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Gamma Emerald · Post Post #150 (isolation #0) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:47 pm

egot (the t is silent)

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #157 (isolation #1) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:52 pm

quick sus on ABR for his approach rn
I actually think this playerlist is pretty dignified

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #189 (isolation #2) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:25 pm

In post 166, Noraa wrote:
In post 157, Gamma Emerald wrote:quick sus on ABR for his approach rn
I actually think this playerlist is pretty dignified
I don't know if its a dignified list but I do know that I <3 half this plist

I <3 the entire plist

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #192 (isolation #3) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:31 pm

In post 6, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: noraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

town

In post 9, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 3, Gypyx wrote:Iconeum has 36 hours to confirm before being replaced
oof thanksgiving going into black friday going into dragon's weekend v/la is he gonna make it?

only time will tell

scum?

In post 13, midwaybear wrote:I was told to go post
VOTE: ABR

scum

In post 12, Noraa wrote:
In post 6, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: noraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

In post 7, Albert B. Rampage wrote:VOTE: Noraa

She's not worth keeping around if I don't roll scum with her so byeee
I love u guys too

VOTE: vp
told ya I'm coming for u. A Noraa racecar driving at 200 mph

town

In post 19, petapan wrote:VOTE: sircakez

listen we're all going to do this eventually so let's just save ourselves the trouble

town, unless cakez is scum

In post 23, unwnd wrote:VOTE: Shoshin

town?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #219 (isolation #4) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:58 pm

In post 201, Noraa wrote:what. What. WHAT. When the fuck did gamma ever give reads like this as town?

Trying to imitate someone else's style for funsies

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #223 (isolation #5) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:02 pm

I'd like to see who might catch on before I spell it out

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #228 (isolation #6) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:09 pm

In post 28, DeasVail wrote:Hello, I love you all, gonna be busy today but soon I will be here and clear and sincere!

town?

In post 35, unwnd wrote:I think Noraa is townie and seems relaxed

If this is a wrong assumption say it now

town

In post 37, midwaybear wrote:I don’t think I have seen anything alignment indicative from her. Is your read just based on her tone?

town

In post 38, Datisi wrote:i was about to ask that but midway beat me to it so instead, the first townlean of the game goes to midway!!

town

In post 47, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Sircakez you better not scumread me this game.

In post 48, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Anytime you SR me, remember that you are wrong lol

scum?

In post 49, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: abr
I can't be convinced to change this

town

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #233 (isolation #7) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:17 pm

In post 51, Noraa wrote:
In post 47, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Sircakez you better not scumread me this game.

Noraa disliked this post

town

In post 60, midwaybear wrote:I still don't get why unwnd townreads Noraa.

scum

In post 63, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
FOS: Cakez

I said don't SR me. Never mentioned a TR.

scum

In post 64, Datisi wrote:
In post 61, midwaybear wrote:
In post 38, Datisi wrote:i was about to ask that but midway beat me to it so instead, the first townlean of the game goes to midway!!
Would scum!Datisi say this? I don't think it serves him any value as scum here.
my brain is telling me this is opportunistic scum trying to pocket me
my heart is telling me no, midway is town

i will listen to my heart for now

town

In post 67, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 66, Datisi wrote:
In post 62, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 61, midwaybear wrote:
In post 38, Datisi wrote:i was about to ask that but midway beat me to it so instead, the first townlean of the game goes to midway!!
Would scum!Datisi say this? I don't think it serves him any value as scum here.
Seems like a townie thing to say, but shrug
hello sir do you have an opinion you would like to say
You mean on your alignment? No. I don't have any real reads yet

town

In post 74, petapan wrote:
In post 61, midwaybear wrote:
In post 38, Datisi wrote:i was about to ask that but midway beat me to it so instead, the first townlean of the game goes to midway!!
Would scum!Datisi say this? I don't think it serves him any value as scum here.
i don't think it's a hard thing to say as either alignment but datisi probtown anyway

town?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #235 (isolation #8) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:19 pm

okay no one cares to guess so I'll spit it out, I'm imitating mastina's methods of calling posts town or scum, I felt like it was the best way to pitch myself into the game

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #236 (isolation #9) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:22 pm

I'm still gonna respond to stuff one page at a time but I feel like my thoughts are reaching a point where it's better to express them than to just spit out blank reads

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #237 (isolation #10) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:31 pm

(tbh I might just stick to the format in most games where I come in at least a few pages after the game starts)

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #238 (isolation #11) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:33 pm

In post 77, unwnd wrote:
In post 64, Datisi wrote:
In post 61, midwaybear wrote:
In post 38, Datisi wrote:i was about to ask that but midway beat me to it so instead, the first townlean of the game goes to midway!!
Would scum!Datisi say this? I don't think it serves him any value as scum here.
my brain is telling me this is opportunistic scum trying to pocket me
my heart is telling me no, midway is town

i will listen to my heart for now
I like your brain more here, but I empathize with your heart

I agree with the final idea of the brain but don't get how datisi thinks pocketing can be the intent? How would mwb even know to pocket there?

In post 78, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 65, SirCakez wrote:They basically mean the same thing...
I didn't do anything to earn a SR. But you twisted that around for your own scummy purposes.

I mean, you kinda did by pre-emptively discrediting his SR. Plus, last time you two played together you pretty solidly pocketed him so this looks like a meta counterplay.

In post 83, midwaybear wrote:
In post 80, petapan wrote:tbh i don't think midwaybear has towntold in his first 5 posts, a bad sign for him
How do you even read me

I think it's kinda apprent the lean is towards an SR and I don't like that mwb had to ask.

In post 91, Noraa wrote:
In post 88, Datisi wrote:what does the word spiky mean in this context, google is not being kind right now
its like what you would describe a big porcupine as. I feel like ur being overly paranoid for page 4.

In post 93, Datisi wrote:i know what the word spiky means when describing an animal i just don't know what it means ~metaphorically~

also i will need some elaboration on that claim because how am i being paranoid and what do you even expect me to be doing that i am not doing and why and whatever else i'm supposed to ask you here idk

I both do and don't see how datisi is paranoid rn. like, yes datisi is paranoid for thinking mwb was pocketing him when I think it's a stretch to suspect that, but datisi also ended up TRing mwb. But I think overall that thought process from datisi is towny.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #239 (isolation #12) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:40 pm

In post 101, Datisi wrote:
In post 95, VP Baltar wrote:@noraa - I think datisi is just tired after running a bunch of marathon games and is probably just nudging me to do something more.
why are you pre-emptively defending me

do you see it as scummy or towny? why?

In post 106, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 101, Datisi wrote:
In post 95, VP Baltar wrote:@noraa - I think datisi is just tired after running a bunch of marathon games and is probably just nudging me to do something more.
why are you pre-emptively defending me
Because you're acting hyper aggressive over nothing to generate interaction probably.

