Anything uPick (Endgame)

[Datisi]

ego

@mod vla every tuesday and thursday due to uni

@whoever doesn't have an avatar, please get one, it makes the game much easier for me to read if everyone has an avi

VOTE: deimos

goodnight

[Datisi]

@whoever doesn't have an avatar, please get one, it makes the game much easier for me to read if everyone has an avi

i will furiously assail anyone who does not abide by this because i believe deeply that datisi deserves only the best treatment

you believe i deserve only the best treatment, yet you vote to yeet me in your second post? curious.

HAHA DATISI ROLLED SCUM

i see pooky has once again decided to use the "shitpush me right out of the gate for absolute nonsense reasons" strategy.

[Datisi]

in the efforts of posting CONTENT this game, a tidbit so far

Spoiler:

i actually wondered if datisi would be more hype to post as town instead of dropping the good night post and leaving like where is the HYPE

this actually feels bad, though. "datisi post = town; datisi not post = scum" has been untrue for a very long time, and ydrasse knows this. hell, i don't know if she's even aware that it's ever been true, considering it's been untrue in her first encounter with scumtisi. so calling me out for not being hyped and equating that with being scum!indicative feels... odd.

by the way, it was 2am at the time i wrote that post. i was about to fall asleep, but i decided to check ms one last time before i do so, and i saw the game had started. so i decided to egopost. and i'm also somewhat sure ydrasse knows my timezone, so.

this read is bizarre enough i'd think of it as a meme, but considering that in 74 she said it's serious... don't like it.

VOTE: ydrasse

her posting up to this post also reminded me a bit of scum!her tonally, but i've never actually seen town!ydrasse with an uninformed perspective, so who knows. i do want to say koba is slightly +town for ~the mindmeld~, assuming their read was serious.

[Datisi]

i see pooky has once again decided to use the "shitpush me right out of the gate for absolute nonsense reasons" strategy.

name one time i've used that strategy on you before

go

it's 9am and i haven't had my coffee yet, chill. you used this same bullshit in that white flag game, where you entered the game screaming how i'm scumbuddies with implosion and you were ignoring anything i was saying.

i'm assuming you're trying to do some bullshit reaction test with seeing how i work under pressure or something, and since you've done a similar thing as town before i don't want to instantly murder you for it, but holy hell it's annoying.

[Datisi]

Also, I have decided that for the duration of this game, I will use no avatar. Starting in 2 minutes.

ircher, why do you fucking hate me?

[Datisi]

what no i wasn't

I stopped scumreading you as soon as implo towntold under pressure

"entered the game pushing me for bullshit reasons" is the part that's similar. i'm assuming you're doing some sorta react test *this game*.

of course, if you're not, you're free to explain why my first post makes me lockscum in your eyes.

[Datisi]

cuz you ghosted this game hella fast and you refuse to vote for obvscum ircher

i posted at 2am when i was in bed and about to fall asleep. you can answer the same question as ydrasse though, since when is me "ghosting" a game scum!indicative? and i don't see any reason to vote him yet.

explain why you townread me

i do not.

[Datisi]

Datisi (15%): He left as quickly as he came.

why am i above the null line?

@pooky, i don't have a read on you, i know you're capable of being this annoying as either alignment. and i've been going to bed at 11pm every day since my uni started, so can you not shame me for finally having my sleep schedule mostly in order. >_>

[Datisi]

fam, why would i scumread you when i know your read on me is bullshit? and i don't mean bullshit as "scummy", i mean bullshit as "clearly made up". we both know that i'm still firmly within both my townrange and scumrange. scumreading you back for it wouldn't be helpful for solving the game, it would just take up even more thread space.

which, btw, you got that wrong. scumtisi loves to omgus bullshit like this because it gives me a *very* easy way to look active and productive while actually having no reads and taking up thread space. ad has a bonus of "surely scum!tisi doesn't show this kinda bravado, right?"

[Datisi]

i'm not indecisive, my read on you is annoying null.

[Datisi]

do you genuinely believe that town!me is incapable of seeing when someone is clearly doing a stupid reaction test and knowing that they can do it as town? like, do you really think i'm that bad of a player who would mindlessly scumread any and every bit of pressure that goes my way? i know you're provoking me. you can do that as either alignment. leave me alone.

[Datisi]

ok i'm caught up to where i started posting.

deimos doesn't sound like he hates this game and his own life so i'm gonna say slight +town. the votes on ircher were for bad reasons, up until his vote on gamma which is somewhat eyebrow raising, but i like my vote on ydrasse much better. everyone else is pure noise.

[Datisi]

When was your most recent game with scum!Ydra? Mine was early 2020 if I remember correctly.

july this year. why do you ask?

also, if that was a serious quetion, i voted deimos because he voted me.

[Datisi]

When was your most recent game with scum!Ydra? Mine was early 2020 if I remember correctly.

july this year. why do you ask?

also, if that was a serious quetion, i voted deimos because he voted me.

Wait why does

Deimos

connect to your

Ydra

expertise?

I asked because I wanted to see who had the freshest eyes of

Ydra's

scumgame How would you describe her play as scum?

he doesn't, i just wanted to answer cheeky's question regarding my vote of him in the same post.

don't think i have a great answer to that. i can give you a general description of ydra's play, but i've never been in a game where i've seen her play a town from an uninformed perspective (all of her towngames i've seen first hand were either when i was scum or when i was the mod, neither of which help me meta-wise).

do you think it would be in any sort of way productive if i actually gave you a description of what i think her scumgame is like?

[Datisi]

the reason i ask is because "what do you think of x's scumgame" is not a very sorty question. that is, i don't think my own alignment actually influence the answer, as you're asking me about my prior knowledge that's unrelated to my role pm. and i don't think it actually helps you sort ydra that much either, considering she can also read the answer and potentially play around it.

do you mean my response to ydra's post about me or my response to your question? if it's the former, what did you get from the way i arrived to my answer?

[Datisi]

?

didn't you literally say that you thought town!me would be more excited about this game and would've posted more? i'm not assuming anything.

[Datisi]

okay, but that doesn't negate my problems with it. x_x like where did you get the idea that scum!me is so less excited about a game than town!me that i would just do that.

[Datisi]

it was just “why drop the obligatory in here post and leave and not be excited for ur role and stuff for a bit longer”

because it was 2am? and i sleep sometimes?

[Datisi]

i think if it was 2am i like my role enough to be really excited and post more so seeing not that is a ? moment 2 me which is why i was thinking about it but i guess more people aren’t that excited

why does this smell like a rolefish.

