Dogs Vs. Cats Mafia | Endgame

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VOTE: raya36

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holy crap there are a lot of posts

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my avatar's a rat
my fursona's a wolf
i guess that makes me aligned with the dogs in this fight?

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i'm not anti-posting per se but i wouldn't mind more content, i read everything and there's bits and pieces but it's hard to suss them out from all the fluff.

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Are you trying to derail the xofelf wagon, Andante?

yes, yes I am. I don't like the xofelf wagon

why don't you like the xofelf wagon

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@Andante - why don't you like the xofelf wagon

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VOTE: xofelf

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314 and 690 both ping me. 314 is a little jumpy and 587 was a bad post so i'm not sure why xof is calling it out as #goodposting. plus andante/xof are giving me connected vibes. it's not an earth shattering case, i know, but it's better than my random vote.

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Are you trying to derail the xofelf wagon, Andante?

yes, yes I am. I don't like the xofelf wagon

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andante why won't you answer my question

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xof how does kaz's readlist make you feel

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VOTE: Andante

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you come across a lot more different when you're being schemey and lying.

gotta work on that for my survivor game

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VOTE: Andante

This blind vote on a rising wagon is concerning me.

andante has ignored me entirely despite me attempting to engage them, why is this concerning? it shouldn't be a surprise that i'm voting her here

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Are you trying to derail the xofelf wagon, Andante?

yes, yes I am. I don't like the xofelf wagon

why don't you like the xofelf wagon

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andante why won't you answer my question

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where

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i go by STD or Dragons, either is fine

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the T is capitalized in my username

i remember modding newbies but i don't remember individual games unfortunately, but i always liked modding/playing newbies and watching the players migrate from newbie to non-newbie games

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Im glad i see people moving votes not onto andante because honestly don't have the high energy tonight to fight wagons and bark at you all

why are you against the andante wagon?

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are you a cat murderer or a cat who murders

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Vote:norwegianboyEE

Worst vote on a bad wagon.

Rodent friends rise against the cats. No longer shall we lie down to be eaten. Today we fight back.

why do you think the wagon is bad?

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Kazyan what's your take on Pooky now?

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VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

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how is it opportunistic when you had one vote on you

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how is it opportunistic when you had one vote on you

Unwd posted that paragraph about me because i was relatively inactive earlier today and then you voted me, it felt really opportunistic to me. Especially since you seemed to be questioning a vote on me from Shiro earlier on?

you should reread my post then, i'm questioning why shiro thought the andante wagon was bad?

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how is it opportunistic when you had one vote on you

Unwd posted that paragraph about me because i was relatively inactive earlier today and then you voted me, it felt really opportunistic to me. Especially since you seemed to be questioning a vote on me from Shiro earlier on?

you should reread my post then, i'm questioning why shiro thought the andante wagon was bad?

Well your vote on me is still lame and it feels like you're just following the consensus.

again, what consensus? you had one vote on you. even with unwnd's post i'd hardly call that consensus.

i'm voting you based on a gut read.

i don't think you're taking pressure well. and instead of re-evaluating, you double down on your OMGUS vote.

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i think Raya's scummy, we can talk about that.

okay, why?

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i think Raya's scummy, we can talk about that.

okay, why?

Raya's toadette read stood out because she gave the reasoning as toadette having a contentful entrance in comparison to others. fine for earlygame, but Raya continued to question scumreads on the slot while catching and the read feels like it has more strength than is warranted.

that and the Kaz read, which i did talk to Raya about and i can see the angle there, but it does also seem to me like an easy read to make, you see busywork and call it scummy and then you can use that to direct the rest of your posting. i remember Raya quoting a post someone else made about how the pro posting/anti posting list was weird, but then Kaz did put out a readlist afterwards, and Raya interacted with the part about the busywork list being pointless and possibly lamisty but it didn't feel like she was really digging into why it was made.

i'd like to discuss both these points when she returns to the thread though. the problem may also be that Raya's stuck playing catchup whenever she has time to post.

what is your read on toadette and kaz?

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i don't really like the beeboy wagon, but the whole meta trust tell thing makes me uncomfy

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I've seen two of Andante's town games, and one thing that I haven't seen her do in them is to repeatedly assert that she's town--which she's doing in this one. I won't jump to conclusions and call that a scum tell, though.

i feel like in the game below she says she is town a lot.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86324

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VOTE: Kazyan

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why are we bbqing dogs

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dragons do the bbqing

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i want to i was waiting for an invite

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yesssssssssssssss

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xofelf do you typically not vote?

