Dogs Vs. Cats Mafia | Endgame

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Hi I want everyone to know I'm a REAL GIRL the human flavor for the scream does NOT preclude me from being mafia because I am the MAFIA QUEEN the crown power up makes me PEACHETTE which I AM

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*game not scream

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I do gotta say, I appreciate just how large that votecount font is.

This is mafia

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Our stupid mod can't even page top. I'm surrounded by worthlessness.

Oh that sounds like a super big problem, lemme help you fix that.

VOTE: Nero Cain

I connect deeply with this post

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Unfortunately it's also mafia though

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I don't think even anya knows what she is

Fluffposts after saying stop the fluff

what serious conversation is going on right now?!? we may have just found our first enemy.

Very little and that was my point, you said stop the fluff but what you were saying around it didn't stop the jokey enviroment.
Unless you meant like, animal fluff, inwhich case I'm dumb

I agree with ur point about that people saying stop the fluff is meant to look productive but usually isn't and most of time could indicate scum but here it just seems like a nero cain thing to do.

Townish kind of thinking about the game criticly.

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Ivy i am unsure of at the moment, i thought Nero's reaction was fine, but unwnd's immediate "i don't think Ivy would be this brash as scum" makes me wonder, i didn't think she was being all that brash. what's Ivy like as scum, unwnd?

I think I had bits of similar thoughts. If it means anything and admittedly it might not I think it would mean unwound is mafia.

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I appreciate that you got a profile picture. What's screaming out to you about those posts?

The second one isn't scummy, to be clear. It's null. I just wanted to quote it because big mood. The second one was the kind of fluff someone posts to clock into a game they're required to engage in as scum instead of something fun to post. I don't think all fluffposts are scummy. So it's hard to explain exactly why that specific one is. But I think it's more likely the thought doesn't seem worth making a post when x of elf is town.

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I don't want this discussion to give off the appearance I am town who needs to find the mafia btw though I am a REAL GIRL

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i'm a chameleon

quack

Anya is re-enacting the ending of the excellent feature film "The Emperor's New Groove"

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I'm three pages in and this game is amazing

Town

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BIG "I'm scum but that's not why" energy from the fox

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But I'm caught up now and Cakez pointing out the game is bastard which I vaguely remember being a true point from signups has sapped my wim down a bit so I'm out of shrooms for now

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VOTE: xofelf

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It's ok I wanted to out pretty early this game.
And Pandora is sniffing my mascaraa which is a gamee theme related anecdote that I'd need to out to share so

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I wasn't even browsing on Isis I was browsing logged out and logged into Isis to post lol

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I am in the cat alliance firedog

You will be defeated

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What's wrong with StD hasn't anyone heard of leaving articles uncapitalized

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StD do you remember modding my very first newbie game

I think I actually had a similar avatar!?!?

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the T is capitalized in my username

i remember modding newbies but i don't remember individual games unfortunately, but i always liked modding/playing newbies and watching the players migrate from newbie to non-newbie games

Oh I guess I didn't think about that

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I will be a good girl (a good REAL girl) and read up to the current page even though it is a massive chunk of my pad time but I am not producing any content once I finish

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Town

lol I mean, I could've told you, if we're serious for 1 minute. Anya is most likely town, what scum would come in here trying to be the opposition... I've had her in my town pool for a while lol

this read on me so good though am i in a trench coat??

I mean, why would you, as scum, want all the votes on you?? unless you're tricking me again lol

i would never do that to you a second time i only like to do things an odd amount of times

Why are there so many anime you've watched zero times zero is even

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TR means townread @kdowns if that doesn't come up later

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I think it's really ride of unwnd to react to my altslip the way he did and then resonancepocket me for twenty straight pages

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*rude not ride

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don't test my patience trap wolf

keep anything even away from me

Literally all the words in that post have an even amount of letters

what kind of monster doesn't count apostrophes

all characters are equal

Some characters are less equal than others

like Daisy

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This is a big game with lots of new people but please try to put in an effort to get pronouns right for those who have a preference. Sometimes people don't correct you themselves because they don't have the spoons even if it did matter to them.

