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So we should have pressured because of the Ari wagon? I don't even remember who started that tbh. Did you look up who was pressuring Ari? Curious if you have particular people in mindIn post 4013, MalcolmTucker wrote:
Ari's slot was under heavy pressure day one but that basically died out right after the replacement. Which can basically apply to about half the game now.In post 3997, VP Baltar wrote:
Let's assume April's case against you is incorrect, why should that automatically mean town should be pressuring April?In post 3806, MalcolmTucker wrote:Like why is April's slot under so little pressure? It was heavily pushed on day one, Ari left the game, April came in, argued they weren't mafia based on their lack of posting, despite being a replace-in, then accused me and admitted they had no clue as to what was actually going on in the game while doing so, and yet has stuck to that wagon since. It's just such a nonsense case and it's ridiculous town are even contemplating it at the moment.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Enchant is the claimed vig. Previously fuaIn post 4035, Titus wrote:
Wait what? I never claimed vig.In post 4033, Eyes without a face wrote:one is a CLAIMED VIGYOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Scum tearsIn post 4040, Frogsterking wrote:I'm worried shinier topics are going to distract from the VP wagon.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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What do you mean by vanity wagon?In post 4040, Frogsterking wrote:HEM was pretty vocal about sortng Yeet and even joined my vanity wagon for a little whileYOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Nah, I'm not trying to convince you right now. You made it clear long ago that you've hitched your wagon to fire. That's fine, not my problem. I'm not going to try to convince you you're wrong when everything I say, both of you come in to defend the other.In post 4054, DeasVail wrote:If VP is town, I believe he would expect that ultimately I would come to see this. But the dismissal of me and lack of attempt to show me the light does not match with this. I think VP is playing more like scum, who has written me off as someone who will continue scumreading him, and is focusing on maintaining his existing allies for survival.
Town will flip fire eventually and then you can explain.
As far as survival, hardly. If anything I've leaned into my lim. I know what my flip is and I know by directly attacking the scummiest people on my wagon to get them to slip up (as happened with fire), that my flip becomes much more powerful for town. If I happen to live today, it's not because I'm out here begging and pleading to not be yeeted, it's because town can recognize what I'm doing. The arguments for my wagon have always been weak and amorphous, but scum want to ride that shit into the dirt I guess.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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I talk about everyone on my wagon and why they do or do not look scummy in 3760. You also have Fire's unintelligible claim that it is "decently likely" im scum with Malcom, but he abandons my much larger wagon because he said at the time he didn't think it was likely to happen (which makes no sense if you're leaving for an even smaller wagon with minimal momentum).In post 4110, tenebrousluminary wrote:
What is the case against Fire, since you insist cases are mandatory?In post 4106, VP Baltar wrote:
Get on this fire wagon.In post 4102, Enchant wrote:Let's flashwagon someone else.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Why are you even asking me questions if youre going to have bad faith arguments that are not even remotely accurate? Please stop wasting my time if you're conf biased or scum.In post 4115, tenebrousluminary wrote:He is scum, so that's less surprising.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Yep. Your bad semantics based responses are all in thread for anyone to read.In post 4118, fireisredsir wrote:yea except i never said that my leaving had anything to do with me thinking yours wasn't likely to happen lol. we've been over thisYOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Incorrect. Keep shading though.In post 4120, fireisredsir wrote:5) VP kinda flips out and starts making repeated logical and comprehension errors
This is all in the thread and easy to read. Don't know what you think propaganda like this achieves.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Lol yeah, you and Nero shading me for an answer to your question that I did not give is certainly good faith on your part.In post 4122, tenebrousluminary wrote:
What bad faith argument did I make? If you have been mischaracterized, you should be upset with Nero, not me.In post 4117, VP Baltar wrote:
Why are you even asking me questions if youre going to have bad faith arguments that are not even remotely accurate? Please stop wasting my time if you're conf biased or scum.In post 4115, tenebrousluminary wrote:He is scum, so that's less surprising.