I think this is town for being on the money

In post 114, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 94, Noraa wrote:cuz poor cake is kinda LHF-y from what I know. I've played one game with ABR and got fooled to hell and back by scum!him.
LHF = ?

I doubt you haven't seen the term before >:{

In post 123, Datisi wrote:i feel like there's something very wrong with the baltar/noraa interactions here but it's probably me being annoyed at both of them for different reasons

hot take: iv might actually be scum this game.

yeah IV has pinged me a small bit so far as well

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #240 (isolation #13) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:02 pm

In post 129, Noraa wrote:gun to head solve is Peta/Dat/ABR?
ignore this post. its for post game where I get to see how many scum I got on page 6

I'd probably say something like ABR/IV/shoshin
would've said ABR/mwb/{IV, Shoshin} but if I'm taking this seriously I don't think mwb and ABR are partners for stuff further down the page

In post 139, petapan wrote:VOTE: unwnd

why?

In post 143, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 125, SirCakez wrote:
In post 78, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 65, SirCakez wrote:They basically mean the same thing...
I didn't do anything to earn a SR. But you twisted that around for your own scummy purposes.
Dude get out of here with this
Everybody knows what you meant and you're playing word salad
Bruh you always SR me when I'm town.

That's it! I'm going for you.

VOTE: Cakez

This comes across as scum who knows cakez is town but has to appear to SR cakez.

In post 146, midwaybear wrote:ABR seems a little less aggressive than I was expecting. I get that he is going hard against Cakez, but the wording in his posts doesn't really indicate belief.

I don't think mwb calls out ABR so quickly for about the same thing I saw if partners with ABR.

VOTE: Albert B Rampage

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #241 (isolation #14) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:11 pm

In post 152, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 146, midwaybear wrote:ABR seems a little less aggressive than I was expecting. I get that he is going hard against Cakez, but the wording in his posts doesn't really indicate belief.
this player list is very ... lower than scary skill level. Fun, nice, chill... I am really enjoying myself

this doesn't feel like a town thought process. Why would the playerlist's skill level be scary to you as town? Why would you be evaluating that as town?

In post 173, Shoshin wrote:ABR's obvious scum when scum, not too worried about him. I'm just hoping DV's town so we can steamroll the scum.

In post 174, Shoshin wrote:Nora's already obvious town, so that's nice.

Okay I'd been feeling sus on shoshin for being OMGUSy but this very much isn't and I actually like these posts a bit
btw I kinda agree about ABR being obvscum on some level, I did start to SR him in betrayal D2 but then I just let the Cakez/ABR pair roll me for a couple days

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #243 (isolation #15) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:17 pm

I find ABR scummy on his own

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #245 (isolation #16) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:31 pm

In post 180, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I feel like Noraa is negative utility for town. She is god at mafia and probably trash as town. We should eliminate her just because of that.

bad attitude my dude. Noraa is still pretty fresh. There was a game where she abused wikitells, while not even getting the definitions right. But rather than PL that I tried to totur her about how her concepts of the terms she was using were wrong. By instantly attacking bad players at the first sight of them being bad, you give them no chance to actually learn how to play better. Only once someone shows consistent incompetence or burden status should "PL on sight" be a thing for them.

In post 184, Noraa wrote:plus regardless of all of that, I'm still a newbie bc of my start date. Card says I'm a mafia baby in experience.

Yeah I started playing forum mafia in july 2016 and didn't really consider myself decently experienced until like a year later, when I'd read what a homesite friend had written about me in a recently att finished game.

In post 186, Albert B. Rampage wrote:cabd is a weak man staring at the end of his shelf life

In post 191, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Mastin once made the argument that winning mafia isn't about destroying your opponent with facts and logic, it's about being charismatic and funny.

It would make sense then to just lynch the most charismatic and funny players, or, shall we say, the most dangerous players who can fool the town the longest. You know, as insurance.

A bit ironic you mention mastin after I used the catch-up style of her second regeneration, mastina

In post 195, unwnd wrote:VOTE: Gamma emerald

why?

In post 196, Shoshin wrote:Voting me isn't town, Gamma.

why is it scum though, outside of meta experience?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #246 (isolation #17) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:33 pm

In post 244, VP Baltar wrote:If you had to sum it up in a couple reasons, those would be?

his push on cakez looks forced and like he knows cakez is town, and his read that the playerlist is "not scary skill-wise" seems much more like a scum observation than a town one, especially with how he's using that take

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #248 (isolation #18) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:38 pm

In post 211, Shoshin wrote:Gamma's scummy for supporting votes on me

that wasn't what I was doing per se. I moreso liked his gumption in voting you. I didn't explicitly support the vote, but I like that he made that specific move out of the ones he could have made.

In post 212, unwnd wrote:
In post 207, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 203, unwnd wrote:I almost hesitated because I find myself voting him early but this time it's merited
Tell me more. I'm not an expert at reading gamma. That post didn't feel scummy to me, but maybe it is a meta thing?
It's just very out of character for him. I don't feel his normal behavior emits that type of force where he can make posts just calling something town/scum

What do you think about it now?

In post 221, Shoshin wrote:
In post 217, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I highly doubt that you can read Noraa, her friendliness is NAI, she seems like she slip by right under your nose if you were an informed cop, and your chainsaw defense of your fake townread screams scum to me.
This feels like too much justification for voting me, but maybe you believe it. Not sure.

I agree it feels over-justified.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #250 (isolation #19) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:41 pm

In post 247, Noraa wrote:
In post 245, Gamma Emerald wrote:totur
can we mention how I thought this said torture for a sec and I was like HUH

nice word boner, me

I always have issues with words that have a u and o. words like custom, for example.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #254 (isolation #20) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:44 pm

In post 230, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Shosha is first serious vote

yeah so this backs up the vibe I got about the cakez push/vote

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #256 (isolation #21) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:47 pm

In post 253, unwnd wrote:I think that your mimicry doesn't make a whole lot of sense if you don't understand what makes it effective, which is my initial complaint. If you kept doing it after explaining it doesn't take away from the initial feeling

I didn't do it for anything involving "what makes mastina's version effective", I just felt like doing the thing where I quote a post and call it town or scum would help me get started in the game, and I think I was right. The point of my exercise here was to get through the least interesting part of RVS when reading back efficiently.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #257 (isolation #22) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:48 pm

In post 251, Noraa wrote:costom

In post 252, Noraa wrote:?

wut

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #260 (isolation #23) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:50 pm

I think he's town for voting you over partaking in the active talk at the time.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #265 (isolation #24) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:53 pm

In post 261, unwnd wrote:
In post 256, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 253, unwnd wrote:I think that your mimicry doesn't make a whole lot of sense if you don't understand what makes it effective, which is my initial complaint. If you kept doing it after explaining it doesn't take away from the initial feeling
I didn't do it for anything involving "what makes mastina's version effective", I just felt like doing the thing where I quote a post and call it town or scum would help me get started in the game, and I think I was right. The point of my exercise here was to get through the least interesting part of RVS when reading back efficiently.
Why not do it in your head? Or in a separate notepad

because mastina does it in thread + it gives other people stuff to respond to from me quickly + I don't tend to do well at taking thread notes outside the thread, like the only time I really do it is when I'm faking it as scum I feel

