Anything uPick (Endgame)

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who wants to cheat with me

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but datisi likes rolling scum :think:

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VOTE: Ydrasse

my cheated notes said this is mafia

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pooky is the best half what are u on about he's literally nommed for a scummy

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also my flavor is a player who was banned for cheating on another site that was caught in a game RC and I were in and the role that was written up made me laugh so hard LMFAO

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https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... erfalls-II
(if you want a good laugh notice how badly this guy TMI that they nearly get limmed themselves)

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pooky claiming theyll bus?

confirmed town

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im in charge round these parts

DOUBT

No spamming please.

PARTY POOPER VOTE: Ircher

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monka

i was mildly critical of some1 in a deadchat and they reacted by telling me to kms and we both got a ban

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I'm a 20 shot day vig

convince me you deserve to live

i have all the answers to the test

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mildly critical

its true i just said that if they scumread some1 whos always obvious as town they were playing poorly

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ydrasse i think its funny u saw i was banned first and didnt note the fact the game was modded by ShellyC instead

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your definition of "obvious town" need work tho tbh

no you dont understand this was about a player that literally self admittedly sucks as scum and everyone else who has played with scum them agree

regardless I digress

lets pile onto ircher :3

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I have a special power that I can activate on people who "scumread" this post

it's called OMGUS CANNON

if you are not scared of it you should scumread this post

i townread and nullread this post

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wait thats how scum norwee plays is via omgus D:

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koba scared scumbag confirmed

how can you put those 3 words together in a sentence?

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yes i prefer to let a guinea pig test out the ability because i really like mine

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the 3 words i was talking about was "koba scared scumbag"

because implying i would be scared ever as scum

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town me tho? terrified.

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who the fuck ever clears me by claim without TMI lmao

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and i thought when *i* hydra'd with pooky the spam was bad

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F

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wait deimos holy shit its been over a year since that cult game huh

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looks like they captured it

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fun fact out of the 7 pages so far, pooky hydra literally occupies 3 of them.

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I occupy 1 and ydrasse nearly occupies another one

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confirmed scum dayvig

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pooky is in solidly town posting range rn btw scum pooky doesnt reach 100 posts within 4 hours

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pooky is in solidly town posting range rn btw scum pooky doesnt reach 100 posts within 4 hours

i can turbopost as scum -.-

prove it.

take a poop

and turn that poop into wine


TURN THAT POOP

INTO WINE

TURN THAT POOP INTO WINE

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deimos dont omgus pooky :c just vote ircher

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if i didnt have to replace out bc of IRL reasons u were never winning smh

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alisae taught me the secret to reading ircher ok

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me being pocketed d1 never translates into being pocketed the whole game

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alisae taught me the secret to reading ircher ok

teach me too?

its a vibes thing

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haha cant relate

^oop this is me i accidentally was logged into my alt while looking at this game

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your definition of "obvious town" need work tho tbh

Koba just needs work in general

Put in the effort to be read and ill be accurate

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yes i prefer to let a guinea pig test out the ability because i really like mine

Just putting this out now: I will not claim a single thing about my role this game. It could be good or bad, but you’ll never know until I flip!

Im using mine on you then

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your definition of "obvious town" need work tho tbh

Koba just needs work in general

Put in the effort to be read and ill be accurate

No thanks I don’t feel like busting my ass just for you to continue misreading me and blaming it on stupid shit
Even your adorable little effort tell or whatever it was you had that you brought up in superb idea should be shriveled and withered away at this point. It was already malarkey anyway but I think you should know beyond a shadow of a doubt: your little war chest of tools for reading me is naught but a toy box.

i mean what ur supposed to do is change ur scum meta to better match ur town meta and not the other way around but yeah lol u did the latter

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nah gamma is town

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@datisi just ignore pooky until he grows real reads. Its not worth it

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Galron can solve quickly?

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Sakura scummy

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Ydrasse town

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Btw i am partially an encrytor so scum prob dont have daytalk and tbats why rc let them talk early hahaha

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My claim being ignored ):

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Bzzzzzt
Datisi is town

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Yes.

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i think he is above my current town line is all. People below atp:
Sakura and Ircher

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#confused

Why would Ydrasse ask if his own post was a read?


@Koba, why is Datisi town?

she is trying to convince us that datisi is overreacting to her post because it's not actually a read.

