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I wouls like to hear more abour thisIn post 609, Andante wrote:I think kdowns is scum- Brave Heart Lion
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In post 1422, unwnd wrote:I'm about here
[Core]
Cakez
Nero
Anya
[Flex]
Andante
Firebringer (maybe)
Ivyeo
Flea (gut)
[Rising]
Farkran (+Earnestness)
Norwee (+Meta read from Farkran)
--NULL VOID--
Chara (Dropped due to you two Rising)
Pooky
Dwlee
Shiro
Raya
Toadette
Kdowns
--NULL VOID--
[Suspect]
STD
Xofelf
Flow Trap
[Kill]
Beeboy
Kazyan
I AM NOT LISTED
I AM HURT
HURT WINDHEART- Brave Heart Lion
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You are bothIn post 1050, Farkran wrote:
Wait who's farheart if i am farkheart?In post 1031, Brave Heart Lion wrote:I'm halfway through the game
Undecieded on Kazyanheart
Decidedly town on Dweeheart
Also decidedly town on Farheart
This game is moving so fast I am forgetting the impressions I had just a few pages prior in my catch up
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Cant say much other than vibes at the momentIn post 1061, Raya36 wrote:Once again, gonna ask why because I townread toadette
But then I have the inclination to sr people like Isis, tierce so grain of salt
If I had to use words I think the best is shes iioa-y?- Brave Heart Lion
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I am not hecticIn post 1101, NorwegianboyEE wrote:How could i misread Isis as Hectic when he was hidden in plain sight.- Brave Heart Lion
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I meant dogs over catsIn post 1099, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
what are you talking aboutIn post 1025, Brave Heart Lion wrote:Pooksheart, i am hurt v hurt. How can you like cats over dogs.
Norweeheart!scum
But i cannot betray a cat lover, ill help him buss!
Toadheart also feels like scum
Fleaheart is probtown!
Currently on running tests on how to read faer
I am loyal to the Doggo Cause
I'm literally allergic to cats
Your fellow carebear is a LION- Brave Heart Lion
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If I'm ever revealed, you'll eat your words.In post 1186, Flea The Magician wrote:If it helps, I dunno who you are and it's clear you don't know me that well
Im hesitant to town read you because of a recent game but as much as I'm hesitant I keep getting closer and oser to fleaheart!town- Brave Heart Lion
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I got scumpings in that post.In post 1249, Farkran wrote:
Also this is 100% town!norweeIn post 1242, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It is Unwd. And you're one of the more arrogant players i've met to think you've "caught me" because i made some light jokes in a game.
Last time someone said that, Norweeheart was an SK- Brave Heart Lion
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Im curious in this developmentIn post 1314, Chara wrote:
this is why i'm proposing a non-beeboy wagon right now. i think Raya's scummy, we can talk about that.In post 1304, NorwegianboyEE wrote:But what if someone vigs Beeboy and we vote someone that will react more to pressure instead.- Brave Heart Lion
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Couple questionsIn post 1389, Anya wrote:VOTE: Raya
she switched all the lights on at home and left for holiday hoping we wouldn't notice the house is actually empty
also Chara is right that her defence of Toadette feels like she has weights in her shoes
Why are you piggybacking on someone elses thoughts?
Why are you operating under singleball?
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Why are you operating under a singleball?- Brave Heart Lion
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I apologize for these string of posts
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE LAST ONE
29-41...
I'm totally going to do 20 pages after catching up the last 30 or so
I feel like bakeheart does this often as both alignments. I like his energy and how hes trying to engage here dont you?In post 709, unwnd wrote:
Pot cannot call kettle black here, your problem with me from the start is that I was making a vague statement about Fark, but yet your own read on me is vague lolIn post 638, SirCakez wrote:i don't like some of unwnd's logic, it doesn't feel like his town thought process
I don't get the sense that he's trying to fly under the radar but instead, is trying to make moves despite being in constant cstch up mode, dont you?
Page 30, i think andanteheart is town. He has some good probing questions on 29 and 30 and its making me feel better about my stance on Kazyheart
Who i currently feel is not the most caught up, and doesnt have the best posts yet has called me out for my lack of posts.
