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Save the Dragons is also town.

woo hoo!

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Town
Frogsterking
Nero Cain
DeasVail
fua
fireisredsir
VP Baltar
Yeet

Null
Scorpious
MalcolmTucker
Datisi
skitter30
Eyes without a face
Aristeia
Cape90
Nordom
GeneralWu

Scum
tenebrousluminary
humaneatingmonkey

VOTE: tenebro

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STD has Wu as the 3rd scummist

my list isn't ordered my bad

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STD has Wu as the 3rd scummist

my list isn't ordered my bad

Would you like to explain any of your opinions, Sir Knight?

haha

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Could you at least explain why you want to extinguish my beautiful light, Sir Knight?

It is difficult to assess the motivations of votes against me, as Mx. Oboro says I must, if no motivation is provided.

i want pressure on you mostly, it's a gut read and i want to see how you respond

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VOTE: eyes without a face

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as a gay man,

i feel that phrases like "butt-buddies" is meant to put me down, to make gay people feel lesser. i don't deserve that.

so no. it is not acceptable and i do not need to get a thicker skin. please do not continue down this path. thank you.

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anyway.

nordom is town for his interaction with deasvail but i think DV is also town for looking at eyes without a face with suspicion.

datisi i'm leaning town on, i'm not sure what the case on him is, i don't quite understand it

i want ari to speak more, but i thought between HEM and Ari, ari looked worse, which is a change from my previous read of HEM being bad. I think I want to VOTE: Aristeia for now.

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i will enjoy playing with your replacement.

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Hey this is a spicy take, can you elaborate a bit on why you find ari worse than hem?

at first i was like HEM's "lol" post looked like deflection

but then when i saw the arguments recently, i thought ari was being a little unreasonable. i felt HEM asking for elaboration on the entire list was fine while Ari said things like "pick one" which seems like a way of saying "ha you didn't do what i asked you to do, you're being unreasonable" it was kind of the way it was said too

i think the arguments like "you ghosted the thread" and "you didn't pick up on my "trapcard" read of STD" aren't super meaty either.

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STD - Has brought new ideas to the table and is putting in some effort to be visible and play the game. More of a townlean than full town, but still.

I would characterize this as exaggerated at best.

why did you only pick my read out of fua's list

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VOTE: generalWu

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*huff* *puff* *huff* so...many...*huff* pages...
i'm out...*huff* of shape *puff*

VOTE: Ari

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nordom is town for his interaction with deasvail

and which convo was this exactly?

you're going to make me look through that dillweed's iso to find it, huh?

i think it starts 868 here. i just think that the attitude towards DV comes from town (but i think he was wrong in his suspicion).

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maybe i'm a sucker but i trust yeet he just seems town to me

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actually really disappointed the wagon on ari went away i think we'd catch scum there

VOTE: generalWu back to this i guess

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because i can't keep up with 50 pages being produced every 6 hours

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tbh my desire to play kinda died with the whole nordom thing but i think i'm back and invested again

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i'd probably be down for a scorpius wagon too

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I'm not really sure what people have anxieties about in my 1206 other than theories about my scum!motivation? I explained my thoughts there and I stand by the fact that it was necessary to move the game along voting the largest wagon that I didn't townread. I also wanted to show others that I was willing to compromise to set a tone to push the game forward. I guess I could've voted Wu who is kind of just at pure null for me but I thought the game was moving a bit slowly and as I said HEM became a bit more nullish for me than I originally tried to defend him for. If you wanted to pin me down on why,

I guess part of me loses a bit of confidence in a read when I present arguments for someone being town based off of a reasoning that I feel might be a specific process for myself, and get shut down by multiple people

(which is what I felt happened, notably from fire and Aristeia). But at the end of the day it was just a feeling that I had enough doubt there that I could justify compromising.

I think it's somewhat unlucky that we've hit (probably) two townies (HEM and fua) but I would rather take that risk than just do nothing the whole day. I agree that it's probably fine to slow the game down a little bit (but not to a ridiculous degree, we should still compromise to a degree and push people).