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i feel like i annoyed you in RoTIGBSM (or w/e it's called), can you cite an example where scum have annoyed you?

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before that when i was pushing you

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andante?

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i was more waiting for an answer to my question

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can you cite an example where scum have annoyed you?

for the record in that game you said things like the below which makes me think i was annoying you.

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... how the heck is that ate?? I was pissed off IRL, told yall I was just gonna go away instead of throwing out personal attacks. I wasn't trying to appeal to anyone's emotions.

You are literally REACHING for every "reason" I can be scum... and you know you're reaching too. again, setting up for my town flip, cause you know I'm flipping town. "this can come from frustrated town"


I'm done conversing with you, this is literally going no where.
@anyone who is town, if you can't see why dragon is scum from this exchange this morning. whatever

no. I'm literally over this. you didn't think for a second I could be town based on my response?

ok, thank you for being nicer.

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my point is it's a counter example to your claim that annoying you = scum. can you cite an example where annoying you has lead to scum?

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VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

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i don't like how he handled the pressure of both being voted and from unwnd's posts towards him

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i don't like how he handled the pressure of both being voted and from unwnd's posts towards him

So you think he is the scummiest one here?

yes i trust my gut on this one

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It’s a crappy bandwagon.

see he posts junk like this

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It’s a crappy bandwagon.

see he posts junk like this

I’ll stop posting again then.

ok i'll bite

ignore the wagon on you

who do you think is scum?

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i'm just happy i made the vote count this time

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i do not

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xofelf do you typically not vote?

Yeah actually. I do a lot of only voting when I feel sure on a person not being a net positive for town. If you're the sort of person who does meta, you can check my last few games. Though if you're looking to see if it's a scumtell of mine, unfortunately you'll have to go very very far back to find a game that I rolled scum and I wasn't in a hydra.

(Quite a few pages behind, that'll teach me not to sleep all day)

i town read you i just am mostly curious where your head is at and i'm generally a fan of always voting

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are you scum?

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It’s a crappy bandwagon.

see he posts junk like this

there's nothing wrong with that post, he's right

what's ass about it

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yeah i meant when you referred to the wagon as ass i quoted the wrong post

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I don't think the reasoning is any good at all and I don't think anyone has explained it

for me it was mostly a gut read. i don't like his calling me out for voting andante and then voting andante. so i pushed it, and i get a lot of "caught scum" vibes from his posts. maybe he's always like that, i don't know. i'm not sure i care too much about meta, it's more of a tone thing i guess? he's my top scum read at the moment so i'd like to keep pushing, see what we get out of him.

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kdowns what are your other reads besides andante?

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They initially voted me for being "bad vote on a bad wagon" and even though i explained the reasoning behind my vote and evolved my reads from that point they still just seem super confident and post ridiculous gifs cheering on my death.

I remember asking you a question but if you'd rather I post gifs I can do that instead

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When you say ignore my wagon does that mean you think there aren't any scum on there or that i shouldn't consider it, when it's the single most AI thing in thread so far?

i'm saying instead of calling your wagon crappy tell me something useful about the gamestate

if you want to tell me "stuff it, STD, you're an idiot and scum are on my wagon, here's who they are" that's fine too i'm curious what your thoughts are

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murdercat - what changed from 1196 "let's give beeboy more time" to 1948 "titus is doomed" and 1968 your vote on the slot?

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i could be wrong but i was assuming pooky was townreading or at least trying to suss out his cult

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what the balls

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back in the 90s i was on a famous tv show...

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bojack horseman is a good show but it has nothing to do with aliens

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you guys know that alien is also a role...

My role PM suggests Aliens as an alignment.

is it worded different from the Timon example

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and can anyone tell me what bojack horseman has to do with aliens cuz ive been googling and found like nothing

can confirm bojack horseman has nothing to do with aliens. it bothers me a little but i feel like ultimately the titus slot resolves itself and i can wait.

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what exactly are you suggesting

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i kind of liked 2474. NorwegianboyEE, you should give reads on slots that you don't know as well, though. a lot of us are in the same boat here. i'm not sold but i'm not sure it's what i want to do today anymore.

what happened to the kazyan wagon

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VOTE: murdercat

let's do it

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murdercat 180s on the beeboy/titus slot in a way that seems opportunistic

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i'm confused

what were you expecting beeboy to do? why would beeboy coming back make the slot not worth voting but a replacement is worth voting? how is that not opportunistic to target the replacement no matter what they had to say?