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Hi Pooky

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Reck in normal roguelike tho

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beeboy, kdowns, brave heart lion, toadette, fire, Flea, Chara

I will be watching these people closely

*twirls her myctail*

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V/LA 24 hours

i might be active elsewhere on site this is just the day of this week that willb e the worst

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I'd like to give beeboy some more time tbh

I'm just gonna state this now.

If beeboy gets replaced for inactivity or request I'm gonna be pushing to policy elim the slot so I don't want his teammates to get their hopes up that they can be saved by the bell or some shit

why wouldn't you want his partners to defend him in an obvscum way

why warn

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that is multiball pooky VOTE: Pooky

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i can't fall asleep but i badly need sleep

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Actually you just said I was "probably scum" with nothing else as far as I can see

That''s what I was thinking about when I said you were probably scum

Nevertheless, you can't prove it

I mean, none of us can prove anything with absolute certainty, except Pooky with Beeboy

I HAVE PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF THE CROWN POWERUP TURNING ME INTO A HUMAN AND REAL GIRL, CONFIRMING MY ALIGNMENT AS MAFIA

Spoiler: SHEA DO NOT OPEN

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Cakez I think you're town now by the way

slowpoke img

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I think Norwe is town here. they are not playing like when they slanked as my scum buddy in a recent game. much more effort.

Another aspect of it really is the fact I'm pretty sure Beeboy is not posting because he's scum. This is something I'm not really a fan of in general. It's exactly as Pooky said where it's reaching a trust tell and it has to be stopped. I will vote Beeboy every time under this pretense and if people don't see my own interpretations then they could at least have faith that this tell is truth. The people who are skirting around the issue at this point in a confbiased perspective are just potential mates who either A) pissed at him for flaking again B) trying to not lose a partner due to dumb shit. I don't really think all partners would assume the same thing and just tell me 'oh well maybe he's just busy' but I think Norwee and Farkran's response to it was the worst. Seriously Farkran how could you possibly townread Beeboy here for like two fucking posts lol. That immediately just tripped my alarms and Norwee is again playing to the whole latching on aspect.

my thing here is I'm worried beeboy is just playing like this now and he just happens to have rolled scum a lot recently
there's no counterevidence of him being active as town

Nightmare Mafia, Purgatory, and Wolf dance, with wolf dance really getting old. Nightmare Mafia and Purgatory both precede Undertale C Open, Isis-is-an-IC-dance, and A Normal Roguelike. I heard people reference a meta for beeboy lurking as scum that dips into their <2019 meta though

The scumgames are consecutive and subsequent to the towngames though.

I dunno if beeboy has played any games I wasn't in (!) (I play too much mafia) (especially given my

REALGIRL

responsibilities)

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oh yeah the Hayasaka alt was crazy active in Achievement mafia and then Hayasaka played some other game I didn't play or follow

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Chara i'm leaning town on your slot shoudl i be scared

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I've seen Andante hyperpost like this as town, does she do this as scum or does she freeze? There's kind of a sound barrier break element where I don't want to lim someone just on being able to make a high number of posts that have some kind of topic and don't feel forced. It's just so much hard to do as scum then town and if it actually is scum putting on the ritz it often flames out in this really apparent way later on anyway

I like can't imagine this kind of slot being the best D1 elim in a 24p really

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+ we have a scumclaim, could be a mafia roleblocker or rolecop you want to get early

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implicit in the way I'm approaching 1530 is that do see how you could interpretively get a red litmus test on, hell, a dozen of her posts, but that can be outweighed by hyperblobbing

what fraction of her posts is a dozen lessee

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implicit in the way I'm approaching 1530 is that do see how you could interpretively get a red litmus test on, hell, a dozen of her posts, but that can be outweighed by hyperblobbing

what fraction of her posts is a dozen lessee

sweet mother of fawful

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don't do that Nero Cain, we get the most out of this day phase by pretending it can be people other than beeboy


ask about top 5s

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thought the rhetorical device I was using is clear, I'm saying it's beeboy but it's not helpful to talk about it

