Anything uPick (Endgame)

[Cheeky Wings]

Are you still suspicious of Taly and why?

Pooky, I’m still waiting on you to answer this please.

[Cheeky Wings]

that was firebringer who SR'd taly

he never talked to me about his taly SR so its probably a meme

maybe he was trying to get taly to omgus SR him back

but he failed and got townread for it instead

lololol

Oh okay, no offense to Fire but I only really trust yours.

*big relief*

I honestly think his getting upset was very town indicative for him.

[Cheeky Wings]

Whichever one of you that was, I think fire

No Pooky. He has excellent reads ftr.

[Cheeky Wings]

Whichever one of you that was, I think fire

No Pooky. He has excellent reads ftr.

He’s singlehandedly the reason we won my tm game. He laid it all out in our discord PT with game quotes and everything why FL was obvscum.

[Cheeky Wings]

Also I've never seen

Fire/Pooky

hyperpost so I'm even more confused on the reads there than on

Sakura

.

Cheeky head

, why is

Datisi

unhelpful and not scum?

Pooky’s locktown for me. Unlike Koba, I’m actually good at reading him.

[Cheeky Wings]

Eh delete the confusion with

Sakura

at the moment. I want to read them at a distance.

pedit

Also I've never seen

Fire/Pooky

hyperpost so I'm even more confused on the reads there than on

Sakura

.

Cheeky head

, why is

Datisi

unhelpful and not scum?

Pooky’s locktown for me. Unlike Koba, I’m actually good at reading him.

The coalition thing made me feel weird and am unsure how much of their posts are gung-ho town or scum theatre. Why locktown?

This is Nancy btw, I’ll let Cheeky answer your question.

1023 and others. Pooky did it to parse Koba. That’s the same reason I was briefly convinced Buddy was scum as well but he is very clearly in his town meta now. He isn’t pushing but very clearly trying to solve.

This is engaged town!Pooky in every game ever. What completely shocked me was how convincing he was a briefly replicating his obvscum meta.

[Cheeky Wings]

Coalition game you mean? Yeah he was flaming obvscum in that.

[Cheeky Wings]

I have submitted a Gamma Ray Burst action. Put on your shittin' pants.

I have absolutely no clue what that is.

[Cheeky Wings]

Wait lol I was talking about

Koba

above

Where did that quote come from

Pooky was scum in one of the coalition games. I guess I was confused by your use of the word “coalition” as opposed to “town block”.

[Cheeky Wings]

Well since people are gonna die, i'm gonna mention that my role is based off dead people that townread me.

Well that will be interesting.

[Cheeky Wings]

I have submitted a Gamma Ray Burst action. Put on your shittin' pants.

ah yes i fucking love when townies random dayvig people without consulting thread about the action! always works out great!!!

(fun fact: every fucking game this has happened to me in has resulted in the action killiong a townie and accelerating a town loss )) stop fucking doing this when you roll a dayvig role particularly when you die as a result!)

Whom ever he targeted, it’s too late for this but you’re probably right I stupidly bombed town in a game.

[Cheeky Wings]

I just hope he didn’t bomb Buddy because Pooky’s our best chance at winning this.

[Cheeky Wings]

ah yes i fucking love when townies random dayvig people without consulting thread about the action! always works out great!!!

No, this is optimal. It will shake things up and give us something to talk about, and it will surprise scum and force them to change their strategy.

Not if he hit town they won’t but if he hits scum then obviously.

[Cheeky Wings]

RC doesn't pickup his outbox reliably, my action is still sitting there. I could tote rescind it. Not sure if I want to though.

It depends who you submitted obviously.

[Cheeky Wings]

I would have liked to consider the events of isekai UPick to determine who would be a good shot but if Toog felt good on something already then more power to them

If he sheeped Taly it would be you.

[Cheeky Wings]

I'm 100% ready to genuflect in forgiveness if I screwed up .

We can still have the discussion Koba wanted in case RC didn’t pick it up. It’s only final if he does.

[Cheeky Wings]

I'm 100% ready to genuflect in forgiveness if I screwed up .

are you going to claim who you chose so they can at least post legacy reads or no?

+1

Yeah, you shouldn’t deprive us of any available info.

[Cheeky Wings]

I’m going to guess Loft but who knows.

[Cheeky Wings]

why

If Datisi’s scum, it’s possible you two could be distancing. You did that with Cakez so . . . You’re also acting way too chill about the bomb. That’s what I did in Stumps when I thought NM would visit me but I was secretly shaking inside.

[Cheeky Wings]

Why is it between us two
I’m not feeling tooo great about my Datisi SR and Deimos pushing me/Datisi as a dichotomy feels kinda yucky as a result

Okay, I think we’ve caught two scum here.

Gamma and Datisi.

[Cheeky Wings]

VOTE: Gamma

[Cheeky Wings]

Why is it between us two
I’m not feeling tooo great about my Datisi SR and Deimos pushing me/Datisi as a dichotomy feels kinda yucky as a result

Okay, I think we’ve caught two scum here.

Gamma and Datisi.

Remember this when I die. This is scum!Gamma distancing.

[Cheeky Wings]

Thanks toog, I hope you bombed Datisi because Gamma just confirmed them as buddies.

[Cheeky Wings]

K, if you guys are going to vote one of them, then vote Datisi, because I did in fact nuke Gamma.

VOTE: Datisi

[Cheeky Wings]

Why is it between us two
I’m not feeling tooo great about my Datisi SR and Deimos pushing me/Datisi as a dichotomy feels kinda yucky as a result

You were hard tunneling that slot, suddenly you walked back on it for no reason. You got caught bussing.

[Cheeky Wings]

I would have liked to consider the events of isekai UPick to determine who would be a good shot but if Toog felt good on something already then more power to them

I would expect he made a choice off his own feelings, there wasn’t enough communication for anything else.

These posts read really fake to me. Koba was very concerned like you’d expect town to be but you were high fiving toog, so it just read like false bravado to me. It was way too over the top.

[Cheeky Wings]

I hard townread datisi
Datisi who do townread. I want to create a town block ignoring this noise

can we just sheep all of Kobe's lockdowns regardless of alignment

Well some of their reads are probably right but I think Pooky nailed it.

[Cheeky Wings]

datisi isnt a village idiot, i appreciate his input in games even if his reads arent good he stabilizes thread mood.

[Cheeky Wings]

the thing is for *reasons* i can see that being a reaction from a town gamma so

yea im sure town!gamma is going to be sad and down rather than telling Tooge he can stick his nuke where the sun don't shine and then dumping his reads into the thread.

Yeah, town!Gamma would be raging at toog. I definitely would.

[Cheeky Wings]

Wait

Toog

, spew reads please?

+1

[Cheeky Wings]

Still relevant I feel

Gamma and Datisi were playing good cop/bad cop on town!Ydrasse. Super obvious.

[Cheeky Wings]

heard a rumor datisi townread me

the rumours are lying to you

why’d you say it in our pt then sir?

i can assure you that was not me

i have the logs why are you lying.......

[Cheeky Wings]

heard a rumor datisi townread me

the rumours are lying to you

why’d you say it in our pt then sir?

i can assure you that was not me

i have the logs why are you lying.......

Wait, what?

uh, not sure what ydrasse is doing, but i am not in any pt's with ydrasse. i thought she was just shitposting.

[Cheeky Wings]

that's whack

only me and firebringer are allowed to play good cop bad cop in this game

It’s a typical scum strategy. One scum hardpushes town and the other hard defends them and pseudo hardpushes their buddy but once he was in danger of being run up, suddenly he totally walks back his Datisi sr.

[Cheeky Wings]

Along with Gamma, I was considering nuking Ydrasse, FirePooky, koba, and Wisdom. I felt Gamma had the most associatives, but I haven't liked any of them this far.

I'm not a fan of FirePooky noise, but I think they are a party hydra. I wouldn't put it past them being town and just fucking off.

I didn't like koba possibly back tracking on the encryptor claim.

I didn't like Ydrasse asking for a day. That usually sets off alarms that they have an ability they really want to get off.

Wisdom is just vibes, nothing substantial.

He’s not Wisdom, he just happens to have a similar avatar. He posted in Noraa’s GTKAS. I don’t really see Wisdom doing that, do you?

I totally believed Titus on that, so I definitely thought something was up with that.

[Cheeky Wings]

I didn't even know Wisdom was in this game

The correct name should be FL for the memes. Remember several months ago when in pretty much every single game, everyone accused some non-FL slot of being FL?

[Cheeky Wings]

I need to actually sleep now

Only good vibes allows a Taly his beauty sleep.

Spoiler:

[Cheeky Wings]

well you are correct that I am town

but I enjoy scumreads more

Teach me to be more like you. Only time I like them is if roll jester.

[Cheeky Wings]

scumreads mean they are thinking of you

which means you are special to them

I can just envision a Hallmark card here.

[Cheeky Wings]

Along with Gamma, I was considering nuking Ydrasse, FirePooky, koba, and Wisdom. I felt Gamma had the most associatives, but I haven't liked any of them this far.