Koba's either wrong!town or scum defending scum

either way we are in Scum!Tisi world

I'm not wrong.
Insisting your read is correct wont.make it correct

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Datisi is very likely just annoyed at you pooky.
This isnt an effective scumhunting method in a large. Knock it off and leave the hyperfocus pressure to micros

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i plan on using my ability on datisi tonight so you can leave him be for today ok?

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titus you dont sort by tone, so what are you on about? You've told me before you dont so frankly it astounds me you are justifying a vote this way

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Btw i am partially an encrytor so scum prob dont have daytalk and tbats why rc let them talk early hahaha

Going to rolefish you here partially.

Are you an encryptor for only your thread(s) then?

I only have 1 thread and yes

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what hyperfocus pressure

I've pressured like 6 people so far and we're not even 1 day in

You havent pressured shit except to yell about datisi.

1 off lines about other slots do not pressure make

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ignoring pooky

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imma be real i thought the encryptor ability was part of my first ability at first do

also pooky prob scum here on reconsideration they're just pushing anyone who disagrees as scum and thats how they were in coaltion

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datisi do you townread sakura?

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Early miller claims are > than rand chance of being town.

agreed. i'm not sure if i've ever seen scum fakeclaim miller, actually.

i dont think i have yet, but i have fakeclaimed it as town

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Early miller claims are > than rand chance of being town.

agreed. i'm not sure if i've ever seen scum fakeclaim miller, actually.

i dont think i have yet, but i have fakeclaimed it as town

Compulsive fruit vendor

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i dont actually feel townvibes from nancy atp

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lol i remember when i hydra'd with nancy i had to tell her to relax and let the moment pass when we were getting scumread by you

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VOTE: cheeky wings

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Nancy

, we are facing scum-

Gamma

and I might be a bit tunneled with

Sakura

but I don't trust their WIM to be town.

I ISOed you and lol @ you thinking I’m avoiding you, I’m just not really putting my primary focus on this game which should honestly be a towntell early on

I really don’t get the Taly sr on you.

I still think jjh doubling down on pushing me here is seriously scummy because he has had a perfect BoP when it comes to never wrongly sr me

until this game

, so I don’t know how to account for that if he isn’t actually scum here.

Koba, when have I ever posted like a gazillion times I’m obvtown in any scumgame ever?

im not digging your reaction to the jjh scumread and they are right that is how you reacted and i distinctly remember like i said having to tell you to not keep reacting that way

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oh to answer the encryptor question its not global its just my PT - which may be a neighborhood, masonry, or neighborizerhood.

i am not claiming wish at this time.

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oh to answer the encryptor question its not global its just my PT - which may be a neighborhood, masonry, or neighborizerhood.

i am not claiming wish at this time.

I'm in a PT with daychat and no one claims encryptor.

So either

1) You're mistaken
2) You're lying
3) Someone in my PT is lying
4) There exists a global encryptor.

Ah well tbh the role isnt worded like a standard encryptor so maybe im interpreting it wrong

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why do you townread sakura is the better question

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noticed you are avoiding mentioning me gamma - i have myself for obvious reasons - but why have you?

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jjh you played against scum me, what do you read me as

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its not going to be a 1:1 reaction + I was there to coach her

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ok yeah this is scum pooky like he was in grand idea lmao

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you don't have to respond to firebringer nancy/cheeky

he is just trolling you cuz he's bored

I townread you for reals

<3

I really hope you’re town and not pocketing me though.

It's ok I keep lots of cool snacks in my pocket you will have a good time in there

reminder not to fall into the habit of strictly only scumreading players posting a lot - under the radar posters need to be kept in the frame of the solve too. All too easy to only scumread people who post a lot.
(That doesn't mean i autotownread high posters as evidenced by my reads currently but also discussion should not focus on high posters only as they're already producing content)

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ok yeah this is scum pooky like he was in grand idea lmao

You get why I’m bullying T3 here right?

no im with my boyfriend and i have loopy brain rn so not following

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I dont think t3 meant votato

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ok yeah this is scum pooky like he was in grand idea lmao

Are you sure because I think it's town!fire

what is the difference between scum fire and town fire to you?

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Thats a ydrasse towntell?

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I hard townread datisi
Datisi who do townread. I want to create a town block ignoring this noise

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how about jjh?