[Datisi]

like, asking people if they're excited about their role lowkey feels like trying to figure out if they have something good.

i know scum is usually not this blatant about it, but come on.

[Datisi]

you do know i filter out and forget unimportant posts like that, right?

i mean, if i wanted to really argue about this, i'd say that then your suspicion about me being not excited doesn't make any sense if you were talking about flavour, since flavour is not related to alignment and i picked it myself, but i have to go do things and i feel this conversation isn't productive.

[Datisi]

jesus

we were having it because i suspect your early read on me is bs but i can see that we're getting into arguing about technicalities that won't help me read you further and will just make me annoyed and that everyone else will skim over and not read.

[Datisi]

do you have a read on me based on this conversation?

[Datisi]

u are either scum or a little dumb

i want to get mad at this, but this is like, a pretty decent descriptor of me playing mafia as a whole.

[Datisi]

because she said it's not a read, it's just a thought, a hypothetical scenario. or something like that, idk.

titus, what part of my game are you comparing?

[Datisi]

i mean, there wasn't an annoying bear in that last game that was breathing down my neck since minute one. and my tone is often a bit awkward early, as either alignment. it'll get better.

i hope koba is a neighbourizer, i wanna get targeted by a neighbourizer.

pooky, i'm not that shit of a player. i don't mindlessly omgus when i don't think the person attacking me has ill intent. you're just annoying.

[Datisi]

i'm not reading you off meta, not really. i have no idea what your usual levels of enthusiasm are for town! or scum!you since i've never played with you. i'm just going off what you said in the game i recently modded.

pedit: uhhhh, without knowing anything else, b

[Datisi]

VOTE: Datisi

i was gonna make a joke about how you must've been checking the wrong finger but apparently you deigned to actually make an ok vote
disappointed

what do you think about his reasoning for the vote?

[Datisi]

does nk15 not have a vote and can't be voted or did the mod fuck up the vc's?

[Datisi]

VOTE: not known 15

[Datisi]

actually i just remembered this is a bastard game, surely nk15 isn't some sorta role that venges the first person to vote them haha right

[Datisi]

oh, he's done things like this before?

[Datisi]

VOTE: ydrasse

[Datisi]

datisi do you townread sakura?

not really. i'd say 403 is mildly townie, but i am biased.

Am I missing something with

Ydra's

posts?

i still dislike her early poke at me, her explanation didn't really satisfy me, and i don't have a more interesting target right now, so /shrug

[Datisi]

ok i'm caught up to where i started posting.

deimos doesn't sound like he hates this game and his own life so i'm gonna say slight +town. the votes on ircher were for bad reasons, up until his vote on gamma which is somewhat eyebrow raising, but i like my vote on ydrasse much better. everyone else is pure noise.

this post is v vague

is that a problem?

[Datisi]

didn't ydra pocket you to hell and back in silent star?

[Datisi]

okay, i'll try again

nancy, why do you feel confident having such a strong read on ydrasse so early in the game

[Datisi]

and because i'm not scumreading either of those slots and don't want a spammy back and forth that helps nobody:

jjh, can you please link some of those games where you correctly/incorrectly voted nancy?

[Datisi]

I need people to break down those

Datisi

townreads.

didn't you start off with townreading me? something caused that to change?

[Datisi]

what are the Things she's doing here that make her town?

What is your read on Pooky/Fire?

very annoying. i'm probably going to be ignoring that slot completely until pooky starts acting normally.

[Datisi]

here's another vague post: i have a basic bitch reason to think ircher is town

[Datisi]

i think we have a very different definitions of "doing things that make her town". i have in fact read her iso.

[Datisi]

Early miller claims are > than rand chance of being town.

agreed. i'm not sure if i've ever seen scum fakeclaim miller, actually.

[Datisi]

i've got a test in 15 minutes so i can't catch up now, but i did want to respond to gamma's vote

ok i'm caught up to where i started posting.

deimos doesn't sound like he hates this game and his own life so i'm gonna say slight +town. the votes on ircher were for bad reasons, up until his vote on gamma which is somewhat eyebrow raising, but i like my vote on ydrasse much better. everyone else is pure noise.

this post is v vague

is that a problem?

You’re saying things are xyz but not doing anything with it, so like, yeah

okay but like, those are reads based on vibes. i explained why i thought them. what do you imagine i *can* do with them? especially as i was voting ydra already.

didn't ydra pocket you to hell and back in silent star?

FireBear is right about you, huh?

???
do you think i wouldn't be skeptical of someone saying they townread a slot i'm scumreading when i know they have blundered that slot before?

VOTE: Datisi because page 23 makes me feel good enough about this vote

this post is also very vague

use your actual words

[Datisi]

It sounds like you find both Ircher and me sus in that post but you don’t draw a conclusion on what you actually feel about the situation which looks like leaving options open
The other 2 posts are me being bothered by you discrediting TRs on Ydrasse for like no reason
Someone else noticed you seemed peeved and I agree, and I think it’s because Ydrasse getting TR so easily is a threat for you

no, i was saying i didn't like ircher's vote on you
i always question townreads on slots that i'm scumreading, that's not "for no reason"
and have you considered that i'm peeved because i'm being shitpushed for no reason?

didn't ydra pocket you to hell and back in silent star?

Anyway, I forgot this post. This game is reversed for me as this time it’s Pooky I’m not tr because this looks like typical town Ydra meta here but I think both Fire and Pooky look to be in their scum meta here.

the point of that post was to get you to reevaluate your meta townread on ydrasse, because i've seen how that ended up last time. i'm not up to date with the thread yet, have pooky/fire done anything other than shitpush everyone who's not scumreading them?

[Datisi]

actually, why would ydrasse being townread early be a threat to me? no offense to her, but she doesn't have a reputation of having a super great read rate on me, and if i'm scum here, i have like, 17 other townies i can shitpush if i want to.

[Datisi]

Like for as excited as she feels to be playing for whatever reasons she says, she doesnt seem to be... doing much?

oh, interesting catch, i like it.

Like in Yin and Yang, she was aggro and jumped on slots that were suss on her. Here she’s very clearly re-evaluating. I have > than rand reads especially on players I have meta on, so I feel pretty good about that read.

uh, where has she re-evaluated *anything* in this game? like, the closest thing to re-evaluation i found in her iso is 393, and even that is a stretch.

[Datisi]

i'm going to ignore every single post going forward where nancy is talking about jjh. they're just the same post put on repeat meant to clog the thread.

also it feels kinda annoying to be making a meta read on a fresh alt account that nobody else has any clue who it even is. (unless they outed somewhere and i missed it.) oh, i see they said joan, but no idea what game is even being mentioned, and obligatory i don't do second hand meta, so will likely ignore that too.