I'm not a fan of FirePooky noise, but I think they are a party hydra. I wouldn't put it past them being town and just fucking off.

I didn't like koba possibly back tracking on the encryptor claim.

I didn't like Ydrasse asking for a day. That usually sets off alarms that they have an ability they really want to get off.

Wisdom is just vibes, nothing substantial.

He’s not Wisdom, he just happens to have a similar avatar. He posted in Noraa’s GTKAS. I don’t really see Wisdom doing that, do you?

I totally believed Titus on that, so I definitely thought something was up with that.

Huh?

I believed you on the mech.

[Cheeky Wings]

then make an opinion on his take about me mistaking the part of my role that i thought was an encryptor instead of trying to pick and choose what you react to. because its a nice easy way to look busy to react to that part and not the actual content part.

1. I don't really care about what tooge said about your encryptor shenanigans
2. I didn't read what tooge said about your encryptor shenigans
3. I don't even know what mistake you made.
4. Lol look busy good joke most of my posts are troll.
5. I'm gonna defend my homeboy tooges when you call him prideful cuz that shit ain't how he rolls

+1

Koba, pot meet kettle? You gave me shit for not exactly being thrilled with the bs scumreads on me, well wtf do you call this then?

[Cheeky Wings]

you know, just as i am about to start townreading nancy, she drops some bullshit "wow gamma and datisi were distancing, it's sUpEr ObViOuS" and sigh

Datisi can you link some recent scumgames?

everything is on my wiki page. except for this game, which ended earlier today and i haven't linked it there yet: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88015

That game you were making tons of fake reads. I guess I’ll have to check your Wiki.

K, ISO’d a few more and you we’re either doing the fake reads thing or you weren’t actually trying to solve.

what does this post mean and how does it connect to this game?

What when did that even happen? I’m calling bs on that. You just want me to retract my read on you and then you will go right back to sr me.

The people who I tr who actually have good reads tr me, so I really don’t need your approval.

I was ISOing your posts from past scumgames to see how they lined up with Pooky’s read on you.

[Cheeky Wings]

then make an opinion on his take about me mistaking the part of my role that i thought was an encryptor instead of trying to pick and choose what you react to. because its a nice easy way to look busy to react to that part and not the actual content part.

1. I don't really care about what tooge said about your encryptor shenanigans
2. I didn't read what tooge said about your encryptor shenigans
3. I don't even know what mistake you made.
4. Lol look busy good joke most of my posts are troll.
5. I'm gonna defend my homeboy tooges when you call him prideful cuz that shit ain't how he rolls

+1

Koba, pot meet kettle? You gave me shit for not exactly being thrilled with the bs scumreads on me, well wtf do you call this then?

My point was not to insult toog but to point out your obvious hypocrisy.

[Cheeky Wings]

you know, just as i am about to start townreading nancy, she drops some bullshit "wow gamma and datisi were distancing, it's sUpEr ObViOuS" and sigh

Datisi can you link some recent scumgames?

everything is on my wiki page. except for this game, which ended earlier today and i haven't linked it there yet: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88015

That game you were making tons of fake reads. I guess I’ll have to check your Wiki.

K, ISO’d a few more and you we’re either doing the fake reads thing or you weren’t actually trying to solve.

what does this post mean and how does it connect to this game?

What when did that even happen? I’m calling bs on that. You just want me to retract my read on you and then you will go right back to sr me.

The people who I tr who actually have good reads tr me, so I really don’t need your approval.

I was ISOing your posts from past scumgames to see how they lined up with Pooky’s read on you.

If anything Datisi, #1282 seems very manipulative. You would have gotten a lot further with Cheeky’s obviously town but wrong”. That probably would have made me reconsider but I don’t change my reads to get tr.

[Cheeky Wings]

Ok so it's like really hard for me to justify still voting PookyBringer after 1073.

One question though
@Good Luck Buddy
Did you determine who it was who gave that argument for town!Ircher which you falsely remembered

me

making?

This is kinda slimy on a gut level.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Also I've never seen

Fire/Pooky

hyperpost so I'm even more confused on the reads there than on

Sakura

.

Cheeky head

, why is

Datisi

unhelpful and not scum?

Datisi tone is town. Their exasperation with Nancy is ++Town in particular.
I think it's mostly town posting in the game so far which is good because scum will find it hard to find a way in without it looking awkward. We can suck the wim from them and leave them dry, empty and wanting.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

.......Toog seriously wtf. You are the shiniest knob.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Gamma your anime spam says you're flipping redder than my cheeks for defending your scumbutt.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

What part of Koba/Taly are my strongest townreads did I not make clear?! Ugh.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

There were legitimately 19 better targets. Yeah I'm still not over it.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

T3 town. You can replace koba :/
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

You would have gotten a lot further with Cheeky’s obviously town but wrong

guess what? i know this. i know this because you do the same bullshit every single game. you yell and scream at anyone who dares to suggest you're not town. it's extremely easy to asskiss you and get you to leave me alone. you know why i didn't do that? because i don't give a fuck about actually pocketing you.

now, you're free to elaborate on what games did you read, how they align with my play here, and why it made you do a 180 on me.

I trust locktown Pooky, duh.

[Cheeky Wings]

Also I've never seen

Fire/Pooky

hyperpost so I'm even more confused on the reads there than on

Sakura

.

Cheeky head

, why is

Datisi

unhelpful and not scum?

Datisi tone is town. Their exasperation with Nancy is ++Town in particular.
I think it's mostly town posting in the game so far which is good because scum will find it hard to find a way in without it looking awkward. We can suck the wim from them and leave them dry, empty and wanting.
~C

Are we reading the same game?

[Cheeky Wings]

In an explosion of cosmic proportions, Toogeloo obliterates DkKoba!

DkKoba was

XrCyclone

.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome, DkKoba. You are XrCyclone, Obvious Cheater. You are a Helper-Requesting Cheater.

I claim random informed role that I have no way of knowing about!

Thought (Helper-Requesting): Each night you may target a player not in the game, inviting them to be able to discuss the game with you.
Cheater! (Cheater): You may discuss the game during days and nights with every player who accepted your invitation until the end of the game.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Toogeloo was

Gamma Ray Burst

.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome, Toogeloo. You are Gamma Ray Burst, Strongman Exploder

If you've seen one gamma-ray burst, you've seen one gamma-ray burst!

Supernova (Strongman Exploder): Once per game during the day you may target a player and explode both of you, targeting both of you with a strongman kill.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Ordinarily protocol is to reset the votecount, but I will not bother since no one is close to any lim thresholds.

What? Why? You should have listened to Pooky.

[Cheeky Wings]

Wow I guess Toog also felt like Koba’s reaction to being pressured by a soon-to-be-dead town person sucked?

Yeah, scum wouldn’t be antagonistic to a bomb slot that could change their mind but I’m still shocked that happened. Scum!Koba would have tried to pocket toog not piss him off like that.

[Cheeky Wings]

Gamma Emerald (5): Taly, Datisi, Ydrasse, Deimos27, Good Luck Buddy
Datisi (2): Gamma Emerald, Cheeky Wings
Victorine (2): Titus, Sakura Hana
Good Luck Buddy (1): T3
Cheeky Wings (1): Jjh927
Loftwing (1): Ratmans
Sakura Hana (1): Victorine

Welcome to

Taly's

low effort post on why the wagon he leads is better than any other

The most recent point against

Datisi

is an associative tell to

GAMMA

.

Almost certain

Victorine

has a posting restriction.

GLB

- well, I like them.

CheekyWings

is being voted because

Nancy

tilted at being scumread which she does almost every game regardless of alignment

LOFTWING

CLAIMED MILLER. Do not touch this D1.

Could actually go for

Sakura

lim but not stepping on my towneeads this early.

So yeah. Join

Taly

and then he gets all the backlash that you won't.

I don’t really get why Sakura is scum. I’m not opposed to Gamma but Datisi is flaming obvscum and Cheeky is just flat out wrong but I’ll vote either.

[Cheeky Wings]

Gamma your anime spam says you're flipping redder than my cheeks for defending your scumbutt.
~C

Oh you had me seriously worried. Thank God.

[Cheeky Wings]

you know, just as i am about to start townreading nancy, she drops some bullshit "wow gamma and datisi were distancing, it's sUpEr ObViOuS" and sigh

Datisi can you link some recent scumgames?

everything is on my wiki page. except for this game, which ended earlier today and i haven't linked it there yet: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88015

That game you were making tons of fake reads. I guess I’ll have to check your Wiki.

K, ISO’d a few more and you we’re either doing the fake reads thing or you weren’t actually trying to solve.

what does this post mean and how does it connect to this game?

Oh no was koba wrong about you

+1

Yep, Pooky called it. They get easily pocketed by scumbags.

[Cheeky Wings]

T3 town. You can replace koba :/
~C

+1

T3 is one of those slots that usually reads me correctly.

[Cheeky Wings]

This is off the charts.
The only town move is to lim one of the hydras.

