secret shitler V: why is the marathon forum still open [7/7]

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kek



sure

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Is for me?

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Who is let's ride

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Hi

I'm am liberalism

Pls no paranoia

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thonk

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They're just Biden their time

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Dwlee: how to change chance nom

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someone give me a useful reaction

no

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I'm picking pooky because if he's fascist he outs fascist so I'll have an easy time in a conflict despite general paranoia vs me

pick: pooky

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RB

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I know all the probabilities in this game so if you are curious about a probability on something just ask

The odds dwlee is a lying scumbag is not 33% no matter how you look at it

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And you also should consider Bayesian logic like what are the odds dwlee passes rrb if he has two blues as reg f

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They * sorry

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wouldnt that involve knowing how dwlee plays as fasc

Dwlee: how to change chance nom

this did cross my mind...

3R

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Ok so what I was gonna say was

The implication that dwlee 100% drops a blue as fascist is semi incoherent

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thats tilting

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I'm a little sus of rc tbh

And o was gonna say that i actually liked dwlee snap-nomming

I'm sus of you

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I'll ja for reasons

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I want peta to have a gov as president

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The odds that me andante dwlee are all lib is fairly small atp btw

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I'll just conflict skitter she's obvious fascist this game

Keep us both out of government and you have 2 fascists and 3 liberals in 5

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Ok Peta

If you're lib and I'm lib GL winning

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I'll just conflict skitter she's obvious fascist this game

Keep us both out of government and you have 2 fascists and 3 liberals in 5

Why it looks stupid to me

Because she's fascist

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I have no winrate if Skitter is liberal and she is fascist well over 2/3 of the time and I'll gladly take those odds

I'll ja Pooky then

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And i'm p sure dwlee is lib

And i think both peta and andante are as well but not as confidently

You have zero reason to be p sure Dwlee is lib

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peta is L so yall all better ja

I'm not jaing an x skitter gov

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I'll just conflict skitter she's obvious fascist this game

Keep us both out of government and you have 2 fascists and 3 liberals in 5

Why it looks stupid to me

Because she's fascist

No, like fine
Why keep self as well, if you are liberal.

Skitter is 100% confirmed fascist this is no longer just a value call on having high winrate if she's fascist and none if she's lib, that just isn't lib

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And i'm p sure dwlee is lib

And i think both peta and andante are as well but not as confidently

You have zero reason to be p sure Dwlee is lib

The fast nom
Idk why you think that's zero reason

I'm not responding to you anymore so I would avoid asking me questions

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I'll ja both presidents who didn't pick Skitter.

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RC this sounds identical to me being "confirmed fascist" after not playing cards last game

This is how SH works

When two people think each other are fascist you remove them both from play because conflicts drastically increase liberal winrate when they are correct

Me and skitter are big kids who can be trusted with our accusations, one of us is fascist one is liberal neither of us are touching the deck again

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Idk if RC-Fasc have any merit of just randomaccusing

Doesn't matter if I'm liberal you still have 80% winrate just following my conflict and I'll take those odds

Just play outside of me and skitter

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enchant we r literally not sorting between RC/Skitter because it's pointless to do it.

as long as they both are not in gov its fine

I can't be assed to defend myself when I'm guilty until proven innocent, conflicts is how SH works. Just play.

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Peta if you think that you and skitter are two libs build a bridge get over it and play outside of her and I

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Ok so you just hard side with the line where I'm fascist Peta

Man if you're lib this game is taxing on my opinion of you

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Let's just go

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This game leaves a sour taste in my mouth, I got 3red and at least one lib is hard fascsiding

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You're all sus

go ja

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Here's a quick comment for those who are actually playing to win this game: Skitter neined this government. Skitter knows she's not playing. Skitter knows it's passing and if it doesn't Pooky plays who she calls scum. There is no reason to nein that as liberal. The only reason to nein that is as fascist who wants to look good when it reds with the knowledge that a fasc is in gov.

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There's literally no justification for skitter neining from a liberal point of view because she already called the other option fascist.

This isn't rocket science.

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You're investigating Dwlee btw

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Here's a quick comment for those who are actually playing to win this game: Skitter neined this government. Skitter knows she's not playing. Skitter knows it's passing and if it doesn't Pooky plays who she calls scum. There is no reason to nein that as liberal. The only reason to nein that is as fascist who wants to look good when it reds with the knowledge that a fasc is in gov.