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for the record loki submited that message (in a new browser tab, apparently) with his hindleg

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is there a key that makes quick reply submit? maybe he only split the tab

hmm

if there is actually a key that makes it submit I would love to learn it, how many seconds of my life using mouse for submit does it add up to, could be big

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I can't remember anything shiro did

Large swaths of this game are hard for me to remember

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Swath is a great word

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Dwlee if I winked with my left eye in 90% of my scum games and did it in 10% of my towngames and you saw me winking with my left eye in a game where everyone in the game has a ~25% chance to be a scum would you eliminate me or hope for a different player with a 25% chance to be town who you can guess 5% better with nonmeta social deduction

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I dunno how I feel about toadette anymore. Her fight club approach to d1 has me bewildered.

The first rule of lynching Beeboy is to not talk about lynching Beeboy.

What our we going to do with the next 5 days?

I've posted that before in cakez's jailer game.

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Dwlee if I winked with my left eye in 90% of my scum games and did it in 10% of my towngames and you saw me winking with my left eye in a game where everyone in the game has a ~25% chance to be a scum would you eliminate me or hope for a different player with a 25% chance to be town who you can guess 5% better with nonmeta social deduction

In your example there would be a 75% chance of hitting scum by voting you so I'd go for it. I don't think the probabilities work out that way in our game, though.

The sample data for beeboys meta is the same

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I love pooky

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Can you link the game where he is scum and he posts? I understood people to be saying they have other examples of him being afk as town, material on the other side would matter a lot to me

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I was in epilogue and I definitely felt like there was a common thread between not posting at all and contributing very little the way he did in epilogue.

He kind of mustered something in undertale.
It's not enough of a counterexample that I would dayvig someone else but I should give it a little credence

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Pooky do you know my alignment yet

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Wait
If pooky is actually a cult recruiter do I need to play to expected final wincon??

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Or current wincon

My current wincon is I'm a real girl

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Anya is probably mafia I just don't care that much about it

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Oh Chara asked me about a read and I forgot

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i support the beeboy wagon but i feel like the day can be spent on things besides voting someone who isn't here to react to it. but ending the day on a beeboy elimination is fine with me.

VOTE: Raya

this post is so disingenuous lol
says we can spend the day not voing someone who is not here and then votes someone who is....not here!

Raya's not physically in the thread right now, therefore she isn't playing?

what did you mean by "not here"?

i meant that beeboy hasn't been present aside from a few posts, and i don't feel like voting him when i'm not sure if he will return, while Raya is definitely playing the game and presumably will return to the thread at some point.

I believe that if Beeboy is just scum then not only do we eliminate scum but we garner reactions from partners as well. Limming inactive slots (especially in this case) is far more productive earlier on

but i find it so hard to say no to unwnd when they speak my language about trimming inactive slots. i'm just thinking pushing beeboy at this moment is less fun when there's a whole cornucopia of players.

But what if someone vigs Beeboy and we vote someone that will react more to pressure instead.

this is why i'm proposing a non-beeboy wagon right now. i think Raya's scummy, we can talk about that.

I think raya is a decent slot for Chara to be pushing.

I think it seemed deductive that it didn't make lots of winners and losers out of the choice whether to elim beeboy. Scum are less likely to comment on an idea without taking it as an opportunity to construe it as townie or scummy imo.

I also lean town because Chara has been discussing activity in a way that positions it poorly if it has an effort dip like it did during certain phases of the innocentvillager normal where it was scum.

Most importantly Chara is NOT A REAL GIRL PRINCESS PEACHETTE.