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what general sentiment can you quote others

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it does seem weird for fb to be like "murdercat wagon bad, let me join it"

i think the biggest reason i was voting murdercat was just a misunderstanding on my part and now i'm not sure if i feel it.

oh there are firebringer votes let's try that
VOTE: firebringer

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what's the case on anya?

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i hate xof not voting but i don't think it's AI

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i'm still waiting to be called dragonheart by BHL and i'm sad it hasn't happened yet

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VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

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i liked murdercat's catch up i don't really want to vote for them. i also was mistaken about what they said and that was my main point against them, without that the only thing is they were busy?

i'm not saying i believe titus's claim but it's going to resolve itself so i don't think we need to lim that slot. plus i think andante is town and if they have reason to believe in titus maybe i should too.

i could do fb but there didn't seem to be a lot of traction

i could do norway too but i also thought it was weird iveyo was like "does anyone want to do norway?" without voting for them

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i did

it's master splinter from teenage mutant ninja turtles, i've had various versions of him as my avatar

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i like to think he adds a bit of wisdom in my posts

but then i speak and that goes out the window

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VOTE: firebringer

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VOTE: norwayboyee

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i've had my heart broken before

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We have some support, how many people are down for Norwee cause I am and have been

vote norway

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if at first you don't succeed try a fifth time

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i'm pretty sure i have it embroidered on a pillow somewhere

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kazyan you've voted norway before, why is murdercat a better option?

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kazyan you've voted norway before, why is murdercat a better option?

flow trap same question

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every day i stray further from

god

believing in titus's claim

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VOTE: Titus

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I wanted to take a look at Farkan's interactions with Norwee since I originally thought they could be aligned if Norwee flipped scum. But...

Pooky is also town, probably

Norwee are you town? I need some people to work with

i don't know if someone blatantly calls out their partner like that

I would like Fark to tell me more why he thinks Norwee is town.

Meta read, i played with norwee a fair amount of games. I am not 100% sure yet though it sounds like town norwee to me.

It is Unwd. And you're one of the more arrogant players i've met to think you've "caught me" because i made some light jokes in a game.

Also this is 100% town!norwee

he defends norwee pretty strongly perhaps too much

I know where you come from since i've been scumreading norwee as town in the past, but i am confident he's town here. I want to learn all the standings on people on wagon if he happens to be flipped - although i suggest that he isn't.

i don't think this comes from defending a partner's wagon again it's a pretty strong defense. either he's pretty ballsy in hoping norwee doesn't flip or more likely he genuinely believed norwee was town.

re: the quote above, i am curious what he thinks though considering Norwee was flipped.

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VOTE: flow trap

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Are we claiming pokemon now? Sick.

I'm lycanroc

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This day has gone on too long let's end it

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VOTE: andante

Well well well

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Andante is being rung up because kdowns made it pretty obvious he was a dog cop by acting like one then claiming dog cop

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Famed dog cop the brain

Does shea watch any of the shows/movies these things come from

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sorry cats I think you have to waste a shot on me now

HEADLINE: Murder cats murder murdercat

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lol sucks to be a dog

VOTE: Titus

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what is this in response to?

The post above, I don't like it

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see now I want to unvote so we don't get another too fast hammer BUT THEN WITH MY LUCK TITUS WILL FLIP SCUM AND PEOPLE WILL THINK IM HER BUDDY
NO THANKS

As far as I'm aware being hesitant to move your vote cause you might seems scummy is something scum does

cake's opening today seems really town to me

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see now I want to unvote so we don't get another too fast hammer BUT THEN WITH MY LUCK TITUS WILL FLIP SCUM AND PEOPLE WILL THINK IM HER BUDDY
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As far as I'm aware being hesitant to move your vote cause you might seems scummy is something scum does

cake's opening today seems really town to me

Well, since everyone is asking me to explain things...

Your turn

i mean announcing you want to unvote but being hesitant to do so seems not scum motivated. their frustration and confusion seems real. i just don't see cat or dog mafia acting in that way after the death of two doggos.

maybe he's an alien oooooooooooooooooo spooky

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also i was townreading cakes anyway

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kdownheart gave the result that resulted in andanteheart being lim'd?

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i think everyone you mentioned posted yesterday...

i get your point but why are you voting titus in that case? why not just not vote?

