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Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:43 am

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I was told to go post
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Post Post #37 (isolation #1) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:42 am

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I don’t think I have seen anything alignment indicative from her. Is your read just based on her tone?
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Post Post #60 (isolation #2) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:35 am

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I still don't get why unwnd townreads Noraa.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #3) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:40 am

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In post 38, Datisi wrote:i was about to ask that but midway beat me to it so instead, the first townlean of the game goes to midway!!
Would scum!Datisi say this? I don't think it serves him any value as scum here.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #4) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:08 pm

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In post 71, VP Baltar wrote:Interacting with people is how I get a sense of what people are thinking.
Who were you interacting with there?
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Post Post #83 (isolation #5) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:36 pm

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In post 80, petapan wrote:tbh i don't think midwaybear has towntold in his first 5 posts, a bad sign for him
How do you even read me
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Post Post #89 (isolation #6) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:40 pm

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In post 86, Noraa wrote:why hasn't midway TRed me yet?
Are you serious about this? That was a completely different setting.
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Post Post #92 (isolation #7) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:42 pm

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In post 87, petapan wrote:i dunno i expect when you're town to make it apparent really quickly
I don't think I'm an obv-town player. My recent playstyle is mostly NAI.
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Post Post #110 (isolation #8) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:55 pm

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In post 104, petapan wrote:you had this eager beaver energy that seems to be missing here
That wasn't even the whole game, and none of my other towngames of recent are like that.
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Post Post #117 (isolation #9) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:58 pm

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In post 113, Noraa wrote:I don't think its really weird to expect a TR straight off the bat if the person has done it before
That was a marathon game! Dayphases were 15 or whatever minutes! It is not the same.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #10) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:28 pm

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Where did he feel fake to you?
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Post Post #146 (isolation #11) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:41 pm

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ABR seems a little less aggressive than I was expecting. I get that he is going hard against Cakez, but the wording in his posts doesn't really indicate belief.
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Post Post #154 (isolation #12) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:51 pm

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So you've adapted your playstyle? Would you say you would be more fiery as scum here?
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Post Post #159 (isolation #13) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:55 pm

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In post 155, Albert B. Rampage wrote:this game player list is like baby yoda man. i wanna hug each and every one of you. you are not scary. you make me happy.
So you would be taking a mellowed down approach regardless of alignment?
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Post Post #164 (isolation #14) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:58 pm

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Wait... you seemed really aggressive as scum in Betrayal Mafia. I feel like the playerlist is relatively comparable. I'm not sure what to make of this because your mellow approach is different, but then your mindset doesn't make sense.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #15) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:06 pm

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People seem way too eager to make reads to the point where I feel like accuracy is being compromised.
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Post Post #281 (isolation #16) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:09 pm

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Gamma's catchup seems townie mostly because it stands out and doesn't look super good.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #17) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:13 pm

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In post 221, Shoshin wrote:
In post 217, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I highly doubt that you can read Noraa, her friendliness is NAI, she seems like she slip by right under your nose if you were an informed cop, and your chainsaw defense of your fake townread screams scum to me.
This feels like too much justification for voting me, but maybe you believe it. Not sure.
I like the way Shoshin is handling ABR here, but I don't know if I can townread it.
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Post Post #285 (isolation #18) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:17 pm

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In post 282, unwnd wrote:I think that you chose to behave this way because you want to be townread like mastina would for doing what you did and nothing else
If he really wanted to get cred, couldn't he have just not said he was copying someone else's playstyle?