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I need to townread Anya someday so I can pocket her

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I think fun people get eliminated less and on a much deeper level than my worry that I have gotten worse at mafia in latter 2020 and 2021 I worry even moreso that I have gotten less fun than I was in 2019 thru early pandemic

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Chara I will neighborizer you tonight and I will paraphrase the scum PT a lot in the neighborhood and we can pretend you are scum I will be a better buddy than Farkran

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Let's hold hands

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I got vaccinated specifically so I can hold hands with Chara

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I was gonna say there were activity dips on Undertale S Open that weren't scummy but then I remembered you were scum


Anyway the IV normal activity dips really had a flavor to them that made me think you were mafia

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Yay vaccines!

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">" symbol is a logical thing. P() is notation for probability which isn't usually colloquially referred to as logic (though if you delve deeply into theoretical mathematics terminology that attempts to distinguish "math" and "logic" isn't actually high utility nor a frequently motivated classification. It's thereby unsurprising that some computer programs are most easily written by having them read integer values as though they are logical values. This is discouraged as a matter of style, however)

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Ok I isoed shiro that's like ok whatever VOTE: Shiro

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Anya keeps showing up to the thread with reasons to feel shade towards people and rarely with reasons to townread people which is big multiball scum mood

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why do you feel better about Andante?

The conviction with which she says to be town actually seems to be coming from town. I would expect scum to give reasons why she's town, not just assert it like that. Also i want to give credit to unwnd and andante could alignspew later with that amount of posts, or be nked

Shiro is a better lim for today imo

Do you read me based on my convinction too? <3

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Also farkran should I buy new isaac

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Faaaarrrkkran explain to Chara that I'm a real girl!!!!!

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I won't comment on site rules while I'm a player but you can contact shea or a listmod if you want help with site rules

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VOTE: Norwee

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I don't know who the scum is

(Aside from me)

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I forgot how important consolidation is in a high playerlist game.
Can’t run an one man show.

We can fail to consolidate and then no lim and then the mafia can cross shoot eachother

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Shiro is town for now

StD is lots of fun but not actually townie

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Sorry. STD

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I wonder what the criterion to get your name capitalized is

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Toadette uses the correct singular for criterion...

I was hoping to impress you <3

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Shiro is easier to read later in the game

We both know this is true, but would you remind us as mafia?

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I've read very little since my last post

I seek farkran's permission to vote murdercat

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VOTE: murdercat

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Dwlee are you mafia

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You post like someone who is emulating their own towngame a lot like that's my take

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UNVOTE:
Still haven't read everything read some murdercat and liked it

Well
Like the implications for his alignment
I don't think he is being helpful

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My internet is broken

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Someone hold my hand I feel lonely tonight

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Unwnd you are playing with my souuilll

Why does murdercat omgus me here?
It only makes sense if it's singleball

Cause like of it's multiball

He should feel like me lol voting him makes me town
Cause I am not sitting to find the rival faction and protect myself

Right?

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Can we eliminate Flea for calling me a goombette

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I'll hold your hand if you vote murdercat again

This is someone who's determined right here

He left me as a dance partner in starry night

He knows I can't trust him it might be reverse psychology

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I'm a real girl!
https://www.mariowiki.com/Peachette

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Unwnd is a vampire bachelor who doesn't want to do the monthly budget spreadsheet

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VOTE: STD

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Pooky are you still here.

Pooky how come I came back to this thread and you did not already have a garage sale with beeboy's forsaken possessions going

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It's pretty hard to lobby with conviction when I haven't read thread. It's hard to read thread when my internet is broken.

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I'm starting to think this game has 3 scum and a bunch of third parties or tiny factions

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I'm not sure I'll ever feel comfortable about Anya's slot this game and like I think she senses that and it makes me not want to effort because she will probly shoot me. Probably not N1 but like n2 or 3.

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Epriinwwnsnkfken

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I can't think about ivyeo's alignment whenever I read any of her posts because of the way her avatar is reaching out to me.

It's like one of those paintings where something about the way the eyes are drawn makes it feel like the painting is really looking at you like really like you've seen a pair ring with eyes forward before but something's different.