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i don't know if Titus is a cat or an alien or a french horn but i can't say i believe the claim suddenly just because she's not a dog

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I will be much more on board with Titus push if someone shows she is partners with norwee.

you don't think it's possible his reluctance to vote titus has to do with them being aligned?

It's annoying because i don't really prefer Titus as an lim, but it's like i can only vote thee to not die right now.

I'm getting tired, there's nothing to say. I don't know why i'm the one being wagoned, i just am. And i don't think Titus is scum.
Shrug.
Eliminate this when i flip?
VOTE: Flow Trap

Don't eliminate Titus with a townflip on me. I don't think they are scum here.

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My VCA gut says I am run up because one of Shiro/Norway is scum but Anya's flops just ping so hard and Shiro isn't lurking like they tend to do as scum. I need to give Norway a read.

expresses doubt on norway in particular

If most of my wagon is town, then I'd bet Norway and Shiro are town as scum wouldn't need another wagon. This also holds some truth for Adante and Kazyan.

suggests norway could be town but hides it with other names

Shiro wasn't on that page, but I usually find Shiro easier to read so I picked Shiro over EE. Shiro's activity (as indicated by quotes and his reply to me, indicates a townier Shiro so I moved my vote. I'm not opposed to an EE wagon. I am trying to figure out if it's all T v T v T though, so I'm in no rush to end the day.

gets called out for specifically avoiding norwee and voting shiro instead

I suspect Kazyan, Adante, NorwegianboyEE, and Firebringer as scum atm.

switches to scum read but hides it with a bunch of names (adds Anya's later)

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

I don't have a problem with anyone on this wagon.

votes norwee here

NorwegianboyEE can you give me reads?

I'm stuck with a problem that I don't really SR your wagon, I don't see much content from you, but I don't see why scum you doesn't want me dead?

asks for reads and expresses doubt in her read

My initial reads were anya, NorwegianboyEE, Adante, and kazyan. All except anya have defended me in ways I don't think come from scum which confuses me.

I welcome you rereading me and questioning my thought process as my dissonance says I am wrong somewhere.

UNVOTE: NorwegianboyEE

decides she doesn't scumread norwee anymore and gets off.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

Fuck it. I want to play LoL. This game is super srs.

hammers when it's inevitable.

I could EASILY see this being a partner.

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Don't eliminate Titus with a townflip on me. I don't think they are scum here.

This one in particular is weird, norwee probably knew he was likely to go though so it's probably all wifom?

it wasn't inevitable at this point

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VOTE: pooky

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i probably should go back to titus but i don't like pooky's jump off.

basically all pooky has done entire game is

-do a gimmick - maybe expressing town reads here?
-push beeboy/titus - one SR in multiball and it's gone now
-defend himself

i feel like town pooky tries to solve the game a little more. even his gimmick seems kind of half-assed from what i've seen him do in the past. i dunno. i guess i expect a little more.

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Fen said pretty much all I've been thinking about Pooky. Like, this sort of effort doesn't feel towny to me. Enough so that,

VOTE: Pooky

holy shit xof voted

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just do everything twice

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can you provide an example

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if you look at his iso he forgets sometimes that he scumreads me

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@other people am i wrong? Share your pov on the situation please

i am gelling with all you are saying

i'll admit i may have been wrong about pooky having 1 scum read d1 but i don't see a lot of push other than for beeboy/titus.

i'm going back and forth because i think titus could be scum and i just don't know if they're scum together or not. it's a lot of bussing but if pooky knows a) beeboy is scum and b) beeboy doesn't play as scum, then why not take the shot for towncred? i know i know it's multiball that could be dangerous.

there's just something off about pooky's play this game.

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Norwee can you do something useful like help us kill beeboy

you can go back to pretending to be a cat tomorrow or whatever.

this is neutral

I don't get what norwee is doing

like he's saying he'd rather die instead of titus? like lol what

is there something i'm missing? i would consider that you might be scumreading norwee here but i don't see it as a bus or catching him

your push on dwlee is stronger

i will promise to drive the dwlee elim tomm after titus flips red today

dwlee feels scummy to me because his opinion on titus feels like it has more conviction than it should

so i'll give you credit for that but it just means you are less likely to be aligned with dwlee. it still could be a bus, though but i find it more likely it isn't

i mean you could be bussing beeboy/titus but that hasn't flipped so i guess i shouldn't be treating it as a bus, it's just a theory.

but even so reducing the argument to "pooky is bussing" or trying to argue that "pooky caught scum" seems a little disingenuous to me unless titus flips red.

