Please read my posts.In post 7172, April Ludgate wrote:In post 6760, Cape90 wrote:I hate you because I was about to case April like literally 30 minutes after you hammered who I am less confident on since the Nero flip, but sorta still pretty confident on.In post 6590, Titus wrote:You should really reread the thread lol. I literally hammered just to get that day over with.In post 6585, MathBlade wrote:Kinda where I am at and I think still elim TitusIn post 6580, fireisredsir wrote:there's a very good chance all 3 of those are town shots so if you are town then maf team is doing us a favor lol
Wagon shoulda switched to Cape when I tried and scum blantantly overruled me while trying to make it my elim.
But if we eliminate me, we eliminate me. Just give me a few days to get my thoughts together.
God Nero was openwolfing in the hood, they would have been the easiest push for me today
VOTE: April LudgateIn post 6779, April Ludgate wrote:Oo, Froggy Protection Posse…ACTIVATE
we been here.
Just gotta figure out which of em are the sheep. They also all actively avoid any deeper analysis on Frogster slot.
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I'm pretty sure not one single person read the solving posts I made at the start of the day.In post 7268, MathBlade wrote:
Tene if they don’t solve can go back in the poolIn post 7266, Scorpious wrote:
I’m about 80% sure tene is scumIn post 7252, DeasVail wrote:I do not have an inno on tene- tenebrousluminary
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Yeah, no, I'm not doing this again. Be wrong.In post 7284, MathBlade wrote:
It’s more a pattern. A few walls isnt communicationIn post 7276, tenebrousluminary wrote:
I'm pretty sure not one single person read the solving posts I made at the start of the day.In post 7268, MathBlade wrote:
Tene if they don’t solve can go back in the poolIn post 7266, Scorpious wrote:
I’m about 80% sure tene is scumIn post 7252, DeasVail wrote:I do not have an inno on tene- tenebrousluminary
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I think I'm willing to follow you today, but I think you're too confident about your townreads. Dragons doesn't appear in this post at all. Why?In post 7306, fireisredsir wrote:ok so starting out, i want to pull out the votes that titus placed in the last couple days, especially from when she still thought she had a chance of convincing people she was town and getting people on her side, starting after the malcolm flip:
1) 5062 she votes DV, reaching out to tene and VP
2) 5069 after I ask her why she didn't vote eyes as her top scumread and someone who already had votes, she switches to eyes
3) 5261 she votes Nero, reaching out to VP. she also names scorpious, eyes, and DV as her top scumreads
4) 5609 she votes frog, reaching out to eyes and VP. VP is extremely pocketed by this point
5) 5839 she votes DV, reaching out to me. at the time i thought she could be trying to feed me a scum partner to get me on her side, but now i think that's unlikely
6) 6070 she votes VP after the cape wagon forms, telling math not to get distracted. this is still the scummiest post in the game.
7) 6088 she votes cape after i call her out for her previous vote. after this i think she knows she's dead and has given up trying to get people on her side for the most part. i think the votes after this point are less meaningful, but for the sake of completion, they are: VP to end the day, then next day there's Cape, then frog, then self.
so, from all of that, i don't think the DV votes are partner votes. the frog, cape, and eyes votes all easily could be. it's also worth noting that she reached out to tene and eyes with her votes at one point, but each of those were when she was also reaching out to VP. still could be meaningful
(also, as an aside, 6709 is one of the clearer examples of her trying to turn me and april against math and get us on her side. she was more focused on pocketing april since I wasn't budging, but she tried with me a few times too. april is town)
i think frog and cape are the most likely scum. it could easily both, but it's possible that one is town. purely going off movement and the way titus voted, i would lean towards cape. cape also voted titus to help end the day and i think there was likely scum in that group. but purely going off play, i would lean towards frog. i think he hasn't really been trying to solve for a while now, and even when he did show up, he just ranted about how my meta read was bad and still gave no attempt to solve. that just sounds like scum who thinks they were caught for the wrong reasons but doesn't want to give out associations.
so most likely scenario imo is that it's both frog and cape. assuming we're hunting for 3, the third could be any of eyes, galron, tene, scorp. i would lean towards eyes or galron, then tene and scorp. really the only thing in galron's favor is the yeet clear. if there's a traitor, it could be anyone, so i don't think it's that worth hunting for them from my pov.
eyes is probably either honest about his role (as either alignment) or is maf with tene. i think it would be pretty risky as scum eyes with town tene to out a result without asking for a claim first. the fact that he didn't ask for claims at all makes me lean towards thinking he does have the role. i don't have strong feelings at this time about whether his role makes him more likely to be town or maf. currently assuming he's more likely to be town, and fine to focus on frog/cape for now, but still keeping him in mind as a possible partner.
if it's frog and not cape, i think it probably has to be tene. my heart doesn't want this one to be true. third is probably eyes, but could be galron. probably not scorp.
if it's cape and not frog, scorp is more likely. eyes is still possible but less likely bc i think tene is also less likely here. third probably galron? idk im not super sold on that team
if it's neither cape or frog, we're in trouble lol, but it's probably eyes/tene with... scorp? maybe galron? maybe a traitor?
if it's none of cape/frog/eyes... it isn't. there's no way. like 1% chance. but it would prob have to be tene, scorp, and galron. which i don't think even pair that well.