BTW, fence sitting isn't scummy.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #19) » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:25 pm

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That took me a bit to process, but if he said that as a sort of buffer, then it's interesting that he decided to catch up that way in the first place.
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Post Post #324 (isolation #20) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:24 am

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In post 288, unwnd wrote:Post whatever you want as long as it doesn't start to become hyperposting.
That's basically what I've been doing...
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Post Post #334 (isolation #21) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:41 am

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Datisi's posting yesterday seemed fake.
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Post Post #338 (isolation #22) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:45 am

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Sure, your opening posts read like you were on edge, and they just don't sit well with me.
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Post Post #339 (isolation #23) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:47 am

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Felt like you were trying to stream of consciousness post to get townread.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #24) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:31 pm

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In post 342, Datisi wrote:hm, i thought you were townleaning off one of my opening posts?

and /shrug, i always post like that.
Those were two disjoint things. I did not know that you normally post like that. Is this a reliable way to read you? There must be some differences.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #25) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:11 pm

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How is your town playstyle different from your scum playstyle? This doesn't seem particularly hard to fake.
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Post Post #457 (isolation #26) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:15 pm

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Oh shoot he changed his avatar.
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Post Post #467 (isolation #27) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:34 pm

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In post 460, Shoshin wrote:Being easy to fake doesn't mean it's not how I play as town. I'm best sorted via BoP.
I don't want to sort people through BoP because sometimes reads will be good and other times not as much. Unless you're saying that you can nail scum 100%, this doesn't do much for me.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #28) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:36 pm

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IV should not be expected to play like Not_Mafia.
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Post Post #480 (isolation #29) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:39 pm

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In post 476, Shoshin wrote:You'll find that I catch multiple scum in every game
Every game huh. I'm going to hold you to this.
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Post Post #676 (isolation #30) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:18 am

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In post 674, VP Baltar wrote:I'd suspect some number of scum are in the background right now if it is Shoshin. If Shoshin is town, I'm mostly going to be scanning the pile of people trying to stay off the wagon for flimsy reasons.
What's the difference between the two? I also don't really think the second reason is particularly valid.
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Post Post #679 (isolation #31) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:20 am

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I could hammer this btw.
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Post Post #689 (isolation #32) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:25 am

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VOTE: Shoshin
You got it
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Post Post #696 (isolation #33) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:29 am

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In post 691, VP Baltar wrote:Scum have to make a quick decision on speed wagons. If Shoshin is town, they are more likely to stay off the wagon if it is town driven.
Why wouldn't scum be bussing Shoshin at this point? If she is town, I feel like there is going to more scum on the wagon. That's why I don't think people off wagon are necessarily scum.
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Post Post #987 (isolation #34) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:55 am

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald
want to talk about why you voted Shoshin
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Post Post #994 (isolation #35) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:57 am

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BTW, not sure why I'm being scumread here
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Post Post #998 (isolation #36) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:58 am

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In post 996, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I literally did not believe shoshin was scum.
Really now
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #37) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:59 am

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In post 999, petapan wrote:probably because you're being scummy
Like what
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Post Post #1008 (isolation #38) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:00 am

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idk what Noraa is doing right now.
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #39) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:03 am

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In post 1015, petapan wrote:like the response you just gave me
How is that scummy? I don't really believe a two word response makes you scumread me further.
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #40) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:05 am

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In post 1024, Datisi wrote:midway why did you vote shoshin your limp onto the wagon was puuuuuureeeee traaaaaaaaaashhhhhhhhhh
Why was it pure trash?
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #41) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:05 am

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ABR save me
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Post Post #1046 (isolation #42) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:07 am

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I said I could hammer her. I wasn't townreading her yesterday and her behavior later on was hard to read.
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #43) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:08 am

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In post 1037, SirCakez wrote:lack of presence
lol are you serious? When have I ever had a presence in a game
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #44) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:10 am

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In post 1054, SirCakez wrote:Scum ass response
Sure dude. Want to talk about why you decided to give "lack of presence" to scumread me?
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Post Post #1069 (isolation #45) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:13 am

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He is lying.
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #46) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:16 am

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That's not even a guilty
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Post Post #1100 (isolation #47) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:21 am

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In post 1087, innocentvillager wrote:if i am scum, you have to believe like one of my buddies came up with it as a lol!last ditch effort or something
Aren't you in a bad spot? You admitted it yourself.
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Post Post #1172 (isolation #48) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:02 am