I was typing up a response to you, but ya had to get some shade in there before you even heard the answer.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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@tene - you're merely proving my point that this is an argument in bad faithIn post 4116, VP Baltar wrote:
I talk about everyone on my wagon and why they do or do not look scummy in 3760. You also have Fire's unintelligible claim that it is "decently likely" im scum with Malcom, but he abandons my much larger wagon because he said at the time he didn't think it was likely to happen (which makes no sense if you're leaving for an even smaller wagon with minimal momentum).In post 4110, tenebrousluminary wrote:
What is the case against Fire, since you insist cases are mandatory?In post 4106, VP Baltar wrote:
Get on this fire wagon.In post 4102, Enchant wrote:Let's flashwagon someone else.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Yeah, if town, you're very bad at this game, but I keep trying, so...In post 4135, tenebrousluminary wrote:Oh jesus that "decently likely" thing? That was such weak shit. I'm actually laughing irl that that's your brilliant case.
I won't deny that I am absolutely arguing in bad faith here. You're scum and others need to see it.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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In post 3998, VP Baltar wrote:Ok, my general thought on the Malcom case after review: I think April is presenting a view of the game that makes some sense, but is largely dependent on a tene!town read. What I did like is that I'm seeing logical consistency from April as to why she is pushing it (also helps explain her Frogster town read), and if correct there is good potential to shift the dynamics of the game in a clearer scumhunting direction.
It's definitely not a slam dunk case, and parts of it are reaching over semantics ("actual evidence") than I probably would do. April, of course, is already admitting it isn't a slam dunk.
I may be willing to support April here given I do think the upside is significant. My hesitation is that I do think fire is much more likely to be scum, and his bail off of me at E-2 and onto Malcom is weird if you think of them as S-S.
@ cape, I reviewed April's case yesterday and here is where I landed on it. I don't think he is more scummy than Fire, but there is a worldview where April is right and I'm not opposed to taking that chance. Not my preference today, but will help/am open to convincing.In post 3997, VP Baltar wrote:
Let's assume April's case against you is incorrect, why should that automatically mean town should be pressuring April?In post 3806, MalcolmTucker wrote:Like why is April's slot under so little pressure? It was heavily pushed on day one, Ari left the game, April came in, argued they weren't mafia based on their lack of posting, despite being a replace-in, then accused me and admitted they had no clue as to what was actually going on in the game while doing so, and yet has stuck to that wagon since. It's just such a nonsense case and it's ridiculous town are even contemplating it at the moment.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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It's not a representation. It's very basic reading of your logical consistency and motivations. The only people actively against what I said are you same jabronis who claim every word I say is scum. When people are ready to consider fire scum, they will see what I'm saying. I don't need to beat a dead horse to be right.In post 4146, fireisredsir wrote:
has anyone agreed with your representation of events?In post 4123, VP Baltar wrote:
Incorrect. Keep shading though.In post 4120, fireisredsir wrote:5) VP kinda flips out and starts making repeated logical and comprehension errors
This is all in the thread and easy to read. Don't know what you think propaganda like this achieves.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Thanks for the birthday wishes.In post 4148, Titus wrote:
This type of attitude from VP is annoying.In post 4142, tenebrousluminary wrote:
Neg me harder.In post 4139, VP Baltar wrote:
Yeah, if town, you're very bad at this game, but I keep trying, so...In post 4135, tenebrousluminary wrote:Oh jesus that "decently likely" thing? That was such weak shit. I'm actually laughing irl that that's your brilliant case.
I won't deny that I am absolutely arguing in bad faith here. You're scum and others need to see it.