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I think Datisi explained it somewhere in their iso, but I no longer remember.In post 7319, Frogsterking wrote:
What's the "Luca Blight" tell?In post 7029, tenebrousluminary wrote:This is a sudden flip compared with Datisi's earlier expressed Scorp townread because of his "Luca Blight tell." I believe it supports Scorp town, and makes me question why Dragon gets no attention from this quarter.
UNVOTE: fire
Having taken a step back from the game this feels more like a TvT- tenebrousluminary
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We are not really in a position to be doing this.In post 7357, MathBlade wrote:If Galron is scum we need Cape’s town flip to state that.
I tried to read Cape's iso earlier to see whether I'd be OK if it came to this, but I got bored. So I'll try again later.- tenebrousluminary
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I mean, never. We can flip players for being scum. We can't flip players to prove other players anymore. We burned those "proving" April and we can see how that turned out. You'll never get my vote with an argument based on neighbor spec. The Titus/Cape case is the only reason I am even considering this.In post 7361, MathBlade wrote:
Yes we are. If not now, when? After another town flip? Based on Titus’s play Cape is most likely scum. It’s who she resisted the most.In post 7360, tenebrousluminary wrote:
We are not really in a position to be doing this.In post 7357, MathBlade wrote:If Galron is scum we need Cape’s town flip to state that.
I tried to read Cape's iso earlier to see whether I'd be OK if it came to this, but I got bored. So I'll try again later.- tenebrousluminary
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Yes, but it's not relevant right now.In post 7366, MathBlade wrote:
Fine I think Cape and Galron has a scum.In post 7363, tenebrousluminary wrote:
I mean, never. We can flip players for being scum. We can't flip players to prove other players anymore. We burned those "proving" April and we can see how that turned out. You'll never get my vote with an argument based on neighbor spec. The Titus/Cape case is the only reason I am even considering this.In post 7361, MathBlade wrote:
Yes we are. If not now, when? After another town flip? Based on Titus’s play Cape is most likely scum. It’s who she resisted the most.In post 7360, tenebrousluminary wrote:
We are not really in a position to be doing this.In post 7357, MathBlade wrote:If Galron is scum we need Cape’s town flip to state that.
I tried to read Cape's iso earlier to see whether I'd be OK if it came to this, but I got bored. So I'll try again later.
I think it’s most likely Cape but if not it proves Galron
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Not sure.In post 7374, MathBlade wrote:
Do you think Cape flips town?In post 7371, tenebrousluminary wrote:I don't think a town flip from Cape proves anything about Galron, and he is probably a traitor anyway if scum which is not all that helpful.- tenebrousluminary
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Cape, how did you get from 2379 2380 to 2713?
Cape, what changed since 6278 that has removed me from your lim pool? Also, what is your stance on Galron?
Could you expand on 6786?
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How does 3407 3415 come from a partner, including the Datisi quotes?
Although it's true he flips his vote around somewhat often, I see a consistency to it. For instance,he has come back to Eyes like, 4 times.
I liked the VP -> Nero flip but not so much the Nero -> out of hood flip since I was liking his insistence on hood scum as it seemed to not benefit him.
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April and I would deserve an Oscar for this.In post 7421, MathBlade wrote:
I think Cape is scum maybe just Fire and April and Tene for the restIn post 6789, Titus wrote:
Agreed. I want to see which of you is scum if any before moving there. You get one shot at April.In post 6786, fireisredsir wrote:april is a very big fish but also shouldn't be fried
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Never mind, just help me bus her tomorrow then.In post 7425, MathBlade wrote:
Why do you say that?In post 7424, tenebrousluminary wrote:
April and I would deserve an Oscar for this.In post 7421, MathBlade wrote:
I think Cape is scum maybe just Fire and April and Tene for the restIn post 6789, Titus wrote:
Agreed. I want to see which of you is scum if any before moving there. You get one shot at April.In post 6786, fireisredsir wrote:april is a very big fish but also shouldn't be fried
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I asked you some questions, are you planning to answer them?In post 7445, Cape90 wrote:
oh they claimed?In post 7415, fireisredsir wrote:anyway cape's 4861 and 6945 and now not knowing that VP claimed ascetic are just, like... is he even reading the thread?
Well, anyway I am literally just vanilla town neighbor.
No modifiers at all. Arguably better then ascetic XD.
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The part after the == was not directed at you, yeah. Thanks for answering.In post 7451, Cape90 wrote:
1. Wasn't a real SR on Yeet, I was just feeling sassy :pIn post 7416, tenebrousluminary wrote:Cape, how did you get from 2379 2380 to 2713?
Cape, what changed since 6278 that has removed me from your lim pool? Also, what is your stance on Galron?
Could you expand on 6786?
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How does 3407 3415 come from a partner, including the Datisi quotes?
Although it's true he flips his vote around somewhat often, I see a consistency to it. For instance,he has come back to Eyes like, 4 times.