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Hmm from a mech standpoint this makes IV look better. Unless scum really wanted to go all out which I can also see.
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Post Post #1178 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:05 am

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Ugh this is crazy, but it could be crazy in a good way. Cakez needs to claim. Cakez is likely not an investigative role due to his meh stance on me. Technically, ABR and IV would both be investigative, but their roles synergize so...
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Post Post #1267 (isolation #50) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:40 am

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That's the opposite of what he is saying.
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #51) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:18 pm

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Why do you think me not having a presence was scummy?
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Post Post #1442 (isolation #52) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:23 pm

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Ok, can you get more specific? I don't think peta's ISO really shows presence(except when I tried to tryhard in the first 2 days of Smoke). I'm typically more laid back.
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Post Post #1476 (isolation #53) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:10 pm

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In post 1472, Gamma Emerald wrote:I tried to SAVE you in Xenoblade 2, and this is the thanks I get?
Will catch up later, but I'm hoping this is some sort of weird joke.
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Post Post #1685 (isolation #54) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:00 am

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In post 1559, Datisi wrote:he was so obvtownie he got shot n1
lol that's not why I got shot, and I don't really play like that anymore
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Post Post #1686 (isolation #55) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:01 am

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Almost like you're just straight up confbiasing at this point and using whatever you can to call me scummy. I'm not used to this, but I'll deal.
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Post Post #1688 (isolation #56) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:04 am

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In post 1561, Iconeum wrote:@Midway, how did you go from
I don't think the quotes you pulled really show a 180. Sure, I went from a light townread to suspicion, but the reasons weren't really related. I just thought that his early posting was quite exaggerated until Datisi told me that it was normal for him. I'm not sure how/why he wanted me to follow up.
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Post Post #1689 (isolation #57) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:09 am

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In post 1687, Datisi wrote:i remember seeing scum!koba put a veto on you in chosen mafia

anyway you still haven't answered my question of what are your reads?
I read the scum PT, and koba vetoed me because they would feel bad pushing me or something. Idk, but I'm not sure if that was because they think I could obv town and stuff, but I've mostly dropped that play in games.

I haven't really been thinking of whole game reads, and I'm trying to think about the current claims. Both ABR and Cakez are very scummy while IV is sorta just floating around. I'm not sure what to make of that. Outside of these claims I'm townreading Noraa and petapan.
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Post Post #1691 (isolation #58) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:11 am

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In post 1687, Datisi wrote:ooooooh spicey
tell me more
Well, I was nightkilled because joqiza had that theory that I was the cop. Ring a bell? :lol:
I'm not sure how I should be reading you based off that, but your arguments are starting to get reachy.
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Post Post #1692 (isolation #59) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:13 am

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In post 1690, Noraa wrote:Im surprised.
Didn't you SR me a while ago or was that peta?
I don't remember, but even so, my reads are pretty fluid early on until I can lock onto some reads I feel good about.
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Post Post #1694 (isolation #60) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:17 am

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I don't have a hard stance on you yet.
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Post Post #1788 (isolation #61) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:39 am

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That’s not how you talk someone out of scum reading you.
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Post Post #1887 (isolation #62) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:44 pm

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In post 1876, Datisi wrote:it's a random pop in after 5 hours of not posting that doesn't progress the game at all

interested in any and all takes regarding that
ok, so why would I make that post as scum?
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #63) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:52 pm

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You seem pretty natural and your stances seem ok
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Post Post #1891 (isolation #64) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:08 pm

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I mean that I don't dislike any of them.
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Post Post #1894 (isolation #65) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:16 pm

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In post 1853, petapan wrote:meh, like...trying not to let AtE roll me over anymore and affect my decision-making, because i always get it wrong determining whether it's real or fake, but...i'm not sure nora lights her house on fire for no reason as scum here.
Why are you seemingly ignoring Cakez ATE compared to Noraa? Is there a difference to you? I'm agreeing with the general sentiment here though.
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Post Post #1895 (isolation #66) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:17 pm