VOTE: GLB

koba town <- this is a note to myself

Bad vote, this is 100% town.

[Cheeky Wings]

if you're not voting gamma what are you doing lol.

his reaction to Tooge saying "i'm going to nuke you"

was to start lolcatting and posting random anime gifs

True but Datisi is off the charts scummy but I guess we can get him next time.

VOTE: Gamma

[Cheeky Wings]

Anyway
VOTE: Queen let’s bring someone new into the light, eh?
As for me, I should hopefully be obvtown by Day 3 if you chumps don’t elim me before then.

I’m not voting Queen today, it’s either you or Datisi.

You voting Queen just solidifies it for me that Dats is your buddy.

[Cheeky Wings]

VOTE: cheeky wings

i'm parking here until this matter gets resolved. she wasn't scumreading me before, then suddenly she's purely sheeping pooky on me, *and* calling me obvscum. nah, that doesn't work like that.

Datisi just scumclaimed.

He knows I always trust locktown!Pooky because I did the exact same thing in Yin and Yang.

I’m down for Gamma eventhough Datisi is far more likely to kill me tonight.

[Cheeky Wings]

VOTE: cheeky wings

sure, sounds cool

Did you get a red role pm too Gypyx?

[Cheeky Wings]

stop fucking misrepping me. it's not about you trusting pooky. it's about you both trusting pooky *and* calling me obvscum despite not scumreading me previously. it's either one or the other.

Gamma like spewed you as a buddy. Pooky srs you and your post lqst night about almost sr me was manipulative af.

I will flip town but you obviously already know that.

[Cheeky Wings]

Didn't know Queen was in this game.

Daitisi scum is an interesting take but I'll take an opportunity presented to me.
VOTE: CheekyWings

One of Gypyx/rat is Datisi’s buddy. Remember this when I flip.

[Cheeky Wings]

COME ON WE NEED 11 VOTES LET'S GOOOOOOO

If you’re not his buddy you’re an idiot because I 100% am flipping town here. And you obviously are good with that.

[Cheeky Wings]

Datisi also knows this isn’t my scum meta, so he proved he’s scum here.

[Cheeky Wings]

lol? what part of this game am i apaprently suppose to know is outside your scum meta?

You were in micro. So you know the only reason I’d powerwolf as scum was if I had to stop a town slot from flipping like I did with Dstjr and Pooky. So town!you would know I’m town and wrong.

[Cheeky Wings]

COME ON WE NEED 11 VOTES LET'S GOOOOOOO

If you’re not his buddy you’re an idiot because I 100% am flipping town here. And you obviously are good with that.

if you're 100% town tbh i'd like to know how, i'll even vote whoever you want if i'm convinced

pedit : for non self-meta reasons ofc

I’m okay with either Gamma or Datisi. I’m on Gamma because he is clearly trying to protect Dats and is voting an nia lurker instead.

You can totally trust Buddy/T3/Taly here.

[Cheeky Wings]

You were in micro.

yes.

So you know the only reason I’d powerwolf as scum was if I had to stop a town slot from flipping like I did with Dstjr and Pooky.

w h a t

how in the ever loving fuck am i supposed to know this? please explain to me how, by playing in that one scumgame of yours, am i supposed to magically know that what you did there (powerwolfing to stop a town slot from flipping) is the only ever reason you would *ever* powerwolf?

Because it’s literally the only time I’ve done it. In my scumgames I’ve pushed town but not not like I did with Djstr. I never would have done that if I didn’t need to protect duckling because we couldn’t let town!Pooky be flipped in that.

[Cheeky Wings]

Anyway
VOTE: Queen let’s bring someone new into the light, eh?
As for me, I should hopefully be obvtown by Day 3 if you chumps don’t elim me before then.

I’m not voting Queen today, it’s either you or Datisi.

You voting Queen just solidifies it for me that Dats is your buddy.

How much attention did you pay to my tm game?

Which one were you in?

I also don’t understand why you’re voting an nai lurker?

[Cheeky Wings]

This is off the charts.
The only town move is to lim one of the hydras.

VOTE: GLB

koba town <- this is a note to myself

Nah. Good Luck Buddy may be a hyperposter, but we should just wait for them to get vig shot.

Anyway
VOTE: Queen let’s bring someone new into the light, eh?
As for me, I should hopefully be obvtown by Day 3 if you chumps don’t elim me before then.

Ah yes, vote the low hanging fruit when you need a distractor. Seriously though, what do you expect that vote to accomplish?

One of Gypyx/rat is Datisi’s buddy. Remember this when I flip.

I agree rat's and Gypyx's votes are poor because they are detracting from Gamma, but I don't really read them as an associative tell to Datisi.

rat’s voted two obvtown now.

Here’s the thing. Datisi was in Yin and Yang and knows I really trust obvtown!Pooky’s reads and he’s sr both Gamma and Datisi. Also he has been shading me all game then out of the blue claimed an almost bs tr on me once I voted him and when his obvious attempts to manipulate me to unvote him failed, he tried to intimidate me by trying to run me up. I’m not intimidated because I know what I will flip.

Then there’s also his gross Ydra push as well for pretty much no reason and it looked to me like Gamma/Datisi were playing good cop/bad cop on that slot.

[Cheeky Wings]

This is off the charts.
The only town move is to lim one of the hydras.

VOTE: GLB

koba town <- this is a note to myself

Nah. Good Luck Buddy may be a hyperposter, but we should just wait for them to get vig shot.

Vig already fucked it up.

Buddy’s locktown here. You want to kill two townies now? *smdh*

[Cheeky Wings]

Cheeky
Buddy
T3
Taly
Titus
Diemos
Yydra

Are my top town.

[Cheeky Wings]

Why is it between us two
I’m not feeling tooo great about my Datisi SR and Deimos pushing me/Datisi as a dichotomy feels kinda yucky as a result

This is why I think Gamma/Dats are buddies because Gamma was hard tunnelling Dats over Ydrasse push and made this post after toog claimed he was bombing him.

[Cheeky Wings]

GLB is anti-town regardless of alignment.
So are you

Based on what?

Because we’re voting slots we strongly sr?

[Cheeky Wings]

It sucks that two town slots got yeeted already and neither of them were either of you,
but it's a risk I'm willing to take.

They didn’t get yeeted. toog was a bomb and egregiously misread Koba AtE.

You’re either scum or have the shittiest reads in any mafia game ever.

[Cheeky Wings]

Anyway
VOTE: Queen let’s bring someone new into the light, eh?
As for me, I should hopefully be obvtown by Day 3 if you chumps don’t elim me before then.

I’m not voting Queen today, it’s either you or Datisi.

You voting Queen just solidifies it for me that Dats is your buddy.

How much attention did you pay to my tm game?

Which one were you in?

I also don’t understand why you’re voting an nai lurker?

Mafiasunny 2 impeachment
And I don’t feel like Datisi is worth my time rn, I honestly think Deimos is actually scum potentially for being p much the first to force the Gamma/Datisi dichotomy but I’m trying to get other slots to contribute, so that’s why I’m voting a lurker slot

But what’s the point of yeeting an nai lurker? We have no idea what her alignment is because she has barely posted. You don’t vote out lurkers early because you have no basis to have any kind of read on them.

[Cheeky Wings]

I want anyone who wants to keep CW alive right now to seriously reconsider.

You mean town with good reads?

[Cheeky Wings]

I want anyone who wants to keep CW alive right now to seriously reconsider.

do u sr them or just dislike their play atm

He wants to kill two bleeding obvtown slots.

[Cheeky Wings]

Why is it between us two
I’m not feeling tooo great about my Datisi SR and Deimos pushing me/Datisi as a dichotomy feels kinda yucky as a result

This is why I think Gamma/Dats are buddies because Gamma was hard tunnelling Dats over Ydrasse push and made this post after toog claimed he was bombing him.

lmfao
if gamma thought he was about to die, in the middle of shitpushing his own partner, WHY would he suddenly ease up the pressure on me? like, the only logical move there is to keep screaming how i'm scum because it makes us unaligned.

and i see no response to the "you've seen me powerwolf in the only scumgame of mine you've played in, therefore you should know that that is the only time i have ever powerwolfed and that i don't do it as scum any other time".

He was hardpushing you for your Ydra push, then why is he suddenly backing off on you? Explain that. Also why aren’t you asking Pooky and Taly this or you just see me as an easier target?

[Cheeky Wings]

I want anyone who wants to keep CW alive right now to seriously reconsider.

do u sr them or just dislike their play atm

He wants to kill two bleeding obvtown slots.

?

Us and Buddy

[Cheeky Wings]

I want anyone who wants to keep CW alive right now to seriously reconsider.

does this look like scum anger to you?

Yes

I want anyone who wants to keep CW alive right now to seriously reconsider.

do u sr them or just dislike their play atm

It started with the latter but kind of both now really. That probably has to do with the fact that I'm actually around to read their posts.
I find their style of play right now extremely unhelpful to town, even more so than GLB at this point.

In a world where you’re actually town here - doubt - read any of my scumgames if you think this is how I ever play as scum.