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #267 (isolation #25) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:56 pm

In post 264, unwnd wrote:I don't know if you honestly believe that those players were town/scum from one post that you read from catchup

obviously I'm not intending on reading people off one post
the idea is the different things I note add up to my overall read

you're honestly being over-critical at this point, it should be obvious I'm not just reading people off one post here

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #270 (isolation #26) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:58 pm

like I feel you're asking some seriously basic-ass questions that can be answered for yourself by just thinking for a second

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #271 (isolation #27) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:58 pm

In post 269, unwnd wrote:Gamma if you say you posted in the way you did to invite attention and then you get upset when you're getting it, IDK what to tell you

well you're being dense

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #278 (isolation #28) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:03 pm

In post 273, unwnd wrote:
In post 267, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 264, unwnd wrote:I don't know if you honestly believe that those players were town/scum from one post that you read from catchup
obviously
I'm not intending on reading people off one post

the idea is the different things I note add up to my overall read

you're honestly being over-critical at this point, it should be obvious I'm not just reading people off one post here
Yet it seems like based on your posting you do think ABR is scum lol

yes and how many times in my first few catchups did I call him scum? Definitely more than once. Stop playing dumb, because that has to be the only way you legitimately think this.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #289 (isolation #29) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:40 pm

In post 282, unwnd wrote:I just feel like you're not understanding why I don't like your posts. My personal take on posting in mafia games is that once you've put it out there, it's free to criticize. You yourself admitted that your style of taking on mastina was for
attention and for others to read your posts/i]. Correct me if I'm wrong? You have me responding to you, this should be good in your eyes. Instead you tell me I'm being dense for the consideration. The thing is about established player meta is that I can't just start to act like Noraaa and think it will work the same. I think that you chose to behave this way because you want to be townread like mastina would for doing what you did and nothing else

That theory is preposterous? I have a

similar

catchup style to mastina most of the time, but I actually quite prefer my own style, mostly because it doesn't involve completely ignoring current events like she does? I only did the "quote posts and post a town/scum read on the post" thing because I felt like it offered a number of benefits that seems to for the most part have paid out like I'd planned. I got read I actually feel good about from RVS, the only one I don't think was decent being my mwb scumread. The idea of posting it here is so people can engage me ASAP about my reads, and see the gears turning, but it seems with you that was a massive misunderestimation, since while you did engage with me you clearly aren't perceiving the inner workings if you think that way about my ABR read.
And mastina doesn't always get townread for that style, are you joking me? That's part of why I revel in

not

being entirely similar to her, because I feel like I am different from her in exactly the ways that would make me less likely to set people off against me for style reasons.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #290 (isolation #30) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:41 pm

In post 284, Noraa wrote:
In post 283, midwaybear wrote:
In post 221, Shoshin wrote:
In post 217, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I highly doubt that you can read Noraa, her friendliness is NAI, she seems like she slip by right under your nose if you were an informed cop, and your chainsaw defense of your fake townread screams scum to me.
This feels like too much justification for voting me, but maybe you believe it. Not sure.
I like the way Shoshin is handling ABR here, but I don't know if I can townread it.
this is like ten pounds of fence sitting in one sentence. impressive.

could you not also describe shoshin as fencesitting in the quoted post, tbqh?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #293 (isolation #31) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:43 pm

I took a thing mastina does and plugged it into my style
it's not a style change, it's just trying a thing in a specific context and seeing how it works out

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #296 (isolation #32) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:05 am

In post 294, Datisi wrote:i don't get this question? like, scum!midway sees towntisi townreading him, and tries to further pocket by expressing a townread on me - like wdym "how would he know to pocket there" when i expressed a townlean on him a few posts ago?

You essentially TRed mwb for asking the same question you did, but you also had a paranoia there about being pocketed, but how would mwb know you’d ask that question?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #434 (isolation #33) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:39 pm

In post 297, Datisi wrote:
In post 296, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 294, Datisi wrote:i don't get this question? like, scum!midway sees towntisi townreading him, and tries to further pocket by expressing a townread on me - like wdym "how would he know to pocket there" when i expressed a townlean on him a few posts ago?
You essentially TRed mwb for asking the same question you did, but you also had a paranoia there about being pocketed, but how would mwb know you’d ask that question?
> midway makes post 37
> in post 38, i express a townlean on midway because of 37
> in post 61, midway in return townleans me for 38
> in post 64, i wonder if 61 was a pocket attempt

what seems to be the issue here? like sure, scum!him didn't make 37
with the intent
of shoving me into his pocket, but i was proposing a world where scum!midway sees that i'm townleaning him because of it and runs with it. (and not even proposing, i'm not even scumreading midway right now, you know what i mean)

Idk atp

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #435 (isolation #34) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:44 pm

In post 343, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: shoshin

Why is shoshin scum again?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #437 (isolation #35) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:47 pm

In post 374, Noraa wrote:
In post 373, Shoshin wrote:Nora, you know that my reads are very good as town. I'm the sort of player you BoP before lynching. Why don't you care if I'm lynched?
I do know this. I highly doubt VP or Peta have bad reads tho.

Why?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #438 (isolation #36) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:47 pm

In post 436, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 435, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 343, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: shoshin
Why is shoshin scum again?
fake reads

How?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #440 (isolation #37) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:52 pm

We still need to hear from Iconeum, after that I wouldn’t mind ending the day. And as for the point at hand, Idont think those are “fake reads”, but something definitely looks fake there.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #464 (isolation #38) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:29 pm

In post 448, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Final reads list thanks

Dude Shoshin’s like L-4
Shut it rn.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #466 (isolation #39) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:33 pm

Because you seemed defensive as soon as you came in.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #472 (isolation #40) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:36 pm

Ask ABR that question, Noraa.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #479 (isolation #41) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:39 pm

In post 196, Shoshin wrote:Voting me isn't town, Gamma.

discrediting people who vote you by implying they’re scum

In post 221, Shoshin wrote:
In post 217, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I highly doubt that you can read Noraa, her friendliness is NAI, she seems like she slip by right under your nose if you were an informed cop, and your chainsaw defense of your fake townread screams scum to me.
This feels like too much justification for voting me, but maybe you believe it. Not sure.

Attacking ABR’s vote on you by calling it over justified but also not commuting to pushing him, while also kinda shading him (“but maybe you believe it, not sure” reads as quite condescending imo).