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In general, I feel like his stances have been likely to come from town. I can look for specifics.
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Post Post #1897 (isolation #67) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:32 pm

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Well, momentum did seem to be shifting towards Noraa. I think you made some good observations specifically in your catch up and I think I'm townreading your indecisive attitude. I feel like you would try to take more control as scum.
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Post Post #1898 (isolation #68) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:36 pm

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Also, did anyone else find Ico's opening a little weird? It seemed like he was exaggerating how much he missed, but I'm not sure.
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Post Post #1900 (isolation #69) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:41 pm

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Also, I like his mechanics confusion. It didn't seem fake to me, and he would probably be more understanding as mafia.
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Post Post #1903 (isolation #70) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:44 pm

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In post 1312, petapan wrote:yeah i don't see abr faking a role like that, none of the oldies would know to do it
This is a good read by him and fits in with his confusion.
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Post Post #1905 (isolation #71) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:46 pm

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That doesn't really change anything for me?
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Post Post #2039 (isolation #72) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:29 am

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Sure, I’m still town reading the Dunnstral slot, but it’s more tentative. I can’t read ATE very well.
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Post Post #2048 (isolation #73) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:49 am

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In post 2041, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2040, Dunnstral wrote:I half expected to get vig shot so didn't read much
We haven't seen a vig yet...why'd you expect that?
Maybe just because perception of his slot EoD wasn't too hot.
In post 2042, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2039, midwaybear wrote:Sure, I’m still town reading the Dunnstral slot, but it’s more tentative. I can’t read ATE very well.
Thoughts on who is scum now that we have seen Cakez flip?
I'm townreading Dunn and peta. I'm very tentatively calling ABR and IV town with IV above ABR in terms of confidence. I'm working in the pool of {VPB, DV, Ico, Gamma}.
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Post Post #2051 (isolation #74) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:59 am

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Based on mechanics, I don't think that they necessarily look bad. I think a mass claim would be a solid idea today. My tentative reads are more based off of things I don't think they would pursue as scum. First of all, ABR blowing up at IV in the middle of the day looked genuine and unlikely to be s/s. I also think ABR hard pushing Cakez is a really interesting play as scum. The thing in the middle where he backed down for a bit seemed genuine, and I feel like he would maintain an aggro mentality as scum? IV is definitely more confident then ABR. I don't think IV would have a fun time playing so self aware, and I think he genuinely is out of his scum range. Also, I don't think he publicly calls Cakez as gut town. I would expect scum to go with gut scum, and I do think town indecision is a thing.
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Post Post #2054 (isolation #75) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:05 am

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Spoiler:
In post 1810, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Datisi help. I'm hesitating. I don't want to lose friends :(
In post 1812, Albert B. Rampage wrote:what should I do
In post 1813, Albert B. Rampage wrote:It's morally wrong to dangle people on the precipice like this for so long and really demotivating and frustrating. You are really stalling this game for no good reason. Help me make a decision and we will end this toxic day.
In post 1815, Albert B. Rampage wrote:but... you have the speedrunner tag for best marathon player... this is nothing

Mostly this string of posts which I think came before IV's fake hammer. I don't really think it's necessary for him to say this as scum when he can just call out Cakez for ATEing and continue to aggressively push. There was also a similar moment with Noraa, but I don't find that as AI.
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Post Post #2055 (isolation #76) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:07 am

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I've never played with Albert as scum before, so I'm wondering if you've seen anything similar.
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Post Post #2058 (isolation #77) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:17 am

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That's fair. I guess I would have just found him continuously pushing Cakez to be more scummy than what he did here. Now, I'm seeing his posts after the hammer and they seem pretty genuine.
In post 1919, Albert B. Rampage wrote:VOTE: Cakez

Ok... this is so high stakes i dont want to be wrong :(
Although voting Cakez was not great, I understand the feeling of dedicating so much to a push that it almost clouds your judgement. I might be overshooting how AI these posts are, but for some reason I really want to townread ABR here.
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Post Post #2060 (isolation #78) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:21 am