Yeah, why the fuck are

Deimos/Titus

the only people acknowledging my claim?

Rest of y’all piss me off while you shelve and fencesit on my slot FFS.

I'm out for the night.

why is this post so aggressive? you said yourself that people not out it publically if they can redirect you or not. did i miss another claim? if not, why are you mad about people not interacting with what you said?

[Datisi]

Yeah, why the fuck are

Deimos/Titus

the only people acknowledging my claim?

Rest of y’all piss me off while you shelve and fencesit on my slot FFS.

I'm out for the night.

I don't really get where this emotional reaction came from either ftr. First shred of doubt on my Taly tr.

I think it's ok to treat certain claims as alignment-indicative as long as we continue to also read those players behaviourally and cross-check the conclusions.

oh, this is a post that exists. something something mindmeld?

though, why were you townreading taly for up to this point?

[Datisi]

also i am very annoyed about ydrasse apparently dipping the thread until day two

VOTE: gamma emerald

not sure i dig her scumread on me and the reasoning for it

ftr i am still very much in favour of yeeting ydrasse (usually i'd say pressuring but i see that's not gonna work) but if she's just gonna vanish like that i don't want my vote to be completely useless

[Datisi]

i also wouldn't be against voting cheekywings, for the record.

way too many slots still feel like mud.

[Datisi]

it kinda baffles me that you're implying that scum!me here would be trying to shoehorn your yeet? like, if you think i'd be sitting on you for longer, sure whatever, but...?

[Datisi]

no, i was saying i didn't like ircher's vote on you
i always question townreads on slots that i'm scumreading, that's not "for no reason"
and have you considered that i'm peeved because i'm being shitpushed for no reason?

You also said votes on Ircher, including mine, were bad. And yet there’s no real diving into whether me/Ircher could be partnered or not?
Why is Ydrasse an SR for you rn?

i don't care about hunting for s/s pairs on day one, especially not 13 pages in.
have you read anything that i have posted so far? you can ctrl+f her name in my iso.

[Datisi]

since when is ydrasse saying things like "haha i will be townie" a towntell? it sounds extremely easy to mimick as scum.

[Datisi]

i don't really care about whether she has or hasn't done that as scum before. my point is that it's an extremely easy thing to replicate as scum, therefore it wouldn't be difficult to imagine scum!ydra doing it at some point. especially if she was aware of the fact you use that to townread her.

and again, the point of "as scum, she either does x or y" is not really convincing because... that's assuming scum!ydra has literally only two modes of operation, and that she would never say "yeah i'll do stuff later". which like, sorry but that's not good grounds for a townread.

[Datisi]

just because those aren't good reasons to townread her doesn't mean those are reasons to scumread her. i'm scumreading her bc her intro read about me ghosting therefore me scum was very weird and obviously false, the backtrack she tried to do when i called her out on it was somewhat awkward, i feel like she's townreading me to placate me, and on the overall scale, she's done... nothing? like, you haven't responded to me asking where is she re-evaluating anything.

not sure which micro you're talking about, but i think we're both good enough players to know that scum doesn't always play the same way, and you playing very differently from one previous scumgame isn't gonna cut it. also i feel like you started with your "i am obvtown how fucking dare you" shtick waaay too early, the game had only started and nobody (including you) has done much of anything yet. it feels like you're reading from a town's you script, unaware that you started reading from it too early.

granted, this is not a super strong read, because i know i am biased towards scumreading some people more than others, but /shrug.

also, i just remembered, i think i was also scumreading you ar first in yin and yang, and i don't think you called it concerming or anything. gives more vibes that you're faking here, but i would actually have to go back and check that game to be sure. and since i don't feel like actually running you up yet, i'm too lazy to do that.

[Datisi]

i mean, my read isn't solely dependent on how you were playing in that game, but sure, keep insulting everyone that dares to doubt you.

[Datisi]

i am literally not even voting you. i just mentioned in pass that i don't townread you and that i could vote you in the future. i literally don't care about running up your slot and was willing to let you do your thing. you didn't have to fight off anything, i wasn't attacking you.

and like, this is mafia. scum fakes things. your reaction seemed way over the top. if your point is that you never fake emotions, even as scum, then... alright, i guess? i'm not too interested in that discussion because i already see it's not going to go anywhere productive.

[Datisi]

titus, you had a tone scumread on me, do you mind talking about since when you're reading things on tone and what's the status on the read now?

[Datisi]

titus, can you acknowledge my 1017, please?

[Datisi]

Datisi who do townread. I want to create a town block ignoring this noise

not that many people actually :/

you, deimos, ircher, and i guess sakura (though i want to hear more about her vote on victorine) are my vibe townreads, but i don't think any of these are townblock material for me yet. toog and loftwing are +town for me due to their claims, but again, nothing i'd lock in yet.

[Datisi]

i'd say i would sit down and try to find more townreads, but i know that won't actually happen. i suspect quite a bit of people that are actively posting, and (probably) more than half the game hasn't posted enough for me to get a read on them regrdless. rereading things likely won't help, i need more things to happen i guess. mainly from the no content slots.

hopefully some of them produce stuff while i'm vla tomorrow.

pedit: jjh is townie on tone, but it's so slight i wouldn't even call it a townread. mainly because i'm sure scum!him is decent enough to fake it, and i definitely want to see more content from him.

taly is... frustratingly null for me. the only thing that actively pinged me was the fact he seemed to have a sudden aggressive reaction to people not acknowledging his claim, and i'm waiting on the response about that.

[Datisi]

I hard townread datisi
Datisi who do townread. I want to create a town block ignoring this noise

try to convince me this is a genuine attempt at building a townblock and not a pocketing of the local village idiot?

[Datisi]

heard a rumor datisi townread me

the rumours are lying to you

[Datisi]

The biggest problem is all the people I feel like wagoning aren't active enough to respond to pressure. :/

And who precisely would that be?

You Victorine Clemency.

why do you wanna wagon victorine or clemency? what separates them from most the other no content slots?

[Datisi]

heard a rumor datisi townread me

the rumours are lying to you

why’d you say it in our pt then sir?

i can assure you that was not me

[Datisi]

and have you considered that i'm peeved because i'm being shitpushed for no reason?