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #497 (isolation #42) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:52 pm

In post 482, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Albert B. Rampage
VP Baltar
SirCakez
Datisi
Innocentvillager

hrm okay

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #501 (isolation #43) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:53 pm

Lmao @ “5 best players in the game” though

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #503 (isolation #44) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:57 pm

My Noraa-Cakez-unwnd townblock still exists fyi

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #505 (isolation #45) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:59 pm

Strong town feels from each slot
I could be wrong but I don’t think so rn. I trust the process.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #512 (isolation #46) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:28 pm

@shoshin You're around an uneasy null rn
your current posting is decent tho

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #528 (isolation #47) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:55 pm

I don't think I wanna lim shoshin rn

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #534 (isolation #48) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:58 pm

In post 529, DeasVail wrote:I'm not really feeling Shoshin as mafia right now.

I think it's incredibly low-value for Shoshin to do a "DV will save me!" plea as scum because I as annoyed town could easily say "uh I played with Shoshin once what's she talking about?"

Somewhat ironically my discomfort with the Shoshin wagon and my (probable) townread on Shoshin has nothing to do with Shoshin's meta. I just don't think she is mafia.

I endorse this product

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #535 (isolation #49) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:59 pm

I think I'm good adding DV and shoshin to the D1 townblock

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #542 (isolation #50) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:04 pm

I specifically stated D1 townblock because it's essentially my anti-lim pool for D1

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #546 (isolation #51) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:15 pm

Cakez can you stop voting Shoshin pls
don't you SR ABR, actually? Why are you letting him lead you?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #552 (isolation #52) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:25 pm

In post 549, unwnd wrote:Concerned about VP more than ABR.

Why?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #555 (isolation #53) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:30 pm

In post 553, unwnd wrote:Because ABR leads with conviction and VP only dabbles in it, and I think that form of dabbling is indecision that doesn't fit the way he's talked to people. It's like I said before when it came to Dat, to me it read like he was pushing his experience onto him and telling him he was wrong because of it.

I can comprehend this
I guess I'll extend a sus onto VP, I do recall him being sorta a leader in the past

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #568 (isolation #54) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:55 pm

In post 559, Albert B. Rampage wrote:GIVE ME ONE MORE VOTE SWEET JESUS ONE MORE VOTE ONE MORE FOR A CLAIM!!!!

Why the fuck is the claim so important to you?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #700 (isolation #55) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:32 am

In post 569, Datisi wrote:so, iv is my strongest scumread currently. unfortunately, he has the bad case of lurk, my vote isn't making him play, and i don't think my persuasion skills are good enough to convince the town to start voting him on the basis of ~nothing~. so my vote on him is wasting away.

Is your read literally just based on him lurking?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #703 (isolation #56) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:36 am

Darius is town for postings on page 23

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #704 (isolation #57) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:36 am

Datisi *
Wtf, autocorrect >:(

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #705 (isolation #58) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:38 am

In post 568, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 559, Albert B. Rampage wrote:GIVE ME ONE MORE VOTE SWEET JESUS ONE MORE VOTE ONE MORE FOR A CLAIM!!!!
Why the fuck is the claim so important to you?

@ABR

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #707 (isolation #59) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:39 am

In post 585, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 503, Gamma Emerald wrote:My Noraa-Cakez-unwnd townblock still exists fyi
I don't even disagree with these reads, but for some reason I HATE this post.

It feels reachy and overeager.

Didn’t you yourself try to form a townblock in MafiaSunny?
Kinda hypocritical don’t you think?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #709 (isolation #60) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:40 am

In post 588, Noraa wrote:that I will drop the moment you slip up if ur scum

o_rly

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #710 (isolation #61) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:41 am

Fair enough @ABR
I was concerned about rolefishing FYI

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #718 (isolation #62) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:44 am

In post 608, Datisi wrote:that is why this kinda behaviour makes me think that if iv is scum, shoshin isn't, because in that world, the game is going smoothly without his presence. he doesn't *need* to actually post anything meaningful. him voting shoshin definitely won't discourage albert from pushing her through, but it's not a vote that gives towncred if she flips red?

Could you re-explain this?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #719 (isolation #63) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:49 am

In post 620, innocentvillager wrote:Datisi I like your positioning on me tbh

I like that you scumread me for some reason, you’re unknowingly pocketing me by doing so yet you are

it feels easier to appeal to me in your spot by totally switching up your playstyle or approach

but instead, you’re grilled me and having interesting takes and not clearly pushing an agenda

Debating whether or not I should townread this post

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #721 (isolation #64) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:51 am

In post 639, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Noraa trying to incept doubt from the sidelines while also saying Shoshin isn't necessarily town is noted.

Is this about 628/630 or something more
Not convinced if the former

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #723 (isolation #65) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:56 am

In post 666, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 665, Noraa wrote:shoshin/iv/__
is it really just that easy?
lol there's no way this is a real solve right

Yeah iirc when I was reading the first few pages I thought “IV and shoshin probably aren’t scum by how this is playing out”
Noraa how much weight do you put on associatives D1?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #725 (isolation #66) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:58 am

In post 671, Noraa wrote:
In post 669, innocentvillager wrote:but you ignore the very contingent part of that case where, if i'm scum, shoshin isn't
its very weird that this is the thing that u point out. almost feels like strange caught for the wrong reasons vibes.
I disagree that if ur scum, shoshin isn't and vice versa. I see no reason you can't be scum together.

What???

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #727 (isolation #67) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:59 am

In post 674, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 668, Noraa wrote:Vp talk to me. ur the only calming voice in this chaos *gestures vaguely*
What do you want to talk about?

I mean, they probably both aren't scum here. I'd suspect some number of scum are in the background right now if it is Shoshin. If Shoshin is town, I'm mostly going to be scanning the pile of people trying to stay off the wagon for flimsy reasons.

I think I’m starting to TR vp

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #734 (isolation #68) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:04 am

In post 695, innocentvillager wrote:i just don't understand, how as scum i could possibly be comfortable with this gamestate when ABR has a reputation for just like, powerdriving elims (probably as scum as well as town) and hammering early

Well, if you’re scum with ABR you probably know what he’s planning, thus making you more okay with the process.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #741 (isolation #69) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:11 am

In post 714, Datisi wrote:i dunno lol i think noraa's kinda scummy too

I have seen minor pings but it feels more like Mini 2170 vs. MafiaSunny wrt how the pings make me feel? In the former the pings didn’t really set too hard in my mind initially, in the latter they rang out to me more.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #752 (isolation #70) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:15 am

In post 716, Noraa wrote:
In post 709, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 588, Noraa wrote:that I will drop the moment you slip up if ur scum
o_rly
very calm and composed. one of the few times im willing to let go of my paranoia and town block u. Gamma if ur scum this game, u will break my heart.

tbh I don’t know how accurate this read of my play is, you saw me in Mini 2170 where I lost confidence and had a mental breakdown. I think one of my defining traits might be my volatile reads. It makes me a threat because I could blow up scum’s spot at any moment, but it also means I won’t always stick to potentially accurate reads. If I were to ascribe a Sburb God Tier class+aspect to my playstyle, it would be Bard of Mind.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #753 (isolation #71) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:16 am

Wait I forgot you checked out after getting mislimmed
Yeah, read Day 4 and 5 of Mini 2170 and get back to me on that.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #754 (isolation #72) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:18 am

In post 720, Datisi wrote:the current biggest wagon that's threatening to get hammered is town. possibly its main driver also being town.