I liked the VP -> Nero flip but not so much the Nero -> out of hood flip since I was liking his insistence on hood scum as it seemed to not benefit him.
6221 is almost too good to be true.
2. Recent posting has been arguably the best out of everyone alive. So yeah, welcome to the not lim pool club.
3. 6205, 6208, 6250, 6272. I am not sure scum acts like they are conf!biasing themselves out like this and then tells everyone that vig should shoot them if VPB flips town. Literally makes no sense to me from a scum POV to do that, but I am willing to reconsider. I do want them to answer my questions I just threw at them.
4. Good question, is this really even directed at me or...?
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I don't think Cape's side of their interactions clicks well with that.In post 7452, MathBlade wrote:That will be 4 fucking times April disagreed.
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Malcolm, VP, Titus, and now Cape
Last time I got my way it was scum.
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That's a pretty good point.In post 7460, MathBlade wrote:
Hmmm now she’s not okay with Cape first now that it is happening?In post 7399, April Ludgate wrote:Yeah, Cape’s been playing odd, and has done a lot of weird things if scum, but that might be by design.
I’m okay doing Cape first then Froggy tomorrow
Similar to Titus
She said not VP.
I vote Cape
She votes VP.
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No, any scum investigative power is a rolecop or Eyes trueclaiming. Nero's death has to be explained.In post 7526, MathBlade wrote:The traffic analyst from a setup spec standpoint makes much more sense as a scum power.
If Fire doesn’t die I’d be sus as hell but patiently analyze- tenebrousluminary
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No way. Nero was getting run up that day. It makes no sense.In post 7538, MathBlade wrote:
Nero’s death if Fire is scum is simpleIn post 7536, tenebrousluminary wrote:
No, any scum investigative power is a rolecop or Eyes trueclaiming. Nero's death has to be explained.In post 7526, MathBlade wrote:The traffic analyst from a setup spec standpoint makes much more sense as a scum power.
If Fire doesn’t die I’d be sus as hell but patiently analyze
Nero’s PoE was accurate
If Nero was PR hunted then eyes or another PR
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I think the OPness can be chalked up to 5 scum.In post 7544, MathBlade wrote:N1 was a mason shot
N2 was an infinite shot psychologist
N3 was Nero
N4 was enchant
Vigs are ICs in normals can’t be given to town
I and HEM are mason clears
Now 4 shot follower, inf shot ta, inf shot psychologist.
Yes there’s two shot alien but …
You’re still looking at 1.5 checks a night accounting for alien.
Ta is the piece that doesn’t make sense here
It could be an OP setup which is why I am not demanding Fire’s head
But of the claims I believe limited shot eyes over infinite shot TA
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I feel as though a town flip from Eyes is the only thing that could possibly persuade me of fire scum. Otherwise, if fire fakes a guilty tomorrow I am going to vote wrong.In post 7550, DeasVail wrote:I think Math's point that Fire could easily be a mafia traffic analyzer is a good one, and the possibility of this is why I would not be in favour of eliminating eyes today. It is also, perhaps cautiously why I would rather not go with fire's first-choice lim of frogster, really as a precautionary measure more than anything else. That's what I'm thinking at least.
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They don't. I'm still townreading him, but I'm done screaming about it.In post 7565, DeasVail wrote:I also don't really think that reasons for townreading Scorpious hold up?- tenebrousluminary
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I think you just don't like something about my tone or personality. I should be an easy read here.In post 7574, MathBlade wrote:
I prefer tene tbh in a fire town world.In post 7573, DeasVail wrote:From a quick read-through I can't really find anything in ISOs that precludes Scorp/Cape/Frogster/Eyes from being scum together. Not a reason for them being together, but if there was something that meant X and Y could absolutely not be scum together then that would be something to look closely at in terms of thinking about possible teams.
I think my choise of elim would be Cape.
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Also I think Frog is more certain to be scum and I'm no longer very worried about this being some sort of scum master plan to save Cape now that I know Deas, Dragons and April can probably be trusted.In post 7623, fireisredsir wrote:i do think frog is likely but i don't think eyes should be a factor in that- tenebrousluminary
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Not sure why they aren't voting Frog, then.In post 7630, fireisredsir wrote:eyes prefers frog strongly.- tenebrousluminary
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I've tried to convince Math/Fire. They aren't convinced. I don't see any point in fighting it.In post 7643, Eyes without a face wrote:
Why aren't you?In post 7634, tenebrousluminary wrote:
Not sure why they aren't voting Frog, then.In post 7630, fireisredsir wrote:eyes prefers frog strongly.- tenebrousluminary
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You got me bruh. My obviously town motivated play all game was all part of my master plan and only you are clever enough to see through it.
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Agreed.In post 7651, fireisredsir wrote:idk if cape scumbuddies really come to his defense like this but whatever
i think they wanted to bus frog lol- tenebrousluminary
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I am quite likely the only uncleared player who is not scum. I expect this game to end when Math decides to mislim me despite how painfully obvious my alignment should be because I did not strike his ego enough and dared to be right about a wide variety of topics, and I am preemptively mad about it.
VOTE: Frog- tenebrousluminary
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