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And taly

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I hard townread datisi
Datisi who do townread. I want to create a town block ignoring this noise

try to convince me this is a genuine attempt at building a townblock and not a pocketing of the local village idiot?

I really cant rn but i think you're a valuable fulcrum player who helps keep town stable as ive seen it b4 and i want to wave off the pressure you're getting unjustly so you're able to shine.
At the very minimum in a scum me world im playing very subtoptomally doing so

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I hard townread datisi
Datisi who do townread. I want to create a town block ignoring this noise

how about jjh?

Pooky what is your read on Koba?

also this can be also be made easier if ydrasse and datisi townread eachother too :c

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hm. koba, i do agree that's a suboptimal move for scum!you to do, knowing what you know of my towngame.

also this can be also be made easier if ydrasse and datisi townread eachother too :c

sell me on town!ydrasse?

idk how to sell it better than that she is like showing cognition in a way i have not seen from scum ydrasse before but like im just trying to get people i do trust at least now to work together as ive seen 0 cohesion thus far.

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I hard townread datisi
Datisi who do townread. I want to create a town block ignoring this noise

how about jjh?

Pooky what is your read on Koba?

also this can be also be made easier if ydrasse and datisi townread eachother too :c

I like this but I would really like an answer about my tm quote. Were you still reading my tm game when I hardpushed TGP?

I know that jjh absolutely had to be but you might have stopped reading before that point.

I think you are purely interested in getting me to townread you and not really trying to solve the game so I've been ignoring you thus far.

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Pooky what is your read on Koba?

Koba skews town for me but I'm not willing to lock it in cuz I have an impeccable record of never misreading them.[that bullshit game where they claimed vig doesn't count cuz lolclaim]


It would be really nice to nail down this read if we elim Datisi cuz Town!Koba is infamous for being pocketed by scumbags.

it does count bc i taught you a valuable lesson in never trusting mechs>dayplay bc that was one of my most blatant scumgames lmfao

but also i dont even tr u this game so hf

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u let me live 3 days after never shooting :X

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I swear there are like 20 new acronyms since I last played only a year and a half ago

i've been playing regularly and I only the other day learned what "BoP" means

meme relevant made by datisi:

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Eh I was mad because this is a 22p game where it's actively difficult to assess the gamestate and its very easy for town to think passively and scum to run the show.

It really pinged me when I suddenly 4-5 slots discussing a read on me and none with a definitive conclusion., or at least not one without some suggested paranoia.

And I genuinely wanted people to see what yhey thought of my claim. It's validity. Etc.

So i reversed the pressure onto everybody forming a read on me by showing my indignation and becoming aggressive.

It certainly worked because I remember several slots replying to my claim or about my AtE. When I review in detail when I have time, I have more info to see who spoke about my slot with an uninformed or informed perspective.

Take it from someone who has some limited success in larges doing this: find town, not scum. It is *so* much more easily to work from a PoE in a Large and veto wagons on people you townread rather than try to convince people you arent collaborating with of your scumreads.

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the great thing is even if im hilariously wrong on d1 i will be able to reeval onto a scum by d2 so ggez

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I have submitted a Gamma Ray Burst action. Put on your shittin' pants.

ah yes i fucking love when townies random dayvig people without consulting thread about the action! always works out great!!!

(fun fact: every fucking game this has happened to me in has resulted in the action killiong a townie and accelerating a town loss )) stop fucking doing this when you roll a dayvig role particularly when you die as a result!)

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ah yes i fucking love when townies random dayvig people without consulting thread about the action! always works out great!!!

No, this is optimal. It will shake things up and give us something to talk about, and it will surprise scum and force them to change their strategy.

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I would love to hear what thought process led you to that conclusion.

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I would love to hear what thought process led you to that conclusion.

There's really no point in waiting. Either you do it early or you don't do it at all. If you do it later in the game, it is more risky, and furthermore, you have a higher chance of being killed before the ability used (given that the ability was claimed).

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I'm 100% ready to genuflect in forgiveness if I screwed up .

are you going to claim who you chose so they can at least post legacy reads or no?