What makes you say this?
Tbh despite early feelings that may or may not have existed I think {shoshin, IV, ABR} isn’t an impossible team

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #757 (isolation #73) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:20 am

In post 728, Albert B. Rampage wrote:@Gamma : Noraa summarized her thought process surrounding Shoshin in the last page or so, what I said was factual, she's not TRing Shoshin but was defending her / arguing against me heavily

I both do and do not see this
The theory makes sense but idk if I agree as a whole that “defending without TRing is scum play”.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #760 (isolation #74) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:22 am

At this point while I’m not confident in the shoshin scum flip I think the wagon should get the full payout, so I’ll help keep it at E-1 if needed. Let’s note we don’t have a counterwagon yet, though.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #764 (isolation #75) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:25 am

In post 755, Noraa wrote:
In post 753, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah, read Day 4 and 5 of Mini 2170 and get back to me on that.
don't wanna. that game was at zero enjoyment levels for me.

Ah. Sorry mate.

In post 756, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 754, Gamma Emerald wrote:Tbh despite early feelings that may or may not have existed I think {shoshin, IV, ABR} isn’t an impossible team
it is impossible. im never the long con /deepwolf.

It could be IV though? Or you’re banking on the first D1 wagon not going through.

Also, idc if I’m bussed or doing the bussing, but getting yeeted by town as scum is the worst thing for me.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #765 (isolation #76) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:25 am

In post 762, Datisi wrote:
In post 754, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 720, Datisi wrote:the current biggest wagon that's threatening to get hammered is town. possibly its main driver also being town.
What makes you say this?
Tbh despite early feelings that may or may not have existed I think {shoshin, IV, ABR} isn’t an impossible team
dude idk how to make this more clear
> the only time i saw scum!iv do jack shit was when the game was going good for him
> iv was doing jack shit here
> if he's scum, i think the game was going good for him
> who was getting all the attention? the shoshin wagon, driven by albert
> therefore that wagon was on town, possible main pusher also town

That’s possible, or that’s the team and they are intending on getting bus cred.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #810 (isolation #77) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:50 am

In post 767, Datisi wrote:have you *seen* the way iv voted shoshin? in what world does that vote get *any* towncred?

pedit: re gamma

Eh that seems to make sense given recent events. I’ll drop it.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #814 (isolation #78) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:52 am

In post 781, Shoshin wrote:I have a lot of stuff to address so this will take time. I'll get to it later tonight.

This will be my timetable for voting. 9 PM EST, I expect contribution.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #819 (isolation #79) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:54 am

In post 800, Shoshin wrote:
In post 797, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 794, Shoshin wrote:Nora, please ignore ABR. He's an example of how you shouldn't play.
quick question for you : do you think you can escape today without having to claim yes or no?
If I'm at L-1, I'm not playing this game. Town can live with the consequences of their actions.

So you’ll self-hammer if put at E-1?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #823 (isolation #80) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:55 am

Did Noraa re-vote yet? I’ve changed my mind, I’m good voting now.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #860 (isolation #81) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:05 am

VOTE: Shoshin
I really don’t like how you treated me. And if you REALLY ARE a town PR, you fecked up by switching claims at the slightest pressure on your claim. You essentially have made your role a waste if that’s the case.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #879 (isolation #82) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:11 am

In post 863, Noraa wrote:I don't fake claim ever.

I don’t mean to be rude but you entertained that in Haunted Village and 2170
If you’re saying with more experience you never would, then that’s sensible

Though I also think closing yourself off from changing claims isn’t great, because claiming a full role when X-shot can be a powerful tool but it’s also one you might want to clarify in some scenarios. Plus sometimes you might have a role that plays a lot like another and want to claim that other role.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #883 (isolation #83) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:12 am

In post 873, SirCakez wrote:ABR would YOLO dive this as scum

If shoshin flips town I’ll be reviewing ABR critically but I’m not 100% on him being scum in that case

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #893 (isolation #84) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:15 am

In post 876, Shoshin wrote:My voters never gave me a chance.

You were rude and you paid the price. If you’re scum lesson learned probably, if you’re town we probably need to have a talk postgame because you got voted out because you lacked charisma, nothing more nothing less.

In post 878, Shoshin wrote:I told you I fakeclaim as town. I didn't hide this fact.

Well that’s bad play. I honestly am shocked this is the way you behave, I thought you were a sensible person but someone who consistently fake claims under pressure as town can’t really be called sensible.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #899 (isolation #85) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:18 am

In post 882, Noraa wrote:
In post 879, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don’t mean to be rude but you entertained that in Haunted Village and 2170
nuh uh. I softed but I never fake claimed.

yeah that’s what I meant

In post 887, Shoshin wrote:Gamma's responsible for rushing this.

I explicitly said when I expected something, and rather than politely object you shat on me. I am blameless.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #906 (isolation #86) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:19 am

Like Cakez idc how shoshin read, do you not agree her behavior here is rather deplorable?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #911 (isolation #87) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:20 am

In post 901, Shoshin wrote:I was voted out because you rushed my lynch, Gamma. Why didnt you even give me time? I'm a human being, when people rush the game and don't even let me play, I'm going to get upset

I gave AN EXPLICIT TIMESTAMP. You could have politely told me to loosen up, but instead you got personal.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #916 (isolation #88) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:21 am

In post 905, SirCakez wrote:
In post 750, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Shoshin is at L-1, everybody pay attention to this so no one "accidentally" hammers
pretty sure this is a classic scumtell

Also where was this when I originally called you out on this? Like damn dude, this turnaround kinda shady.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #928 (isolation #89) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:24 am

In post 917, Shoshin wrote:
In post 911, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 901, Shoshin wrote:I was voted out because you rushed my lynch, Gamma. Why didnt you even give me time? I'm a human being, when people rush the game and don't even let me play, I'm going to get upset
I gave AN EXPLICIT TIMESTAMP. You could have politely told me to loosen up, but instead you got personal.
I didn't get personal? I told you when I would post, and that I was upset that you guys were rushing this game.

You called me out explicitly. That wasn’t cool, I am nowhere NEAR the only one involved. But I was the one who held your life in my hands, so you had to slam me. You essentially did what I did in Cinder Blocks against Titus.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #932 (isolation #90) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:25 am

In post 920, petapan wrote:unwnd felt like he was being really uncharitable toward gamma's catchup posts

I agree, but that doesn’t make unwnd scum, in fact I think that makes him town

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #937 (isolation #91) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:26 am

In post 817, Shoshin wrote:I'm in mountain time & will get to this later than that, Gamma.
You, more than anyone
, should realize I'm town.
Your
threats are more reason for me to just site flake. Awful play on
your part
of you're town.

