secret shitler III [7/7] (liberal victory!)

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I'd like to not touch deck until special election then get SE

No matter what my line would be as fasc that doesn't give me high winrate but I'm confident enough on being able to win this game from that position as lib

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Special election, third red policy

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Standard meta is 1526 but i don't want to be picked and potentially conflicted

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You should either go for 1xy or 1x by setup

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You're calling me fascist for asking for a line of play that would give me sub 50% winrate? I don't buy that and I'll just conflict you if you're going to call me fascist for it.

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1xy as in 147 136

1x by as in 14 26

You also want to try to avoid TD blocks

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Ok

I'll conflict VP Baltar so from here we're assuming one of the two of us is fascist and neither of us touch deck

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So that leaves you a pool of 5 people that contains at least 3 liberals

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No i didn't play that game but i actually play SH online with people who know what they're doing.

I'm not responding to anything else you say

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That's ok I'm not expecting anything special i just want to play a game

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don't worry toad nobody understands the arcane language RC is trying to brainwash us with

just nod and smile

I guess I can do that lmao

ja'd cos first turn

Ok so this is awkward in terms of future

Claim cards please

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Also if anything I'm saying is confusing you don't write it off, ask for an explanation

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Usually you want govs to play together

Unfortunately that isn't possible after 17 if we ja 2

So we're best off playing 42/46 instead of jaing 2

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RC you seem to really know your stuff, who should I choose here, is it still random?

If we ja you the next gov can't be 71 and we want it to be 71 because govs that play blue tend to be lib lib or fasc fasc

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I'm making significant allowance for suboptimal levels of blue playing by fascist but it's still highly advantageous for govs to keep playing together

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I want to not touch deck until 3 reds are played then be special elected but VP Baltar has preconflicted me and feels incredibly disingenuous so I'm conflicting him instead and 3 and 6 should not play this game

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If you ja this it forces govs to be played in a way that denies libs info, 4x should play then 71

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I don't think a liberal minded player thinks that someone who is burdened with getting policy scumread is fascist for reacting to a policy scumread. Why exactly should i not take you at your word when you say you fasc read me, do you think i haven't been fascread in situations like this in earnest before? Where's the line exactly?

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keeping govs together means we get more info on who droppers are. If we play govs chaotically we know generally how many cards were dropped but we have no idea by whom. If we keep govs together we both have higher odds of 1 pair being lib lib and we don't have as much variance in terms of solving likely droppers

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RC is there like a webpage that you know where I can understand your lingo?

I'm not trying to be facetious but I don't understand a lot of your strategy.

Can you make a list of words I'm sorry i don't actually know which ones are not understood

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How do I know that? I can't read your tone, i just see someone calling me fascist for suggesting something that objectively lowers my winrate if I'm fascist unless the line is exactly 147 when i could have just called for 147 meta

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Dropper = someone who as president drops a blue and claims the amount of blues they have where the blue they received is a red

Conflict = président claims rrb, chance claims rr

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This is where I'd call 4 fascist for jaing 2 over 4 because that's objectively incorrect from his point of view with 0 shades of gray if he understands the decision he is making

That said i don't think it's fascist indicative in this case

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If 24 is rbb then 3=4 here

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discarded a fasc. my b, I think the right move was discarding a lib to "test" the chancellor?

nope it's not

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briefly considering

the world where 24 is 2 libs and andante is reg fasc neining

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That calls 167. If that's the line then it's going to be extremely hard for the next gov to be lib lib

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Yeah i really don't want to play 5x

I think we see 43 71 or something like that

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Can you briefly consider the future potential govs before you all ja something that has no good future potential govs

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That gov is confirmed conflicting btw like can we think a little more critically about our votes

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Hey 3 aka VP Baltar

When you call 42 lib lib that means 1 is 75% fascist

Why do you want 31 to play over 43

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The next time someone votes in a way that they either didn't think for a second about the vote or are fascist I'm going with they are fascist

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When you call the second government players both liberal that means Poorly is fascist 75% of the time

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Andante you're committing pretty hard to a line like

you want to tell me 234 contains all 3 fascists?

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I'm not cutting down on the noise, I'm explaining what people should be thinking about when they make decisions

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It's not serious like
I'm not gonna cry if i lose

I just want a game where it feels like people are trying to win

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People are committing to lines rather quickly huh

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Am i getting sed if i don't get a gov

I want 3 people to say they ja me for se

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Toad should pick 2

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Pooky Baltar isn't fasc fasc Conf so at least one lib thinks i should be SEd

42 should play if it reds then 7x

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I'll ja it, if it reds then 7 plays

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This way we have two chances at a lib lib gov and if both 42 and 76 contain a fasc then se is confirmed lib

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Inv 2

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if you don't inv bailey next gov is super awkward

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Your other inv is me

You shouldn't pick anyone in 76

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no point counting cards until end of deck

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Actually hold on

Inv 2 76 is really bad

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After further délibération 2 is a bad invest you should just inv me

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I don't get to be SE this game because if 42 conflicts and 76 blues we have no future

5 has to play

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Because if 4 and 2 conflict and 76 blue we have no future government

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If 24 and 13 conflict 1234 is a top deck zone

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Hell actually you know what just invest 7 or 6 pick one

It'll conflict it's fine

It's actually the best way to play this

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Don't invest in 13

567 is your invest pool

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4 if you conflict 6 then 572 plays and on conflict we have confirmed lib

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And if you inv 6 blue then we know something is whack

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Then that's fine it leaves a pool of 3 people with at least 2 libs

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If 4 investigates 5 and it conflicts it's also TD block 345

So that's bad for the same reason 2 is bad

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67 are both ok invests

Sorry it's been a long time since i have played SH my brain isn't working

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Ok then

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I did just explain why that's bad, yes?

