You didn’t really hard bus, at least from my perspective. Not until it was inevitable between him and Frog. On Day 1 you said yourself you only voted BBT when TSQ did. And I don’t think it’s impossible for scum!you to kill Firebringer to validate his read.In post 1417, Elements wrote:So I hard bus my partner and then kill of the only person that's town reading me?In post 1415, Grib wrote:Yes.In post 1409, Elements wrote:Do you think the Firebringer kill indicates me as scum more than Bella as scum?In post 1398, Grib wrote:If Bella is a partner, then BBT charged himself with protecting her. With the way he played, I don't think she's his partner. And the Firebringer kill would be hella weird after Bella openly shaded him at deadline for townreading you.
But I’m by no means locked onto that. Just need a healthy amount of discussion and different perspectives.
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I guess because the alternative is just bad play imo.In post 1421, Elements wrote:
Why do you think it's more likely a pocket attempt?In post 1418, Grib wrote:So when he said his Bella read was based on meta, that set off alarm bells. I’m leaning towards that fake read being used to pocket Bella, rather than shield her from pressure.
If BBT gave a meta townread on Bella with no substance when he is publicly vocal about hating meta reads, and Bella soft-townreads him and pokes and prods at non-BBT options when he's getting run up, then they just both get axed.
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I mean I said pretty early on that despite the pressure, you kept doing your thing and I was like, ok that's probably a villager that doesn't give a shit.In post 1425, Elements wrote:
This is the first time anyone has said it makes it hard to read you. I don't think I've played a game where I haven't been wagoned day 1. In at least half of my games I get voted out day 1 or 2In post 1422, Grib wrote:Even without Firebringer, I’d say you still aren’t really anyone’s first elim choice. You have a pretty easygoing vibe that makes it hard to scumread you, imo.- Grib
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I get what you're saying but it's pretty circular reasoning. I need something else to help break the wheel.In post 1430, Elements wrote:the problem I have with "way too easy" reasoning is that just proves it isn't
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I thought his point that townreading Enchant so strongly is something scum mostly do was pretty funny.
I also thought that "yes because the Fire kill was a TPR hunt. This is a misdirection because at the time the kill was made there was no reason for Elements to believe they would be pushed hard today or that they would need a pocket alive to defend them" was, in all fairness, a logical point.- Grib
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This might be an unpopular opinion, but there is a tiny chance that Frog and Elements are bussing here. If Frog is scum, his best bet is getting his partner safely to endgame, and the only way I see that happening is 1) limit interactions as much as possible, or 2) hard bus/distance.
I almost don't even want to think of what world we're in if Frog flips town.
I'm just trying to think of who fits as the third mafia besides NM. I don't reeeally think it's Enchant, but that's obviously hard to judge. And I'm still townreading Eira/Bella/Aisa, although it's been a pretty slow day content-wise and I'm getting paranoid at the slight decrease in willingness to gamesolve. Aisa's attempts are noted and appreciated.
Eira just feels like he's perpetually waking up from a long nap, dropping a post, and and falling back asleep again.- Grib
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It goes away after a little bit.In post 1664, Elements wrote:Why on mobile does the first post of a page have smaller text?- Grib
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We went over this.In post 1712, Elements wrote:Why is my activity sus?
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I felt it in your aura.In post 1709, Enchant wrote:
Why would you think thatIn post 1698, Grib wrote:I thought Enchant was the vig so townlean there slightly revoked.
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