I'm not voting this because I very much sympathize with the bolded.

do you really think scum couldn't say that

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VOTE: April

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holy crap i thought i posted more in this game 22 posts wow i'm probably scum

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re: the hood - i have at least a light town read on everyone, is it possible it's pure? i'll reassess and see if i change my mind.

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not sure how much playing of mafia since 2008 has helped him, like come on, I was a literal child back then

i feel so old now

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not sure how much playing of mafia since 2008 has helped him, like come on, I was a literal child back then

this made me realize that some people here have probs been playing mafia since before i was born and that is kinda terrifying

i feel attacked right now

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i think yeet looks bad today

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i'd go on scorpius with you math

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VOTE: scorpius see

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scorpius feels like they're literally not doing anything intentionally. i feel like if they were town they'd be putting reads up or putting something up other than "another 50 pages? no thanks"

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according to replacement request thread enchant is the new fua and not just some lost soul wandering into our game

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i don't really understand the resistance to a scorpious wagon

if town that's pressure into giving content
if scum that's pressure into making a mistake

so pressure ultimately helps us

and it's not like they've gone and done anything particularly townie

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to

Std is now contributing

tbf i was going to do it anyway

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Dragons is most notably different because they were the only one of the three to vote GeneralWu. Additionally, I feel they are the most capable of giving more, they have the fewest posts and I have the least sense of who they are within the game.

Also, I have felt at times that Dragons has in fact read the game. Scorp isn't doing anything because they have not read the game. What's Dragons' excuse?

read my posts i've been giving reads and shit

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Dragons is most notably different because they were the only one of the three to vote GeneralWu. Additionally, I feel they are the most capable of giving more, they have the fewest posts and I have the least sense of who they are within the game.

Also, I have felt at times that Dragons has in fact read the game. Scorp isn't doing anything because they have not read the game. What's Dragons' excuse?

read my posts i've been giving reads and shit

Exactly. You are present enough to have reads. So you are capable of producing content.

and i am so what's your point

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i posted content d1

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One example of my being contrary was taking monkey's side against Aristeia.

why hasn't my taking of monkey's side against aristeia shaped your read of me

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Fine let's play the game

i think yeet looks bad today

i'd go on scorpius with you math

VOTE: scorpius see

This is scum 101.
the above happened in I dunno, 11 minutes? from Yeet looking bad to a vote on me.
The scum move is associating Math in there. So when I flip town,you are anyone else can blame them and not you..

i don't really understand the resistance to a scorpious wagon

if town that's pressure into giving content
if scum that's pressure into making a mistake

so pressure ultimately helps us

and it's not like they've gone and done anything particularly townie

If town,which I am..Here is content.

Last question, if I'm so non responsive, how is

any

pressure going to affect me? According to you I wouldn't be reading it anyway.

So my question to you, actually 2.
Aside,from your theory that I am "intentionally" not doing anything,why am I scum?
What answer to who's question has given you scum vibes about me...

Where is the case on me?

you ping me as scummy, it's just the way you've been posting. there's nothing there to be like "oh because of A, Scorp is scum" because there's little in your actual iso.

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how is it random

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i'd probably be down for a scorpius wagon too

it's almost like i thought this yesterday

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you can't go after the claimed mason so you're coming after me, huh

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It seems surprising then that you would react in such a way to suspicion of you, insisting that it is random etc.

i was going to say this in a crass, sarcastic way but i guess i don't have to now

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i think mathblade's reasoning, while more eloquent than mine, is pretty similar to mine

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imo you need to get off the people voting you/talking about you and focus on the rest of the game

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it's not bs it's based on the fact you haven't been here you even said yourself people shouldn't have been townreading you so why are you so surprised pikachu that people see your slot and want to poke it

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Q: A scum scorp would benefit from a strong roleclaim. So why does he claim VT at E-6?

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Q: A scum scorp would benefit from a strong roleclaim. So why does he claim VT at E-6?

