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I'm V/LA for this weekend watching my mets lose to the padres but I think we'd be better off not voting N_M and just letting him do his normal lurk forever and never post anything of relevance shtick for a while, just for old times sakes.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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VOTE: Frogsterking because I want him to start scum reading me early.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Here's my survey. Why did you kill the innocent townsfolk last night?In post 14, Frogsterking wrote:RVS VOTE: Aisa because Aisa-what-she-did-there.
SSS (standard survey start)
I have some ideas for changes I'd like to implement so this will likely be the last time I use this version of the SSS. I promise to protect the secrets of your mind and keep our dreams of finding scum alive. Don't miss your last chance to fill it out!
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Rate each descriptive statement on how well it describes you using the Likert scale (1 = strongly disagree to 5 = strongly agree).
"Get angry easily" =
"Take charge" =
"Make people feel welcome" =
"Like music" =
"Like to tidy up" =
"Like to visit new places" =
"Feel comfortable around people" =
"Interested in many things" =
"Love order and regularity" =
"Am afraid to draw attention to myself" =
"Enjoy being part of a large crowd" =
"Cheer people up" =
"Lose my temper" =
"Enjoy the beauty of nature" =
"Enjoy thinking about things" =
"Cheat to get ahead" =
"Feel desperate" =
"Rarely overindulge" =
"Easily resist temptations" =
"Have a high opinion of myself" =
"Waste my time" =
"Need a push to get started" =
"Have little to contribute" =
"Keep my cool" =
"Avoid crowds" =
"Turn my back on others" =My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Hi I'm still not reading the thread because of baseball related vla.
I hope everyone is having a wonderful time so far.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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In my limited understanding of frogster he doesnt tend to care about what is likely to be true very much.In post 143, Grib wrote:I think it's safe to assume people don't lie about easily verifiable and very public information. There's literally no point. What, was he banking on you not remembering?My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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What's weird about it? The baseball game I was at ended at like 11:40. I walked to my hotel and I posted. I didn't even read that before I did lol.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Even if I claimed scum by using verifiable screen shots you wouldn't have the ability to lim me.In post 148, Frogsterking wrote:Scum lean on Shea what the fuck
Anyway, gunna pass out now. Keep having fun folks.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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No I can't share them with you.
You would actually be able to get a lim on me.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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In post 156, Grib wrote:
Is it a complete coincidence that you happened to start posting shortly after Frog called you out?In post 153, Thestatusquo wrote:No I can't share them with you.
You would actually be able to get a lim on me.
Literally had not even read a single post in the thread since my last post. This is all verifiable information. I am V/LA in NYC for the mets series, walked to my hotel after the game, posted hey I'm not reading hope everyone is having fun.In post 149, Thestatusquo wrote:What's weird about it? The baseball game I was at ended at like 11:40. I walked to my hotel and I posted. I didn't even read that before I did lol.
I promise you I am in no way scared of frogster. Nor do I believe he is capable of catching anyone no matter how much they post. If you look at my games you'll see I'm an omega poster as either alignment.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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I don't really even know what the accusation is here, bud.
Are you saying you think frogster said "I'm gunna go call you out in thread" and then I was like "oh cool I'll respond to it immediately. As scum its very important to make sure your actions seem as coordinated as possible."My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Nor do I really do scum theatre for that matter, but self meta etc.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Though I'm pretty sure fb has rolled scum with me and can pretty easily confirm I'm not the "hey everyone lets plan out how we're going to interact with each other!" type because its a pretty stupid way to play mafia.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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I want to make it very clear I meant that firebringer rolled scum with me THIS game.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Which is why I gave more information than that? About like, how literally the game ended and I posted 10 minutes later because that was when I had removed my pants and was lying in my hotel room with my laptop pointedly refusing to read the thread.
A full timeline of my day, for the True Scum Hunters:
1am-2am I play slay the spire with Ariel and Ametrine in the MS discord voice.
2am-4am I watch nonsense videos until I fall asleep.
11am I wake up and walk to a bagel place for coffee and real bagels because you can't get them in chicago.
11am to 12pm I eat bagels and watch some youtube.
12pm to 3pm I go play chess in the park because I've always wanted to do that
4pm I get back to my hotel and shower
430pm I get in an uber to go meet up with lilith.
5:15 PM I get dinner with Lilith. She is delightful.
7:37 the mets game starts
~9pm buck showalter bunts with 2 on and no one out like an absolute twit.
