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yo peta IIRC you said that midway is way out of his scumrange here, yet you seem to be pushing them like you scumread them?Rawr!
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your solve is me + gamma + DV?In post 2752, midwaybear wrote:It seems like Gamma and DV are putting it all on the table today and their contingency plan is f3 with me vs Ico.
you think i'm gonna be bussing both of my teammates here, instead of working on a town flip and just win the game in scum!Ico world?Rawr!
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i don't understand the logic gamma is pushing wrt literally all scum piling onto a counter wagon (and a town pr at that)Rawr!
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i might have explained that badlyIn post 2774, Gamma Emerald wrote:DV claimed PR?
->i mean, why would scum pile onto a wagon, leading away from a claimed pr (tracker/motion detecter, so a fairly strong one at that), to flip a claimed VT?Rawr!
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i could see scum dividing themselves among t/t wagons, but all 3 in this scenario?
that's a stretch to say the leastRawr!
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This reads like ur shopping for a flip, or likeIn post 2779, DeasVail wrote:Does anyone have strong feelings that Ico is town? Ico's always given me a town feel here and seems to be one of the more townread slots throughout but going with Ico town probably ends up leaving me with a Gamma/MWB/Dunn scumteam which doesn't quiteFEELright.
testing the waters where you can push
'hey guys i do townread this ico fella buuuuuuuut…'Rawr!
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@peta, did i misread this?In post 2690, petapan wrote:
because i don't think that kind of last minute flashwagon on dv happens if a teammate is bussing him, otherwise they would just sit on abrIn post 2676, innocentvillager wrote:
this is your response to my question on why you think it’s ico/dv/gamma if dv is scum? It’s not me because I drove the DV wagon so it’s ico, the only remaining PR, and it’s not midway because dv/midway aren’t aligned, and definitely not Dunnstral for the same reason?In post 2674, petapan wrote:i took a shower and my thoughts were that probably one of the remaining PR claims is fake, and there's at least 1 in midway/gamma
I agree with that logic up to mwb, and think we need to re-examine that slot
peta i think you’re town and if you vote town today we are completely screwed, not to stress you out more but we cannot vote a townie today or like ever
and midway is such a low confidence player as scum that jumping off a wagon on a town pr to vote a teammate would be completely out of character for him
doesn't it imply you think mdw 'wouldn't do that as scum'?Rawr!
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thoughts?In post 2782, Iconeum wrote:
This reads like ur shopping for a flip, or likeIn post 2779, DeasVail wrote:Does anyone have strong feelings that Ico is town? Ico's always given me a town feel here and seems to be one of the more townread slots throughout but going with Ico town probably ends up leaving me with a Gamma/MWB/Dunn scumteam which doesn't quiteFEELright.
testing the waters where you can push
'hey guys i do townread this ico fella buuuuuuuut…'Rawr!
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you think a genuine town thought is like
'hey guys i townread ico but does anyone scumread ico so i can push there'
ok it's a liberal interpretation but it's how i read thatRawr!
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what the fuck does this even mean?In post 2806, midwaybear wrote:
Your teammates are working on the town flip, and you are the backup plan.In post 2772, Iconeum wrote:you think i'm gonna be bussing both of my teammates here, instead of working on a town flip and just win the game in scum!Ico world?
you think i'm scum, who is sitting out on scumhunting and i am the backup 'to bus' plan or???Rawr!
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gamma if everyone were here right now, and they threw down a voteIn post 2822, Gamma Emerald wrote:Town is demotivated
Scum doesn’t want gamestate to change
So nothing is happening
who do you think gets a majority of votes?Rawr!
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well if i thought IV was fakeclaiming i'd be all over their asses today so…In post 2819, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’m thinking about role functionality and I feel like disloyal hider would be weird for scum to fakeclaim or trueclaim
So I don’t think it’s IV atp
Wanna vote dunn tbh, he has not impressed at all and Noraa was widely scumread iirc
i'm looking for exactly 1 more townRawr!