I wouldn’t say it’s “for no reason” and you swiping at me for using that wording out of turn just to use it yourself shows a stunning lack of self-awareness. And what about the push on you is bad here? I and others think Ydrasse is town, you seem to have a problem with that, and on some level it feels scum-motivated.

pooky started shitpushing me because i wrote one post then ghosted the thread, and then he started pushing me for not scumreading him back, because apparently that means i am terrified scum who's afraid of getting into a small shitfight. i don't think it's too unrealistic to say that those reasons are obviously nonsense.

i pretty much explained why i didn't like your push on me. your accusations of me being annoyed and of me questioning others's reads of ydrasse seem to be automatically assuming the worst case scenario without actually considering what is more likely to be happening. and your claim of me being threatened by ydrasse being townread also makes no sense, because how is that a threat to me?

[Datisi]

heard a rumor datisi townread me

the rumours are lying to you

why’d you say it in our pt then sir?

i can assure you that was not me

i have the logs why are you lying.......

Wait, what?

uh, not sure what ydrasse is doing, but i am not in any pt's with ydrasse. i thought she was just shitposting.

[Datisi]

@gamma, sure i'm grabbing onto that, but it's because i actually don't like it. and that's not my only point against you. like, do you think pooky's reasons for pressuring me are actually legitimate? any good? do you think it's actually realistic for someone to start looking into possible associatives and scum pairs of page 13 in a 23 player game because their two suspects also suspect each other? you didn't respond at all to the reasons why i actually suspect ydrasse.

none of these things are that bad by themselves, but each of them is a bit ? and they just add up

[Datisi]

hm. koba, i do agree that's a suboptimal move for scum!you to do, knowing what you know of my towngame.

also this can be also be made easier if ydrasse and datisi townread eachother too :c

sell me on town!ydrasse?

[Datisi]

What do you make of us claiming a possibly -ve utility role in our first few posts?

i'mma be real, i completely forgot about that. i'd say town indicative, but only very slightly so. the "could be negative, depending on stuff" is pretty vague and leaves enough room for scum!you to have freedom in claiming, so it's not as town!indicative as "oh btw i am a miller"/"i can literally kill someone and myself".

[Datisi]

idk how to sell it better than that she is like showing cognition in a way i have not seen from scum ydrasse before

i guess my issue is that i haven't seen anything that implies... cognition. i feel like the vast majority of her posts so far have been shitposting, and the only read/trajectory she's had so far this game has been on me, and that one isn't really impressive to me. like, same as nancy saying ydra's re-evaluating. *where*?

[Datisi]

@koba, i think you're a good player though and i'm fine semi-sheeping you on things for the time being, i know you can build a decent townblock. still would want someone to actually elaborate on the ydra read i guess. x_x

bed time for me, tomorrow's a busy day, i'll be back when i can.

[Datisi]

i'm scumreading her bc her intro read about me ghosting therefore me scum was very weird and obviously false, the backtrack she tried to do when i called her out on it was somewhat awkward, i feel like she's townreading me to placate me, and on the overall scale, she's done... nothing? like, you haven't responded to me asking where is she re-evaluating anything.

@gamms

[Datisi]

can agree 1073 is townie.

[Datisi]

i mean i'm willing to chalk it up to him being busy with uni IRL but I need to see him like try or whatever

it's not about irl. it's about most of the game lurking and being unreadable to me. i'm trying to solve where i can, but you're not getting heavy analysis yet, i don't have anything to analyze.

[Datisi]

Datisi can you link some recent scumgames?

everything is on my wiki page. except for this game, which ended earlier today and i haven't linked it there yet: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88015

[Datisi]

you know, just as i am about to start townreading nancy, she drops some bullshit "wow gamma and datisi were distancing, it's sUpEr ObViOuS" and sigh

Datisi can you link some recent scumgames?

everything is on my wiki page. except for this game, which ended earlier today and i haven't linked it there yet: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88015

That game you were making tons of fake reads. I guess I’ll have to check your Wiki.

K, ISO’d a few more and you we’re either doing the fake reads thing or you weren’t actually trying to solve.

what does this post mean and how does it connect to this game?

[Datisi]

You would have gotten a lot further with Cheeky’s obviously town but wrong

guess what? i know this. i know this because you do the same bullshit every single game. you yell and scream at anyone who dares to suggest you're not town. it's extremely easy to asskiss you and get you to leave me alone. you know why i didn't do that? because i don't give a fuck about actually pocketing you.

now, you're free to elaborate on what games did you read, how they align with my play here, and why it made you do a 180 on me.

[Datisi]

as for when did it happen, it didn't happen in thread. as i was falling asleep yesterday, i was thinking about this game and i thought how you're showing enough incentive to solve that i'm willing to townbin you. and then i wake up and read *that*.

[Datisi]

why though.

[Datisi]

Oh no was koba wrong about you

use your words.

[Datisi]

Datisi is flaming obvscum

???

you were townreading me up to last night. then you allegedly read some of my scumgames, heard pooky call me scum, but only actually said you scumread me when gamma made a weird post towards me. this progrssion doesn't add up at all.

[Datisi]

VOTE: cheeky wings

i'm parking here until this matter gets resolved. she wasn't scumreading me before, then suddenly she's purely sheeping pooky on me, *and* calling me obvscum. nah, that doesn't work like that.

[Datisi]

1331 says all you need to know.

[Datisi]

stop fucking misrepping me. it's not about you trusting pooky. it's about you both trusting pooky *and* calling me obvscum despite not scumreading me previously. it's either one or the other.

[Datisi]

not to mention your original suspicion on me was because gamma apparently "spewed us as buddies", which wasn't even a pooky sheep. and you haven't said anything about the meta you did on me. but suuuure.

[Datisi]

and cheeky, to understeand stuff more, how did your Datisi SR come to be basically?

she's sheeping pooky on me and she's sure gamma is scum who spewed me as his partner (despite calling us *never* s/s a few pages prior, what a comedy) and also apparently doing meta of me. somewhere in that mess i went from townread to flaming obvscum.

[Datisi]

lol? what part of this game am i apaprently suppose to know is outside your scum meta?

[Datisi]

You were in micro.

yes.

So you know the only reason I’d powerwolf as scum was if I had to stop a town slot from flipping like I did with Dstjr and Pooky.

w h a t

how in the ever loving fuck am i supposed to know this? please explain to me how, by playing in that one scumgame of yours, am i supposed to magically know that what you did there (powerwolfing to stop a town slot from flipping) is the only ever reason you would *ever* powerwolf?

[Datisi]

i gotta pretend to be paying attention in class now, be back later.