I keep getting distracted but I feel like it doesn't skew me one way or the other like some avis do it just makes me go oh

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Is Shea good at balancing games an alien faction in a 24p is probably like 6 people or something

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Good at is confusing

It's a large theme he can probably fuck around a little if he wants

There's wrong answers tho
Krazy ran a 19p large theme with 3 scum, a 4 night cop, a bulletproof serial killer, and a backup to the 4 night cop and like a watcher or something else too

Uckuck

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Bojack Horseman the alien cop

I claim Freddy Fazbear the human checker

Please check me

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I think I've read everything or almost everything but like out of order

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Pooky if you were scum with Anya would you tell her not to kill me

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Poooooooooooky

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Pooky is probably town because he's not worried I will peer into his soul

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Unwnd that is a very manipulative argument you know how badly I want to be a real girl

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Ahhhhhhhh

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VOTE: murdercat

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Why are we voting murdercat

I think voting me seemed townish in broad context if it's multiball which it might not be. Could be 3ps.

The other recent stuff doesn't make me like him better.

But I don't remember how he got on my bad list in the first place by now

Apart from being lurkish

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Leading wagon, over 100 pages

If I can make you the leading wagon over the course of the next two pages, you'll self vote right?

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Townpings from Anya
VOTE: Titus

I don't want to draw out further claims today

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Murdercat vote with me

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Why are fake results information

Why does Titus even have to produce them if an alien roleblocker would be very expected really

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Anya is deepwolfing me

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given pooky is a They/Them,

Pooky doesn't set the pronoun field, for the record. So absent guidance from her, you can use whatever I guess.

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Aliens is a faction that only gets one kill all game, they might roleblock Titus indefinitely to really spend the kill where it counts.

I guess if we pretend Titus is obvtown in addition to cop then aliens would want to spend their one kill but oops too late I forgot to pretend that.

Can we just flip her

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Titus could have been summarizing her role.

Role title isn't an axis of the game I wanna win on tbh

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Flow is obvscum right

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The game is starting to drag and when that happens it starts to get toxic so if I'm alive tomorrow morning I will just self vote. Let's put ourselves on a bit of a timeline here.

FB votes seem to be going nowhere which is fine, I wasn't expecting anything to happen until my flip anyway.

UNVOTE:

Can we all just name 5 people we'd be willing to vote today?

{FB, flow, shiro, Kazyan, Dragon} is my list

Murdercat don't invite me to play in a game that has cost me an hour a day for a week and the play against your fu**ing win condition

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The way the entire lobby is approaching the tension between consolidation and deadline utilization is asinine. It's the weekend right now. No one is gonna ask anyone to reread this game in full, or they shouldn't. Lots of the posting has been highly alignment indicative. Everyone is framing things as you have to be on a popular wagon and you can't even jump ship to get a scum that was exposed by the formation of those wagons, which like dismantles the base purpose of building wagons

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I'm not playing against my win condition

How does it serve your wincondition to selfhammer as vt

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Literally tomorrow, as in 18 hours from now

Yes, if tomorrow you are at e1 and no lim is at e1 you selfhammer as vt and that moves you towards your win condition??

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in singleball small games you want more discussion

in multi-ball 20+ player larges you just want the page count to be manageable so you don't have to dig through a mountain of dirt to figure shit out when it's like day 9 and you're making a lylo decision

This is beyond flawed

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Literally tomorrow, as in 18 hours from now

Yes, if tomorrow you are at e1 and no lim is at e1 you selfhammer as vt and that moves you towards your win condition??

I'd be happy to discuss post game

Are you rescinding your VT claim for vengeful or mafia or something?

Mod note: This post was edited by me to fix quote formatting.

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Don't call me a toad pls

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Odette is a common name

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i'm 20 pages behind
why is murder not dead yet

Why are there any votes on me when the case was I don't play as scum (which isn't even accurate) and I've been here all day now that I'm caught up?

I don't know murdercat you're apparently going to vote yourself while you are caught up so shouldn't you explain it?