~10pm-11pm buck showalter brings edwin diaz into the game in the 7th for no discernable reason and then leaves him in to pitch the 8th despite the fact that the mets have scored 4 runs.
11:40ish game ends. I walk back to my hotel room and make said post.
I hope that my itinerary is useful for you determining my buddy equity with frogster. A player I am pretty sure I would simply bus immediately if I were ever scum buddies with him.
I'm having a really nice vacation though. Hope the mets can win tomorrow.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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I'm not being defensive, I'm making fun of you.
I'm sorry that wasn't clear.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Nope. I'm mocking you. There is nothing in this thread that makes me feel the need to defend myself.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Nah why would I use anything besides my whole ass to make fun of someone who is saying something as ridiculous as you are?My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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this is a scum post. poking at things that are surface level and look weird but at their core don't have any particular reason why scum would do them rather than town.In post 117, Grib wrote:I meant, what peopel have to say about it when I lay out the reasons. But you're right, I don't think I'm going to get much out of waiting.
The problems I have with that vote are
1) it was waaay too early to accuse Firebringer of not wanting to have reads.
2) it was also too early to accuse scum of not wanting to fill out your survey - barely half the game had posted at that time.
3) you didn't explain why scum would or would not interact with your quiz.
4) I purposefully ignored your quiz to see what you would do about it, and you didn't react at all, which makes me think that 2 was complete bull.
5) you townreading me right after that felt appease-y.
I think the whole song and dance that grib did wrt me and frogster falls into the same category of just performative nonsense.
I don't think you think any of this actually helps you find scum.
VOTE: grib
Realistic attempts to sorts don't look like this, generally, this is what scum posts when they want to look involved in the thread but don't have anything real to push on.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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too many red flags? Come on man. There's nothing here and you know it. This waffle bullshit too refusing to actually take strong stances where either way you can be right.In post 120, Grib wrote:
Literally, if it hadn't been for that vote, I think I would be townreading him here. There's too many red flags for me to give him the BOTD, but the phase is young.In post 118, Firebringer wrote:
this is how i felt about my interactions with frog in the last 2 pages after i said he was scum and he changed it to town then said i have a good read of what he is doing.In post 117, Grib wrote:5) you townreading me right after that felt appease-y.
now im just confused when half o what i said was like "ur trying to appear town and i don't know why" but i think he was going for "trying to create conversation out of nothing" agreeing with the latter but ignoring the former and was just trying to find common ground.
Im sitting her going ok. Why does it feel like ur buddying me and grib here.m.
I don't want to focus too much on frog though i think this thread could be exploding in too much posts if we just do this back and forth.
Frog doesn't make complete sense but im like less on scum lean than i was before. Still weak scum right now.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Alright I've read up. All of you need to re-think your grib townleans. It's the most obvious fluff posting nothing burger that he presents as if its some sort of deep scum case.
And then waffles on while saying hed probably be town leaning.
My brother in christ it was page 6.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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I don't care.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Enchant isn't doing anything they're probably scum.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Scum team is like grib enchant frogsterking or something.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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why not enchantIn post 269, Firebringer wrote:im chill voting frogsterMy memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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No need to extend an olive branch if you do townie things. Explain how any of the things you mentioned are more likely to come from scum frogster than town frogster, please. The "I guess I just need to play around the slot" ain't a townie response to one bit of pressure even a little bit.In post 271, Grib wrote:Eh, yeah, that's about what I expected from Shea. There's always at least one player every single game who dislikes either me or my playstyle and then finds a way to scumread me for it.
Probably just going to ignore and play around that slot, to be honest, because if he's a villager there's like 0% chance he ever extends an olive branch.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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This isnt an answer to my question, which was very specific.In post 275, Grib wrote:I've played with people like you before. If I think you're just not going to cooperate with me on principle (which I do), I will play around you. You were kind of rude to me before for no real reason.
The whole point of my "case" on Frog was that those things bothered me, I asked Frog to clarify, and he actively chose not to. That certainly isn't townie, and kind of lends credence to my theory that Frog isn't town.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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You did not. I asked you what made the miriad of things you listed about frogger to be more likely to come from scum than town. You have not answered that.In post 282, Grib wrote:I did answer the question.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Burden of proficiency? Nah, I'm pretty bad as town.In post 281, Frogsterking wrote:
Townie indignation fyiIn post 277, Grib wrote:So with that in mind (the main point in my mind being that Frog is Hard To Read but Catches Scum Pretty Early), I, a villager that knows next to nothing, notice some patterns in a couple of Frog's posts and I lay them out all nice and neat to see if Frog can explain why he did the things he did. He quotes the post but doesn't address anything. Several pages go by and still, nothing. What am I supposed to make of that?@Shea
Shea have you ever been BoPed before?My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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No, I quoted a list of things you said about frog, I ask you why each of those things is more likely to come from scum than town. I am trying to figure out what your scum hunting process is because I don't think any of the things you said in the post I quoted are more likely to come from scum. So, if you disagree I'd like you to explain that.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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yeah dont really agree with any of that and I think the claim that "frog is just a goofball" was pretty readily available when you posted the original thing.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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HPE seems pretty town to me.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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I hate "overdefensive" as a thing that people say in mafia games.