As far as my attitude, that's NAI. I dont play soft with people who are intentionally acting with bad faith toward me and taking cheap shots for dozens of pages. I'm sure out of context, I look like the asshole here, but I assure you it has been earned.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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I agree with this.In post 4166, Titus wrote:I feel like the social groups of this game are weird. The game has devolved into camps, which likely isn't good.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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I will vote Malcom or scorpious here soon since no one is joining the fire wagon. Kind of want to give them another day or two here to prove towniness.In post 4179, MathBlade wrote:Put another way a majority of the game TRs VP and a majority of the game TRs Scorpious
So by numbers they aren’t happening.
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Malcom and scorpious. Malcom has a few outstanding questions and things to respond to. Scorpious has been catching up since....forever. Neither is my top choice for a lim, but I'm not going to get what I want today and I need to move my vote to a more useful place.In post 4181, Frogsterking wrote:
Give who time to prove towniness?In post 4180, VP Baltar wrote:
I will vote Malcom or scorpious here soon since no one is joining the fire wagon. Kind of want to give them another day or two here to prove towniness.In post 4179, MathBlade wrote:Put another way a majority of the game TRs VP and a majority of the game TRs Scorpious
So by numbers they aren’t happening.
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What does flipping me have to do with galron?In post 4204, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: VP
Nope. Now I kinda want VP since Galron is pinging me hard.
My meta the past few posts has been extremely different from prior games he has seen me in so I suspect that was coached which means I am doing what scum want so VP needs to go even though I personally TR him
Regardless of flip Galron needs to die.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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I don't think math is wrong about this. Weird to say you saw math confirmed town and then posted a town case. I'll check timestamps on this later...In post 4222, MathBlade wrote:Because if you were informed I was a mason before making that post then there’s no reason to put out a town read on me because conf town.
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VOTE: malcom
I think it's me, Malcom or Scorp today. After taking some time to deliberate, Scorp is kind of a low info yeet. I'm still not sold on Malcom, but I think it's a flip that will help illuminate April's alignment more clearly, and that is good for the game long term.
No offense if it ends up being me today, just consider my reads seriously when I'm dead if that is the case.
Pedit- Nero remains the biggest village idiot in this game. I stated in the hood that those are the only reasonable yeets and he comes into thread to state it like he isn't regurgitating my thoughts as his own.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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This is wildly inaccurate and cherry picked. My position in scum in the hood has always been that's more likely than not the case. I call you a village idiot because it is unlikely any scum would be so obviously wrong on things that are quite easy to fact check. As I just stated to you in the hood, I would like to stop having this same conversation with you repeatedly. I don't think it is productive and youve done more than your share to bloat this game.In post 4241, Nero Cain wrote:I think his language in the hood is kinda funky. He started out saying that "anyone reasonable would think there's scum here." but more recently has used "potential scum" and at one point said something like "because Nero thinks there's scum here." and it just feels like he's trying to straddle the fence between looking like he's uninformed and being informed idk.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Who are you trying to fool with this? Titus and galron most likely since they were not here I guess. I'm being run up because 'boo hoo vp is so mean and calling people scum with his so many misreps, etc,' but I'm also reserved and timid I guess?In post 4242, Nero Cain wrote:he was yelling and screaming for a Wu lim and now he's just kinda reserved.
Like I said, you are running a marketing campaign rather than actually scum hunting. You've wasted so much of the town's time today with a nonsense wagon on me, and you should do some self reflection if youre town, but you won't.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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So you think all these people are scum?In post 4244, tenebrousluminary wrote:Vig Dragons, Titus, Galron, or the survivor of Malc/VP if they flip town.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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As I've stated, people are being lazy. You've led a town wagon. Congrats. You're big smart.In post 4251, Nero Cain wrote:must be doing a halfway decent job if you are the leading wagon. Kinda funny that you were blasting me earlier for not being able to build a wagon on you.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Problem with this game is there are too many people playing anti-town. Plain and simple. We can't even vig our way out of it.