My main is Nancy Drew 39.

[Cheeky Wings]

I want anyone who wants to keep CW alive right now to seriously reconsider.

does this look like scum anger to you?

Yes

I want anyone who wants to keep CW alive right now to seriously reconsider.

do u sr them or just dislike their play atm

It started with the latter but kind of both now really. That probably has to do with the fact that I'm actually around to read their posts.
I find their style of play right now extremely unhelpful to town, even more so than GLB at this point.

In a world where you’re actually town here - doubt - read any of my scumgames if you think this is how I ever play as scum.

My main is Nancy Drew 39.

You think I'm gonna read your meta when you won't even read my 30-post iso?

You’re the one hellbent on running up obvtown.

[Cheeky Wings]

The funniest thing though is that actually I was just lazily voting the name that was third on the Ircher wagon because I didn't think any sane townie would follow Gamma's vote there, and hadn't actually clocked that Nancy was in that slot when I was voting. I mainly decided to stick with it because of the overreaction

We were 20 pages in- I'm not gonna have a super duper 100% guaranteed or-your-money-back level scumread on anyone, and Nancy treating it like one is exactly the sort of paranoia I saw in animals upick 2

Nancy’s reaction here was completely different to in townstumps tho
She spent a lot of time convincing you that you had to be wrong, here she immediately went for the jugular and isn’t trying to convince you of much
You not seeing that already makes me think you might actually be scum here

rat here’s a post for you, assuming you’re town and don’t want to gamethrow.

[Cheeky Wings]

Yeah yeah I've heard it all before.

Glad you don’t gaf then.

[Cheeky Wings]

I want anyone who wants to keep CW alive right now to seriously reconsider.

does this look like scum anger to you?

Yes

oh and ummm why, like at worst, it's a personality thing in my eyes

Because in my eyes it's causing unnecessary chaos, chaos is beneficial to scum, etc. The non-stop hyperposting is also inherently anti-town, especially in conjuction with the existence of another hyperposter.
And this thunderdoming shit is ridiculous. Which is why I don't mind flipping Datisi if CW flips town.

What I'm getting at is how in the world are we going to sort anybody in this madness?

I WILL flip town but Datisi probably won’t but I’m not even voting him, I’m voting Gamma, so what are you even on about?

[Cheeky Wings]

Yeah yeah I've heard it all before.

Glad you don’t gaf then.

Have you read my iso yet?

Why do you need me to read your iso? I’m neither voting or pushing you? You are the one with the shitty vote here, not me.

[Cheeky Wings]

Because in my eyes it's causing unnecessary chaos, chaos is beneficial to scum, etc. The non-stop hyperposting is also inherently anti-town, especially in conjuction with the existence of another hyperposter.
And this thunderdoming shit is ridiculous. Which is why I don't mind flipping Datisi if CW flips town.

What I'm getting at is how in the world are we going to sort anybody in this madness?

yeah it's anti-town, but Nancy (i assume that's nancy) plays like that from what i've heard sooo idk

still keeping my vote, but i'd like someone with more knowledge to chime in

pedit;: i think you really need to take a step back from this game, like please, do it to allow for other disucssions to pop up at least

If you’re town and you think I’m also town, you should probably unvote me. You can always revote me later if
you’re not yet convinced.

Read Stumps where I was Mia and Maya Fey or FFIV where I was Qrow and Raven and you will be.

[Cheeky Wings]

Oh I didn't just mean the current madness, but the 40-ish pages of madness we got going on. The latter is the majority of what I meant.

But yeah I am, I'm gonna come back when there's people around to convince to vote CW.

Fortunately those people actually don’t have ubershitty reads and won’t want to lim bleeding obvtown.

[Cheeky Wings]

You Have Strange Searches On Your Computer Datisi

Btw, I have no clue wtf this even means.

[Cheeky Wings]

question to anyone

except

for nancy: has she ever done the "omfg i am so blazingly obvtown you're a fucking moron for even breathing wrong my way" thing as scum?

I’ll save you the effort. I might have but not anywhere to this extent. It’s the intensity and sheer number of times I do this is the reason I’m town here.

[Cheeky Wings]

I don’t solve like this as scum, I don’t do any number of what I’ve done here as scum. Metadive me and it’s glaringly obvious this is my obvtown game here. This isn’t how I play scum and if Taly who has been fooled by me in a past game knows this, you should as well.

Also Pooky solved Yin and Yang and he locktowned me, so that in itself should be more than enough for you.

[Cheeky Wings]

Someone haveth died!

Aren’t you reading anything?

Toog bombed Koba.

[Cheeky Wings]

question to anyone

except

for nancy: has she ever done the "omfg i am so blazingly obvtown you're a fucking moron for even breathing wrong my way" thing as scum?

Also I’m not lying and I’d hardclaim if I actually needed to but I don’t really understand my role pm, so if it comes down to it, I hope Cheeky understands exactly what we are.

[Cheeky Wings]

Hi guys, just gonna update you on the fact that I havent read anything since my last post since i've been busy due to work and im not sure when ill have time to post meaningfully again.
My role did react to Koba, so I'm starting to feel like RC just decided to troll me with my role (or the reviewer), as I see no way I'm ever getting to use my role, I'm probably gonna full claim next chance I get, at least motivating scum to NK me might be better than what is happening right now.

I believe this. Did you ever read Labrynth? He gave Arc this extremely antitown role. So that’s why I didn’t take too much stock in you not liking your role.

[Cheeky Wings]

there's a reason why i asked everyone except you about your meta.

pedit: @nancy
also i'm mad again for koba being bombed
there are ten bajilion lurkers why you gotta bomb koba

I’m aware but I wanted to be totally transparent and not lie.

[Cheeky Wings]

sakura, do you want me to townread you

What is the point of this question? No one is going to answer “no” to this?

[Cheeky Wings]

sakura, do you want me to townread you

What is the point of this question? No one is going to answer “no” to this?

her role interacts with people that townread her. i'm feeling brave enough to risk getting targeted by whatever her role does.

Maybe I’m wrong on you?

But why are you tr Gamma and voting an nai lurker slot?

[Cheeky Wings]

sakura, do you want me to townread you

What is the point of this question? No one is going to answer “no” to this?

her role interacts with people that townread her. i'm feeling brave enough to risk getting targeted by whatever her role does.

Maybe I’m wrong on you?

But why are you tr Gamma and voting an nai lurker slot?

you and datisi have oil and water playstyles so you should look elsewhere imo

Any suggestions?

Does anyone know Queen meta because I have no idea if this is ai for her or not?

[Cheeky Wings]

in the game i modded, queen seemed to be at least like, doing something and giving out reads. i don't think her roleplaying means it's a troll slot.

I just ISO’d her in a recent game and she caught all the scum, so if she towns it up, she could be valuable to keep around no?

Yeah, same one.

It’s possible but this is an RC game and people wanted to kill Vecna, so she could be post restricted for all we know.

[Cheeky Wings]

now you won’t catch me saying this often but it’s kind of infuriating koba died bc they had takes i agreed w for once...

Toog should have realized that scum!Koba wouldn’t have gone out of their way to piss them off like that. I still think Gamma’s trajectory on Dats is strange but I might have been reaching with my buddy theory. It definitely didn’t make any sense though that Gamma pushed Dats that hard, then suddenly backtracked on that without giving much of a reason.

If not Gamma, I’m still sussing of Victorine and yes jjh but when Gamma thought he was dying, he just kept posting gifs rather than giving reads so that doesn’t look great.

[Cheeky Wings]

i think he made a gross post when i voted him

what post are you thinking of here? i scanned through his iso a bit, but i couldn't find it

pedit: yeah, if she does. she's not doing that right now.

Yeah, she voted both Pooky and Gamma. I almost repped into that game because I wanted the thrill of murdering Pooky but unfortunately Ythan beat me to it. :/

[Cheeky Wings]

You think I'm gonna read your meta when you won't even read my 30-post iso?

your entire iso is basically useless garbage lol

like i dont think you've done a single useful thing all game

Oh he has, he wants to convince the rest of the playerlist to run up obvtown but I’m the one being “antitown” here.

[Cheeky Wings]

like sure you can whine about me/cw going 300 posts or w/e but at least we r sorting, pushing and doing shit that is trying to advance the game. wtf u r even doing ratman? just whining and complaining and saying we should be PLed for posting? lol

+1

If that slot isn’t scum, it’s 100% scumsiding.

[Cheeky Wings]

Look, if we're going to massclaim, we should do it in some predesignated order. Have all the scummy slots (i.e.: rat, gamma) go first then everyone else.

So we’re just gonna repeat the second RC UPick I played, huh
Already said I’m not claiming and I stand by that, so if that makes you want to yeet me, then this is all I can say.

I have no idea what this means, are you crumbing inventor or something?

[Cheeky Wings]

UNVOTE:

for now.

[Cheeky Wings]

now you won’t catch me saying this often but it’s kind of infuriating koba died bc they had takes i agreed w for once...