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Please tell me who you targeted so I can tell you whether to rescind it

And this is exactly why I wouldn't tell anyone.

you are essentially throwing thanks

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what a scummy reaction to getting nuked off the planet

aight this post right here is 100% anti-aligned with scum gamma

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the thing is for *reasons* i can see that being a reaction from a town gamma so

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I hard townread datisi
Datisi who do townread. I want to create a town block ignoring this noise

can we just sheep all of Kobe's lockdowns regardless of alignment

true If im scum im 100% like pocketing datisi here rather than trying to save a partner because if im scum trying to save a partner i try to argue others out of it rather than going out of my way to ignore everyone and appeal to them

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datisi isnt a village idiot, i appreciate his input in games even if his reads arent good he stabilizes thread mood.

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im accounting for recent stuff bc normally i'd agree with that.

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regardless this situation is win win for me bc if gamma flips scum cool we're 1 step closer and if its town then i can start gaining control over thread movement

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Along with Gamma, I was considering nuking Ydrasse, FirePooky, koba, and Wisdom. I felt Gamma had the most associatives, but I haven't liked any of them this far.

I'm not a fan of FirePooky noise, but I think they are a party hydra. I wouldn't put it past them being town and just fucking off.

I didn't like koba possibly back tracking on the encryptor claim.

I didn't like Ydrasse asking for a day. That usually sets off alarms that they have an ability they really want to get off.

Wisdom is just vibes, nothing substantial.

"POSSIBLY BACKTRACKING"

yes me misreading a separate section in my role that is after my ability that explicitly states i can speak in a PT and mistaking it as an encryptor and realizing it might not actually be that is backtracking

screw off

you're sorting by mechs and thats a noob as shit strategy that never works. get with the time and read what people say instead of what people claim.

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people like you toog is why i get away with claiming townie sounding roles as scum and live for longer than i should while openwolfing

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gamma frustration is NAI here and gamma knows i know why.

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"POSSIBLY BACKTRACKING"

yes me misreading a separate section in my role that is after my ability that explicitly states i can speak in a PT and mistaking it as an encryptor and realizing it might not actually be that is backtracking

screw off

you're sorting by mechs and thats a noob as shit strategy that never works. get with the time and read what people say instead of what people claim.

people like you toog is why i get away with claiming townie sounding roles as scum and live for longer than i should while openwolfing

im right and youre too prideful to admit it <3

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Tooges is not prideful lol wtf

then make an opinion on his take about me mistaking the part of my role that i thought was an encryptor instead of trying to pick and choose what you react to. because its a nice easy way to look busy to react to that part and not the actual content part.

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well thats dumb and i feel justified not praying now.

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just because someone's claim is towny != they are town.

+1

That’s a towny sounding claim is exactly the kind of reaction that makes a good scumrole.

i keep telling people this but no one listens ): but fr the alternative wincon was a little bs with the tools available to look townie enough to live to the end ):

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It was quite a struggle, with Victorine basically being non existant, GMo slipping TMI, then SS being suspected and Gamma having to leave and the replacement being insta suspected.
Didn't know what else to do BUT to bus, specially considering my abilities.

I used the strongman vig on NK15, then i triple rolecop'd Gypyx, Deimos and Galron. (In hindsight im quite surprised ppl didnt ask me about what my other rolecop results were, i did claim and unblockable triple role cop), ending with a loyal vig on Enchant (i figured enchant would be next to die anyway and i'd get more towncred from vigging them and making a town and a scum kill appear at the same time)

lmao u could win by hellbussing all game based on that wincon cuz you get prayers faster

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I consciously had warning bells ringing in my head like IF SAKURA IS 2S WHY DIDN'T SHE SHOOT AGAIN TONIGHT but I convinced myself that since she caught not one but two scum singlehandedly she had to be town

yeah her role was easy bus to win material lol. the early game prayers tho they were moreso who shouldnt have prayed cuz sakura was least townie in the early game. late game was moreso just cuz she was alive.

i would have 50/50 prayed in your position too.

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also random: stop giving townies vigs that work on d1. they dont deserve it.

townies will always use it in the worst way possible and ruin the game for the people who are in the game.

it's just not a good role.

we lost a whole mislim on d1 because of a person who didnt want to be patient with their role. its just obnoxious as hell when it happens and ive never won a game where a townie uses a vig on d1 outside of chat mafia where its an intended setup design thing.

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not that funny when youre the one being blown up for being reasonably upset at a lol-use of the ability

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OUCH. Even the dead thread thought I was scum... :/

It's not that you were scummy. We were just looking for ANY answer about what was going on. Sakura's bus was very good.

Also RC lied to me and said sakura has a disloyal vig

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