Dogs Vs. Cats Mafia | Endgame

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>.< Ugh why does every person up for lychee this game suddenly sound more towny

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That's a bit Jaring .-.

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Is mechguilty confscum?

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I guess that's an extreme enough example

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:3

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Which is one the jellyfish?

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Who am I on again?

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Farkan ok

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UNVOTE: Farkan

Give me a second

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Mmmmmmmmm...

I don't know if what I found is what you're thinking of but it has plausibility but not certainty

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VOTE: Titus

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I think that theory has plausibility

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VOTE: Farkran

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everybody scumreads this slot let's yeet it

I'm pretty sure that's not true anymore

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It would be really funny if Cake was scum trying to miselim me but probably not

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If i get to 6 votes i will claim and you all will feel as dumb as ever

I feel like your the 3rd person to say this

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HOW DOES HE KNOW THAT

I ASKED HIM 4 TIMES AND HE'S AVOIDED IT

it is weird that he avoided the question i wouldn't mind an explanation

it seems really obvious to me why Fark hasn't answered this question.

^ this player has read my iso

Can you just say why

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Nah, there's at least one other thing

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VOTE: Titus

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I think they're at 5

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Must resist power of Fibonacci

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I feel like your the 3rd person to say this

Who were the first two?

BHL and I, I believe

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i don't believe farkran is a snake

i believe he flavor crumbed a snake to signal to his cat friends

then he randomly googled for a cartoon snake and ended up with rikki tikki - a character that isn't even a snake.

this is just a laugh out loud botch'd claim.

im ok not execing him because he should get nightkilled by the dogs if hes real and itll be super obv in a few days if he mysteriously lives lol but i want cred for calling it when he inevitably flips not a doctor.

This... Is starting to sound wrong

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Not I

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Farkan write "Cat Mafia Traitor Doctor" on a bottle and then bottle flip it

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Cake why are you still on me :S

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I think there are a lot of explanations

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Which are more likely than alien at the moment?

All of them totalled definitely

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missing kill n1 is consistent with aliens, curious what Titus voters make of that

I think there are a lot of explanations

So you think aliens killed N2, and killed not Titusheart YET titusheart is getting results?

No...?

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town has multiple roles that only harm dog mafia.

Again, we don't know if it's the same for cats

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Wait were they serious?

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Anya?

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How do you spell your username, Anya?

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That's fine

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i still don't know what WIM means, from context clues i have gathered it's something like the will to tryhard.

Well "W" is probably Who/What/Where/When/Why and I is probably I so...

What I Mean?

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No, given the context I is In not I or It

W was wrong too I think

Work In Me?

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Will In Me

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That was Farkan?

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Would you say it's less?

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Idk what you mean

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Yeah, Spaghetti is like a Tuesday food

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Tuesday, Thursday, same thing. Both start with a T

Spaghetti and Scum both start with an S

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Think smaller. On land. With claws

Bear?

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Agreed

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Gj

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Otter

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See?

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Also I didn't get cat until I realised you weren't referring to yourself

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I hope there's a red herring (the animal) in this setup cause that would be a funny joke

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Humans are capable of meowing

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Sometimes they meow at each other, I think

I meow at moths

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I do not like moths in my residence

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Moths look like wasps sometimes

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I do not like wasps

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Did you know those giant mosquito things are called crane flies

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I was a expecting waking up to 2 pages not 2 posts

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Hm... Tempting

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ACTUALLY KEEP UP WITH THE GAME.

All caps of scumminess

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In the collective, I doubt they are all town.

Over a third of the game is on them there is almost definitely

at least

3 scum, so I'd say it's basic probability that there is one scum on them

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Ok so we have a bunch of people who don't want to vote titus and a bunch who don't want to vote pooky

Why?

Because society is

probably

not a hivemind

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If I were to give you the choice between pizza and icecream, would I be fair in deciding that you don't like the one you didn't choose?

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If I were to give you the choice between pizza and icecream, would I be fair in deciding that you don't like the one you didn't choose?

Could you simply give a straight answer to my question? Do you think pooky is town, or is he scummy but titus is scummier?

Nope

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I don't really have a reason for titus over pooky just a feeling

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It's blatantly obvious that I was wagoned again to save Pooky.

Every time you say something like this I get a worse feeling about it

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It's blatantly obvious that I was wagoned again to save Pooky.

Every time you say something like this I get a worse feeling about it

Worse feeling about what?