This is a hard resign from skitter btw

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No you never invest in conflict

That just adds to the conflict

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The invest is dwlee because he's chance go

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is it worth using investigation to clear the skitter/rc conflict?

Knock yourself out

Skitter doesn't need it explained why this is a bad idea btw she's not completely devoid of mechanical understanding. Someone who invests in us isn't confirmed liberal so the result becomes worthless

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Ok Pooky takes gov if it reds we SE Dwlee

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It's ok Pooky you're mathematically the most liberal player on table already

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Btw to explain that

It's a claimed 2 blue deck

Pooky is the non toucher who isn't in conflict

He's mathematically most liberal in game

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Omg dwlee I'm sorry I'm exhausted

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Pooky is mathematically the most liberal slot at table btw

I'll say that again for those in the back

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Go ja

If Pooky confed himself Dwlee is conf lib and they can carry

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Pooky is mathematically the most liberal slot at table btw

I'll say that again for those in the back

Because ...

No toucher of 2 blue deck

Even if I'm fascist a co fascist has to also be my president AND 2b in 5 also had to happen

Odds of Pooky lib are extremely high even from your point of view if you had a point of view

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Conflict or no

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I mean we don't win this

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Just se dwlee

We lose to 15

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Ok great

Dwlee is confirmed liberal

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Se dwlee faster

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Dwlee is literally confirmed liberal unless RC skitter 2l

Two conflicts that don't include them

Can we move

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I really hope Peta isn't Hitler then gl

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You can pick whoever you want

It doesn't matter you are confirmed lib you have choice of se

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ja

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No

And you may need to pick in conflict and shoot the person you pick if they play red, you have choice of gov for good or ill

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Ok well I'm gonna ask you to pop Skitter if you're lib

I'm pretty over this game regardless, libs had an unwinnable deck no matter what combination of players is liberal

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I dont know why we're exeing but exe pooky

This don't make a lot of sense tbh

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Andante is mathematically most fascist player for being pres and being in gov

I still prefer Skitter to get shot

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Dwlee if you're fasc just shoot Skitter and I'll ja you again and blame the game on her

If not then shoot her anyway

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I'll ja dwlee again let's move

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What do the numbers mean mason

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VORKUTA

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WHAT HAPPENED IN VORKUTA

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It doesn't matter

If dwlee is fascist Skitter is liberal and I'll take that lost

Can we just move

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Ok sure go pass to dwlee

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*nap*

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Ok

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You shot Andante

So you resigned to Pooky being liberal

So you pick Pooky here btw

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If you shot wrong we lose anyway

Highest winrate is to play as if Andante was shot fascist

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If it's RC pooky cakez then cakez is clearly the hitty

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Let's just end the game

I'm not stupid I know what happened

Go ja

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Peta you understand that Andante and Dwlee can't be two liberals right

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Peta you understand that Andante and Dwlee can't be two liberals right

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gg either way

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so like

there was 1 liberal president and they rrred and the entire lib team decided that despite there being a bunch of cards missing the only fascist was the only liberal who touched deck

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Who am I heiling

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Fasc can you just say who Hitler is

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Mafia is a lame game because you can auto scumread people and you don't take much of a penalty for it. Actions in SH have consequences which is why it's a much better game and despite the poor deck I think this loss was wholly justified by the way the game went.

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Dwlee are you hitler

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Not true it's 5 way

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Pick: Dwlee

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Nah in 5 way you can be chanc after being pres

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Wasn't going to try for TD winrate

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gg

honestly expecting to win after the only lib president 3rs is a very long shot but I also feel like the way things went is fairly justified by the actions people took

SH isn't mafia if you play as if a lib is fascist in SH you lose

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I'll play another

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Bottom two cards both blue, Dwlee dropped on RBB huh

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I thought 51 was double drop

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Philosophically I've come to lose respect for mafia as a game because I think the connection between your play and the outcome is significantly less intuitive and direct than in the other games I play. I like SH and Avalon because you take stances and if they're right you instantly have high winrate. If you're wrong you instantly have low winrate. I'm sorry for conflicting Skitter but we just aren't winning if she is lib who has no other scumreads besides a lib.

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I feel like you appreciate games way more if you take them really seriously and try to understand the underlying dynamics well enough to master them.

I... don't actually respect SH all that much. I don't really respect mafia that much either for similar reasons. To me Avalon is the best social deduction game and it's not even close. You could spend a lifetime playing it and still keep learning new things.

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Idk SH isn't really very artistic. I think mafia can be art. Avalon though is a thing of beauty