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He doesn't exactly give off mastermind vibes.

im going to call you a sucker when he flips scum

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VOTE: tenebro

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frogster pinged me in my catch up but i'm a little wary of the wagon so far

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why'd he ping or why i'm wary of the wagon

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frogster pinged me in my catch up but i'm a little wary of the wagon so far

Why?

i guess my best answer to both is i'm concerned more about yeet than i am about frogs at this point

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frogster pinged me in my catch up but i'm a little wary of the wagon so far

Why?

i guess my best answer to both is i'm concerned more about yeet than i am about frogs at this point

Why?

you seemed pretty townie d1 but haven't given off that vibe d2 with pushes on cape and malcolm, both of whom i think have been somewhat town.

targeting cape for the hammer vote seems like you were trying to stir shit up, and i'm not quite sure why you voted for malcolm.

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I said Cape was town after his reaction. I kind of vanity voted Malcolm because I’m going around poking my nullreads.

Do you think we’re in a good spot here as town? My tone may be different because I’m sensing more anxiety about losing. Scum are playing and hiding well and town did not exactly kill D1. The 2 early fights looked TvT which is never a good sign.

i know you said cape was town after the "TvT" cape had but i'm questioning the action of targeting them in the first place.

i don't know what kind of spot we're in as town. i think i've got a few suspects and if we target one of them i think we'll be in good shape. TvT fights can be good because it helps eliminate suspects.

you seem to have scum reads here:

Phone dropping my current reads before I sleep for reference:

Math
skitter Datisi Baltar Nero cape deasvail enchant - feel decent about these being town for now
Scorpious - ??
fire April tenebro eyes Malcolm frog std - would guess most scum are here

but then say things like this:

I’m having trouble finding scumreads this game. That’s why I’m poking and prodding around.

and it comes off as potentially fake and really cagey to me.

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VFP started the frogster wagon

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what the fuck is VFP

i meant VPBaltar

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STD that phone post is basically splitting my reads into TRs and not
not TRs, not scumreads.

what's the difference between scorpious being ????? and the other people being below ?????

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i know you said cape was town after the "TvT" cape had

but i'm questioning the action of targeting them in the first place.

i don't know what kind of spot we're in as town. i think i've got a few suspects and if we target one of them i think we'll be in good shape. TvT fights can be good because it helps eliminate suspects.

you seem to have scum reads here:

It's because I was scummy before for my hammer on GeneralWu?

Are like, you gonna read into things or ask pointless questions?

huh? i'm saying it's weird to target you for hammering wu

are you defending yeet for attacking you for the hammer?

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i know you said cape was town after the "TvT" cape had

but i'm questioning the action of targeting them in the first place.

i don't know what kind of spot we're in as town. i think i've got a few suspects and if we target one of them i think we'll be in good shape. TvT fights can be good because it helps eliminate suspects.

you seem to have scum reads here:

It's because I was scummy before for my hammer on GeneralWu?

Are like, you gonna read into things or ask pointless questions?

huh? i'm saying it's weird to target you for hammering wu

are you defending yeet for attacking you for the hammer?

Why would it be weird though. It feels pretty straightforward to me that hammering early like that is anti town right?

should i have ignored any other points and jumped on the wagon when yeet started it?

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i'd vote april ludgate in a heartbeat

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STD, a lot of my game is finding things that ping me and pushing them to see what happens. The hammer from Cape had scum!motivation possible behind it so it was a natural place to start putting pressuring.

why the hammer and not any other vote on the wagon

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not interested in an enchant wagon

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if i had a dollar for every nonsense argument for why i'm scum that has been made this game, i'd have enough money to get a therapist to get me unaddicted from mafia

datisi is scum because mercury is in retrograde

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i'm just not interested in voting the claimed vig at this point in the game

i tr fua before the claim and even ignoring the post that i'm supposed to pretend isn't there, their emotional state towards the end of their tenure in the game seemed genuine.

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VOTE: April Ludgate

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i'm confused about the people saying there's like no scum reads, i have plenty of people i'd lim in a heartbeat.

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VP feels town so i don't really want to vote there

Malcolm is still a townread for me

i'd rather we get Yeet or Scorpius or April or Eyes today

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it's mostly the way he's responded to his wagon it seems genuine. i also liked his wagon analysis post. i was tring him before his wagon sprung up too but i don't remember exactly why.