Hes not wrong to have me as a null read, but I feel like he is lowkey trying to pin active lurking on my slot because I'm just so immemorable.
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Just because they defend you?In post 717, Andante wrote:
this is a very towny postIn post 715, unwnd wrote:I don't want to play hero or seem like I need to defend people but Andante being called scum is baffling. I think people are really annoyed about her spam and think maybe she just has nothing to say, yet I see a lot of method into it. You could even compare and contrast this thought as to why I didn't like Kaz. Andante sees something she doesn't like and much like a dog starts barking at trouble. Kaz however sits back and uses opposable thumbs to make Pro/Anti lists that generate no purpose beyond discussing a potential what-if topic. What if scum are anti-posters? What if town are pro-posters? Who knows. Even he himself initially said 'will this help anyone? probably not'
Humans are the enemy
I think this is foxhearts best post all game. I feel like hes more interested jn making friends more than anything else.In post 771, xofelf wrote:
Babe, that's how I know what it looks likeIn post 760, Save The Dragons wrote:
This feels like a loaded questionIn post 759, xofelf wrote:you come across a lot more different when you're being schemey and lying.
gotta work on that for my survivor game
Also kdowns, tr means Townread. 95% sure anyways.
If you kept reading, I explained immediately right after. It's a bad read for right now this second. There is not enough in this particular game to actually for sure say that.PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
whyIn post 759, xofelf wrote:Beeboy as scum is a bad read.
Didn't you know, mafia is at all times v srs >:( No fun for anybody. Not like it's rule number one or anything and the sole reason I joined this game, noooo, certainly not.Andante wrote:
SAAAMMMEEEE That's why I was like, uhhh what?? yall are voting xofelf??? I was loving them... having a great time... yet apparantly we gotta be super serious... as if I have super serious reads on everyone right now...In post 759, xofelf wrote:but this is also just fluff interactions were fun and I always like fun.
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The mom and the Lion do not associate ._.In post 1937, unwnd wrote:That slip helps me think your slot is possibly town though so could be a good thing after all
In more relevant news, if anyone is around, I'll postpone digging through 30 more pages of shit.
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I think of all of those, i should take a closer look at flow and Shiro. Neither one of them have posts that I have been able to digest and considering the former has one of the higher post counts, thats a bit troublesome.
I remember having a scum-lean on pooky but the way he approaches the game makes sense from town him. I remember with having issues with some of his stances but I did like how he was driving the game, and taking lead. From a glance, it feels like pooky is playing more seriously than ive witnessed him play as town but his push against Bee is one I'm particularly interested in because of how gungho about it.
It was that same energy that made me feel turned off on his push in the game modded by grey ice and I'm not too inclined to repeat the experience.
Andante feels like a playstyle read and ive liked much of his gumption, outside the whole cats vs dogs and within it. I feel like hes not to concerned about how others virw gim which is slightly +town for him
Along with flow, there was another high post counter that slipped my attention.
Rays feels town for reasons I can't explain at the moment
And anya just feels contradictory for better or worse- Brave Heart Lion
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Why are you operating on the assumption of this game being singleball?
I'm not worried about you. I have a read you and as scum here, you're someone I could probably easily manipulate sorry to say. You're reads were way off in mizzys normal so yah.In post 1522, Nero Cain wrote:I'm someone skeptical of these two for maybe a silly reason. Like I know I'm being full of myself and all here but I think I'm a decent contender for a nightkill and these two not really mentioning me feels like scum that are planning on nking me.
Considering the speed of this game and the fact that alot of the players are stuck in catch up mode, why?In post 1549, SirCakez wrote:
That was Unwnd and I agree with you Nero I don't think it's just being overwhelmedIn post 1547, Nero Cain wrote:Don't really agree with what someone said about her being overwhelmed as town.
I feel pretty overwhelmed myself and I have dozens of games
Neroheart
This is a question for you as well
What do you think about it, why even bring it up?In post 1550, Kazyan wrote:I've seen two of Andante's town games, and one thing that I haven't seen her do in them is to repeatedly assert that she's town--which she's doing in this one. I won't jump to conclusions and call that a scum tell, though.
Remind me what his read wasIn post 1552, Dwlee99 wrote:Kaz, are you a jester? No offense, but 1550 + your read on Andante are ridiculous together.