The argument I don't like it, it feels off but I can't pinpoint why

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Note to self: Punctuation exists

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Yeah, they need to be an actually candidate now

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Note to self: Sell expensive hats just in case of the available market

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If someone says what I think is going to happen I'm sad

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I don't

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Don't need to tell me twice

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Gg town loses. I was town. Town has a near zero percent win rate when I get eliminated.

Why?

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What does that mean?

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VOTE: pookythemagicalbear

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Town has also tried to kill you

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Scum has the power of bus

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Is that serious

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-_-

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UNVOTE: pookythemagicalbear

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VOTE: Toadette

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Dog team has to be bigger than cat team at this rate.

Also Titus was town, what a shock.

MMQB

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Monday Morning Quarterback

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Iirc you appeared to not want it bcs it didn't give any information

Or at least that's the only argument against it I remember from you

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Why SK?

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A lot of animals eat nuts

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Iirc you appeared to not want it bcs it didn't give any information

I said Titus's claim was almost certainly real and fairly likely town, and then Cakez was like "but muh information", and I was like "what information"?

Well Cakez, you got your information. What are you gonna do with it?

But why though

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Alien miller lol

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But why though

alien cop is a weird role to give to scum
and she might not have even true claimed as scum

Does the second statement not somewhat invalidate the first

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only the alien SK could've known Titus was for reals

I didn't have any prior knowledge of aliens. I'm just good at judging claims.

I can buy this

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.-. I shouldn't have to prompt you to explain a read against the general consensus

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Fun

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Is Kdowns just town then or do we have 2 dog cop cat whatevers

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Or Dog traitor

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Or Dog traitor

If I was Dog Traitor, I don't think I would have known about Anda. Since Anda was Miller

I meant Dog Traitor Cop :I

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Guess it's less likely with the reaction

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Why aren't there associations in mafia?

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wot

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k

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What do you mean?

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Nvm

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VOTE: Raya

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VOTE: Raya

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oops double voter slip

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L -3

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y not

Oh ok have a nice day

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No, because I have like 3 reads which are probably inaccurate because I have no idea how to read multiplucationball

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in multiball you mean? it doesn't mean much to say "well this scum pushed me therefore I can't be scum" because you could just be scum on the other team

In pookys case

Being pushed by both dogs and cats, and him pushing both are being completely ignored.

Good catch. I took a look and my thoughts are below. I think I want to put pooky up a group into the blue

Spoiler: pooky interactions

Norway: nothing partner clearing from norway, pooky lightly called norway out twice which felt more like shading than distancing (don't get what he's doing, norway can do something useful like..)
Chara: speaking about not noticing pooky's post felt unaligned, voted Pooky, pushed and challenged pooky in a way that didn't feel like partners
Firebringer: nothing partner clearing (although their interactions didn't feel partner-y)
Dwlee: scumread pooky in a natural way that appeared to be cat hunting, stayed consistent, pooky called dwlee scummy too

Hasn't pooky been saying that

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in multiball you mean? it doesn't mean much to say "well this scum pushed me therefore I can't be scum" because you could just be scum on the other team

In pookys case

Being pushed by both dogs and cats, and him pushing both are being completely ignored.

Good catch. I took a look and my thoughts are below. I think I want to put pooky up a group into the blue

Spoiler: pooky interactions

Norway: nothing partner clearing from norway, pooky lightly called norway out twice which felt more like shading than distancing (don't get what he's doing, norway can do something useful like..)
Chara: speaking about not noticing pooky's post felt unaligned, voted Pooky, pushed and challenged pooky in a way that didn't feel like partners
Firebringer: nothing partner clearing (although their interactions didn't feel partner-y)
Dwlee: scumread pooky in a natural way that appeared to be cat hunting, stayed consistent, pooky called dwlee scummy too

Hasn't pooky been saying that

Maybe, I can't remember. I take stuff like that less seriously when it's self-defense though

Why, that seems not useful

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Yeah, I ISOd Flow and I didn't understand 30% of what they were saying

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Stop the fluff you worthless maggots. none of you are dogs or lizards or anything else you think you are. You are nothing but cannon fodder that's ready to sacrifice themselves at a moments notice for my army.

I

Italics

Like what is this?

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in multiball you mean? it doesn't mean much to say "well this scum pushed me therefore I can't be scum" because you could just be scum on the other team

In pookys case

Being pushed by both dogs and cats, and him pushing both are being completely ignored.