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If every player posted why they read every other player the way they do it would be 552 paragraphs

I think Murder's engagement level is fine

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VoteCount 1.46

Murdercat [ 10 ]

farkran, pooky, firebringer, sircakez, brave heart lion, kdowns, ivyeo, norwegianboyEE, kazyan, flow trap

NorwegianboyEE [ 4 ]

shiro, raya36

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nero cain

,

save the dragons

Titus [ 4 ]

anya, toadette, flea the magician, unwnd

firebringer [ 2 ]

andante, titus

anya [ 1 ]

dwlee99

raya36 [ 1 ]

chara

Not Voting [ 2 ]

xofelf, murdercat

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-05-17 20:33:31)

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Cakez if you're town you are beyond confbiased about my slot

And you're probably town

You need to like

Take a really good nap

Like on a futon that smells vaguely good
In the afternoon
On a sunday

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You're interpreting a lot of my posts that are pretty NAI or towny as scummy

To a point where there is a dearth of your townreads agreeing with you

Like to the extent others have misgivings about my slot it's on narrower grounds and probably construals(is that a word) with less distance

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STD did you have that same character in your avatar except in a less detailed more 2d style a long time ago or did I dream that.

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The

MURDERCAT

wagon is a rabbling mob and the Titus wagon is filled with cherubs and angels

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this might be overly spicy but like both those NKs were UTRs and both of them were people who were not playing like they had a power role so I think it is singleball anyway

Shea labelled a mafia cat mafia but Shea lives in a castle of lies

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Mmm
Well there's still two kills and the killers hopefully aren't town

maybe my theory doesn't make sense hm

it requires a scum vig

which is possible

maybe it's bastard and that cats and dogs are just all on a team together

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AND THEN SHEA CAME BACK TO MAFIASCUM IN 2020 20201 AND THINGS DEGENERATED AGAIN

CATS SHARING PTS WITH DOGS

DOGS SHARING PTS WITH CATS

CANINES COORDINATING NIGHT ACTIONS WITH FELINES

WITH EVERY VOTE WE STRAY FARTHER FROM GOD

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I am human which is a type of mafia faction

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xofelf pls don't pagebottom stereotypically scummy wolfposts i want to townread you

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i think it is extremely likely that Titus is a power role

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i don't think shea would put many mafia goons in this setup

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Farkran buy me nachos and tell me i'm funny

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xofelf pls don't pagebottom stereotypically scummy wolfposts i want to townread you

As long as you promise not to pagetop with posts that make me want to scumread you for giving me incredibly weird nonsense vibes <3

let's play some mafia xofelf

why do you think I'm more likely to post 3200 as scum than town?

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oh Nero was a vig I didn't notice that

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was Nero a fan of Titus? Maybe Nero tried to kill Titus but she got [mafia] docced

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STD stop pocketing me

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I'm actually not really gimmicking this alt at all besides the truthful and forthright assertions of my rightful species identification.

I don't know if maybe I'm playing just a smidge different cause of the tone the avi and name sets but I'm definitely not making much of a conscious effort to roleplay.

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I'm actually not really gimmicking this alt at all besides the truthful and forthright assertions of my rightful species identification.

I don't know if maybe I'm playing just a smidge different cause of the tone the avi and name sets but I'm definitely not making much of a conscious effort to roleplay.

Okay, you weren't really around long in... was it Haunted Village I'm sleepy, and I wouldn't say I'd count Flying Scumsman for much given the hydra aspect there among other things. I've just found you weird this whole game and assumed it was RPing of some kind.

Are you trying to say you want me to roleplay, but you're being shy about it

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I feel like I dunno what xofelf is but I think they're never third party

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Chara I believed you when you said you scumread me

I have trouble believing you could find a scum!flow trap more interesting than a scum!Isis

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Mmm bcause last time you thought I was slightly suspicious and you didn't follow up on it strongly I murdered you in your sleep and duped everyone and won the game

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I'm not sure flow trap's play is inconsistent with newbie PR play :X

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I think like the flips and flow of the game indicate

MURDERCAT

is more likely town?