Best thing we can do is for the town folks who are reading the game more accurately to find each other, bloc up, and drag the weaker players to victory. The sad thing is my town flip would help with this.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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What info does a Dragons vig provide?In post 4254, tenebrousluminary wrote:
No, but I don't townread them and I think they'd provide some info.In post 4247, VP Baltar wrote:
So you think all these people are scum?In post 4244, tenebrousluminary wrote:Vig Dragons, Titus, Galron, or the survivor of Malc/VP if they flip town.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Math is saying that Galron gave a "town" read on Math so Galron would look like he has accurate and good reads this game. Math is alleging that Galron already knew Math was a mason (something galron seemingly confirmed?).In post 4256, tenebrousluminary wrote:
Explain how it's a scumslip like I'm 5? I see the inconsistency but it seems like such a silly mistake, idk.In post 4248, MathBlade wrote:My last wish is deaths in this order regardless of VP’s flip
1) Galron. Dude scumslipped and faked reads and it’s freakin obvious. Skitter30 also had a tell of pings.
2) April. April needs death. The fact they haven’t got an elim off at this point and Ari’s defense of Galron is bad AF
3) Titus unless she pushes a scum elim fast. As I said there was a scum in Datisi/Wu
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Wouldn't vigging scorpion provide that information much more directly?In post 4257, tenebrousluminary wrote:I'd love to know why Scorp is always pushed instead of him.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Idk on the validity of the vig, but agree with you that it is unlikely we get an actual result, so it is definitely a whatever conversationIn post 4263, tenebrousluminary wrote:Not that any of this matters since the vig is either blocked or fake. Leaning towards fake. Why are we even talking about this?YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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This isn't an entirely terrible point either. Hrm.In post 4260, Save The Dragons wrote:i don't see why scum would try so hard to get a nothingburger slot limmed over one of the two wagons people postingYOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Not listing so many people off and drawing so much attention to myself. I probably would have played nice with Nero earlier and wouldn't have opened the day in a very aggressive manner. I'd be calling town players who are on the wrong track smart and be playing with my long term survivability in mind.In post 4268, Yeet wrote:VP what would you be doing differently if you were scum this game?YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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No. Math was suspicious of skitter before and he thinks galron made a TMI error, which happens all the time to scum.In post 4274, tenebrousluminary wrote:It seems like the case is basically that Galron is stupid then?YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Ok, so I checked the timestamps and what Galron is saying does check out, at least chronologically.
I told galron at 9:38am (my time) that Math was a mason.
At 9:52 am, galron posts his Math "looks like he is town".
I think if you're being generous to galron, that could read as him lumping a bunch of ideas together into a single post. In that case, he would be saying something like 'I read the last few pages, here is what I think, oh and regardless Math is town.'
You could also interpret that post as galron trying to give a town read of Math for town points, but my thought would probably just leave it in the NAI bin since we can't know for sure.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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EBWOP (ie, fuck you autocorrect)
In post 4276, VP Baltar wrote:
NotIn post 4268, Yeet wrote:VP what would you be doing differently if you were scum this game?pissingso many people off and drawing so much attention to myself. I probably would have played nice with Nero earlier and wouldn't have opened the day in a very aggressive manner. I'd be calling town players who are on the wrong track smart and be playing with my long term survivability in mind.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Seems like we flip Malcom first in that scenario, right? A Malcom scum flip probably makes you look better and gives April big credit.In post 4292, fireisredsir wrote:ok paranoid thought but what if it's cape and the reason he was hard scumreading VP but then lost interest when the wagon picked up is cause he doesn't actually want the flip cause that narrows down the hood. cape/malcolm seems very compelling to me tbhYOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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There is a point where you need to care more about your social game as scum than you do as town, generally speaking.In post 4300, DeasVail wrote:I'm not bothered enough to look back and fact check this, but I recall VP not long ago saying that the aggressive play was NAI?