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I dunno maybe there is a scum roleblocker with a backup town roleblocker. Well, if ABR, IV, and Cakez are all town, scum definitely have some ability that allows them to mitigate any investigative effects.
Or they are just trying to frame him.
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Post Post #2066 (isolation #79) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:54 am

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In post 2064, VP Baltar wrote:Thoughts on order?
Personally, maybe something like DV-Gamma-Ico-VPB-dunn-peta-me.
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Post Post #2145 (isolation #80) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:29 am

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I'm pretty sure IV has been faking his posts for some reason. As to why, I'm not really sure. I don't think it's scummy though.
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Post Post #2148 (isolation #81) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:32 am

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Yes, because it is very obvious. I remember him doing something similar in 2160 where he faked a scumslip for no reason. I feel like this is just town!IV trying to have some fun, and I don't think it is necessary for him to do as scum.
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Post Post #2149 (isolation #82) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:35 am

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I can see IV as scum trolling initially, but I don't think he ever continues the act for this long given that everyone was scumreading him.
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Post Post #2152 (isolation #83) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:38 am

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No, he was town trolling.
Also, why are we letting VPB dictate claiming order? I don't necessarily think it's that important, but I'm wondering why people are townreading him. I find his posts merely pleasant, but there's nothing that is townie.
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Post Post #2153 (isolation #84) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:42 am

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Oh, I mean 2163 where he fake scumslipped. Yeah, he scumclaimed initially in 2160, but he stopped doing that after a bit. I also don't think he would be bold enough to do such a thing after admitting to it.
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Post Post #2157 (isolation #85) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:20 am

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interesting
I'm VT(again)
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #86) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:53 am

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I think he is talking about the video game? I'm not sure if there is a mafia game.
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #87) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:55 am

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ABR looks like he has given up.
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Post Post #2262 (isolation #88) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:09 am

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ABR, Gamma, DV
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Post Post #2263 (isolation #89) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:14 am

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I have a theory that ABR's last two buddies are not being suspected, but that is more gut based. Your call is as good as mine.
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Post Post #2265 (isolation #90) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:35 am

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It is mostly based off of him saccing today. Perhaps the scum plan was to have ABR cause chaos as long as he could, and then the remaining members clean things up. I'll probably look into this more.
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Post Post #2294 (isolation #91) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:17 pm

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In post 2292, Dunnstral wrote:I think they're a little obvious as scum now that I think of it, so more likely to be town here
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Post Post #2303 (isolation #92) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:46 pm

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You've never even explained why you found my posts scummy. I don't think you're able to read me super well anyways.
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Post Post #2305 (isolation #93) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:51 pm

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I don't remember you ever explaining beyond "it just is", and the last time we were both town well...
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Post Post #2307 (isolation #94) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:00 pm

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Oh I forgot Xenoblade. I was thinking of SFA, but I do remember you townreading me. I can see how the content of my posts looked sparse, but I was making reads and all of that. This game went at an unnatural pace, so I feel like you also have to take that into consideration. I'm also skeptical of you scumreading me for asking you why you were doing so. That seemed too aggro.
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Post Post #2385 (isolation #95) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:23 am

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Looks like ABR isn't conf scum?
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Post Post #2388 (isolation #96) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:26 am

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Yeah, I'm not saying he is town, but the whole friendly neighbor fiasco apparently was real?
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Post Post #2390 (isolation #97) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:29 am

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I pretty much agree with the sentiment in 2384
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Post Post #2392 (isolation #98) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:31 am

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I don't think this is a similar situation?
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Post Post #2395 (isolation #99) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:37 am

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My game hasn't changed much from Illicit substances. I'm town here because I probably would have voted ABR by now regardless of his alignment.
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Post Post #2406 (isolation #100) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:47 am

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I'm not really obvtown. It's just that it is obvious when I am scum.
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Post Post #2449 (isolation #101) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:17 pm

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I'm not sure what to do and deadline seems to be near. I'd prefer to hit scum today.
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Post Post #2455 (isolation #102) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:20 pm