[Datisi]

Because it’s literally the only time I’ve done it. In my scumgames I’ve pushed town but not not like I did with Djstr. I never would have done that if I didn’t need to protect duckling because we couldn’t let town!Pooky be flipped in that.

you *do* understand that just because i've seen you powerwolf once for that specific reason, i have literally no way of knowing that you have never powerwolfed as scum in any other game ever? like, from my pov, scum!you powerwolfs 100% of the time. if anything, i'm using the meta i have available to me correctly >_>

[Datisi]

Why is it between us two
I’m not feeling tooo great about my Datisi SR and Deimos pushing me/Datisi as a dichotomy feels kinda yucky as a result

This is why I think Gamma/Dats are buddies because Gamma was hard tunnelling Dats over Ydrasse push and made this post after toog claimed he was bombing him.

lmfao
if gamma thought he was about to die, in the middle of shitpushing his own partner, WHY would he suddenly ease up the pressure on me? like, the only logical move there is to keep screaming how i'm scum because it makes us unaligned.

and i see no response to the "you've seen me powerwolf in the only scumgame of mine you've played in, therefore you should know that that is the only time i have ever powerwolfed and that i don't do it as scum any other time".

[Datisi]

re 1398 - i can't explain that because i am not a mindreader. i'm just saying the scum!motivation for that interaction for a partner is completely nonexistent, and you're using the "something didn't make sense to me therefore it has to be scum/scum". which like. you're not that bad at the game, come on.

did either of pooky or taly try to spin that narrative about that being a scum/scum thing between me and gamma? i don't have a problem with someone scumreading both of us. i have a problem with someone spewing obvious bad faith nonsense.

noted you're still evading the meta question.

[Datisi]

Friends should I vote Datisi or Gamma

Why is it between us two
I’m not feeling tooo great about my Datisi SR and Deimos pushing me/Datisi as a dichotomy feels kinda yucky as a result

K, if you guys are going to vote one of them, then vote Datisi, because I did in fact nuke Gamma.

@nancy

your timeline is fucking broken

fucking l m f a o

[Datisi]

okay, this class is annoying me way more than this game, i don't feel like being a petty ass here anymore

UNVOTE: cheeky wings
VOTE: queen

[Datisi]

You Have Strange Searches On Your Computer Datisi

Btw, I have no clue wtf this even means.

i swear, my browser search history isn't *that* weird.

[Datisi]

question to anyone

except

for nancy: has she ever done the "omfg i am so blazingly obvtown you're a fucking moron for even breathing wrong my way" thing as scum?

[Datisi]

there's a reason why i asked everyone except you about your meta.

pedit: @nancy
also i'm mad again for koba being bombed
there are ten bajilion lurkers why you gotta bomb koba

[Datisi]

sakura, do you want me to townread you

[Datisi]

sakura, do you want me to townread you

What is the point of this question? No one is going to answer “no” to this?

her role interacts with people that townread her. i'm feeling brave enough to risk getting targeted by whatever her role does.

[Datisi]

But why are you tr Gamma and voting an nai lurker slot?

i don't remember townreading gamma. and because i feel like that's where my vote is the most useful at the moment. i'm not really vibing with my gamma vote anymore, it's not helping me read her at all. and one of my main problems this game is that so many slots are doing nothing and if i'm not able to get at least some sorta read on most people in the game, it causes me a mental block. so i'm trying to provoke some activity out of them.

[Datisi]

in the game i modded, queen seemed to be at least like, doing something and giving out reads. i don't think her roleplaying means it's a troll slot.

[Datisi]

idk i’m voting gamma bc of some wack posts and reactions and then immediately after chaos “haha guys let’s vote this slot!” that hasn’t done a lot to alleviate pressure

can you translate this into english please

[Datisi]

i think he made a gross post when i voted him

what post are you thinking of here? i scanned through his iso a bit, but i couldn't find it

pedit: yeah, if she does. she's not doing that right now.

[Datisi]

at the time i asked that, i forgot that you said that you need dead town to townread you, i just remembered that you need other people to townread you.

[Datisi]

there's something so funny about "scum will probably kill me, but that's better than trying to figure out how to not get killed and actually use my role".

also i townread sakura.

[Datisi]

it only now occurred to me this could theoretically be a scum role that gets more powerful if people townread her. oh well.

[Datisi]

t3, you still haven't elaborated on that cheap shot you took at me earlier

[Datisi]

oh, you hadn't even posted since then, god this game is moving fast, whatever

[Datisi]

here's a lukewarm take: i think gypyx is town

[Datisi]

i absolutely love how in like half a day we went from "gamma is obvious scum and also he's spewing datisi as partner" to "his iso screams town!gamma"

[Datisi]

the "we" is nancy. not sure why i said we there, it felt appropriate.

[Datisi]

i am not sure why jjh thinks i would actually push one of the loudest slots in the game that i know have a 125% chance of omgusing me into oblivion, but something something self meta

jjh, what didn't you like about my vote? other than it being a "counterwagon attempt".

[Datisi]

the "we" is nancy. not sure why i said we there, it felt appropriate.

did you actually change your read on gamma?

cuz you said you felt his reaction was townie

and I don't think you've changed?

so why the we?

the "we" wasn't meant as "me and nancy", it was meant as "nancy". i sometimes use "we" to refer to someone else when i wanna point out their thoughts or actions are weird / unexpected / silly. i'm not sure if it's a thing in english >_>

i legit don't even remember saying gamma's reaction to anything was townie, lemme skim through my iso, just a sec

[Datisi]

cuz you said you felt his reaction was townie

yeah, i cannot find this at all. when did i townread his reaction?

[Datisi]

i am not sure why jjh thinks i would actually push one of the loudest slots in the game that i know have a 125% chance of omgusing me into oblivion, but something something self meta

jjh, what didn't you like about my vote? other than it being a "counterwagon attempt".

Do you think that voting you for reasons you perceive as bad after she changes her mind on a whim to be something that only scum!nancy does or would town!nancy do that too

considering i currently don't feel like ripping her head off, i can see town!nancy doing that. in the moment it felt scummy, but as the conversation kept going, my scumread on her kinda disappeared, but i wanted to be sure so i kept pushing at her to see if she's legit. and then i had a class that really got on my nerves and i didn't feel like doing that anymore.