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Have you decided what align i am

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Ok and you realize that's both entirely useless and if i were fascist and you invested me fasc wouldn't help you win because everyone lib read me right

I mean

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I mean VP Baltar if you think 345 is lib lines I'm not exactly overloaded with options here

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It's ok

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I'm gonna pick andante because if they conflict me the game is solved, if 7 conflicts me the game is not so obvious

Pick: Andante

this should pass btw, when i get inved I'm forced to take gov

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FINALLY something good!! thank you so much RC!!!!

If you conf me I'm gonna blow up an inflatable baseball bat and bonk you with it

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you shouldn't because if it doesn't pass you play which you should want

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You better ja I'm your investigated lib

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Maximum convince

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you shouldn't because if it doesn't pass you play which you should want

hmm debating if there is any remote possibility andante is hitler here. I don't think so from play, but will not be happy if so

It doesn't matter if he is this isn't HZ

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Fine, at worst RC is Hitler

145/345? Weird line for me to be taking on

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HZ is Hitler zone btw

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Our choices are 67 62 72

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No i drop the 1 red, im not letting you conf me lmao

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Sure if this reds I'm sed

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Alternative here is 72

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I mean I figured you'd wanna test me cause they all trust you... but ok im lib so it's fine

Ok but a red policy is still passed even if every single lib auto agrees you're fasc

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Also me forcing RBB proves that 4 didn't drop so it makes the deck locked in

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If i gave you rrb and claimed rbb choice you should be mad sus I'm covering for my cofasc who inved me lib

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It's this or 72

I don't actually care very much which of the two happens I'm fairly confident neither is lib lib

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I'm not a dictator and i said 67 or 72

You guys should vote what you think is correct

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You want 2 over me, you call 45 fasc fasc?

Ok pick 2 then

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You call 45 fasc fasc forcing on 46 then you pick 2

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conf time?

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No conf time

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You mean president or chancellor

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Pres is way more important even in HZ btw

Heils are just something that happens and :shrug:

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How mad would everyone be if i took 15 minutes to pick

Pretty mad right

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I'll ick before :37

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Yolo sorry if I heil but i have Personal Meta always cucu in HZ so

Pick: toad

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Why's it risky

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You know there's a saying about neins after chanc pick

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If I'm liberal i ja so fascists can ja too

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so golden rule says ja

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there wouldn't be this much opposition if heil so

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look if I'm fascist i won when i got gov who i pick doesn't matter in this deck so if you nein it is claiming f

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If i lost the game for us yell at me after game

But you have to call 145 and you can't really do that from your position 3 when i could just pick 56 for no questions asked pass

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I got good news and bad news

Good news is we have a confirmed fascist

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so

here's what we know

4 is fascist
13 contains fascist
3567 contains 1 fascist

I don't see any merits to going for a Hitler shot here, i think I am going to just pop 4

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Yeet cane toad

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Wdym

Bailey you understand that i just shoot a lib if I'm fascist right

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yeet toad

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Rc is TL

Let me try to remember mechanics

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If we TD to me we have 75% * (1-(3/14)) = like 57% ish

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There's a world where we ja 1 here except he doesn't have a chance so nevermind

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I think we TD to me and take 11/14 winrate

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If i hit correctly that is

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Topdeck

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Topdeck once shuffle deck 2 6 in deck

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Maybe RC is also fascist

I'm fascist and i shot my cofasc?

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Why don't i just shoot and topdeck

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Why don't i just shoot and topdeck

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Pick anyone @mod can we topdeck to me

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Topdeck to rc

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tdtorc

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Quack

I hate this game already toad wasn't supposed to be fascism

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RC has to spend 15 minutes again...

I missed once

I don't wanna miss twice

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It's been like a long time since I've socdeded my neurons aren't firing uh

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God i regret playing socded

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Eh i made up my mind that I'll reward Andante but i don't feel amazing about it

pick: Andante

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Game.isnt locked noob

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I called 147h!

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I was this close to slamming bailey NGL but i thought everyone would never play with me again if i was wrong

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I also considered picking you VP

In my entire stall i mulled over picking all 3 liberals and neither fascist

I'll take it

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54 bad but 5x was always blue

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Honestly that was a brilliant inv blue

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You inv blued the one person who it doesn't help libs at all to inv blue

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Nah if i pick a gov it has to pass I'm confirmed liberal shooting my lib inver

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Yeah you got away with being incredibly anti-town

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Like 56 is the default pick and it just loses, your 45 play was huge for fascism

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I really did want to pick Bailey because i was pretty sure 67 contains Hitler and Bailey just doesn't have a line

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Nah bailey 67 has hitty for sure

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Honestly i don't feel good about my play 52 should have been picked i knew for sure 67 has hit 2 is just always lib