It's a buzzword that means nothing. Townies defend themselves. Sometimes excessively. Overdefensiveness is not alignment indicative in literally any way.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Like maybe if you drill down to a meta analysis of how players react to pressure you can find slight differences in SPECIFIC players but I think that even that is frequently better explained by general mood and tone of the person attacking them than alignment and it's almost never part of the analysis, just like its not here.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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I don't like the dismissive tone in BBTs posts because it seems like its not productive towards doing anything BUT producing defensiveness and certainly not in solving for alignment.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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I think you have your answer.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Ok, can you answer me this then. If you're not saying that its alignment indicative, what is your point in pointing it out using a buzz word like "overdefensive" which is frequently associated with scumminess? If you're not saying its scummy it seems an awful lot like well poisoning to me.
What are you trying to accomplish in your questions with Eirolox? Because it seems to me a lot like you're grandstanding with no particular purpose towards discerning alignment.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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So this is fun, because what I'm doing here is a reaction test called "deliberately weak argument."In post 355, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I didn't even use the buzzword of 'overdefensive' that you keep referencing. I said 'Defensive much'. This isn't even a big thing and is certainly not the bulk of what was my response to Eira so why are you focusing on that?
Which is where I make a post with a bunch of interaction points in it and one of them is "deliberately weak." I.e. a point thats easily refuted and responded to whereas the others require actual work or analysis.
The reason it is effective is a psychological difference in how town and scum tend to argue, where scum are generally arguing to win an argument and town are generally arguing to discern alignment. Town is very interested in engaging with the actual meat of a post and discussing where the differences lie whereas scum tend to be more interested in discerning alignment.
This is one of the more blatant fails of the deliberately weak argument test that I've ever seen. Obviously you didnt say over defensive, but I fail to see how that is relevant to the questions I asked you which you completely ignored in order to ridicule me for using the wrong turn of phrase.
anyway VOTE: BBT
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*scum tend to be more interested in winning the argument and less interested in discerning alingnment
is what that last line of the third paragraph should read.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Yes, it is.
In post 354, Thestatusquo wrote:Ok, can you answer me this then. If you're not saying that its alignment indicative, what is your point in pointing it out using a buzz word like "overdefensive" which is frequently associated with scumminess? If you're not saying its scummy it seems an awful lot like well poisoning to me.
What are you trying to accomplish in your questions with Eirolox? Because it seems to me a lot like you're grandstanding with no particular purpose towards discerning alignment.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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You're scrambling now and you're still not answering my questions.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Whether you said overdefensive or defensive much was completely irrelevant to my questions. And yet it was the only thing you chose to respond to in order to try to win the argument.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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In post 369, Thestatusquo wrote:Whether you said overdefensive or defensive much was completely irrelevant to my questions. And yet it was the only thing you chose to respond to in order to try to win the argument.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Swap in "defensive much" and the questions are the same.
That was my whole point of doing this.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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You don't know how to respond so you keep trying to discredit me ineffectively.In post 371, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Is this that thing where no matter what I post I'm flailing? Flapping? Scrambling? etc etc.
This isn't a newbie.
It's classic caught scum.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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and yet you still havent answered the questions and continue trying to discredit me by denying the reality that everyone can see in the thread. Why is the line of questioning clearly bad? Because you said so?In post 375, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Because you clearly posted about it numerous times and continued with that line of questioning that was clearly bad.In post 369, Thestatusquo wrote:Whether you said overdefensive or defensive much was completely irrelevant to my questions. And yet it was the only thing you chose to respond to in order to try to win the argument.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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lmao.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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This is the funniest day one caught scum I've ever had.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Please dear god everyone go back and read the exchange between me and BBT starting on post 346 and tell me with a straight face BBT is town.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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That is not responsive to my questions. They were more specific than "explain what your questions were based on."In post 383, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
My questioning of Eira was based on him not reading the game closely and asking him why his town read on you was so strong that he was willing to go bat for you even though he said it was based on vibes/gut. That was the bulk of my post which TSQ conveniently ignored.In post 380, Aisa wrote: Even though I get that TSQ is the one who brought up the point first so why wouldn't BBT reply to it etc.
