Mini Normal 2257: Polish Rap | Game Over

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VOTE: Greeting for the weird defensive tunnel.

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I've made up my mind and I'm actually not going to hammer nor self-vote this game. The information that my flip will give will be much less valuable than a townie gone.

Do not hammer before claim but I really don't get the "I won't self-hammer" thing

It's a thing I sometimes do if I think is beneficial to town. But this time it really isn't. Sure, I've no power role so a loss of a VT wouldn't hurt that much, but I've paid close attention to the way this wagon went and it'll be hard to weed out potential scum from the naked votes thrown at me like dollars at a pole dancer.

Plus, even in spite the fact that I'm on E-1, I will not share any reads since I do not think my reads will be good enough and I'd rather not have anyone rallying around them.

Methinks I smell a contradiction. Your flip is much less valuable than "a townie gone", and yet you claim to be a VT and not a power role. Care to elaborate?

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Thoughts:
- Scorpious seems town.
- No idea about Ahri yet.
- There's probably 3 mafia members.
- Dwlee is a mafia doctor lets gooo VOTE: Dwlee99

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Google normal roles

Holy hell!

Roles explicitly normal for any alignment include doctors. I dunno bud, I made a guess off limited info and I have a night result that says you're definitely hiding something.

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What info would this be perchance?

Non-vanilla. There, you have a clue as to what roles you can safely claim without being caught out.

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Google normal roles

Holy hell!

Roles explicitly normal for any alignment include doctors. I dunno bud, I made a guess off limited info and I have a night result that says you're definitely hiding something.

Not really digging this scaling back of the accusation. Last time is was defenitive, now you’re “making guesses off of limited info” and the less urgent “hiding something”

Mister, no-one takes you seriously if you start pushing a wagon with "well I have a hunch". I'm certain that Dwlee's scum. Since they've now claimed VT, I'll explain.

I have a complex modifier. Unless I've misunderstood things, I should not have gotten anything back last night if they were a VT. I didn't townread them, as their Greeting vote felt opportunistic and I don't like lurkers (yes yes hypocritical i know), so I decided to gamble on them being mafia and set a trap. Their response seems fairly damning.

So there are a couple options here.
1) They're a mafia traitor who knows there isn't a doctor working for the mafia.
2) They're a town-aligned PR under the mistaken impression that scum-aligned docs are non-normal.
3) I have misunderstood my role or there's been a mod error.

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Eh, fine. 2-shot complex gunsmith. Result was "no gun".

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UNVOTE:

Turns out I don't have a complex modifier and without that the theory has no basis. Without a contradictory role claim, Dwlee gets a townread for their response.

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Quiet Owl,

What is your mafia experience?

Couple words is fine, have you played many games?

Not counting a marathon game, this is my third. Uncertain how this is relevant.

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On reread: I think I missed that the idea was to spring a trap and see if I'd claim VT? But also why gamble when >90% of scenarios a no gun result is just town?

I mean you’re still claiming VT so it doesn’t matter how we got here.

Mafia is Scorp/Butter/Dwlee. If Owl is lying we just lim him tomorrow. Town should realize a 1 for 1 trade is a good thing, especially if it’s a VT.

Why are you scumreading butterchurn?

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Going to vote Fua after Ahri gets back. Don't want to risk Fua being flash wagoned and then Ahri dying in the night before we get to hear what she has to say.

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Suspect scum would be the ones trying to distance themselves from the Greeting wagon. Will go re-read to find who those were.

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V/LA effective immediately, ending 11am EST 1/24

I am really, really, sorry; I'll try to post tomorrow if I can; I severely, severely sr Scorpious but please don't lim him before I'm back, I have important information to share with town.

Also Capo is town btw.

So what's the important information?

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Why is Scorpious a wagon at all at the moment. Fua was still trying to push a wagon after everyone realised there was no basis behind it. The only reason so far to suspect Scorpious is a """investigative""" claim that's heavily using appeal to emotion.

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As much as I hate enchant and gera sometimes I just think that scum is butter, jeff, and owl but idk.

fite me

It'd at least produce some content to analyse, instead of trying to make something out of this eeny-meeny-miny-mo fingerpointing game.

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Iso for both Enchant and capo22 is tiny and has very little content of substance in it. VOTE: Enchant

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what do you think of Jeff town reading that slot?

Doesn't make sense. Didn't see anything that stood out as town positive from them.
Have a vague memory of someone suggesting in an older game that scum should hide their partners in their town reads rather than their null/scum, but don't feel very confident about Jeff being scum.