It could mean alot of things. What do you think about her asserting shes done it before?In post 1553, Nero Cain wrote:I dunno how I feel about toadette anymore. Her fight club approach to d1 has me bewildered.The first rule of lynching Beeboy is to not talk about lynching Beeboy.What our we going to do with the next 5 days?
It contributes to my scumlean of that slot
What am I missing?In post 1580, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm fairly sure you're town
Sweet, sweet summer child. This is perfect WK conditions.In post 1586, Andante wrote:Sooo I like how Toadette and Dragons have jumped in like "hold up, these past games support her being town here" which like, they really don't have to do as scum, considering half the table just wants me gone.
And whoever was like "so easy for scum to pick TRs and not SRs" ok excuse me. not my fault I tr the people talking the most... Trust me I'm trying to find scum. but it's like, everyone here is in 2 groups. posts a lot, or barely posts...
I dont think they should be tr'd off that
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what gives you the idea i'm assuming singeball?In post 1503, Brave Heart Lion wrote:
Couple questionsIn post 1389, Anya wrote:VOTE: Raya
she switched all the lights on at home and left for holiday hoping we wouldn't notice the house is actually empty
also Chara is right that her defence of Toadette feels like she has weights in her shoes
Why are you piggybacking on someone elses thoughts?
Why are you operating under singleball?
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Why are you operating under a singleball?
I'm referring to this. This is a fantastic case imo if its singleball but it looses its meaning if we're dealing with multiple scum teams. In order to win, one scum team would need to eliminate the other so even as scum Raya would need to, as well as be able to generate authentic reads, No?In post 1326, Chara wrote:
Raya's toadette read stood out because she gave the reasoning as toadette having a contentful entrance in comparison to others. fine for earlygame, but Raya continued to question scumreads on the slot while catching and the read feels like it has more strength than is warranted.In post 1321, Save The Dragons wrote:
okay, why?In post 1314, Chara wrote:i think Raya's scummy, we can talk about that.
that and the Kaz read, which i did talk to Raya about and i can see the angle there, but it does also seem to me like an easy read to make, you see busywork and call it scummy and then you can use that to direct the rest of your posting. i remember Raya quoting a post someone else made about how the pro posting/anti posting list was weird, but then Kaz did put out a readlist afterwards, and Raya interacted with the part about the busywork list being pointless and possibly lamisty but it didn't feel like she was really digging into why it was made.
i'd like to discuss both these points when she returns to the thread though. the problem may also be that Raya's stuck playing catchup whenever she has time to post.
Also curious on what happened between that and this
(In response to Anya SR Raya)In post 1642, Chara wrote:
i think her reads have been fine and made sense, but they don't feel fluid or like they're being figured out in real time, the reads at the latter half of the catchup are the same as the ones at the beginning. more of an absence of things that feel like town really solving than anything scummy.In post 1511, Anya wrote:she keeps asking people to explain their reads like explain more reasons for why shiro is a wolf or more reasons for why kayzan is town
she doesn't know what to do at the bottom of the treehouse while we lounge up her so she's just awkwardly asking questions but all the while she has an axe behind her back which comes out to smack the tree when we're distracted by the questions
don't agree that she's just been asking questions and not giving any stances herself.
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Youve must've missed me my lack of selfpreservation in the games ive played upon returninfIn post 2642, Toadette wrote:
If I can make you the leading wagon over the course of the next two pages, you'll self vote right?In post 2640, Brave Heart Lion wrote:Leading wagon, over 100 pages- Brave Heart Lion
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Why?In post 2026, Nero Cain wrote:
I'd expect Mom to be OMGUS scumreading me if she were town so I'm not sure if she's town.In post 2022, SirCakez wrote:yeah brave heart is town
You scum reading me is par of the course
You also did it in Mizzys game before I during my defense od you iirx- Brave Heart Lion
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The sudden defense of Murderheart is weird, and the fact that you retort with this doubly so.In post 2642, Toadette wrote:
If I can make you the leading wagon over the course of the next two pages, you'll self vote right?In post 2640, Brave Heart Lion wrote:Leading wagon, over 100 pages
I wasn't shy with wanting the day to end, and my vote being a sheep vote.