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i think so too, and likeIn post 2826, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Me probablyIn post 2824, Iconeum wrote:
gamma if everyone were here right now, and they threw down a voteIn post 2822, Gamma Emerald wrote:Town is demotivated
Scum doesn’t want gamestate to change
So nothing is happening
who do you think gets a majority of votes?
simple math says that means ur town because scum are obviously content with how this is progressing so…
that means
mdw/DV/dunn?Rawr!
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I don't think scum!DV is going to be throwing out a solve including *both* buddies, right?In post 2813, DeasVail wrote:
I think right now I’m at gamma or midwayIn post 2810, Dunnstral wrote:I'd like to vote gamma todayRawr!
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are 2 out of 3 scum really gonna be bussing their partner when there's a competing town wagon available is what i'm wondering here
(DV v ABR previous day)
both mdw and dunn were on DV, with DV being on ABRRawr!
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if you have problems with how i solved your slots, why don't you start responding to *any* of the posts i made where i'm actuallyt trying to solve this shit?In post 2846, Dunnstral wrote:I could be persuaded, but I'm not convinced right now
I'm reconsidering some things. I think the scumteam is Gamma/Iconeum/Midwaybear, or something close to that. The way Iconeum has treated both of our slots today feels very agenda driven, and like he's going for the win today
Gamma has a really bad solve (me/IV/mwb) and is transparently not playing as his town self
Midwaybear is poe, but he's arguing that the team is Gamma/Ico/you, so.... this read seems dubious
I'm acknowledging that this means I've had bad reads on you, Iconeum, and maybe MWB throughout this game. I think I misunderstood something with the prs that made Iconeum seem more likely town - I didn't realize IV was also claiming a pr, and it's possible for Iconeum's role to be scum aligned even if it's trueRawr!
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dunn, how is your vote on gamma not exactly agenda driven?
it's literally scum!you going for the win here, knowing other people outed their intent to vote gammaRawr!
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so you think the 'solve' is midway, who wants to vote gamma todayIn post 2846, Dunnstral wrote:I'm reconsidering some things. I think the scumteam is Gamma/Iconeum/Midwaybear, or something close to that. The way Iconeum has treated both of our slots today feels very agenda driven, and like he's going for the win today
me, who does nothing to step in and save either buddy here
or gamma, a slot that i'm doing what with exactly? fake solving?Rawr!
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you wanna start talking about how scum!me just let a CONFIRMED TOWN live throughout N2, and instead killed Datisi (who was townreading me)?In post 2846, Dunnstral wrote:I'm acknowledging that this means I've had bad reads on you, Iconeum, and maybe MWB throughout this game. I think I misunderstood something with the prs that made Iconeum seem more likely town - I didn't realize IV was also claiming a pr, and it's possible for Iconeum's role to be scum aligned even if it's true
yeah that's totally my play as scum this game...Rawr!
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you wanna start talking about how scum!me just happily claimed information about not one, not two, but THREE power roles and put myself in a corner with that? where is my agenda exactly?Rawr!
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this information has been available for most of the gameIn post 2846, Dunnstral wrote:I didn't realize IV was also claiming a pr, and it's possible for Iconeum's role to be scum aligned even if it's true
town!you would have questioned my claim ages ago
coming out with 'oh look now i think ico's claim might actually be scum' is so bad
if this is town!you, you need to come to your senses and work with meRawr!
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IV/peta are prob town
gamma is like prob town as well
Dunn/DV/mdw/ is probably the solve, or there is a huge error in my actual townreadsRawr!
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Spoiler: dunn reads
dunn how did you go from having DV as your strongest scumread (other then ABR), into voting DV onto E-1, intoworking together with him on solves outside of (DV)?Rawr!
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Spoiler: dunn reads
dunn how did you go from having DV as your strongest scumread (other then ABR), into voting DV onto E-1, intoworking together with him on solves outside of (DV)?Rawr!
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i go away for a weekendIn post 2855, innocentvillager wrote:ico can you please please explain why gamma is town
literally nothing happens
gamma was prime suspect
-> scum also not doing anything -> scum happy -> gamma townRawr!
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if gamma were scum
and he was the prime target for misflip, scum arent going to stand by watching the clock tick down
they are gonna work on getting someone else flippedRawr!