Toog should have realized that scum!Koba wouldn’t have gone out of their way to piss them off like that. I still think Gamma’s trajectory on Dats is strange but I might have been reaching with my buddy theory. It definitely didn’t make any sense though that Gamma pushed Dats that hard, then suddenly backtracked on that without giving much of a reason.

If not Gamma, I’m still sussing of Victorine and yes jjh but when Gamma thought he was dying, he just kept posting gifs rather than giving reads so that doesn’t look great.

I already said my reads were in my ISO, if you weren’t willing to read for them then piss off. I don’t do read lists just because people are too fucking self-absorbed or w/e to actually pay attention to the natural trickle of reads I do put out.

And tbc the second sentence isn’t necessarily directed at you but it’s a consistent problem that people ask for me to give reads when I actually have been giving them, they’re just not willing to fucking look.

This sounds like town!Gamma. He sounds very genuine.

[Cheeky Wings]

Yeah I checked the activity overview and if ratmans flips scum GLB and CW are basically IC.

What if he’s just shitty town?

[Cheeky Wings]

I am fine with limming ratman instead here.

What I’m thinking is if he’s scum, he obviously knows I’m going to flip town and he’ll definitely be following me, so why does he do that?

I mean it’s possible he’s suicidal scum here but is he that terrible a scumplayer?

[Cheeky Wings]

This is off the charts.
The only town move is to lim one of the hydras.

VOTE: GLB

koba town <- this is a note to myself

Otoh, wanting to kill hydras is something I’ve seen scum do, so that looks kind’ve gross.

But he then followed it up with a correct tr.

[Cheeky Wings]

Only thing I got from past few pages is more suspicion on

Ircher

but I don't feel like pursuing it.

If Ircher’s scum then I might be right about jjh, since his initial reason for voting us was my Ircher vote.

[Cheeky Wings]

Yeah I checked the activity overview and if ratmans flips scum GLB and CW are basically IC.

What if he’s just shitty town?

I still consider the both of you probtown regardless of ratmans alignment but his scum motive here would obviously be trying to convince folks to run their town leaders into the ground, I would think it very advantageous if I was able to spend one night phase culling the people driving the game instead of two.

This is definitely town!Gamma here. Scum!him would have already jumped on this.

[Cheeky Wings]

GLB and CW both have 300+ posts, you’re not even in competition with them rn

HURT: GAMMA EMERALD

Why is that post scummy?

[Cheeky Wings]

Yeah I checked the activity overview and if ratmans flips scum GLB and CW are basically IC.

What if he’s just shitty town?

I still consider the both of you probtown regardless of ratmans alignment but his scum motive here would obviously be trying to convince folks to run their town leaders into the ground, I would think it very advantageous if I was able to spend one night phase culling the people driving the game instead of two.

This is definitely town!Gamma here. Scum!him would have already jumped on this.

No I don't see it sorry

I have rolled scum with him multiple times and he can’t fake being this genuine. I can link Overkill 2 for you how he fake raged at being pushed. I also have oog reasons for thinking he could be town here.

[Cheeky Wings]

He also faked some bs cop role in another game. Him refusing to claim sounds town indicative to me. He is pretty good at coming up with bs fakeclaims and I can tell you from Undertale, that scum probably has them. They also had them in the other RC uPick I was in.

[Cheeky Wings]

I Am Here To Be Anything I Want And No One Can Stop Me

You Have Strange Searches On Your Computer Datisi

You Have Strange Searches On Your Computer Datisi

I Have Successfully Rebooted

This is obviously a troll slot; you aren't going to get anything useful out of pressuring them.

No. I played with her before, she was actually contributing then, and a significant thorn in my side.

Taly, I can read Gamma. He sounds off or really fake as scum. He also isn’t trying to control the game. Simply put, he’s not invested enough to be scum here.

[Cheeky Wings]

Anyway
VOTE: Queen let’s bring someone new into the light, eh?
As for me, I should hopefully be obvtown by Day 3 if you chumps don’t elim me before then.

I’m not voting Queen today, it’s either you or Datisi.

You voting Queen just solidifies it for me that Dats is your buddy.

How much attention did you pay to my tm game?

Which one were you in?

I also don’t understand why you’re voting an nai lurker?

Mafiasunny 2 impeachment
And I don’t feel like Datisi is worth my time rn, I honestly think Deimos is actually scum potentially for being p much the first to force the Gamma/Datisi dichotomy but I’m trying to get other slots to contribute, so that’s why I’m voting a lurker slot

He also has a logical reason for his actions. Contrast to FFIV where he voted Dwelee for crumbing, which was clearly a reason to locktown that slot. Hence, his vote made absolutely no sense.

[Cheeky Wings]

He has genuine thought progression and his tone is genuine.

[Cheeky Wings]

RECRUITMENT FOR

FIRE

NATION

IS NOW OPEN!!!!!

IF YOU WANT TO SIGN UP PLEASE FILL OUT THIS SHORT FORM

1. How fucking town are you? (scum not allowed to lie on this question)

2. What scum hunting skills do you bring to the table? (Need at least one verified scumread)

3. Will you pledge your vote to

FIRE

NATION

regardless of any doubt or fear you might have?

4. If Toogeloo tried to shoot Beloved Leader PookyBringer with a Deathray, would you gladly jump in front ?

5. Are you prepared to go HARD this game?

6. Do you scumread Pooky? (The answer to this should always be YES)

I’m pretty towny already
Idk what “verified scumread” means but you saw my boss PoE in radio buzz, I got SKILLS.
Don’t go after a hard TR of mine, and my vote is yours
Sure ig
I do not

plan

to go hard but pretty much all my solid towngames have me not trying to be a hero and I get pulled in anyway, something about great people being called to greatness lol. So the answer to “am I

prepared

to go hard” is “yes, but I don’t wanna”
Sorry pookster, I’m just that good you’re already obvtown for me

Re-reading his ISO, it’s just really townie. I didn’t like the whole Datisi being threatened by Ydra thing but he has made posts like that as town but you can tell from reading his ISO that he’s really thinking about the game.

[Cheeky Wings]

That Dwlee vote was technically driven by logic but it was also very much scum-driven logic

Well if a slot crumbs a flavour that confitowns them, it’s a scumclaim. Had I been town in that, I would have never stopped tunnelling you.

[Cheeky Wings]

Ok im here for a lil bit, so from what I know toog TR me and Koba didnt.

sakura, do you want me to townread you

What is the point of this question? No one is going to answer “no” to this?

her role interacts with people that townread her. i'm feeling brave enough to risk getting targeted by whatever her role does.

Uh, i'm not sure what to make of this since if you read my posts you'd know that nothing would even happen to you... at least before you're already dead so nothing:

Well since people are gonna die, i'm gonna mention that my role is based off dead people that townread me.

Before I full claim im just gonna mention that my strongest ability requires 13 dead town players that townread me (12 left now), this basically means that out of 17 players 13 need to be dead and also townread me while also by the time that happens i need to be alive... which is... a pretty though task.
If you ask me... I have literally no idea how to play this role at all. And considering the difficulty of even reaching that far while alive and being townread well I guess it is rewarded with a pretty strong ability, but I guess it's something I'll never be able to use.

I guess you’d need to be close to elo then. Our role isn’t insane, I’m just not really sure how to explain it. In my previous RC uPick my flavour was barrel of claustrophobic flying monkeys and my role was supersaint bomb. I kept trying to get NK’d but was never obvtown enough for that to happen, so it never wound up getting used.

[Cheeky Wings]

So my flavor is Sanae Kochiya.
I gather faith everytime a townie dies they can choose to pray for me, and at certain tresholds different things happen.
At 3 faith I become loved for the rest of the game except on XLo
At 5 faith I get a 1S parity cop
At 7 faith I get a Triple Unstoppable Role cop
At 10 faith I get a 2S disloyal vig shots
At 13 faith I can leave the game and the mod will tell me the full scum team and I can strongman vig one of them.

Now with this im pretty sure scum will kill me... specially before the 10 faith treshold, but it's better than having to figure out how to use this role and avoid the NK at the same time.

Yeah 25 disloyal vig shots, it’s certain. The dilemma is you need to be tr to use it but being tr will also lead to your death. I wish you hadn’t claimed because you could singlehandedly have decimated all the scum. Any protectives need to be on you.

[Cheeky Wings]

it only now occurred to me this could theoretically be a scum role that gets more powerful if people townread her. oh well.

It sounds protown to me. In my previous RC uPick, Mastina had an obvscum role: a role that only killed town in duels.

[Cheeky Wings]

that's 2S not 25.
I guess i should have typed 2 disloyal vig shots instead of abreviating 2 shot to 2S and then putting shots anyway.

Oh

Yeah 25 really didn’t make a lot of sense. That’s enough for you to be on loan in multiple games.

[Cheeky Wings]

Oh goddamnit why did koba get killed

toog bombed them.

[Cheeky Wings]

I see Gamma expecting death and posting all those anime gifs rather than reads,

particularly starting with a gif of the character he was scum as when he replaced into my recent upick

, and I honestly expect a gamma scumflip

But why would he post that knowing you would recognize it? He’s enough of an experienced player to know toog could still change his mind.