Good catch. I took a look and my thoughts are below. I think I want to put pooky up a group into the blue

Spoiler: pooky interactions

Norway: nothing partner clearing from norway, pooky lightly called norway out twice which felt more like shading than distancing (don't get what he's doing, norway can do something useful like..)
Chara: speaking about not noticing pooky's post felt unaligned, voted Pooky, pushed and challenged pooky in a way that didn't feel like partners
Firebringer: nothing partner clearing (although their interactions didn't feel partner-y)
Dwlee: scumread pooky in a natural way that appeared to be cat hunting, stayed consistent, pooky called dwlee scummy too

Hasn't pooky been saying that

Maybe, I can't remember. I take stuff like that less seriously when it's self-defense though

Why, that seems not useful

Well I don't really mean to, it's more subconscious.

Yeah, I ISOd Flow and I didn't understand 30% of what they were saying

You say that as a joke but there's a reason you're still in my null pile

Yeah... A joke

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Pooky is also defenitly scum imo

Please elaborate

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I think Fen has a high probability of flipping anti-town, and I think so with Pooky as well. I know that Pooky can't be Dog, but with how yesterday with Titus and now with Psyche who hasn't had a chance to get into the game. Just kinda stinks of opportunism.

Who is Fen?

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Why am I on Raya, again?

I've never made it past day 2 in a game larger than 20 this is confusing

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I can settle on Anya or Flow. I haven't seen much of Flow late game to know if they're good to keep around, Anya is giving me eh vibes, and I'm torn on STD currently.

I have a weak mid game but a strong end game

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Can someone explain the SS scumread? (Besides the wagon analysis Psyche did)

I'm most interested in Anya, then Psyche next. I could compromise to Flow but I'm not super interested in that elim.

Thinking about it now how many of these wagons been compromised

Kind of want to do something bold when I get back to my computer, but I'm not sure what

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VOTE: xofelf

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Aha!

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Vote:S_S

We need something to happen to reinvigorate the game.

Which is why you're following the main wagon?

Conflict creates action; Variance creates change

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Who counts as a scummy player vs a "let's compromise on them" player

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What if they lie?

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I have a bad feeling but I'm probably being paraniod

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Is KD confirmed or just highly likely?

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oh bc chara was the one who checked her and kdowns stole their result??

That could be a possibility, right?

Edit: Hm... Maybe to have the Doggos kill vanilla KD instead of Cop Chara but then we would know there's likely a cat dog cop if their plan succeed so maybe not

Is there

any

possibility of a Dog Miller Dog Cop

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Did anyone check Chara's iso for softs when I brought it up

I have time now, did you?

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Guess that answers my question

It kind of looks strange now

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SS I thought you were like a PT vig

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Did Chara die night 2 or night 3?

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It's day 4

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Chara died N3 so they had 2

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Chara might have checked me night 2

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Spoiler: End Of Day 2

i don't agree with youuuu Fire

VOTE: flow trap

i'm down to help with this though.

Chara I believed you when you said you scumread me

I have trouble believing you could find a scum!flow trap more interesting than a scum!Isis

who was campaigning for you as scum?

this seems really arbitrary though. you don't think i'd be happier wagoning flow trap than you, why?

i was expecting to find some of the points in murdercat's flow case to be confbias-y (and some are) but the pattern of when flow votes Norwee is pretty convincing. and 2424 from Norwee is interesting.

also i do think it is possible scum Fark goes all in to prevent losing his buddy day 1 and having a terrible time the rest of the game (there is a meta element to the mindset there).

not saying i think flow is town btw. just....like feels one case of people being skeptical and sus of someone for posting they don't like because its coming from personality they conflict with (goes to auto scumread territory) feel somewhat similar with kaz in some instances but think people have more meat there.

i don't think it's personality though? the problem with flow isn't that its vote changed a lot, it's specifically the Norwee votes.

but i do agree about Kaz.

i am listening to lord kdowns and also MY gut, but i did listen to you about flow and you might be right.

Spoiler: Start of Day 3

i think flow trap could be town.

I think I may have taken flow's friendly neighbor claim too seriously yesterday, which is why I said the slot will sort itself. MC's case is convincing and mixed with the fact I already didn't like Flow's posting I'm fine sheeping here.

VOTE: Flow Trap

also i feel the friendly neighbour thing and Dwlee's other interactions with flow make dog scum specifically less likely.

Dwlee's interaction with Fire is pretty usual, no partner tells, just some regular interactions in an ISO that's not very big, which could be an indicator of how Dwlee was interacting with other partners. i'm going to give a looksee at other interactions in any case.

Confused

i disagree with your opinion on Cakes but your reaction to that disagreement was pretty towny, just a feeling from that.

a little stronger now with also thinking you're probably not dogscum.