Yeah this surely isn’t attacking me specifically.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #951 (isolation #92) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:32 am

I was willing to give you time and when my timetable wasn’t satisfactory you tried to spit venom at me. Idc if you would do that as scum, you showed you weren’t going to interact justly even if you were town. The same goes regarding the claim, once you switched claims you made yourself a burden. How could I trust anything coming out of your mouth from that point on?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #954 (isolation #93) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:33 am

I wasn’t sure you were scum, Shoshin, but I WAS SURE you weren’t going to be of help as town.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #957 (isolation #94) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:35 am

Alright, that’s about my thought re: Shoshin
If someone else has something to talk to me about I should be around

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #975 (isolation #95) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:51 am

VOTE: Iconeum
Let’s draw this dragon out of his lair a bit.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:49 am

In post 979, VP Baltar wrote:VOTE: innocentvillager

Noraa -- thoughts on gamma?

Gamma -- thoughts on noraa?

I still TR Noraa for now

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:50 am

In post 987, midwaybear wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald
want to talk about why you voted Shoshin

She was either scum or a liability. That’s it.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:51 am

In post 989, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 978, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Ok my POE is IV/Gamma/cakez/deasvail/noraa. I think 3 scum in there.
This is the pool of chucklefucks that would kill alisae.

Unwind was UTR + replacements tend to get killed. Why is your PoE based on NKA?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:51 am

In post 1283, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1282, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 987, midwaybear wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald
want to talk about why you voted Shoshin
She was either scum or a liability. That’s it.
I tracked cakez to midway, he admitted it and said he was a roaming detective. its 1v1 now.

1v1 of who specifically?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:57 am

In post 1059, innocentvillager wrote:
HARDCLAIM!!! I'M A TOWN DISLOYAL HIDER!!! I TARGETED MIDWAYBEAR LAST NIGHT!!!

What’s the point of this role?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:59 am

In post 1090, Datisi wrote:hider ain't an alignment-locked role, i could see a scum hider existing

Bad post

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:00 am

I meant from a setup design perspective @ABR
I know what it DOES

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:01 am

Cakez role could make sense with IV’s role if another specific town PR exists

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:09 am

In post 1109, Albert B. Rampage wrote:IV can investigate scum if we have a tracker/watcher.

Theres zero chance hes getting flipped today I dont give a fuck what anyone says.

This checks out I think

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:24 am

In post 1123, innocentvillager wrote:im pretty sure my d2 is far outside my scumrange but *sigh* it's hard for you guys to know that

Legit how

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:33 am

In post 1132, SirCakez wrote:
In post 678, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 673, Albert B. Rampage wrote:seriously IV, if noraa is scum who tf do you think she is scum WITH??? its obviously shoshin look at her iso.

back on shoshin please DO NOT DIVIDE THE TOWN AND TAKE OFF THE PRESSURE
yeah yeah i read your wiki page so sure, one at a time

VOTE: shoshin
scummy fucking vote
In post 681, innocentvillager wrote:(that was a joke btw)

idk, shoshin could definitely be scum despite my weaktownlean. i just don't know. let's see where this goes
fence sitting so he can escape blame when Sho flips town
In post 695, innocentvillager wrote:i just don't understand, how as scum i could possibly be comfortable with this gamestate when ABR has a reputation for just like, powerdriving elims (probably as scum as well as town) and hammering early
says this but STAYS ON SHOSHIN WAGON
In post 740, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 738, Albert B. Rampage wrote:2) see if my buddies can bail me out
UNVOTE: shoshin
unvotes but then
In post 745, innocentvillager wrote:VOTE: shoshin
REVOTES IN FIVE POSTS
In post 751, innocentvillager wrote:VOTE: Shoshin
AND THEN REVOTES AGAIN
In post 775, innocentvillager wrote:if anyone hammers and the flips green in the next like, 24 hours or so, that's a scumclaim in my eyes.
SAYS THIS BUT DOESNT UNVOTE ALLOWING HIS SCUMBUDDY ABR TO QUICKHAMMER

Yah this progression is shit

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:23 pm

In post 1149, innocentvillager wrote:feel like scum is just letting town eat itself up this game

somehow, the consensus takes are just wrong, tbh i might need to rethink midway but idek if ill have that luxury

once DV and Ico weigh in we might have a little more color, maybe not

Baltar could be scum too

Do you think scum are in the inactives?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:25 pm

In post 1325, innocentvillager wrote:I’m glad it’s becoming and more and more clear I am town!

I meant YOUR progression, on shoshin

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:26 pm

In post 1151, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm a tracker. I tracked sircakez to midway last night and I'm pretty sure he's scum.

And you didn’t immediately attempt to press him about it why?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:28 pm

In post 1170, Noraa wrote:I just saw quite some claims.
If cake really did visit midway, he is probs scum. The reason is that if he got a guilty, he would've just said it but pushing midway in this shady way is weird.
I'm semi caught up.

Honestly based on cakez’s claim the shade makes sense
Unlike ABR who didn’t actually press Cakez like he should have

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:31 pm

In post 1209, SirCakez wrote:A tracker + my role makes me think there is absolutely no way IV's role exists

Okay this is bad imo
IV+ABR or IV+Cakez make some sense. ABR+Cakez lacks synergy to that degree. I don’t know why Cakez jumped to pushing IV and it’s kinda sus

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:33 pm

I think ABR not pressing his tracker target is less of a sin than Cakez having that weird setup spec

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:35 pm

Idk what Cakez is at but consider my vote on him in spirit

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:45 pm

In post 1343, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1326, innocentvillager wrote:ABR is obviously town
which strongly suggests I am town

Can cakez still be town given both of us are town?
there's no way all three of us are town too much town power

Is it? Tracker/MD combo is not that special even with whatever lazy is (I don’t remember oof)
Disloyal hider only really helps if it obvtowns
Your role becomes useless the second it targets one scum

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:48 pm

In post 1368, SirCakez wrote:now i'm paranoid we're all town and scum Noraa is skating by here

Maybe? Why can’t it be mwb or DV or something
Though I also dislike that Noraa’s activity has dropped hard. You might actually be onto something there.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:51 pm

In post 1372, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Cakez is manipulating you.

You are fucking blind and deaf.

I should have let him fucking lynch you, ingrate. Why I stick my neck out to be thanked for this stupidity?

First you say someone save me and then you spit on me. I should never have helped you had I know the depths of your willful ignorance, your weakness, your absolute trash read of the game.

In post 1373, Albert B. Rampage wrote:This is the most angry mafia has made me in years.

I WAS HAPPY WITH THIS PLAYER LIST. I FELT WELCOME.

YOU BETRAYED ME. YOU DISLOYAL WRETCH.

Jesus Christ, this is too much. Bruh, you’re not entitled to having someone follow you just because you defended them. Cakez you understand what this is right? This is what it seemed like I was doing @ Noraa that one point during D1 of xenoblade 2

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:54 pm

In post 1386, Albert B. Rampage wrote:hes still operating off of his fake ass IV tunnel. implies scum want to trade 2 of theirs for 1 of him. this is preposterous.