[Cheeky Wings]

JJh best player. sheep forever

He sr me initially, so no.

[Cheeky Wings]

...i mean people can make mistakes and he probably thought it was serious because there was a wagon on him

i don’t get why ur clearing him tbqh

Because his ISO screams town!Gamma to me. Does he sound anything to you like FFIV here?

[Cheeky Wings]

JJh best player. sheep forever

He sr me initially, so no.

i think the ungodly amount of entitlement you have this game is towny for you but a comment like this is really self-centric given it’s a day 1 and isn’t going to help on the long run so mayhaps chill a bit

Well, I think it’s a logical response to that, don’t you?

I am chill now, I was upset yesterday when I was getting sr based off of reactions to getting scumread.

[Cheeky Wings]

JJh best player. sheep forever

He sr me initially, so no.

Don't take it personally. Pressure is used to place people. I lazily voted you because of the Ircher vote without acknowledging that your hydra included you and decided to keep pressure on because why not?

Mafia is not a game of static reads and read accuracy is about being right at the end, not right at the start. Being right at the start is luck.

Yeah It’s just the first time you’ve ever misread me. I guess it’s possible he scumclaimed with that gif. It’s just such a stupid thing to do if he’s scum but I don’t really have any explanation for why he’d do that. If it was twilight and he flipped obviously but you could have potentially been in the thread and guaranteed he’d be the one to be bombed not Koba but I don’t have an explanation for why town!Gamma posts that gif either.

[Cheeky Wings]

Just got to this post

question to anyone

except

for nancy: has she ever done the "omfg i am so blazingly obvtown you're a fucking moron for even breathing wrong my way" thing as scum?

Yes. Go find my post where I link every game I've played with Nancy that I could find

I already said that was nia but I don’t do it to the same extent, intensity, conviction or frequency that I do as town. If you’re really good at reading me, you can tell the conviction when I’m scum is false.

[Cheeky Wings]

Probably worthwhile for comparison because if you look at the continued interactions with me which I said I wasn't interested in but actually really was, you need to determine whether it is a desperate attempt to get me to stop scumreading her or if she is actually genuinely annoyed at me for scumreading her. It's the latter in this case

Okay, you’ve redeemed yourself then but I was really pissed off at people jumping on me all over for that. And rat the super genious scumhunter that would give Sherlock Holmes a run for his money - NOT - was doing his damndest to get me run up today.

[Cheeky Wings]

the memory is deepset enough in my brain that I'm not handwaving it as a fake memory from sleep deprivation/alcohol abuse and possibly some scum role that can delete posts in thread

Which posts?

[Cheeky Wings]

So my flavor is Sanae Kochiya.
I gather faith everytime a townie dies they can choose to pray for me, and at certain tresholds different things happen.
At 3 faith I become loved for the rest of the game except on XLo
At 5 faith I get a 1S parity cop
At 7 faith I get a Triple Unstoppable Role cop
At 10 faith I get a 2S disloyal vig shots
At 13 faith I can leave the game and the mod will tell me the full scum team and I can strongman vig one of them.

Now with this im pretty sure scum will kill me... specially before the 10 faith treshold, but it's better than having to figure out how to use this role and avoid the NK at the same time.

at least the sanae claim is probably town this game

Gamma why did you post that scum gif?

[Cheeky Wings]

I see Gamma expecting death and posting all those anime gifs rather than reads,

particularly starting with a gif of the character he was scum as when he replaced into my recent upick

, and I honestly expect a gamma scumflip

see, I knew you'd notice, but it was really just dumb luck I found that character's gif, I just google'd "cute anime gifs"

Okay, so why didn’t you reference your reads and just post gifs? I know you had reads but when you think you’re dying, why not reference those posts?

[Cheeky Wings]

I see Gamma expecting death and posting all those anime gifs rather than reads,

particularly starting with a gif of the character he was scum as when he replaced into my recent upick

, and I honestly expect a gamma scumflip

see, I knew you'd notice, but it was really just dumb luck I found that character's gif, I just google'd "cute anime gifs"

Okay, so why didn’t you reference your reads and just post gifs? I know you had reads but when you think you’re dying, why not reference those posts?

@Gamma

[Cheeky Wings]

You shouldn't rule out a reality warping role that actually creates and implants false memories in players

This is straight out of a sci-fi movie.

[Cheeky Wings]

I see Gamma expecting death and posting all those anime gifs rather than reads,

particularly starting with a gif of the character he was scum as when he replaced into my recent upick

, and I honestly expect a gamma scumflip

see, I knew you'd notice, but it was really just dumb luck I found that character's gif, I just google'd "cute anime gifs"

Okay, so why didn’t you reference your reads and just post gifs? I know you had reads but when you think you’re dying, why not reference those posts?

because I'm spiteful and it was too much work, and also posting gifs was more fun
plus my reads aren't to the point where I feel like I can say "these are the people you should be killing" yet

You didn’t sound spiteful? You practically high fived toog?

[Cheeky Wings]

Yeah I checked the activity overview and if ratmans flips scum GLB and CW are basically IC.

This kind’ve bothers me because if we limmed rat and he flipped town, it kinds of sets us and Buddy up and you already know this is my town meta anyway, so this kind’ve bothers me a bit.

[Cheeky Wings]

You didn’t sound spiteful? You practically high fived toog?

I was more spiteful about the fact that the trend was continuing of people not actually bothering to check my posting for existing reads
and I wouldn't say I was hi-fiving toog, I wasn't getting pissy but I was pretty much just disappointed and resigned to what felt like a fair shot. Now, I'm more willing to argue the points he brought up now because arguing out of a lim is different to arguing out of a daykill. This is why I asked if you read my TM game, because my play here is kinda matching what I did there, I was constantly outside the townblock but managed to keep enough of a pulse on what the townblock wanted that I acted as a tool to accomplish their aims, with the goal being to eventually be able to solve for myself due to not being able to keep up with the game at the beginning. I never really got to do that but I still managed to live to the town win at endgame despite constantly fighting for my life. I also pulled a similar stunt in LN235, and cheeky can definitely back this up.

When I thought I was DOA in Ydrasse’s game, I made damned sure to post my reads and I was pretty damned frustrated that I was being wrongly sr just because my predecessor played so antitown.

VOTE: Gamma

I don’t believe your responses to this.

[Cheeky Wings]

i mean, i also thought the claim and vig shot were legit considering he seroousclaimed early on. but i also think that the vigshot "reaction tests" are so common that if you're scum, even if you 100% believe a claim, there would probably be enough brain in there to know to not go full lolcat

But he could have said, remember my reads when I die or anything like it but he said absolutely nothing but post gifs.

And he didn’t sound remotely angry or spiteful either. So that doesn’t ring true based off of anything he posted att.

[Cheeky Wings]

Rat reads as someone who is not paying much attention to the gamestate which is +town

why
I feel like my comparison to my mbos 10 play is valid so I'd like thoughts on that as well

Okay, talk to me about Deimos then since neither myself nor datisi have explained anything here about our votes so you cannot copy homework

to expand on what I've said earlier, I feel like he was trying to ride the wave of "gamma/dats is TvS" sentiment by suggesting we were the only two votes anyone should consider (kinda putting words in his mouth a bit but I also feel like timeline of events backs it up a bit)
his reads on me+dats also don't feel very nuanced at all

Alright then why aren’t you voting either instead of some nia lurker?

[Cheeky Wings]

Alright then why aren’t you voting either instead of some nia lurker?

I'm trying to pull content out of the slot by voting it, DUH.

Sorry not convinced by this because you obviously know that a Queen wagon is unlikely to happen anyway and if I’m getting run up as town, you had better believe I’m going down with voting a slot I actually sr. Voting a lurker is scummy because you know they’re not likely to do anything useful.

[Cheeky Wings]

Speaking of, Queen has just hit the 48 hour mark so I would say prepare to bully them

Fwiw, she’s not ellitelling.

@mod, plrease prod Queen

[Cheeky Wings]

Can I get a tally on how many people see CW and GLB as town leaders.
If it's enough people then I'll drop it.
I'll try to figure it out myself later but if anyone can @ me with their opinion to help me out I'd appreciate it.

Why isn’t enough just to be town?

[Cheeky Wings]

Man I just don't wanna read 20 pages a day.

The fun part is you don’t have to, when I struggle to keep up in a game I don’t worry about reading stuff I’m missing
Just keeping up with key events is rlly enough

I'm bad at that too...

@CW really my biggest beef with you earlier is the fact you pigeonholed my slot to fit your theory, rather than engaging me like I'm my own player with my own personality which informs my actions. Not to mention blatantly ignoring my concerns. It's okay to engage with the surface-level AND figure if something's going on underneath and what, but it felt like you just kept blowing me off.

I feel that my motivations and/or lack thereof came through in my ISO, which was my point.

Can you elaborate more? I have dyslexia so sometimes I misunderstand things. Thanks.

