it's the scum version
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Post Post #1638 (isolation #166) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:24 am

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It DOES clash with my role
Two town investigatives combined with your role and probably more PRs doesn't make sense it's way too strong
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Post Post #1640 (isolation #167) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:25 am

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IV you actually think we could all be town here?
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Post Post #1641 (isolation #168) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:26 am

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In post 1639, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1636, petapan wrote:
In post 1539, Iconeum wrote:midway's tone when pushed on their low presence felt like a butthurt townie as i said
peta picked up on a vibe i agree with, when IV seemed to be rolefishing
i think VP has a pleasant ISO if you read it
that is the...quaintest reason anyone has given to townread me

how does having a "pleasant ISO" equate to someone being town?
You are obvtown.

In fact I used your obvtowniness in order to crumb that midway was visited last night and i believed that he was visited by scum, making midway potentially town.
Why did you open today completely ignoring me if visiting midway was so scummy
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Post Post #1649 (isolation #169) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:32 am

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In post 1645, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1641, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1639, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1636, petapan wrote:
In post 1539, Iconeum wrote:midway's tone when pushed on their low presence felt like a butthurt townie as i said
peta picked up on a vibe i agree with, when IV seemed to be rolefishing
i think VP has a pleasant ISO if you read it
that is the...quaintest reason anyone has given to townread me

how does having a "pleasant ISO" equate to someone being town?
You are obvtown.

In fact I used your obvtowniness in order to crumb that midway was visited last night and i believed that he was visited by scum, making midway potentially town.
Why did you open today completely ignoring me if visiting midway was so scummy
To trap you, brother
That's not your playstyle at all
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In post 1637, SirCakez wrote:I assume he actually has that role but it's the scum version
yeah but i don't know why you would want to claim that because i'd think there's a decent chance of getting cc'd on either tracker or motion detector, and also just claiming in general feels dumb
In post 1640, SirCakez wrote:IV you actually think we could all be town here?
i don't see why it's impossible at all? also, if there are that many town PRs, it's possible some of them are like, anti-synergizing/red herrings and/or scum has lots of power?
From role synergy doesn't make sense for there to be scum and town versions of similar role esp if you look at old Gypx setups
Nothing claimed so far has neg utility though...and nobody claimed neg utility earlier
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Post Post #1651 (isolation #170) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:34 am

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Like when you vigged me because I was pushing you?
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Post Post #1654 (isolation #171) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:39 am

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In post 1652, innocentvillager wrote:cakez, while we're here i wanted to address an old point (maybe no longer relevant) you tried to get across but i still have a rebuttal to

when you brought up the whole "scum being comfortable with gamestate and not wanting outsider perspectives" thing, I responded by saying that points to me/midway/Noraa not being comprised of 2+ scum since we were the main suspects, probably in that order. Then, you said "that was yesterday, not anymore".

but I don't really understand what could've possibly changed so much? in your scum!innocentvillager world where my partners have deepwolfed and are comfortable with me eating the rope today, it doesn't make sense for my partner ABR to stick his neck out for scum!IV when a) I was already anticipated to be wagoned, so we've prepped the "fakeclaim" b) we're analyzing under the assumption he's trying to deepwolf and not take cc/other big risks with him and his other deepwolf
I think Noraa and ABR could have been behind that kill (not sure about midway). Alisae is a strong personality (like Noraa and ABR) and the less of those the easier it is to strongarm the game like ABR is trying right now.
This is why I don't think ABR and you are scum together anymore
Doesn't add up. That post was from before all the claims came out.
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Post Post #1655 (isolation #172) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:39 am

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At that point Noraa and ABR were suspected but still could easily work out of it.
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Post Post #1657 (isolation #173) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:03 am

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I don't think people actually think that I'm saying that's what ABR is gonna say when there's a hammer so he can try to offload the responsibility for a town elim
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Post Post #1667 (isolation #174) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:09 am

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In post 1658, innocentvillager wrote:if people won't actually think it's a PL then why would scum!ABR use that as a dumb excuse afterwards that obviously no one is going to buy? you've done nothing remotely PL worthy compared to Shoshin, clearly ABR has every intention of taking full responsibility for this one
Nobody thought Shoshin was a PL either, until after hammer suddenly people were calling it one
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Post Post #1682 (isolation #175) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:41 am

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In post 1680, Noraa wrote:Cake's push on ABR is garbage ...
Why? His push on me is unbelievably bad and he was one of the leaders in the Shoshin wagon
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Post Post #1695 (isolation #176) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:21 am