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if you're voting pooky for bussing, jump off or claim a better reasoning.

there we've solved that problem

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HOW DOES HE KNOW THAT

I ASKED HIM 4 TIMES AND HE'S AVOIDED IT

it is weird that he avoided the question i wouldn't mind an explanation

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i think i know what you are and i'm an idiot so i bet scum probably figured it out

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the farkan votes need to go away

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How aboyt we go back to the alien Cop where aliens dont exist

only if you call me dragonheart

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i've been waiting all game thank you

VOTE: titus

unless scum are really dumb they figured it out by now so i wouldn't worry about it.

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i still wouldn't mind a pooky lim either tho

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Meh ok then, chara pretty much literally said it lol

I am a DOG DOCTOR. I protect people from dog attacks only.

I healed Nero Cain n1 and that's how i know he wasn't killed by dogs.

I healed kdowns n2 and that's how, i think, we're missing a dog kill.

I've been crumbing this literally FOREVER.

See you again in another game after i die tonight, i tried my best but my results were only bad reads and 4 votes ln d3. Please carry me.

P.S. i still think pooky is scum

meh i'm trying to figure out if it's beneficial to ask for flavor

i guess i want to know if your role makes sense (like remus lupin appearing as a dog because he's a werewolf canonically) or if it's out there (like bojack horseman hunting aliens) because kdowns was a little closer to the latter and if yours is too maybe i need to rethink titus

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Anyone else thinking that claim came early?

why do you think it was too early? were you paying attention to the crumbs he dropped today?

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VOTE: pooky

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VOTE: Titus

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i'm not sure how many times we have to say you barely SR norwee but

you barely SR norwee

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so

aliens

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xofelf are you still feeling pooky?

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thank you for birthday messages

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i mean

kdowns caught andante

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Happy birthday dragons!

thank you!

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Didnt we just go over this

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VOTE: toadette

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y not

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i'm not sure. i need to reread some of the game but something is pinging me about toadette's posts, not sure if it's just playstyle though. in the meantime it seems like an okay place for my vote.

plus she keeps calling me scum and it's starting to hurt my feelings :<

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can you convince me on raya

wasn't chara one of the people that most scumread raya or am i misremembering

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i think Raya's scummy, we can talk about that.

okay, why?

Raya's toadette read stood out because she gave the reasoning as toadette having a contentful entrance in comparison to others. fine for earlygame, but Raya continued to question scumreads on the slot while catching and the read feels like it has more strength than is warranted.

that and the Kaz read, which i did talk to Raya about and i can see the angle there, but it does also seem to me like an easy read to make, you see busywork and call it scummy and then you can use that to direct the rest of your posting. i remember Raya quoting a post someone else made about how the pro posting/anti posting list was weird, but then Kaz did put out a readlist afterwards, and Raya interacted with the part about the busywork list being pointless and possibly lamisty but it didn't feel like she was really digging into why it was made.

i'd like to discuss both these points when she returns to the thread though. the problem may also be that Raya's stuck playing catchup whenever she has time to post.

i don't think raya is a cat i don't think chara pushes a scum buddy out of the blue, but chara was probably scumhunting here and the read could be accurate so as in life i don't know where i'm going with this post

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VOTE: Psyche

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mehhhh

UNVOTE: psyche

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I agree I'm not bad I'm not great I'm in general ok

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VOTE: psyche

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i didn't tr kazyan or uc voyager so i think psyche is a good lim for today. i hate not giving a replacement time to catch up though so i am conflicted.

i could probably do pooky too. i don't know how i feel about something_smart. i tr raya, flow, and anya. was there anyone else that was brought up as a lim target?

it is weird how stagnant this game has gotten.

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VOTE: pooky

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VOTE: anya

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why raya?

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i don't like the defeatist attitude but i don't think S_S is scum here

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VOTE: pooky

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will try to have more thoughts later

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probably willing to lim {Pooky, BHL, Toadette, Flea} today. everyone else i kind of town read. but an alien kind of obfuscates things

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because you're so fetch

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i just don't see scum!xof doing a big readslist like that. i don't see scum!xof based on d1 play from them.

i think pooky has spent 90% of this game defending himself and 10% tunneling beeboy and that just doesn't seem like what i'd expect out of town!pooky.

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well have you been a bad bear?