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im not sure. i need to go back and look at their posts

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I have no idea how to read Dragons.

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I dunno if I'm convinced on fire

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Mafia is weird

Am high AMA

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VOTE: scorpius

I dont really listen to music when high I should try that usually I'm watching tv or playing video games

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i don't think it's vp
i don't think it's malcolm
i think tene's scorpius towncase is bunk
i think it's scorpius

tene's suspicion on people on scorp doesn't make sense either, i don't see why scum would try so hard to get a nothingburger slot limmed over one of the two wagons people posting

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VOTE: Galron E-1

i think this is better than malcolm.

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VOTE: Galron E-1

i think this is better than malcolm.

Scummy

is it too late to yeet yeet

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Oh Yeet is probably making obvtown moves right now. Your on the naughty list Save The Dragons for shading Yeet

are you reading the same game i'm reading

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i feel like all my scumreads are on the malcolm wagon

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what is the opposite of a slam dunk

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i would say your towncase of yeet is the opposite of a slam dunk

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UNVOTE: just for a sec

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Why Cape is getting zero scrutiny is shocking to me.Plus they are in a hood with VP and Nero and skitter who I all believe to be stronger town than Cape atm.

yeet what exactly changed from your d1 scumread of skitter to this

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VOTE: VP Baltar

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malcolm screams town to me in the way that scorpius screams town to tene and galron screams town to yeet

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i feel like all my scumreads are on the malcolm wagon

probably means you need to reevaluate your reads

no u

gottem

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VOTE: April

try to move me off this i dare you

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VOTE: April

try to move me off this i dare you

Why?

asteria still is scum but people decided to give april a chance

with that chance april rams through an elimination on someone i thought was pretty townie and is probably going to be all "uh oh spaghettios" about it

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I don't think anyone with sway is out here pushing you rn.

ouch

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is no one else concerned about april at all?

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VP >>>>>>>> Nero >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cape

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is probably going to be all "uh oh spaghettios" about it

my prophecy came true btw

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VP >>>>>>>> Nero >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cape

Then why aren't you voting VP?

April >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>VP

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VP is at the end of that chain you can't see it but it's there

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VOTE: VP Baltar E-2

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VOTE: VP Baltar E-2

people thinking this is town.

what's your tl dr case on me specifically

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i've been clearly on april and have explained why

i do naked votes often but if people ask i will usually explain. my vote on you was naked, if it's going to be nero vs. you, you're the one i find more scummy.

i also don't know what's up with this theory that scum all did questionable votes at the same time...like why. why doesn't it come from a town perspective? why did multiple scum people futz around lethargically with a galron wagon or whatever you're trying to say we all did

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enchant if you vote everyone scorpius can't vote again

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i've played survivor with DV before

if we played mafia together it's been a while

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i mean they're really charismatic and friendly but they're also good at the game of survivor which sometimes requires you to be sneaky and lie to people. the two games have some similarities but they're fundamentally different so i'm not sure this is a helpful line of inquiry

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Baaa

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hey i'm here i'm busy this weekend but i got caught up just now

random thoughts:

cape is town not interested in that

i'm a little wary of frogs

tempted to jump on the april wagon but i'm worried we're just going to have 100 pages tomorrow that's going to be limming inside the hood again so maybe it's best we put this to bed

i don't think i have the balls to crumb traitor like that lmao

my vote on april wasn't omgus but i think april figured that out

be back later, probably monday

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what changed re frogsterking?

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VOTE: VP

I will try to get better during the night phase.

Mistakes make you stronger.

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that guy must have made a lot of mistakes

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Imo STD blatant scum, literally no one cares about them.

no one cares about me? ;~;

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yay

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i'm a jester

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VOTE: April

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So it’s Cape, Tene, and StD, eh?

Hmm.

I think Tene might be the scum there.

Do you think StD is viable? No one TRs him?