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Yay, I contributed

Now I can go back to posting 10 pages of fluff

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VOTE: Anya

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I don't want Anya, I want Anya vs Raya

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Flow traps progression about Chara's iso is actually very towny independent of whether that's a real crumb

Well, I'd say more anti-dog if you're going that route

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Pooky vs Anya vs Raya is probably better

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Cakes, can you quote your case on me?

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At this rate 2 people pushing someone will get them lycheed .-.

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Pooky vs Anya vs Raya is probably better

All the y names in this game are antitown, I swear it, or my middle name ain't Sha

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VOTE: Raya36

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This is a very lopsided battle

2:1 ratio

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i don't have one why would you imply I did?

Because you've been on me this whole game

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I figured I missed it

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VOTE: Toadette

I think it's much more comfortable to go back onto this since we basically have 3 confirmed players right now.

You, Psyche and who?

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not sure why you'd do that toadette/flow

feel like you both knew i was town

I'm not on you

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VOTE: No Death By Fruit

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We're on even, though?

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I don't, I just saw it once and was like "Yeah, it's applicable to all situations"

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VOTE: raya36

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not sure why you'd do that toadette/flow

feel like you both knew i was town

I'm not on you

you started the wagon .-.

You've played with me before, you should know I don't always vote who I suspect >-<

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I just didn't want a run-up in general

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:I

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;-;

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How long are we going to compromise on null reads?

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VOTE: Something_Smart

I am compelled by the power of compromise

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I don't think we can be certain enough of anything set-up related to count it as a township

Strongly agree

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This feels like a scumpost

Care to elaborate?

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weak read? She is one of my top townreads after Titus cleared her of being alien.

I'm talking about your read on me.

Youre perfectly content to leave me alone until I push isisheart.

Both times you made an attack against me was when I made a direct push against her, and campaigned to eliminate her. Once that threat has passed, you moved on and didnt even casually look in my direction.

You literally move on, you didnt even propose a wagon on me yesterday

Where is this?

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Kinda wild that I would have been better off not using my power and letting myself get executed.

If I had gotten a guilty on Psyche I was definitely debating lying and saying it was an innocent so they got shot.

If you were going to say innocent no matter what then it's kind of pointless since you can just bluff and use it on some other statement

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Anything is possible

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VOTE: brave heart lion

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Well presumably, it's because you just did something suspicious to them that caught their eye

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I think I know

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I don't remember what Flea has done

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VOTE: xofelf

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You complaining about me defending myself is ridiculous. Scum do not want to defend themselves, they'd rather just ignore the accusations and hope they randomly go away and it goes nowhere.

This does seem to be the trend

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This feels like 2 slightly different debates

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VOTE: Raya

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I think I TL Toadete

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Ya, I do

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VOTE: xofelf

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V/LA from June 10 to June 13

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pretty sure the xof push is awful

Too bad so sad

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Dargon, do you still TR Raya?

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Name 3 colors

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I was actually hoping to get specific feedback to have like a conversation

Kind of hard to do off of gut reads imo

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VOTE: raya36

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I was actually hoping to get specific feedback to have like a conversation

Kind of hard to do off of gut reads imo

please tell me you have more than gut reads available on day 5?

I was not talking about me

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If I'm correct, it is a 4v4?

why do you want me to name colors

Can't say yet

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Hm... does that just leave Alien?

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Top of my list are Xof and Raya

Town list or scum list? :I

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Am I 3rd then?

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I dunno with you honestly

Usually it goes Scummy->Towny->No Clue but we can skip the middle step ;P

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Given we might be out of cat mafia, me claiming at this point might not actually be bad idea. It just seemed like a particularly bad one yesterday. So if that's what people need from me, I am willing to do that. Because I'm not scum, but I don't think I've done a particularly good job at my role.

I don't oppose this if you want to

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VOTE: raya36

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What is your full selection?

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Kazyan>kdowns>Shiro>kdowns>something_smart

Like I said, not been doing a great job >.>

Do you remember the reasoning for each

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S_S was "Okay who still in this game do I think is good and solid and *needs* to be here tomorrow for us to win this."

Why did SS need to be here?

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Xofelf's claim sounds believable

Is it a puddle or a piece though

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Is that rhetorical?

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Yeah, I guess so.

How about, why don't you believe the claim?

Well mine was too

Which is why it took a neutral tone

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Can you explain why lemons are blue?

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I have no clue

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There was a dog miller, though