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In post 1683, Noraa wrote:
In post 1682, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1680, Noraa wrote:Cake's push on ABR is garbage ...
Why? His push on me is unbelievably bad and he was one of the leaders in the Shoshin wagon
His push on you is bad is not a way to justify ur terrible push?
+ his push on you is better :/
but I was already SRing him from the bad Shoshin play...
not sure why I'm arguing with you when you're scum anyways
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Post Post #1696 (isolation #177) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:22 am

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In post 1689, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1687, Datisi wrote:i remember seeing scum!koba put a veto on you in chosen mafia

anyway you still haven't answered my question of what are your reads?
I read the scum PT, and koba vetoed me because they would feel bad pushing me or something. Idk, but I'm not sure if that was because they think I could obv town and stuff, but I've mostly dropped that play in games.

I haven't really been thinking of whole game reads, and I'm trying to think about the current claims. Both ABR and Cakez are very scummy while IV is sorta just floating around. I'm not sure what to make of that. Outside of these claims I'm townreading Noraa and petapan.
this is what I mean by midway's lack of presence
yeah he makes posts but it's just total fluff
look at his analysis of the tri-claim
"i'm not sure what to make of that"
completely fencesitting
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Post Post #1697 (isolation #178) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:22 am

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i'm going back through the overnight posting now as I never actually read it
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #179) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:28 am

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In post 1480, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Noraa
Jsyk if this flips scum it’s the second time scum has misrepresented my meta in a super-bad way that got them caught.
You cannot hope to defeat me in a meta-reading challenge. I am simply the best there is. (Not really)
probtown Gamma here
reads just like his Xenoblade 2 BM rage
In post 1486, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1452, SirCakez wrote:ABR is just sooooo desperate here you can tell
I'll go ahead and move my vote
VOTE: abr
Desperate about what, exactly?
to get a PR ML off and not let me flip it back on him
In post 1504, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1116, SirCakez wrote:ABR is flailing he knows his buddy is going down and then Noraa and him will follow
why the omgus?
it's not omgus
I was SRing ABR since the end of day 1
In post 1516, Iconeum wrote:ok

so what's the claims here?

ABR: monstrosity odd night tracker thing even night motion detector?
SirC: detective? what does this role do exactly?
IV: disloyal hider

did i miss any claims?
roaming detective
each night I can check someone to see if they have performed any killing actions the whole game
but I can't check the same person twice
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ftr I have been off of IV since yesterday
In post 1592, innocentvillager wrote:ABR seriously considering sheeping you on cakez for survival purposes

no more self voting/giving up for me
also this is townie
scum would just do this and not talk about it
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Post Post #1704 (isolation #180) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:32 am

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you can say words but that doesn't make them true
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Post Post #1705 (isolation #181) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:33 am

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In post 1701, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1696, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1689, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1687, Datisi wrote:i remember seeing scum!koba put a veto on you in chosen mafia

anyway you still haven't answered my question of what are your reads?
I read the scum PT, and koba vetoed me because they would feel bad pushing me or something. Idk, but I'm not sure if that was because they think I could obv town and stuff, but I've mostly dropped that play in games.

I haven't really been thinking of whole game reads, and I'm trying to think about the current claims. Both ABR and Cakez are very scummy while IV is sorta just floating around. I'm not sure what to make of that. Outside of these claims I'm townreading Noraa and petapan.
this is what I mean by midway's lack of presence
yeah he makes posts but it's just total fluff
look at his analysis of the tri-claim
"i'm not sure what to make of that"
completely fencesitting
this is NAI to town!indicative for me, are you sure it's scum!indicative for midway?
first say why its NAI to town!indicative for you cuz I don't see it at all
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Post Post #1710 (isolation #182) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:36 am

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In post 1707, innocentvillager wrote:it is kind of hard for me to have a stance on something, especially when i start to doubt myself

i am the fenciest of fencesitters

most of my reads just end up being like "lean town"

there's no argument that midway have been fencesitting since pg1 and even complained that other people have been too quick to make reads, the question is just "is it scummy" which I am actually not as convinced of as I was before.
I think in this gamestate it is
People are looking at the people taking sides
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Post Post #1714 (isolation #183) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:38 am

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ABR can feel the PR miselim slipping through his fingers is the answer
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Post Post #1715 (isolation #184) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:39 am

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In post 1712, Noraa wrote:
In post 1708, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Noraa arguing with cakez but no vote

Cakez arguing back because he expects to go down today and is trying to distance.