[Datisi]

cuz you said you felt his reaction was townie

yeah, i cannot find this at all. when did i townread his reaction?

i couldnt find it either

i blame alcohol abuse

i could swear I saw a post last night where you were like saying gammas reaction was townie

but now I can't find it

very confusing

i think you're the second person this game to go "datisi, why do you townread gamma" when i never townread him so idk lol

[Datisi]

btw how do you read his reaction to getting fake-dayvigged

the "why tho" is like. whatever. i can see it from either alignment. i'm not sure i buy the gif posting as 100% lolcatting because the "lol i am a dayvig i just submit a shot" is such a common reaction test in games that i don't feel anyone with more than two games of experience would fall for it.

[Datisi]

But why are you tr Gamma and voting an nai lurker slot?

i don't remember townreading gamma.

[Datisi]

Yes. Go find my post where I link every game I've played with Nancy that I could find

sorry i don't do second hand meta
if you want to give me a clear yes or no, that'd be grand

[Datisi]

yeah ok let's see

VOTE: deimos

[Datisi]

it's been a while since i've failed basic english comprehension this bad this many times in a short time frame but here we are

[Datisi]

the memory is deepset enough in my brain that I'm not handwaving it as a fake memory from sleep deprivation/alcohol abuse and possibly some scum role that can delete posts in thread

Which posts?

both you and pooky asked me why i was townreading gamma. i never said i was townreading gamma. so the only logical explanation is that my role allows me to tell rc to delete my posts.

[Datisi]

the mandela effect is real

[Datisi]

i sometimes use "we" to refer to someone else when i wanna point out their thoughts or actions are weird / unexpected / silly. i'm not sure if it's a thing in english >_>

@pooky, is this seriously not a thing in english

have i been embarrassing myself in front of english spekaers for years

[Datisi]

okay thanks, i started questioning if i made the phrasing up completely

did someone say something about roles altering memories and sanities? it's feeling like that lel

also @gamma, what games are you comparing the frustrations to? or what's different iyo

[Datisi]

i mean, i also thought the claim and vig shot were legit considering he seroousclaimed early on. but i also think that the vigshot "reaction tests" are so common that if you're scum, even if you 100% believe a claim, there would probably be enough brain in there to know to not go full lolcat

[Datisi]

@mod, plrease prod Queen

there's also like a few people that haven't even posted yet i think

[Datisi]

yeah ok let's see

VOTE: deimos

don't see how deimos as highly scum and from what is skimmed there wasn't so much scumcase on him so, why is jjh deserving of a sheep?

truth is, i was thinking of voting deimos for a bit, but kinda just didn't get around to it, and when i saw there be a vote there, figured it's more useful than the queen vote

as for why, i disliked how when he was asked why i'm one of his top two scumreads, he cited an event from like the very beginning of the game, that is me saying he was townie because he didn't sound like he wanted to kill himself, which he called out as tmi. like, i thought town!deimos probably would've registered at least *something* i'd said since then.

then i started thinking about his presence overall, and realized it's been very... unimpressive, which then made me think back to his "i haven't been enthusiastic yet" which in hindsight lowkey sounds like he's telling on himself

[Datisi]

ircher, can you make one of those fancy percentage read lists again

[Datisi]

i am not impressed with deimos's return

and i dislike his defence(?) of saying that he still thinks i or gamma are the best votes today. like, i already said why i disliked his original sus on me (though i didn't necessarily find him scummy), and uh, yeah, if you're self-proclaimed to be very excited about solving as town, is you not solving a single thing about two slots you sussed at thw very beginning of the game not concerning?

and i think he commented how he can't have the whole playerlist sorted by now or how his reads are more tone/vibe based, which was never my point against him? (if it was gamma's, then /shrug, but.)

[Datisi]

jjh, what do you like about his recent posts (other than "he is posting")

[Datisi]

toog killed koba.

[Datisi]

i assumed someone to crituqe or hard disagree.

???

why would you assume someone would hard disagree to the most basic thing of "keeping track of claims"?

[Datisi]

i genuinely scumread the hydra of pookythemagicalbear and firebringer also known as good luck buddy

[Datisi]

i thought it was about scumreading them in general and not scumreading a specific post?

[Datisi]

we have a town role

GODZILLA

anyone who fears us can't kill us.

fear = scumread

so if you quote this post and say "I scumread this"

your nightkill on us would fail

that's why I'm trying to get everyone to scumread me

so I can be NIGHTKILL IMMUNE FROM EVERYONE

also we town af

good luck buddy is such scum for this scummy fucking post

[Datisi]

I’m still not understanding Gamma’s case at all but reading that made me like Dats alot more.

what is the "that" here that you read?

[Datisi]

But I’m asking if the wagon on me was most likely town, then Gamma if scum, has buddies decided to completely desert him because scum clearly did not try to derail that wagon.

is this really something that can be concluded? what i mean is, a lot of the game is barely playing. scum didn't try to derail the wagon sure, but how many people did even post around that time? like, how many potential scum were even around to do anything?

[Datisi]

@ircher

, do you plan on making another readslist, pls don't igonre me

[Datisi]

oh yeah, i am also not sure if i buy jjh's argument for deimos being town. i'm not sure he appeared to actually truly believe what he was saying, considering he didn't even vote there. jjh, if you can elaborate on why you think deimos seemed so certain about the Weak Argument, that'd be cool, because i did not get that impression at all

[Datisi]

I’m still not understanding Gamma’s case at all but reading that made me like Dats alot more.

what is the "that" here that you read?

2246 that game he referenced. I only briefly skimmed it the first time when you linked it but you sounded very different there.

i was confused on how you started to scumread me shortly after you saw it the first time, but now you're saying that reading that game made you townred me more

[Datisi]

i am on, about to go for my 10pm walk, and i am not in the mood to read wallposts

is there something simpler you wanna talk about

[Datisi]

ydra scumread is still a yes but i have given up on being able to do anything there

i'd say the sheeky slot is my strongest townread, but even that is not very strong, considering i am still null on half the playerlist

[Datisi]

i skimmed the deimos posts and it's one of those posts where i have to actually sit down and type up a big and convoluted answer that nobody actually cares about

[Datisi]

Was there something in particular you liked from Cheeky

once i got over the annoyance with her playetyle and her read on me, i figured there is actual solving behind it, just packed bad

[Datisi]

i am still roaming the dark streets so that will take at least half an hour

also i just found out i passed a report i wrote on monday so at least one good thing in this shitty week

[Datisi]

oh yeah, i am also not sure if i buy jjh's argument for deimos being town. i'm not sure he appeared to actually truly believe what he was saying, considering he didn't even vote there. jjh, if you can elaborate on why you think deimos seemed so certain about the Weak Argument, that'd be cool, because i did not get that impression at all