[Cheeky Wings]

should i start playing yet

If you have any input on the game you wish to share, that would be welcome.

[Cheeky Wings]

now you won’t catch me saying this often but it’s kind of infuriating koba died bc they had takes i agreed w for once...

Toog should have realized that scum!Koba wouldn’t have gone out of their way to piss them off like that. I still think Gamma’s trajectory on Dats is strange but I might have been reaching with my buddy theory. It definitely didn’t make any sense though that Gamma pushed Dats that hard, then suddenly backtracked on that without giving much of a reason.

If not Gamma, I’m still sussing of Victorine and yes jjh but when Gamma thought he was dying, he just kept posting gifs rather than giving reads so that doesn’t look great.

Gamma is distancing from Deimos not Dats. Gypx is town.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Yeah I checked the activity overview and if ratmans flips scum GLB and CW are basically IC.

Ratmans and Queen town if Gamma scum.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

T3, why do you townread me?
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Current team spec is Sakura/deimos/gamma/jjh/Clemency
My moonlogic says the claim from sakura is a scam cocreated with jjh.
T3 not so sure about now since scumbuddies be hot on the Gamma wagon.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Yeah I checked the activity overview and if ratmans flips scum GLB and CW are basically IC.

Ratmans and Queen town if Gamma scum.
~C

My murderlust on the rat is a little cooled off now that he seems to be honestly engaging w the game at large a bit but if he goes back on his bullshit there’s gonna be a problem
I do think he’s a bit sus for how he entered trying to placate Pooky only to push that slot for posting as much as they had tho

I'm still upset you tricked me into believing you're town D:
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Like if the sakura claim was legit I feel like she would've played differently so far and been more proactive in sorting the game rather than sitting back on a claim to get to x point that unleashes some scum power. Although I guess NK will resolve the slot to. We could potentially leash it and make everyone have faith on death to control the abilities.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Well hopefully Nancy will talk some sense into you because I am town

I tried townreading you and got told I was wrong so. Anyway you get you have to flip today regardless right. Might as well give a readslist if you are town.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

If it gets to the point I’m actually close to elimination I’ll write up a reads list then but y’all can seriously fuck off with this foregone conclusion shit. I’m a CaPrIcIoUs MoThAfUcKa and the sooner you figure that out, the better.

Better reaction than the helplessness coming out of your pores during the Toog guilty. Not sure yet if it's a little too late :/
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Not guilty, death threat sorry *

[Cheeky Wings]

Like if the sakura claim was legit I feel like she would've played differently so far and been more proactive in sorting the game rather than sitting back on a claim to get to x point that unleashes some scum power. Although I guess NK will resolve the slot to. We could potentially leash it and make everyone have faith on death to control the abilities.
~C

...
Seriously eff off. I spent the majority of the day figuring out how to play this role because it's above my pay grade to the point that I started getting scumread so I decided to give up on it and claimed instead.
And now apparently you dont like it coz i didnt play it the way YOU WANTED me to play it, so it HAS to be fake.

You don't need to be so grumpy and project your hostility onto me thanks.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Because it pisses me off that I've been sitting here trying to figure out how to best play this role to get the full effect and everytime came with a blank. If it's not obvious by the fact that I only got 1 faith and not 2 right now. And now you're here like "Oh if you were that role you would have played like THIS". Yeah you're not me kthxbye

Again chill out. Not my fault you're struggling, nor did I ever claim you should have played like x,y,z or that I'm you. If you can't handle someone judging your play then why are you playing mafia lol.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

T3, why do you townread me?
~C

It doesn’t really feel like you have much of an agenda, you also talked about your role almost as soon as you started posting which is statistically in role madness games +towns

This is weak T3.

Sakura can be town so maybe she'll perk up since I no longer need to interact with her.

~C

[Cheeky Wings]

I was scum in Scarlett witch and you townread me there so how do you have confidence in another townread on me when you're the meta guy who has bad meta reads on me in particular?
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

I dunno just feel like town T3 is like "gut" the explanation seems like easy justification that scum T3 might use to to look like he's sorting. Imma keep my big eye on you O_o
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

I'm in limbo where I don't have concrete reasons to rethink my confident reads in my eyes but apparently others have.

So I'm really just focusing on townhunting atm

pedit

Would party but am going to bed

And noted jjh Ask me anything.

Top 10 town for you at this point?
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

I'm in limbo where I don't have concrete reasons to rethink my confident reads in my eyes but apparently others have.

So I'm really just focusing on townhunting atm

pedit

Would party but am going to bed

And noted jjh Ask me anything.

Top 10 town for you at this point?
~C

Titus
Deimos
CheekyWings
GLB
Rat
Loftwing
Ydrasse
Galron ?
Sakura ?
Jjh ?
T3 ?

Not a scummy winning list atm

? means the latest impression of the slot could be town, not a complete read

Can you sound out your impressions of deimos and rat a little please?
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

So I don't know what your intentions are.

I already stated them:

Well that's true. I am here for the experience, nothing more nothing less.

Happy scum day!
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

hey guys... funny thing is i never got a game start pm so i never knew the game started lol

Is this a town slip?
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

I'm not looking forward to this. I just got the game start PM this morning.

same

Oh two of them? Although Galron seems more like they don't log in much rather than not receiving notification?
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

also heard a good strat for this is everyone to rr and someone(s) to keep a record list of all the pr claims therfore to keep any inaccuraces, discrepancies that could happen during the night or even later day

anyone disagree agree?

Feel free to be the book keeper. We've vaguely claimed PR that's potentially -ve utility.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Deimos is looking better imho.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

@ratmans can I get some thoughts on peeps that aren't hydras bruv?
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

I'm not tr'ing CheekyWings. They (or more specifically, Nancy I think?) remind me of scum!Noraa with just the avalanche of AtE spew and self-meta.

But people seem to concur that for their meta it's indeed town-ai?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Then focus solely on me BB.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

T3, why do you townread me?
~C

It doesn’t really feel like you have much of an agenda, you also talked about your role almost as soon as you started posting which is statistically in role madness games +towns

This is weak T3.

Sakura can be town so maybe she'll perk up since I no longer need to interact with her.

~C

Sakura and T3 are both obvtown here Cheeky.

[Cheeky Wings]

Anything uPick Votecount 1.69:

Gamma Emerald (8): Taly, Ydrasse, Deimos27, Good Luck Buddy, Ircher, Sakura Hana, T3, Cheeky Wings,
Deimos27 (3): Jjh927, Datisi, Gamma Emerald
Cheeky Wings (2): Gypyx, Ratmans
Victorine (1): Titus
Sakura Hana (1): Victorine
Queen (0):
Good Luck Buddy (0):
Datisi (0):
Loftwing (0):
Jjh927 (0):
Ydrasse (0):
Ircher (0):
Clemency (0):
Galron (0):
T3 (0):
Gypyx (0):
Titus (0):
Grandpa (0):
Ratmans (0):
Taly (0):

Not Voting: Clemency, Galron, Grandpa, Loftwing, Queen

With 20 alive it's 11 to lim.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-11-20 21:00:00).

@mod, Can we prod some of these lurksacks?

[Cheeky Wings]

hey guys... funny thing is i never got a game start pm so i never knew the game started lol

Oh that explains it. It seems like 1/5 of the playerlist hasn’t posted, so I was wondering.

[Cheeky Wings]

the only fucking way

firebringer could be scum

is if we're some kind of split alignment hydra

which i guess isn't impossible

since this is RC


but I wouldn't bet on it

I don’t believe he’s ever actually done that ever.

[Cheeky Wings]

Oh no cannot even copy

You can paraphrase.

[Cheeky Wings]

I'm not tr'ing CheekyWings. They (or more specifically, Nancy I think?) remind me of scum!Noraa with just the avalanche of AtE spew and self-meta.

But people seem to concur that for their meta it's indeed town-ai?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I’m nothing like Noraa, so comparing me to her is pointless. None of that is scum indicative for me. At the wirst, it’s nia to town indicative.

Do I have to repeat yesterday? Please no

[Cheeky Wings]

Spoiler: @CW

Man I just don't wanna read 20 pages a day.

The fun part is you don’t have to, when I struggle to keep up in a game I don’t worry about reading stuff I’m missing
Just keeping up with key events is rlly enough

I'm bad at that too...

@CW really my biggest beef with you earlier is the fact you pigeonholed my slot to fit your theory, rather than engaging me like I'm my own player with my own personality which informs my actions. Not to mention blatantly ignoring my concerns. It's okay to engage with the surface-level AND figure if something's going on underneath and what, but it felt like you just kept blowing me off.

I feel that my motivations and/or lack thereof came through in my ISO, which was my point.

Can you elaborate more? I have dyslexia so sometimes I misunderstand things. Thanks.

Sorry

What I mean is: it felt like you only considered the parts of me that fit with a haphazard narrative (having to do with Datisi being scum, if I remember correctly).

The conclusions you made regarding me did not seem like they incorporated the context of my actions, words, or tone, at all.