Kabuke theater.
why should I vote?

last I voted with consensus it was fucking wrong. Cake is a scumbutt but is there any need to be rushing the fuck out of every day?
Plus he claimed pr which makes me wary of limming there.
And this is just because Noraa doesn't want to be associated with two miselims in a row
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Post Post #1724 (isolation #185) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:46 am

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Does ABR's rush to hit elim here not concern anyone else?
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Post Post #1725 (isolation #186) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:46 am

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In post 1722, petapan wrote:
In post 1718, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1684, petapan wrote:i didn't scumread cakez off day 1, agreed with what he was saying about iv to start the day, but his posting today is increasingly starting to look like his scum flail
your wording makes it seem meta based? any meta evidence that he kind of flails like this as scum
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

literally just ended
I take offense I wasn't flailing there
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Post Post #1731 (isolation #187) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:03 am

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You get credit for leading a rushed miselim on town!
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Post Post #1744 (isolation #188) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:59 am

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In post 1724, SirCakez wrote:Does ABR's rush to hit elim here not concern anyone else?
In post 1724, SirCakez wrote:Does ABR's rush to hit elim here not concern anyone else?
In post 1724, SirCakez wrote:Does ABR's rush to hit elim here not concern anyone else?
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Post Post #1749 (isolation #189) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:04 am

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shush scumoraaaaaaa
i only want to see puppy gifs from you from now on
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Post Post #1751 (isolation #190) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:05 am

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i hate puppies
they pee everywhere
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Post Post #1753 (isolation #191) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:08 am

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never had one so I can't judge
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Post Post #1757 (isolation #192) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:19 am

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lmao
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Post Post #1800 (isolation #193) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:52 am

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In post 1782, innocentvillager wrote:yeah Cakez's gradual disappearance and reduced urgency/content per post etc. as he gets run up does kind of feel like scum giving up
I don't have the energy to fight YET ANOTHER FUCKING ELIM ON MYSELF
I GET ELIMMED IN EVERY GAME I PLAY AND IM SO DONE

so yes I'm giving up here
It seems like everyone is indifferent anyways and VP will hammer me
DV's hop on me looks bad so if the tri-claim is all town he'd probably where I'd go next, along with Noraa and midway
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Post Post #1801 (isolation #194) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:53 am

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I cannot express how frustrated I am that I rolled a PR I was excited to play here and am being miselimmed
I feel no matter what the fuck I do I get scum read for it

"He's too present"
"He's not present enough"
"He's arguing too much"
"He's flailing"
"His claim doesn't fit"

Just fuck off!
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Post Post #1802 (isolation #195) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:54 am

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Like 80% of the games I've played since I've returned I have been elimmed
I just don't have the energy to defend myself anymore
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Post Post #1803 (isolation #196) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:55 am

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In post 1778, DeasVail wrote:I would perhaps slightly prefer a noraa vote here but I can get behind the cakez wagon.

I must admit I don't think that it's impossible for cakez/iv/abr to all be town and if cakez is town I would likely not support a view that it incriminates abr or iv.

Honestly, Cakez just had me at "scumcake" :P
Look at this garbage
This is what I'm working with this game
And ABR's constant fucking spam saying "elim cakes" over and over again
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Post Post #1804 (isolation #197) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:56 am

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In post 1782, innocentvillager wrote:yeah Cakez's gradual disappearance and reduced urgency/content per post etc. as he gets run up does kind of feel like scum giving up
In post 1783, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1782, innocentvillager wrote:yeah Cakez's gradual disappearance and reduced urgency/content per post etc. as he gets run up does kind of feel like scum giving up
agree, it makes the preceding content seem all the more fake
When I am here, my content looks faked
When I am not here, my content seems more fake
What the fuck
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Post Post #1820 (isolation #198) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:32 pm

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What lies abr? What lies?
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Post Post #1866 (isolation #199) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:18 pm

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In post 1823, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1820, SirCakez wrote:What lies abr? What lies?
how does knowing your role only help scum?

how does it make sense im a scum tracker unless you think im throwing the game for scum?

why did you say that scum were willing to trade 2 scum for 1 town PR (you)?

why did you not drop any hints about your visit to midway on day 2?

And I know you gave an answer to this, but your use of your ability on midway and not noraa or IV n1 is not believable to me.
-they can now plan around having people kill who are less likely to visit me
-because two town investigatives of our type doesn't make sense
-i didn't say that. I said potentially you were trying to strongarm an elim on me to save a scum buddy. I later rethought this anyway.
-why would I? I got nothing from it
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