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my head is the same color as a slowpoke's skin

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I'm in the human scum faction I promise I just really love cats

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Feel like you maybe could have gotten an Andante lim without outing if you tried hard enough (which matters if you're not one shot but don't actually tell us)

But it's definitely good an investigation connected especially when it can't get hardclears.

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Andante is being rung up because kdowns made it pretty obvious he was a dog cop by acting like one then claiming dog cop

I enjoyed this

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WHERE IS THE REAL GIRL COP

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I feel like it kind of reads like Titus is a dog who white knighted a perceived fakeguilty on a popular player she knows is notdog

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I feel like it kind of reads like Titus is a dog who white knighted a perceived fakeguilty on a popular player she knows is notdog

I think it reads like Titus didn't read the thread before trying to hard defend a partner

I got that vibe too. I didn't figure out the jigsaws before. But that works best of Titus is cats with Anya

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I mean you're playing scummier than beeboy was at this point Titus.

Sorru

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my design philosophy is pretty different from shea's and limming a miller like that is probably gonna noticeably lower my WIM

I don't really see a reason not to kill Titus.

VOTE: Titus

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Sk shot the same person as one of the mafias night one. Occam razor

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SirCakez is malfunctioning

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If you want to use logical fallacies pop off with them I guess flow trap

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THE ONLY THING I HAVE BEEN RIGHT ABOUT THIS GAME IS THAT UNWND AND NERO WERE TOWN
WTFFF

You can get a hat trick if you just say I'm a real girl

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I investigate as real girl princess peachette and that transcends the role pm shea tried to give me

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UNVOTE:

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SK would make sense here
way back in Borderlands Mafia (a similarly sized setup) it was two teams of 3 maf + 1 sk + 1 third party role

You were in borderlands mafia with me?!?!?!?!? The skullduggery one???

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i'm a serial prankster

i target someone at night and if they're not a cop my prank kills them

taking all credit for mr dwlee's demise

mx dwlee's demise

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I checked Toadette. Not an alien.

Alien hit the dog. Can we stop gaslighting me now?

thinking you're scum isn't gaslighting you, Titus. this is a game about lying. can you please stop calling it that? if you're town and we're not believing you, we can't be gaslighting you because we don't actually know you're town. it's a serious thing to accuse someone of doing and i wish you'd use a different term.

There's plenty of evidence given with the flips that at least one alien exists.

Denying that to wagon me is horseshit.

I've been gaslit before and know what the term means.

Sure town could be in denial here but aliens are gaslighting.

Titus can you seriously chill, if someone says a term that is 90% of the time used to describe domestic violence is affecting them its probably in good faith and there's a billion different terms you could use. Not being an ass to others on the forum is more important than your wincon in this game.

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I expect better from you, should I?

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Now I'm hungry

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Using a partial certainty cop on the slot that wolfed day 1 then claimed a role that could be nigh mechguiltied in massclaim is suboptimal mechanical play

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Why can't Titus just be a cat..

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Is norwee incapable of bussing?.. I mean I don't remember d1 that clearly by now for whether something about his play super clearly made it nonbus but in a vacuum is generally weigh level zero associatives less heavily than beeboy matching his scum meta precisely

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Raya can you please be town

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Pooky your reaction seems less natural than Raya's

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Why would anyone claim alien cop

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VOTE: MURDERCAT

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Murdercat why are you projecting low information stage lethargy into page 157 of the game

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Yes, the initial anything with that slot was due to beeboy, nothing else. But Titus since then has been... something. The more she gets no actual results, the more I'm perplexed by what she's doing here. I don't want to find out this is Titus scum again, I really like Titus town. I don't know if her play in general is just kinda like this, or if this is actually a scumtell for her.

Imagine checking your townreads as a cop and getting no guilty results l.el
I don't remember her posting anything but a townread on me. I dont think she could moonlogic her way through me being an alien trying to push her as early and forcefully as possible and flip her and prove there are aliens, then fritter away my faction's only NK shooting a dog instead of her.