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That would probably be my solve if ABR is town. But that is what I'm conflicted on.
DV seems obviously scummy at this point. We could wagon him, but I also want to feel good on my read of ABR.
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Post Post #2458 (isolation #103) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:22 pm

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If we have a POE of 4, isn't the game solved at this point?
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Post Post #2461 (isolation #104) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:25 pm

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I actually don't think scum have needed to control the game at all.
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Post Post #2465 (isolation #105) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:28 pm

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Man, I think DV is scum, but I really hope I'm not getting fooled by the bigger fish. Regardless,
VOTE: DV
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Post Post #2712 (isolation #106) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:33 am

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Time to clutch up I guess.
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Post Post #2713 (isolation #107) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:36 am

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I'm pretty sure DV just flips red.
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Post Post #2715 (isolation #108) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:39 am

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He has been pushing scum agenda whole game, and no one townreads him
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Post Post #2718 (isolation #109) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:47 am

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The bottom of his reads have been mostly town like Dunn pointed out. His vote on ABR was very bad.
I think he is being bussed by his buddies who are probably Gamma, Ico. DV should go first though.
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Post Post #2719 (isolation #110) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:49 am

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Also, having more PRs than VTs is sorta crazy.
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Post Post #2733 (isolation #111) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:22 am

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Gamma isn't even trying to look townie anymore.
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Post Post #2746 (isolation #112) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:21 am

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Can you make your scum theater more convincing?
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Post Post #2752 (isolation #113) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:31 pm

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It seems like Gamma and DV are putting it all on the table today and their contingency plan is f3 with me vs Ico.
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Post Post #2757 (isolation #114) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:58 pm

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In post 2754, petapan wrote:what's this supposed to mean, exactly?
I mean, it seems pretty clear that they are just doing some funny fake interactions.
DV: Why do you townread me?
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Post Post #2758 (isolation #115) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:01 pm

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In post 2755, petapan wrote:doing that iso i should have been doing...midway, was there ever an explanation for why you townread noraa?
I don't remember, but her anger seemed genuine. Dunn has been ok.
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Post Post #2805 (isolation #116) » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:09 am

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In post 2760, petapan wrote:you read her as town before she got angry, though. and it seems a fairly shallow read to be holding onto at lylo.
I know that my read on Dunn is not that good, but his actions don't really seem to tilt me one way or the other. I also think if you find a solid reason to townread someone, you can keep it. Noraa's anger seemed real, and if I also had other reasons to townread her, then I don't have any reason to feel too unconfident about Dunn here.
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Post Post #2806 (isolation #117) » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:11 am

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In post 2772, Iconeum wrote:you think i'm gonna be bussing both of my teammates here, instead of working on a town flip and just win the game in scum!Ico world?
Your teammates are working on the town flip, and you are the backup plan.
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Post Post #2816 (isolation #118) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:06 am

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idk what to really say or do at this point. I'm ready to vote.
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Post Post #2818 (isolation #119) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:39 pm

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Probably Gamma given that he seems to be the widely scumread one now
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Post Post #2932 (isolation #120) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:00 am

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Mmm ok. I'm still leaning towards Gamma, but I'll skim through ISOs
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Post Post #3074 (isolation #121) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:08 am

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Ahhh
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Post Post #3079 (isolation #122) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:12 am

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I think I vote gamma here most of the time, but I want to be more sure
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Post Post #3081 (isolation #123) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:13 am

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Good luck
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Post Post #3087 (isolation #124) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:13 am

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In post 3085, petapan wrote:i'm sorry everyone
Why?
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Post Post #3096 (isolation #125) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:16 am

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Huh
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Post Post #3118 (isolation #126) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:36 am

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Thanks for the carry
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Post Post #3121 (isolation #127) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:38 am

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In post 3117, VP Baltar wrote:I blocked scum every night and it had zero effect on the game.
This was pretty crazy :)
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Post Post #3133 (isolation #128) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:45 am

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I don’t have access to the dead thread?
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