Stop trying to make fetch happen

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April wagon dissolved like hourglasses flowing through a grain of sand slipping from my hands

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How should I vote oh wise shepherd

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VOTE: titus

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Enchant was a two shot vig I'm so confused

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Enchant was a two shot vig I'm so confused

No wonder. Per the mechs you should prolly be dead.

Not convinced you're confused at all.

Wait why

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right ok so why is galron sus of std

Bc enchant said he took a shot at STD

He also said fua shot fire and he shot you

Galron are you bulletproof

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VOTE: april

Dammit Jim I'm a doctor not a brownie

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i still think it could be scorp

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maybe it's the condescension but i still feel like limming april here

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Where is the scum agenda in my play this game?

[*]MalcolmTucker,

Vanilla Townie

, eliminated day two.
[*]VP Baltar,

Town Ascetic Neighbor

, eliminated day three.

Many more people on it than just me. Were you on either of those? Because if just by being on those wagons make it a scum agenda, doesnt that make you have a scum agenda?

like this argument does not come from good faith

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lmao

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oh no i am got

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tene how does it feel to be surface level with me

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man i wish i were deep

i'd call people surface level and lim townies left and right and pretend there's no possible scum agenda for that

that's the opposite of surface level, right

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i don't wanna have to pull out the shepherd... uh... stick? what's that called? a crook? anyway I don't wanna have to pull that out again, but dragons and tene you followed me last time to the promised land of titus, can you do it again just for today away from the unpromised land of april? and into any of frog/cape/eyes

im tired

ive been thinking april every day but the rug always gets pulled out from under me when momentum shifts that way

today i mean it i'm not budging

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i think april is trying to get a rise out of people

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i know i'm a big nothing surface level player but i think

i townread cape but wary about the hood

i think eyes is a possibility always have

frog i'm really not sure how to read

pedit whoa

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ha it's wrong n1 i was busy killing HEM

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what does that even mean

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Also, to believe I’m scum, you’d have to believe I, the master claimer, pigeonholed myself into a VT claim as scum.

ok

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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im pink

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galron did you figure out how to count to 2 yet

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maybe it's the condescension but i still feel like limming april here

Enchant said he took a shot at you Night 3. Did you see that post?

HE WAS A 2-SHOT VIG

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2

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am i crazy here

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does 2 mean 3

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2

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https://lmgtfy.app/?q=2

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did you read any of my posts in the last few minutes

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the year: 2222
the month: 2
the day: 2

std is seen in 2ville repeating the number 2 over and over again no one knows why

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sorry about being an ass

but it was said

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i tr cape

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i've liked cape's pushes

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why did everyone target me n1

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But yeah, I'd be ready to lim Cape at this point. Do we talk about... I don't know... baking or something for 20 pages first?

dude i made a cake yesterday

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who the hell is fliply

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dv why aren't you voting

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not shade just curious

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i'm not really sold on either lim but i'm guessing even with frog's vote april isn't happening

april and scorpius both being on frog makes me not want to go that way

i'd rather follow mathblade but i townread cape so it's kind of hard

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i'm not really sold on either lim but i'm guessing even with frog's vote april isn't happening

april and scorpius both being on frog makes me not want to go that way

i'd rather follow mathblade but i townread cape so it's kind of hard

Why do you TR Cape explain it like I am 5?

i mean it's mostly a gut thing but they just seem like town. i don't really know how to describe it i just boop boop boop put it all in my head and out comes the town read

i liked the way they've pushed people and when they've popped up in the thread it just felt townie

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I'm vla will try to catch up when I get back

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not sure if i have the bandwidth for this tonight, will probably post tomorrow

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(as in, if not tonight, i will post tomorrow, not i will potentially post tomorrow)

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VOTE: Scorpius

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VOTE: megazu

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If I were a different slot, I’d probably be tunneling me right now

i'm a different slot

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Frogster/STD is possible as a team.

you know i don't have pt access tho

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i'd still be down to get april tbh

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yes i know what i just said

i think april is probably a traitor at this point

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i guess i should just be ignoring april at this point

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VOTE: scorpius

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lez go scum hope i helped

gg thanks for the mod, mods