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1. I haven't spent 90% of the game defending myself.

you've spent a disproportionate amount defending vs scum hunting imo

2. I only defend myself when I get attacked because that's what you're supposed to do when you get attacked, the alternative would be to let people murder you.

see my response to 1

3. I've been attacked by both flipped cats and dogs.

doesn't mean anything

4. Have you actually read the content of the xof readslist? almost all of it is wishy-washy buddying and I don't see any reads that are based on actual motive-assignment, strategy etc. all of it seems to be some cute half buddying talk that sounds like it comes from a survivor game where xof is trying to buddy half the game while saying to the other half "you've been naughty" based not on anything they've done but on how xof feels about them.

do you really think scum doesn't know who did the lie detector test? i feel like you're attacking them for tone which isn't really that AI, it's just the way they speak.

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You complaining about me defending myself is ridiculous. Scum do not want to defend themselves, they'd rather just ignore the accusations and hope they randomly go away and it goes nowhere.

this is wine

So you're telling me what matters isn't what the bad guys we know for sure did, but the fact that I've had to spend my time defending myself from the attacks of the bad guys all game hence I am scum?

this is a misrep i never said you were scum because you had to defend against two teams, i said it doesn't mean anything, you could have been bussed it happens

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i said you're scum because you've spent most of the game defending yourself instead of scumhunting

it's possible to do both

i don't think you've scumhunt very much

hence

my vote

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you

aren't

scumhunting

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show me

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314 and 690 both ping me. 314 is a little jumpy and 587 was a bad post so i'm not sure why xof is calling it out as #goodposting. plus andante/xof are giving me connected vibes. it's not an earth shattering case, i know, but it's better than my random vote.

how is it opportunistic when you had one vote on you

Unwd posted that paragraph about me because i was relatively inactive earlier today and then you voted me, it felt really opportunistic to me. Especially since you seemed to be questioning a vote on me from Shiro earlier on?

you should reread my post then, i'm questioning why shiro thought the andante wagon was bad?

Well your vote on me is still lame and it feels like you're just following the consensus.

again, what consensus? you had one vote on you. even with unwnd's post i'd hardly call that consensus.

i'm voting you based on a gut read.

i don't think you're taking pressure well. and instead of re-evaluating, you double down on your OMGUS vote.

i don't like how he handled the pressure of both being voted and from unwnd's posts towards him

murdercat - what changed from 1196 "let's give beeboy more time" to 1948 "titus is doomed" and 1968 your vote on the slot?

i could do norway too but i also thought it was weird iveyo was like "does anyone want to do norway?" without voting for them

i don't know if Titus is a cat or an alien or a french horn but i can't say i believe the claim suddenly just because she's not a dog

I will be much more on board with Titus push if someone shows she is partners with norwee.

you don't think it's possible his reluctance to vote titus has to do with them being aligned?

It's annoying because i don't really prefer Titus as an lim, but it's like i can only vote thee to not die right now.

I'm getting tired, there's nothing to say. I don't know why i'm the one being wagoned, i just am. And i don't think Titus is scum.
Shrug.
Eliminate this when i flip?
VOTE: Flow Trap

Don't eliminate Titus with a townflip on me. I don't think they are scum here.

i'm not sure. i need to reread some of the game but something is pinging me about toadette's posts, not sure if it's just playstyle though. in the meantime it seems like an okay place for my vote.

plus she keeps calling me scum and it's starting to hurt my feelings :<

i didn't tr kazyan or uc voyager so i think psyche is a good lim for today. i hate not giving a replacement time to catch up though so i am conflicted.

probably willing to lim {Pooky, BHL, Toadette, Flea} today. everyone else i kind of town read. but an alien kind of obfuscates things

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i could do toadette, much prefer that to xofelf

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VOTE: toadette

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pretty sure the xof push is awful

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because i don't think she's a real girl

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i town read pretty much everyone i didn't previously call out. the tone has seemed off and it could just be the whole real girl toadette thing that she's doing but i think it could come from scum.

but no i don't have a conveniently placed readslist i can shit on while ignoring the entirety of the rest of their play

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yee

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why do you want me to name colors

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everybody getting prodded up in here

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probably should let toadette respond, yes

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i'm here but don't have much to offer i don't really think raya is scum but i guess i could be wrong and I don't know how to not stagnate the game

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i just feel it in my jellies

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i don't think chara goes so hard on raya if they're paired but i don't have any reason to feel raya isn't a dog or an alien tbh

i don't know i could be wrong