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true, and beats meIn post 2863, innocentvillager wrote:so if gamma is a prime suspect as town why didn’t gamma do anything?
being apathic towards the game i imagine
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then I come back from weekend VLA, start pushing DV
dunn and DV get in, start pushing Gamma
While dunn had been hard scumreading DV as seen in my prior post because?????Rawr!
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gamma is at least looking like he's trying to solve stuffIn post 2865, Dunnstral wrote:
And that's where you come inIn post 2864, Iconeum wrote:if gamma were scum
and he was the prime target for misflip, scum arent going to stand by watching the clock tick down
they are gonna work on getting someone else flipped
Dunn is now literally working together with his previous scumread without any actual cause for that (that i can see)Rawr!
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there *literally* has to be town in the players that aren't giving a fuck, you realize that right?In post 2861, innocentvillager wrote:so tbh, part of the reason I lurked over the weekend on purpose was because I wanted to see who gave a fuck and didn’t give a fuck
It’s clear that scum didn’t do jackshit
one of those players was gamma emerald
I don’t think gamma emerald gives a fuck about this game and has resigned to their elimination
And I don’t think that is a towny mindsetRawr!
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read Dunn's isoIn post 2871, innocentvillager wrote:tbh the only reason I townread Dunn is because I totwmread noraa
look how they went from scum!DV to town!DV
it doesn't make senseRawr!
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VOTE: dunnIn post 2918, innocentvillager wrote:im not wording this well but what i mean is that, if DV is town, scum's agenda is certainly to set up DV for a miselim, regardless of how they try to do that
one such vector, that I'm positing above, is that they bus Gamma, gamma flips (so gamma is intentionally giving up rn to set up the narrative for Gamma/DV/? team), then we flashwagon DV the next day to stall Ico v MWB, and then scum wins on DV's flip
i'm town
DV and dunn are scumRawr!
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there is literallyIn post 2887, Dunnstral wrote:
I started reconsidering things hereIn post 2649, DeasVail wrote:
I'm wondering if we've both been town this whole timeIn post 2646, Dunnstral wrote:
Here's the thing...In post 2645, DeasVail wrote:I'm town
I don't think midway and peta are scum together
Which means it would be to be one of those two, plus gamma, plus iconeum
And that seems less likely to me than it being you
So yes @iconeum
*nothing*
in there that could change your mind so completely around, unless it's faked
a simple 'oh it was *this* post'?
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Dunn hasn't really coasted, they have pushed their scumread from DV away into Gamma, now teaming up with their prior top scumread because ??In post 2889, innocentvillager wrote:sorry that was supposed to be spoilered
anyway, the people who have been coasting today are:
innocentvillager (partly on purpose)
Iconeum (not even, just V/LA)
petapan (idk, he's just been paranoia/unsure or is faking it)
Dunnstral (but this is typical NAI Dunnstral)
midwaybear - they're ready to vote/have the solve and haven't been trying to push more discussion
DeasVail - they've been coasting all game, acknowledging that they haven't really done a ton this game, but still continuing to coast
Gamma - has given up
peta's been ?? for sure, but i just see a lost townie there
mdw is either straight out scum or a newbie town here. I've seen both in players before.
DV has absolutely been coasting all game, and IIRC he isn't even surprised about Dunn's change of heart?
Gamma at least tried to reach out to me and work things through, which is more then I can say about most of these live playersRawr!
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?????In post 2968, Dunnstral wrote:peta or gamma have to be scum from your point of view, the above is a scum claimRawr!
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have youIn post 2971, Dunnstral wrote:
Peta is voting for Gamma, everyone has since posted, and there has been no hammerIn post 2968, Dunnstral wrote:peta or gamma have to be scum from your point of view
even read the game before this?Rawr!
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there are a multitude of reasons for scum to not orchestrate hammerIn post 2971, Dunnstral wrote:
Peta is voting for Gamma, everyone has since posted, and there has been no hammerIn post 2968, Dunnstral wrote:peta or gamma have to be scum from your point of viewRawr!
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work with me here man
do you see why my solve works? it's most likely NOT gamma...
come to your senses please, or talk to me why gamma IS scum??Rawr!
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