Did I say Deimos was certain about it? The point is that the bizarre argument was found, believed in, and presented as though it wasn't tinfoil nonsense. Why would scum look for the argument there in the first place? That's the biggest thing, although all three of those things are hurdles for a scum player to replicate for basically no gain since I don't think people other than me tend to acknowledge this as a towntell

so "believe in it" and "be certain about it" are not the same there, right

i don't know why scum would look for an argument there? because they need to fake reads and maybe some scum find it easier to call out such "factual" inconsistencies over doing actual fake analysis?

granted i see deimos's later posts saying that he was on this longer than i thought so an actual responsible citizen of the town would go back and reread, i might do that at some point, maybe not, we'll see

[Datisi]

now, a wall that absolutely nobody will give a shit about

re 2067:

i said something along the lines of "i don't have exp with you, it's not an *actual* meta read". what i meant that i do have the dry information of "deimos is more enthusiastic as town than as scum", but i don't have the nuanced meta on how either of those two actually look. the only thing i was able to use there is my own general idea on how people act when they're (not) enthusiastic and how they fake it; and the general idea said you weren't wishing for death in those intro posts. which is why i'm annoyed that i'm being called out for tmi and "your read should have been the opposite because i wasn't acting enthusiastic there" when i did not see it like that, plain and simple. "arrived to the right conclusion with wrong premises and then got scumread for it" is a pain in the ass. (assuming you are town here, which, the jury is still out.)

excuse me for confusing the two, but like. if you're enjoying the game as town, then i think it's natural to assume you're posting more often and going to want to solve the game, because that's kinda what town does. i do feel you on not enjoying this game as much, i told myself i wans gonna stay away from anything with more than 14 players because i my brain just breaks down in these games, but rc bullied me into joining this so here we are i guess

ya, i generally expect that if someone enjoys the game more as town, that's gonna be visible by them actually playing the game. and i'm not saying your analysis should focus on us. but when you have one (1) scumping on a slot from page whatever, then there's so many other posts, and you ignore them all to say "yeah un that one post was bad lol" it makes you seem like you wanna cling on the scumread, but don't feel like putting in work to actually think about the read or re-evaluate it or whatever, so you're just handwaving everything else.

re 2073:

i have not been paying attention, let me look at the things you linked

okay i looked at it. it does go further than i initially thought and it definitely isn't made up on the spot, but i am still standing behind my argument that some scum finds it easier to point out "inconsistencies" like that rather than do actual fake analysis. which is one of my problems with your slot. if you wanna argue or offer proof that you enjoying the game doesn't always translate into you solving (or having the wim to solve), you can do that.

however, a different argument could be made on whether scum!deimos thought that something like this would actually get people off his back. because i think scum under pressure at least tries to fake something townie sounding, it's rare that someone dumps posts they're aware of being bad on purpose, and deimos doesn't strike me as scum who's likely to do that. of course, this whole jjh/deimos thing could be planned theatre, but... i kind of doubt it.

what are the tl;dr on gamma again? i am kind of pretty skeptical of this wagon, considering a lot of the lurkers are kinda just like, doing absolutely nothing with it. like i figure there's scum between them, and i doubt they'd be like. you know, this. unless literally all scum is in the active players and it truly is town giving zero shits, but in that case we've probably already lost

[Datisi]

i have a post restriction where i can't copy paste my role pm into the thread

[Datisi]

ye ok sure

VOTE: galron

[Datisi]

ye ok sure

VOTE: galron

r we thinking the same thing ?

idk, i saw your post, thought "yeah that looks bad i guess" and decided to vote there as i wasn't feeling my deimos vote anymore, but didn't have anywhere else to go (need to relook at gamma at some point, but i'm assuming the case against him didn't impress me considering i don't even remember most of it rn)

[Datisi]

I don't think you can ISO me and say with intellectual honesty that my play has been characterised by handwaving everyone's content except two early tells from you + Gamma.

good thing that's not what i'm saying. your play has been characterized by handwaving all of the content i and gamma have produced that happened after your pings. as in, it feels like you're not taking anything else we're saying into consideration. i wasn't saying that about literally everyone's content.

[Datisi]

One second you say that I need to analyse you more because so far I only have "scumpings" (I have explicitly emphasised that I believe my tells to be stronger than pings), the next that you actually don't expect my analysis to be centred on you.

one second i'm saying that i expect one of your two strongest scumreads would be based on more than a single post while literally not saying anything about any of my other posts, the next that i don't expect to be the main and only person you do analysis on.

[Datisi]

I don't buy at all that anyone would realistically set the bar that low for distinguishing scum WIM from town WIM.

at the beginning of the game where i am usually scraping the bottom of the barrel in order to have reads that i know i need to keep the game moving? the bar is on the floor.

[Datisi]

i really need to sleep, someone yell at me if i post again.

[Datisi]

did a lightning skim of the game, the only two things i remember is that taly wanted to talk to me (hi) and that jjh had some vaguely nonshit reasons for voting victorine so

VOTE: victorine

properly reading the ~10 pages in a few hours

[Datisi]

re 2194:

at this point it's feeling like you're purposefully taking my words the wrong way. i'm saying i'd expect you to put more time/effort into reading me than you have, but that i also don't expect to take up all of your time/effort.

and no, right now i don't think you're being disingenuous. i'm trying to save you from wasting time sorting me the wrong way.

The problem is where the bar is for getting the

type

of read

i mean, we can spend the next 10 pages arguing about this, but it obviously boils down to "i think it was townie, you think it was scummy".

[Datisi]

That's a lot of posts and not a lot of things happening

i'm trying to use my brain for long enough to catch up on what i missed, and this is pretty close to my thoughts so far

i now remember why i don't play in large games

[Datisi]

No brain cells required. Vote Ircher 2021.

please explain this in the simplest way possible pls

[Datisi]

i need explanation on why i should do that, i'm digging my current vote

also i still feel like ydrasse needs a nice amount of votes but i'm not even gonna pretend to try to push that

[Datisi]

i saw the link, and i would very much like to keep repressing the fact that that game had ever happened, thank you

[Datisi]

i am pretty annoyed at ircher saying he skips over my posts, but i am still not seeing what the scumcase there is

nancy, how is this ircher different than yin and yang? i'm not saying you're wrong, but i genuinely just have no idea where his wagon came from (other than the mystery metacase which i will be ignoring as i have no way of actually seeing it for myself)

[Datisi]

the note that her scumplay oftentimes is doing nothing and waiting for town to say it's her townmeta (i'm kinda taking it at face value that jjh wouldn't lie about it), but mostly that in some posts it seems like she has a post restriction while in others it doesn't, and that she hasn't attempted to show any scumhunting through the pr at all.