There was no effort made to see things from a town!me perspective. It was assumed that either I'm town and dumb or I'm scum.

I put my motivations in clear view. I put my concern for town in clear view. There are clearly players other than myself who are struggling to keep up. That, in my point of view, is the opposite of beneficial to town. It's a very valid concern that got demonized without good faith engagement.

It’s possible. I get really pissed when I’m wrongly sr, so I just react. And I know I said I was obvtown here but that’s 100% based off of my play and meta. I’m just too damned lazy to effort like this as scum. I’m really trying hard to to solve this game and it’s jusr extremely frustrating that I continue to be doubted.

[Cheeky Wings]

I'll get back to you on thoughts about other players after I catch up but I can't promise they'll be great

You’re doing fine. Ftr, I don’t want to be a leader unless I’m absolutely certain about something. Otherwise, I’m willing to cooperate.

[Cheeky Wings]

hey guys... funny thing is i never got a game start pm so i never knew the game started lol

Is this a town slip?
~C

I'm willing to buy that, but, didnt Nancy do that in FFXIV too? or does it not count coz it was an hydra

I never ever fakeslip ftr as any alignment. Remember HW, I recall totally misunderstanding something mech related but can’t recall now what that was.

I can believe people didn’t get a gamestart pm but I’ll base my reads off of play.

[Cheeky Wings]

Spoiler:

it only now occurred to me this could theoretically be a scum role that gets more powerful if people townread her. oh well.

It sounds protown to me. In my previous RC uPick, Mastina had an obvscum role: a role that only killed town in duels.

I don't see how this counters Datisi's point. It's not town vs. antitown, but rather town!Sakura with an ability that grows in power vs. scum!Sakura with an ability that grows in power.

But why would he post that knowing you would recognize it? He’s enough of an experienced player to know toog could still change his mind.

Experience doesn't make one infallible.

And rat the super genious scumhunter that would give Sherlock Holmes a run for his money - NOT - was doing his damndest to get me run up today.

Aren't they still doing that? Or am I misremembering?

Rat reads as someone who is not paying much attention to the gamestate which is +town

This is a bad take.

this is nice but I still wanna try to drag queen into the game tyvm

And this, friends, is a complete waste of time.

Alright then why aren’t you voting either instead of some nia lurker?

I'm trying to pull content out of the slot by voting it, DUH.

No, you're avoiding doing anything useful by vote parking on a lurker. Which perhaps is fine if we had all the time in the world to twiddle our thumbs, but we don't. Every second counts, and every second wasted cannot be regained.

should i start playing yet

Nice prodge.

Yeah I checked the activity overview and if ratmans flips scum GLB and CW are basically IC.

Ratmans and Queen town if Gamma scum.
~C

Ha, no way. That's some extremely flawed reasoning right there. Rat has been doing their best to distract from the Gamma wagon. A red flip on Gamma almost surely means the opposite: a red flip on rat.

, you also talked about your role almost as soon as you started posting which is statistically in role madness games +towns

Wow, so much sloppy reasoning!

I agree.

I've reconsidered. It seems doubtful scum decides faking not knowing the game started. Like, it isn't impossible, but it also feels a poor strategy because it will get them poed down the road.

That doesn't answer my issue.

Are you trying to place pressure to better solve me, or are you testing the waters to see where the waves head?

I am making a statement of assent, nothing more, nothing less.

Happy scum day!
~C

Thanks!

I have been up about 40h straight with just one 3h nap in the middle of the day because my college is sadistic, so facts are definitely something I might be prone to getting wrong atm

Are you able to pull up the post whose content and author you mistook?

This is not good. A healthy sleep schedule will make your life better in all ways.

My point was that Mastina accuratately claimed a proscum role as a negative utility but RC said at the end of that game, that he would never design a town role that scumsided.

Anyway, I don’t see why you think rat is scum. It seems he really wants me to understand where he’s coming from and that reads protown to me since scum do their damndest to avoid being understood.

[Cheeky Wings]

hey guys... funny thing is i never got a game start pm so i never knew the game started lol

Is this a town slip?
~C

I'm willing to buy that, but, didnt Nancy do that in FFXIV too? or does it not count coz it was an hydra

RC announcing pregame scum got their role PMs early makes it a little more Indicative here imo.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Ircher, I mean it’s possible since I was the cw in that case.

[Cheeky Wings]

Ha, no way. That's some extremely flawed reasoning right there. Rat has been doing their best to distract from the Gamma wagon. A red flip on Gamma almost surely means the opposite: a red flip on rat.

Valid. I like it.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

No, you're avoiding doing anything useful by vote parking on a lurker. Which perhaps is fine if we had all the time in the world to twiddle our thumbs, but we don't. Every second counts, and every second wasted cannot be regained.

We have 11 days remaining and some people want to end the day already. So your critique falls flat, we have plenty of time to use.

I hate both of these posts. Ircher's somewhat more.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

hey, anyone interested in that wagon?

VOTE: Ircher

dunno how ircher plays usually, but he's got a really passive stance there, not motivated to piece the puzzle

Where is "there" exactly?
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

i am not impressed with deimos's return

and i dislike his defence(?) of saying that he still thinks i or gamma are the best votes today. like, i already said why i disliked his original sus on me (though i didn't necessarily find him scummy), and uh, yeah, if you're self-proclaimed to be very excited about solving as town, is you not solving a single thing about two slots you sussed at thw very beginning of the game not concerning?

and i think he commented how he can't have the whole playerlist sorted by now or how his reads are more tone/vibe based, which was never my point against him? (if it was gamma's, then /shrug, but.)

I'm very impressed with your grammar ^.^
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Oh I just clicked that Ircher is a survivor...
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

3) The faction numbers are 18:5.

Hmm maybe not.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Nah bro, i'm already a Mime, no way we got two 3p, in the game

You troll
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Gamma Emerald (9): Taly, Ydrasse, Deimos27, Good Luck Buddy, Ircher, Sakura Hana, T3, Cheeky Wings, Queen

Anyone want to take a guess at how many scum currently on wagon in both Gamma universes?
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

I'm going to unvote because I'm not even close to ready for the day to end yet with Gamma at L-2.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

jjh, what do you like about his recent posts (other than "he is posting")

The outlandish weak push

The push based on a contrived scumslip relating to a neighbourhood, and the apparent frustration that it hadn't been listened to within that hood. It's the kind of thing scum don't tend to come up with because it's both novel and very weak. If scum come up with something novel, they still know it's false and will present it in a way reflecting the strength of the argument, if they even use it at all. Town often don't assess the strength of argument accurately.

If a player can convince themself but nobody else

with a bizarre argument, they are most likely town.

Veiled Noraa reference?

[Cheeky Wings]

UNVOTE:
I want Titus and ydrasse to post some reads.
@Datisi do you still think ydrasse is scum?
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Stealth hi-bye

This is exactly Nico did in Labrynth except she said exactly “prod dodge”, iirc.

[Cheeky Wings]

Gamma Emerald (9): Taly, Ydrasse, Deimos27, Good Luck Buddy, Ircher, Sakura Hana, T3, Cheeky Wings, Queen

Anyone want to take a guess at how many scum currently on wagon in both Gamma universes?
~C

0-3

[Cheeky Wings]

I'm going to unvote because I'm not even close to ready for the day to end yet with Gamma at L-2.
~C

We really didn’t need to unvote because of E -2 but whatever.

I think it’s the right vote because I don’t buy Gamma’s claiming he posted gifs instead of making reads based off being “spiteful” since his posting att read anything but to me.

[Cheeky Wings]

I'm going to unvote because I'm not even close to ready for the day to end yet with Gamma at L-2.
~C

We really didn’t need to unvote because of E -2 but whatever.

I think it’s the right vote because I don’t buy Gamma’s claiming he posted gifs instead of making reads based off being “spiteful” since his posting att read anything but to me.

I agree, but I don't want anyone to get away with coasting D1 when we still have plenty of time for discussion. The more work town does now the easier it's going to be to avoid autoloss in a role madness game.

If GLB does in fact get stronger with scumreads maybe they have a role that is the yin to sakuras role. I'd assume that one would be a scum role and the other slightly weaker and town. If it's all a joke then disregard.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

I'm going to unvote because I'm not even close to ready for the day to end yet with Gamma at L-2.
~C

We really didn’t need to unvote because of E -2 but whatever.

I think it’s the right vote because I don’t buy Gamma’s claiming he posted gifs instead of making reads based off being “spiteful” since his posting att read anything but to me.

I agree, but I don't want anyone to get away with coasting D1 when we still have plenty of time for discussion. The more work town does now the easier it's going to be to avoid autoloss in a role madness game.

If GLB does in fact get stronger with scumreads maybe they have a role that is the yin to sakuras role. I'd assume that one would be a scum role and the other slightly weaker and town. If it's all a joke then disregard.
~C

That’s GLB but especially Fire in every single game ftr. I don’t see why scum!Sakura ever makes that kind of claim when she is in 0 danger of being run up and I am extremely close to being a bonafide teddy bear whisperer and I’m telling you that slot is lock town.