Yeah this is the part I most think is problematic about Cakez rn. His bad spec push on IV seems like scum who had to stay consistent over having sensible thoughts.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:57 pm

In post 1394, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1390, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1380, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1375, innocentvillager wrote:woah chill

Fine i will consider a vote there. Let’s just wait and see what happens
don't fall for his AtE
It just feels like this is directed at town!me who supposedly believes scum!ABR so now I’m going but you scumread both of us, but you’re actually scum who knows we’re both town so now I’m going?????

maybe I am wrong on you being town...
i can't parse this post
i'm saying regardless of ABR alignment don't fall for his AtE
if he's town here he's really wrong and has his head up his ass

Ok nope Cakez is scum, this is the sort of doubt scum shows

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:57 pm

In post 1465, Noraa wrote:
In post 1460, Gamma Emerald wrote:Though I also dislike that Noraa’s activity has dropped hard.
don't use my meta. don't even sort me. you suck ass at sorting me.

No. I’ll sort whoever I want, how the fuck am I gonna get better if I don’t TRY?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:00 pm

In post 1398, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1393, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1386, Albert B. Rampage wrote:. He comes in with a game plan for his lies,
What was Cakez plan in your eyes?
fakes he knows IV is scum and tunnels on him all day, keeps it in his backpocket to fakeclaim something to explain his overconfidence

when you know he went to see midway, his play day 2 makes zero fucking sense so I put a stop to it

Tbh why not say you tracked Cakez without claiming who he targeted? That leave enough rope for him to hang himself with.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:02 pm

In post 1469, Noraa wrote:
In post 1468, Gamma Emerald wrote:No. I’ll sort whoever I want, how the fuck am I gonna get better if I don’t TRY?
I dont care if u get better cuz from my pov u singlehandedly push my mislims every game and I'm fucking tired of it.

I tried to SAVE you in Xenoblade 2, and this is the thanks I get? You are exceedingly ungrateful! And I never once pushed you in Betrayal so DON’T EVEN.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:08 pm

In post 1418, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Cakez
Datsi
Deasvail

All players we should look into heavily. Gamma is the only player on the wagon who might be scum. If scum hedge and leave 1 on the wagon just for fun.

I joined on AFTER it became a foregone conclusion
Why don’t I let shoshin make even more of a scene and make it harder to get caught further down? You replaced out but I took the same sort of Civil War doctor approach to limming Flavor Leaf in Betrayal.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:12 pm

In post 1473, Noraa wrote:
In post 1472, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1469, Noraa wrote:
In post 1468, Gamma Emerald wrote:No. I’ll sort whoever I want, how the fuck am I gonna get better if I don’t TRY?
I dont care if u get better cuz from my pov u singlehandedly push my mislims every game and I'm fucking tired of it.
I tried to SAVE you in Xenoblade 2, and this is the thanks I get? You are exceedingly ungrateful! And I never once pushed you in Betrayal so DON’T EVEN.
Ah ok so when I'm scum, you TR me. Wonderful timing.
In Betrayal I repped into a p towny slot so..

You were also widely SR in Betrayal. If this is legitimately how you feel you’re accentuating the negative here, but honestly I think you’re happy to straight up lie about our dealings to make yourself look better.
And there was also Student Council where I SRed you, but

rather than try and take the route that assumed you were scum, I played smart and took the other option that was the right play

. So yeah fuck right off with that “Gamma always miselims Noraa” noise. You’re probably scum for that in fact, since it is in your favor to discredit me like this.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:18 pm

VOTE: Noraa
Jsyk if this flips scum it’s the second time scum has misrepresented my meta in a super-bad way that got them caught.
You cannot hope to defeat me in a meta-reading challenge. I am simply the best there is. (Not really)

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:18 pm

In post 1479, Noraa wrote:You know what?
I think the solve's just
Gamma/Cake/Midway
Might really just be that easy.
I'll see what I think after my reread tomorrow.

This doesn’t track with the AtE response to me

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:19 pm

In post 1419, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Noraa too

In post 1420, Albert B. Rampage wrote:IV should hug the shit out of Noraa if he wants to live to the end.

Vote Noraa, she scumclaimed by overreaching about my meta in an attempt to discredit me

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:22 pm

In post 1429, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1426, Datisi wrote:i was *on* the wagon tho??
Ok fine so Gamma is not probscum then.

Wait how does this change how I read?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:24 pm

In post 1444, Albert B. Rampage wrote:cakez/noraa/gamma?

I mean that would be legitimately hilarious but no.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:25 pm

In post 1449, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1429, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1426, Datisi wrote:i was *on* the wagon tho??
Ok fine so Gamma is not probscum then.

In post 1444, Albert B. Rampage wrote:cakez/noraa/gamma?
Nice progression
ABR's posting is incoherent because it's faked

Tbh I don’t how how the former precludes the latter and Eve if there was cogdis there it’s actually a towny cogdis imo

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:26 pm

In post 1452, SirCakez wrote:ABR is just sooooo desperate here you can tell
I'll go ahead and move my vote
VOTE: abr

Desperate about what, exactly?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:32 pm

VOTE: cakez
Okay

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:44 pm

In post 1517, Iconeum wrote:i've got information that there's at least like 3 other pr's in this game btw

Wdym

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:53 pm

It sounds like you meant beyond IV/ABR/Cakez
If you mean town PR, that’s CRAZY.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:00 pm

Well then

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:49 pm

Is there anything on the last 10 pages that isn't this same Cakez vs. ABR debate

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:34 pm

In post 1928, VP Baltar wrote:@gamma& DV: You could -- and hear me out here -- add original lines of questioning to the game.

I'll try but I'm not gonna pour my heart in it just now

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:36 pm

Noraa you've specced about there being a vig three times in the last 2 pages, what's up with that

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:56 pm

VOTE: Noraa
Spare the mod the trouble and just yeet this today.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:39 am

I’m here, just not sure what to think. Have a thought but wanna save it for later.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:04 am

I feel like outside of Shoshin my reads early on haven’t been too off-the-mark so I’m inclined to not lim inside my early townpool

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:16 am

Not inclined to trust ABR. Noraa I guess might be worth suspicion despite at one point being in the townblock. As I said, not sure about much.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:23 am

Again, not sure WHAT I want rn.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:54 am

If you wanna go 0/3 be my guest.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:11 pm

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:13 pm

I’m curious what the claims are atp; recap pls?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:10 am

In post 2207, Dunnstral wrote:Well now it looks like abr is mafia off of claims, tracker, roleblocker, and roaming detective seems like a bit much

Indeed, that’s 3 roles that become much more power when 1 scum is left

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:44 am

VPB’s claim is confirmed by 2 people. If VPB is scum his entire team is in on this play.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:05 am

Cyberpunk 2077 is a video game.