[Datisi]

the note that her scumplay oftentimes is doing nothing and waiting for town to say it's her townmeta (i'm kinda taking it at face value that jjh wouldn't lie about it), but mostly that in some posts it seems like she has a post restriction while in others it doesn't, and that she hasn't attempted to show any scumhunting through the pr at all.

why take

jjh

at face value here?

because lying about someone's meta, with other players in the game who are aware of it, is generally a very stupid thing to do?

[Datisi]

taly, am i wrong for townreading your meltdown lol

[Datisi]

to answer your question, i am down for a wagon on gmo

2603 on particular is a post i really dislike, mainly the "wow look this person made a contradiction! only scum makes a contradiction like this one!" when the contradiction itself is like... lol? i don't think it's a genuine thought process to say that someone saying they'll sheep the biggest wagon then actually asking someone about what is happening in the game is scum!indicative

[Datisi]

Oh Dear What Did I Just Walk Into

hell

hi s_s

[Datisi]

That post I referenced was much stronger than anything he posted in that game.

you're gonna have to use actual words because i have no clue what "that" post is supposed to be

also nk15 hasn't posted at all, but judging from the vcs he's not even in the game right now, so who knows really

[Datisi]

u literally agreed with me when i first brought up the explanation.

nah, i agreed when you nakedquoted those posts because they looked like classic lazy scum doing nothing. but your forcing of pointing out a meaningless contradiction sucked.

[Datisi]

Actually GMO is relatively close to my solid townbin

does this have to do with the big post he just made or

[Datisi]

with the exception of ydrasse and dk because i have not heard anything about them either.

just a personal hunch of mine, but i think dk is town.

[Datisi]

with the exception of ydrasse and dk because i have not heard anything about them either.

just a personal hunch of mine, but i think dk is town.

can u give me a reason?

1291 is pretty townie.

[Datisi]

i skimmed this game right after i woke up, and i remember approximately nothing from it

is there anything important that happened

[Datisi]

i want to hear ur thoughts on them and their response.

i just read through their iso but backwards

tonally they're vaguely +town, reads (or lackthereof) don't really impress but his response to a few things sounded annoyed *enough* that i'm fine leaving him alone for now

i'm gonna go make popcorn, will look at clemency after

[Datisi]

to add to the above though, some of his posts in context are... odd? like 20 minutes after he gets one vote he's already resigning himself to his death, and the two townreads (nk15? pan??) are just lmfao?

on one hand i want to say surely scum like, does literally anything else, but also his literal reasoning for townreading nk15 is "scum would be putting some effort into this" and it makes me wonder if he's scum taking the piss there

also re clemency, zero thoughts head empty

[Datisi]

why does nancy (i think? not sure if it was her or cheeky) comment about there being no counterwagon to gamma, but once victorine wagon happened, ircher's appeared out of thin air basically? or am i getting some events mixed. because like, wack.

[Datisi]

does someone wanna sell me on why ircher is an option

i've been saying this for like 3 days now, and the best i got is "mysterious meta case that we will not publicly disclose"

[Datisi]

i wanna be on rc's friends list

[Datisi]

I'm gonna make this post so I can delete it if I miss page top to claim page top

shame

[Datisi]

why am i waking up to 30 new pages

someone tell me if there's anything worth reading there because lol no

[Datisi]

why am i waking up to 30 new pages

someone tell me if there's anything worth reading there because lol no

maybe? gmo did a reaction test on ircher

cool, you can tell me what happened?

[Datisi]

Personally I Think That The Proportionally Most Likely Combination Is Victorine Being: Loyal And GMo Being: A Traitor

I Do Not Have Much Experience With Either But GMo Feels More Like Trying To Reach Out To And Pocket A Loyal Subject Under Pressure Than Saving An Ally

i'm skimming while i have breakfast and this is the first post that i actually like

[Datisi]

Conclusion- A pair of bad actors reading a bad script

this also feels like a good post

i want to say jjh is townie but i have no idea what his scumgame actually is like so i am a but paranoia there

jjh, you said esrlier you townread me, i think? why is that?

[Datisi]

-Why did Yume suddenly start signing every post with M having done that on exactly one other post, along with also having signed as "Big bad wold" and "Red" previously, at a time when GrandpaMo decided to push the agenda that Yume's post restriction was to imitate Mastina?

I know this one!
Mastina was working on a comic a WHILE back about a character called “little red rider” iirc

oh yea also that ^

was there a way for gmo to be aware of this? because i didn't know that. so the tmi idea might actually hold more weight than i first thought

[Datisi]

Or to put it this way: if I guess a player's flavor correctly, I get a reward. Just like in those old 'prize catching games' at carnivals.

I have crumbed mine in a fashion that should be incomprehensible to most

didn't we already have a few claims

[Datisi]

Y U guys post so much

mindmeld, rc town

[Datisi]

ok yeah

Rat

is solid town.

why

[Datisi]

They were clearly present and I think they would've reacted faster if they were town
The subsequent slowposting also I think is more likely from scum trying to figure out how to look authentic (as well as decide on what readslist is strategically best) than town trying to consolidate their final thoughts

the problem with this is that it was such a bad reaction test, coupled with the fact we've already had a dayvig, so i can see ircher not bothering to give reads quickly because lol

though, if he was town who didn't believe it, then why bother actually giving reads at all if you didn't believe it, hmm

i guess it's not that impossible

[Datisi]

ok i gotta go, i'll read the rest later

[Datisi]

i read the remaining 10 pages and i got nothing from them

why did i join a large

[Datisi]

i have reads. you pretending that i don't is a different matter.

[Datisi]

???

i discussed what i wanted to discuss. my vote is on who i want dead.

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gmo, did you know that the red riding hood (or whatever it is) signing makes sense along mastina?

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please no spam

y'all know it's bad when even t3 is like "please no spam"

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-Why did Yume suddenly start signing every post with M having done that on exactly one other post, along with also having signed as "Big bad wold" and "Red" previously, at a time when GrandpaMo decided to push the agenda that Yume's post restriction was to imitate Mastina?

I know this one!
Mastina was working on a comic a WHILE back about a character called “little red rider” iirc

oh yea also that ^

was there a way for gmo to be aware of this? because i didn't know that. so the tmi idea might actually hold more weight than i first thought

i see gmo is ignoring this so i will requote it.

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do i actually have to read any of this or are we just yeeting ircher

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ircher, would you be mad at me if i hammered

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i thought ircher was at y-1?