(Also if scum he's not going to say that people trying to elim him are smart)YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Just follow my reads if I flip town. Scum wanted me dead for a reason. I think Nero will also deserve scrutiny if yall end up feeling that cape and skitter are town later.In post 4295, MalcolmTucker wrote:But I do worry how much we'll actually find out if VP comes back town post-elimination.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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I already voted Malcom.In post 4299, DeasVail wrote:At least as of this post, remains fence-sitting re: Malcolm, probably hesitant to opportunistically switch wagons but also not wanting to close it off as an opportunity.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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This is what scum pocketing Math looks like btw. He would be the number one person I'd try to pocket if I was scum and I would definitely keep him alive for awhile.In post 4324, fireisredsir wrote:ok yea i wasn't really that convinced of that being a slip, but you're right that VP's interpretation there is extremely generous to galronYOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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The big scum giveaway for fire is that he hasn't had any original ideas since like D1. He is clearly very smart, and smart people take actions outside the safety of what's popular. I could write a whole case about that, but I doubt that is worth my time at this point because the wagon isn't going to flip. When I'm dead, look at that very closely.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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This is what I mean. You're not really pushing people that don't have other people pushing harder. It gives you coverIn post 4380, fireisredsir wrote:if you mean "hasn't suspected anyone that hasn't already been suspected", then uh maybe thats cause everyone has been suspected at this pointYOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Didn't you just say this about scorpious too?In post 4397, MathBlade wrote:
If VP wasn’t scum he’d have been hammered by now.In post 4396, fireisredsir wrote:
i did and now i am doubting that. why am i perpetually paralyzed by self-doubt and indecision? idk i can't afford a therapist ill get back to you in 5 or 6 yearsIn post 4394, Yeet wrote:Why are you doubting yourself immensely
Don’t you think scum is in the wagonsYOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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if you want to win, yes.In post 4413, fireisredsir wrote:is scum required to pocket?
Tene, I think you and Nero are doing far more shading this game than I am doing. I'm sure there are times I've taking attacks too far out of annoyance, but everything I've said is rooted in very specific examples.
Nero tried to get me modkilled for crying out loud. You can't say I'm playing dirty pool here because I'm just not.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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I don't see how that's remotely shading. Also, you can't shade confirmed town. That's just a ridiculous thing to say.In post 4416, tenebrousluminary wrote:
Yes, just look up. 4404In post 4415, Titus wrote:Can you give an example tene?YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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I'm not particularly sold on you being scum. Also, I think my yeet will be more informative than yours (I know you hold the opposite view, but I've been a topic of discussion for much longer and people have way over committed to wanting me dead). I don't mind dying here today, and think you should probably just vote me if you're going to. I just want people to actually listen to what I'm saying after I'm dead and stop the level of anti-town play that's being allowed to take place this game.In post 4429, MalcolmTucker wrote:
As someone who's long thought you were probably mafia, the fact you're not particularly pushing me all that hard right now when it'd be the most beneficial thing for you to do is making me have second thoughts a bit. But could be clever play - make people view you as townie by not targeting someone you haven't suspected all that much.In post 4425, VP Baltar wrote:After I'm dead, if I was scumhunting in the hood, I'd kill Galron first, then Nero, in that order btw.
Also, y'all need to sideline Nero in either case. He's tanking the game for town regardless of alignment and too many people, possibly scum, are encouraging that.
If it was turn one Galron would be a good candidate right now. Their play is not giving out good vibes so far in the slightest.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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if that's the scum team, I'm not the one playing shitty there. They are defending me for town cred because of your bad play and the people sheeping you.In post 4453, Nero Cain wrote:my only other thought is someone like an Eyes , Yeet, Galron, Titus scumteam has a vested interest in keeping a poorly playing VP alive so I continue to tunnel him instead of switching my focus to them.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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I think galron is more likely to flip scum based on his flaky play since coming into the game, and I don't think two scum in the hood, so that would make you town.In post 4461, Cape90 wrote:
Front half? I am town now?In post 4455, VP Baltar wrote:front half of this wagon is good, back half is shifty, but this seems more likely to hit scum than Malcom flip.YOUR AD HERE - VP Baltar
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