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If you replace her claim with VT it's still the scummies slot in the game. Depending on how many layers of wifom you take on, the wacky roleclaim helps or hurts that. Which is kind of the point. Can't gamble and lose when broke

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I like, don't know that it is utterly impossible that shea posts is a role PM that checks if people are aliens cause the guy could put in anything.

It simply is not a point in her favor in any universe.

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(almost) guaranteed fact summary:
2 cats left
1 dog left
1 non explained kill that could be sk
N1 is missing a dog (or sk) kill
N2 is missing a dog kill

Claims:
Titus = alien cop
Murdecat = VT
Kdowns = dog cop (confirmed)

Checks:
Kazyan = not alien
Toadette = Peachette
Titus = not dog

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Anyways, based on the d1 VCs and vote patterns i think Toadette could very well be a cat. @pops tell me why you are not a cat?

I'm a human. It's hard to case why I don't have partners I don't have and starting a dialogue with "why are you did aligned with multiball faction x" seems like a poor way to start a dialogue because if I was mafia idve been thinking on how to crosskill this other group/likely group all game and would have been managing my associatives all game so it's actually more difficult to answer than a straightforward "are you town" compared to the help I would have by being scum.

I can't remember precisely what my standing compared to norwee wagon was but I remember finding some stuff scummy but someone I put some amount of stock in going "norwee is always town here" and that turning the bike pedals backwards some

I think mildly correctly reading dwlee but not being particularly interested in it is one thing thats probably tough for my scumrange that I've done this game. If I was mafia looking for stuff to do I think that slot would be pretty easy to push. Especially if i knew dwlee's alignment, but if I didn't too, either way.

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Shea's not that kind of bastard

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Was probably fark

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Given how much I love cats I would be pretty sad doing a human schtick if I rolled cat and I did pick out the schtick after the game began.

I would also be posting my cats in the PT so very much


I would still have time to post tho
Doesn't really tell you anything

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I don't know if I scumread Murdercat but I'm so mad

Let me vanity wagon ok

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1 non explained kill that could be sk
N1 is missing a dog (or sk) kill
N2 is missing a dog kill

I don't understand why we are confident there is a 3rd kill somewhere and not a redirect

Redirects are less likely probabilistically, you have to multiply the 1/gamesize chance with the accuracy in hitting scum, 3/gamesize. Or 2, however many scums were alive. For overlapping kills, you only must apply the 1/gamesize coincidence

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Murder is a flareon

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Redirects are less likely probabilistically, you have to multiply the 1/gamesize chance with the accuracy in hitting scum, 3/gamesize. Or 2, however many scums were alive. For overlapping kills, you only must apply the 1/gamesize coincidence

Well the dog kill was face up, so that makes it slightly more likely. Also whatever, I'll just say the thing that I was thinking earlier, I think Pooky is responsible for the kill on dwlee either through redirection or 3p.

How do you reconcile thinking 3p is more likely and thinking Titus claim is not true?

I think a 3p with a gun is more likely, and Titus is explicitly claiming the presence of a faction that does not have unlimited gunshots. Making a faction, calling it "aliens" which traditionally have 0 shot or one shot, giving it two shots, then telling Titus she is looking for aliens without telling her she is looking for modified aliens is a type of bastard that is outside the scope of what tsq seemed to be indicating was possible in his forewarnings and disclaimers.

So it actually pushes against Titus's claim since there's a limit to how many third parties can be in the setup.

The most likely scenario where Titus is town is not a redirector, but an alien faction with one kill per game that holstered night one for reasons we don't know. I can't rule that out but I don't think that possibility is good enough for Titus to live on

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I think Pooky's reaction to the flips was weird

Pedit: Chara to be honest idk how you know I'm town this game or how anyone could. I think some of the reasons for suspecting me are bad though

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I guess we could kill pooky maybe pooky will flip alien

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Guttake it is +scum that you acknowledged you should be more afraid of town me because it suggests all the data was there and what was missing was the motivation

Hard not to want you to be town when you're towncasing me now tho etc