1) Why did you feel the need to call out his defensiveness if you don't think its a scum tell? (famously, according to you.) and
2) What was your goal in making the post and how does it help you discern his alignment, especially with the dismissiveness of your town how did you expect a town player to respond to you vs a scum playerMy memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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oh no "your town" instead of "your tone." I have freudian slipped and now must die.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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I mean the whole reason I decided to go with this play is I think that your play so far this game closely resembles that of a scum player trying to be aggressive and forceful in order to look like a town player trying to shake things up and get reactions but I don't think there's a lot in any of your posts thats likely to give you good information about anyones alignment which is generally the big difference between town being forceful like this vs scum trying to mimic that style.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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My whole point is that you're not using it to discern their alignment and therefore mentioning it serves no purpose other than a) dismissing them and b) poisoning the well. I am asking why you're mentioning it if you're NOT saying its something that gives you insight into alignment. Generally people have a point for what they say in games of mafia. So when you start with "defensive much" it sets the tone for the whole post, given that "defensive" is generally used as an attack in mafia.In post 387, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I didn't call it out and I certainly didn't use it as a way to discern his alignment. Like, you're implying that I would have some sort of problem saying 'Hey you're being super defensive which is scummy' and you're still talking about defensiveness as well even though this new argument you have is based on how defensiveness was never a thing but now it is again.
I was wondering why Eira was so into hard defending Aisa despite the read not being strong and to wonder whether he was a) pocketing a potential townie by defending someone under pressure or b) looking to white knight someone who could potentially get elimmed
Like, that seems super obvious?
What dismissiveness are you referring to?
To the second point what about your post would actually help you discern that information? It seemed like an attempt to provoke a response that would be emotionally charged and not that relevant. Did you expect Eirolox to be like "oh yeah I'm trying to white knight someone" or something? Did you actually think the question would lead to information about Eirolox's alignment?My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Some combination of both. I wasn't actually doing DWA with you I was just annoyed with you for focusing on something I thought was stupid and trying to antagonize you to read you while doing it. I'm not sure I got anything useful out of it tbh.In post 390, Grib wrote:Hm.
Can't say I have a ton of faith in the deliberately weak argument method but I want to see where it takes us.
Either he was doing that with me as well or he was just being annoying for fun.
DWA isn't like a slam dunk scum tell or anything but its a data point and the reactions to the reveal are pretty important to and I just don't see a world where BBT is town with how they've responded here.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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I appreciate this. I can't promise I won't try to antagonize you if I feel like I need to in order to fulfill my win condition but I also pretty strongly feel like the point of this is a game to have fun so I don't want to make the game unpleasant for you if I can help it.In post 394, Grib wrote:I can appreciate you playing the game in a way that makes you happy, especially if you're on my team and conribute to solving the game. But I get easily tilted when deliberately antagonized, which I don't think is going to be worth much alignment-wise. And I don't like being mad at people in a game.
Whether what I focus on has value to you isn't super relevant to me, because I have to process the game with the brain between my skull, not yours.
Not being dismissive or condescending, just laying out my position as clearly as possible to minimize friction.
So, long story short: Heard and understood.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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btw if BBT flips scum Aisa's posts feel EXTREMELY bussy to me.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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what?In post 401, Aisa wrote:Oh no scratch that maybe it was TvT. Game hard.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Nah, personality tests have no predictive validity how you're using them so I'll just continue to ignore it.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Not the way you're using it it doesn't.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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I think disagreeing with your methods does not equal putting you down. But I also don't think this is a productive use of either of our time, this argument. I do not buy your methods and I don't think there's anything you can say or do that will make me given my experience reading a bunch of your games.In post 411, Frogsterking wrote:I would be more open to listening to your idea about the Weak Argument Method even though it's clearly not supported by any research if you weren't so quick to put me down at every opportunity.
The only thing that's annoying here is you trying to hold me hostage by saying you wont even consider my arguments unless I agree with your scum hunting methods. Which I'm just straight up not going to do because I've seen no evidence they catch scum anywhere.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Anyway, I doubt I'm moving off of BBT today and I don't like Bellephants response to it because its not really engaging with the point I'm making at all.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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@mod feel free to add a he/him to OP for me.
done! -csfMy memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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