VOTE: ABR
I’m going with the smart play. We’ll have room to dunk VPB and his team if we need to.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:06 am

I legit think it’s just ABR, but even if you don’t it’s a better move to sink the ship that tells the entire fleet’s location as the last resort.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:53 am

I'm gonna guess dunn and DV as the other two

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:19 am

also I feel like last time I played with dunn in a scenario like this he was town and played very differently to here

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:14 pm

it was a diffusion of power game, you replaced navy and like, instantly made that slot harder to ML
I don't see that same vibe from u and I evaluate your slot as similar to the navy slot in that game wrt what the situation was pre-your rep in

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:21 pm

how can you disagree off hand, you probably don't remember that game off the top of your head

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:41 pm

I mean, I think you're scum
kinda hard to miselim scum

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:17 pm

better question, who does he think it is if not me?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:28 am

In post 2317, innocentvillager wrote:what's the lylo plan in the event ABR flips town?

Look HARD at VPB and his so-called targets I guess

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:30 am

In post 2352, VP Baltar wrote:And is gamma scum or you're just voting him for not voting?

Thought I voted ABR
VOTE: ABR

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:45 am

lulwut

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:38 pm

Don’t ignore IV pushing every possible angle to WIFOM the ABR flip

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:10 pm

It’s becoming more plausible by the minute imo

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:08 pm

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:09 pm

DV wagon absolutely infested with scum

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:11 pm

In post 2500, Albert B. Rampage wrote:No i dont get angry as scum here. I self hammer and Gtfo. I hate playing scum.

I dont spend my energy after a long day of moving and work TO GET ON YOUR FUCKING ASS TO WAKE THE FUCK UP AND SMELL THE SCUM RIDING YOU SO HARD

Raw, Unfiltered BULLSHIT.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:25 pm

Btw my thing I was reserving earlier, which probably doesn’t matter now, was given Gypyx being known for crazy setups I had no reservations about anticipating the backup RB being a red herring

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:29 pm

In post 2530, DeasVail wrote:I think Dunn is a prime example of scumbuddy who saw team-mate ABR as a goner and so gave up on him, only to jump to juicy alternative option (me) as soon as it looked possible that ABR might survive. Because it is not consistent with how Dunn has been talking about the game.

Dunn/ABR/IV
Too easy?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:30 pm

In post 2531, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2357, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Idk what a friendly neighbor is, but why cant VP be a scum neighborizer?

How is it possible we have a tracker, detective, and a role that is confirmable?

It's impossible.
you know what a town does when they see a claim they don't recognize?

1)they go look it up
2)they ask in game what it does/means
3)theu assume it's a fake claim and push the slot

i'll give a hint: 1 option isn't townie

Also, ABR claiming he’s never encountered FN feels fake as shit
Like, he’s been around for a while, NO WAY he’s never even seen the role in casual conversation

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:31 pm

In post 2534, DeasVail wrote:There's a very real possibility imo that IV is actually just out of the loop

I don’t think someone out of the loop go in so deep in a devil’s advocate gambit

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:33 pm

ABR you’re already hammered I’m p sure
Go home.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:36 pm

Oh Dunn switched
PETA pls hammer the obvscum

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:37 pm

ABR + DV makes 0 sense rn

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:39 pm

Lmao ABR just scumclaiming with that tone
You don’t say “we watch VPB (town leader guy) fucking die” unless you’re an evil scumlord
BYE FELICIA

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:43 pm

Me, VPB, DV, Ico
You’re still E-1

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:44 pm

Okay, Captain Babyrage.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:07 pm

In post 2607, Albert B. Rampage wrote:100% Gamma
100% DV

65% Ico
60% peta

This math doesn’t even makes SENSE lollll

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:15 am

Ico was your 6 PR thing just outguessing-the-mod?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:32 am

Yeah that’s a potential white flag gambit

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:57 am

In post 2724, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 2721, petapan wrote:hard not to get squinty eyes when iv is calling midway scum but both are saying to vote deasvail first

In post 2722, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah that’s a potential white flag gambit
can both of you explain what you're thinking here and what exactly susses you out?

I’m essentially agreeing with peta that IV and midway could be scum because of that interaction
I just also threw out the specific wikitell he was referring to

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:28 am

I mean sure, but I really don't see how I don't get miselim'ed, the consensus was if it wasn't ABR it's DV/gamma
If even one town sticks to that town loses

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:36 am

I might effort soon, but I'm not promising it yet

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:44 am

if I had to say the team atm I'd guess dunn/mwb/iv

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:58 am

sure? I trust ico a good amount, noraa/dunn don't strike me as town, I sussed mwb and iv early, I generally have some good early scumread, and there's the fact mwb and iv are both pushing dv while thinking the other is scum (at least one of them is confirmed doing this, the other might be doing this on some level). The only blind spot in this set of considerations is you.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:07 am

white flag gambit as I'm calling it here equals the combined target being town

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:15 am

it's kinda an approximation
essentially it's a cross between that and "fos a buddy vote a townie"

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:22 am

you're not the person I think I need to convince

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:16 pm

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:30 pm

Try me bitch.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:09 pm

Mind telling me why you think Ico is scum?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:18 pm

She was lashing out at me for no reason and I didn’t trust her to have reasonable interactions in future days.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:50 pm

No, it’s the fact she was singled out alongside me, plus mwb and IV targeting her like they are seems like scum targeting town

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:56 pm

I haven’t exactly kept how I feel about that a secret.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:05 pm

Have you not been reading my posts today?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:49 pm

Guess what happened yesterday? I’m not claiming I thought this whole thing through but my gameplay on that topic makes a whole lotta sense when factoring that in.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:32 pm

DV claimed PR?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:48 pm

It’s driving a town vs. town feud I’m figuring
By pushing DV scum got those on ABR to double down on that. Once ABR flipped the next step was to use the snapback to get DV miselimmed.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:19 am

In post 2778, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2777, Gamma Emerald wrote:Once ABR flipped the next step was to use the snapback to get DV miselimmed.
Is this theoretical, or are you saying this is what is happening?

I think DV was already in a position where they were likely to be flipped next

I mean, it’s kinda both?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:20 am

In post 2779, DeasVail wrote:Does anyone have strong feelings that Ico is town? Ico's always given me a town feel here and seems to be one of the more townread slots throughout but going with Ico town probably ends up leaving me with a Gamma/MWB/Dunn scumteam which doesn't quite
FEEL
right.

Why is IV town for you?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:27 am

I can't really do much rn, my engines are spent and I don't have auxilary power rn

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:01 pm

I’m thinking about role functionality and I feel like disloyal hider would be weird for scum to fakeclaim or trueclaim
So I don’t think it’s IV atp
Wanna vote dunn tbh, he has not impressed at all and Noraa was widely scumread iirc

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:11 pm

Town is demotivated
Scum doesn’t want gamestate to change
So nothing is happening