I dont know what to make of this defense while still voting the person your voting for.- Brave Heart Lion
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I think flow has a decent chance at being scum, and Shiro could be.In post 2034, Dwlee99 wrote:So do you agree with any of my scumreads?
Anya is null, pookie is lean-scum but not a read I would confidently push
The rest i disagree with
And the claim is alien Cop while andante is saying he believes alien exists as an alignment for a reason?In post 2481, Dwlee99 wrote:Here are three softs. Granted, all pretty soon before she claimed. But they do at least exist.
Ive understood that much but not much more from the last... 30 some pages- Brave Heart Lion
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In post 2664, Momrangal wrote:If I'm understanding right
Murderheart is at L-1
I isoed andante and ifc thats town as shit, and in no way how a person saves their buddy. Not this early in the game. I dont think informed townie is a stretch of a role, im inclined to give titus at least one night to give us a result
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In post 3343, Brave Heart Lion wrote:Andante
Nero
Unwnd
Cakes
Dweelee
Colder (Xolfer)
Farkan
Iveyo
Flea
Raya
MC
(Chara)
Save the Dragons
kdowns
shiro
flow trap
anya
firebringer
pookythemagicalbear
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Kazyan
Toadette
Titus
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I had a decent TR on youIn post 3829, Farkran wrote:If alien = sk titus is still believable to me
We have two dog deaths with one flipped town vig and it's very likely that dogs targeted kdowns (because confirmed cop) but was protected.
Also during n1, remember that nero was EVEN NIGHT vig and he was killed by cats OR sk, not dogs
But, I'm going to be the second person to ask you this
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Anyone who dares attack bakeheart will get my full lion furyIn post 3747, flow trap wrote:
As far as I'm aware being hesitant to move your vote cause you might seems scummy is something scum doesIn post 3735, SirCakez wrote:see now I want to unvote so we don't get another too fast hammer BUT THEN WITH MY LUCK TITUS WILL FLIP SCUM AND PEOPLE WILL THINK IM HER BUDDY
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[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12772440]post 3867[/url], Brave Heart Lion"][quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12772348]post 3829[/url], Farkran"]If alien = sk titus is still believable to me
We have two dog deaths with one flipped town vig and it's very likely that dogs targeted kdowns (because confirmed cop) but was protected.
Also during n1, remember that nero was EVEN NIGHT vig and he was killed by cats OR sk, not dogs[/quote]
I had a decent TR on you
But, I'm going to be the second person to ask you this
How do you know?[/quote]
[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12772917]post 3994[/url], Farkran"]Also i've been thinking that dwlee was probably killed by cats believing he could be town, which could mean that some of his reads were threatening ([post=#12762036]2921[/post])
Although anya doesn't really fit as a cat based on vca
Maybe pooky is actually a cat pushing beeboy to save norwee? Hmmm[/quote]
What's your theory on the N1 nks- Brave Heart Lion
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I MEANT TO SAY N1In post 4086, Brave Heart Lion wrote:FARKHEART
WHY ARE YOU AVOIDING THE QUESTION REGARDING DOGS NOT HAVING A KILL LAST NIGHT?
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I don't, no one but the dogs do but farkan brought it up and refuses to comment on it nowIn post 4090, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:how do you know the dogs didnt kill on night 1?- Brave Heart Lion
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In post 3829, Farkran wrote:If alien = sk titus is still believable to me
We have two dog deaths with one flipped town vig and it's very likely that dogs targeted kdowns (because confirmed cop) but was protected.
Also during n1, remember that nero was EVEN NIGHT vig and he was killed by cats OR sk, not dogs@pooky
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I think that, just like town, that scum in a multi-ball game also need to scumhunt and, may even have greater incentive to pin down the opposing team than town does. Its a.balance and in the earlier days, it means they can be just as active in scumhunting amd questioning amd the like.
Couple days pass, things appear to be going well for one kf the factions and then, suddenly X is the last person in their faction and they have tons of eliminations to sift through.
If I was X, I would become more self-preservative
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how does one explain the fact that he somehow knows dogs didn't make a kill the first night or their kill didnt go through and him ignoring it entirely - Brave Heart Lion
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