I do but at this point, it isn’t helpful, so that’s why Occam’s razor is correct the vast majority of the time. In Labrynth, incidentally another RC game, some people had this incorrect theory that the hard claimed town bg was actually a scum doc. Well they were in fact town bg and we almost lost the game because of unsubstantiated tin foil.
Thanks but I already took my maximum dose. Perhaps champagne and chocolate truffles might be more helpful? Why would you give me vitamins of all things?
Thanks but I already took my maximum dose. Perhaps champagne and chocolate truffles might be more helpful? Why would you give me vitamins of all things?
Hm...
I can only give you stuff you would find in your local resturant. I don't have any champagne or chocolate truffles... that's too expensive for me.
I can give you fries, fried chicken, salads.
I can also give you Chocolate-dipped Fresh Strawberry Skewers
In post 5966, Good Luck Buddy wrote:nothing and thats problem. T3 is pretty active in responding/solving even if he has bad takes. This game he feels like he is going for purposeful or maybe he can't keep up.
Ydrasse targeted gypyx but T3 and Clemency got frozen instead. I think that points to T3 being likely town, besides this looks like their town meta to me here.
In post 5973, Good Luck Buddy wrote:i could be wrong about my mod meta on rc games but if i remember right he doesn't like putting in post restrictions because they are annoying. so unless u explicitly asked for one (who does that), i have no idea why he would include one for u to do this robot speak
No, he did that both in the other uPick I was in and he also did that in Labrynth and Undertale as well. RC loves this shit, so I don’t know why you’d think it’s fake?
The only obviously fake post restriction is Victorine’s.
i have no issues with this.
i would add sakura and jjh as well
The only thing I want to townbin
Sakura
for is to see the resolution of her claim and not based off her play thus far, so I'm wondering what people see there.
And as for
Jjh
? The logic-mindmeld is very strong and their responses to me have been on-point and that somehow is what makes me fearful.
When I read
jjh
, I feel like I understand why most people are paranoid upon townreading me because there is a sense of competence that overshadows a concrete motive.
Like, how is he so candid with townlocking majority of the playerlist - it can't just be because he wants to race to solve the game first? How does he have the best answer to
Gypy'x
IC claim but 180'd from pushing them while he somewhat spiraled with a carousel hypothesis for mech? Why doesn't he second-think the fact that our scumreads are largely consensus - or does he see value in rethinking?
He just seems confident and I don't know if it's powertown or informed and I really, really want to figure out sooner than later.
Throw GLB and CW out.
I have read some more and my scumreads are currently (GLB, Gypyx, CW)
My only townread is Datisi.
In post 5975, Taly wrote:The only thing I want to townbin Sakura for is to see the resolution of her claim and not based off her play thus far, so I'm wondering what people see there.
And as for Jjh? The logic-mindmeld is very strong and their responses to me have been on-point and that somehow is what makes me fearful.
When I read jjh, I feel like I understand why most people are paranoid upon townreading me because there is a sense of competence that overshadows a concrete motive.
Like, how is he so candid with townlocking majority of the playerlist - it can't just be because he wants to race to solve the game first? How does he have the best answer to Gypy'x IC claim but 180'd from pushing them while he somewhat spiraled with a carousel hypothesis for mech? Why doesn't he second-think the fact that our scumreads are largely consensus - or does he see value in rethinking?
don't tell this to sakura but i forgot why i townread her. i think i reaction tested her early day 1 and just really liked her response.
as far as jjh, if he is mind-melding he is doing so for me before i even get words on page. So good job on his end. I mean if ur paranoid of his townblocking manner and mindmelding did u check his scum game out? i can't say i looked into his scum game but i feel he would treat me alot differently here if scum. Like i don't think he would be eager to townblock me or even push same reads as me
I agree with this, jjh sounds nothing here like he did in Happy Face.
-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter (everybody else)
Nancy
-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect (everybody else again)
I feel like the latter when I read her posts.
I not only like this but it’s making me crave some garlic toast. I actually don’t really understand the hot knife butter analogy but I’d say the magnifying glass one is pretty apt.
In post 5992, Not Known 15 wrote:The red flag on CW was the datisi read progression, that's a really bad flag.
There are multiple red flags on GLB: Their double explanation of the Ircher vote change, and their defense tied to Gypyx.
Gypyx has a really scummy role claim that screams "I need to survive" and lied during explanations.
Gypyx is tied to GLB as well.
Datisi on the other hand... this play doesn't look to me like it comes from scum. It is the one really not only pushing sensibly but also just feels like town to me, but I can't really explain that. I rarely have townreads but they have been accurate so far(when I was town, of course!).
What is scummy about my Datisi read progression? What did GLB lie about? How are they tied to gypyx? Also how much of the game have you even read? I haven’t talked about Dats for eons but the one thing we actually do agree on is your Dats’ read.
In post 5973, Good Luck Buddy wrote:i could be wrong about my mod meta on rc games but if i remember right he doesn't like putting in post restrictions because they are annoying. so unless u explicitly asked for one (who does that), i have no idea why he would include one for u to do this robot speak
No, he did that both in the other uPick I was in and he also did that in Labrynth and Undertale as well. RC loves this shit, so I don’t know why you’d think it’s fake?
The only obviously fake post restriction is Victorine’s.
i know he has done post restrictions. and i could be misremembering our conversations of them and inserting my own opinion into his. But thats besides point. it really doesn't matter if its fake or not to me. It only matters if SS is using as a shield to hide.
I don’t think he is though based on some post he had RC edit because he used a comma or something, so I doubt RC would have edited his post if that post restriction was fake.
-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter (everybody else)
Nancy
-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect (everybody else again)
I feel like the latter when I read her posts.
I not only like this but it’s making me crave some garlic toast. I actually don’t really understand the hot knife butter analogy but I’d say the magnifying glass one is pretty apt.
Your content as scum is similar to your town game, but I register several stark behavioral differences. It's a personality read.
You conflate perspectives you disagree with more as scum. You're also quicker to make assumptions off limited information, possibly because you
have
information. I'd even say you're likelier to be more emotional in the game as scum than as town, likely because you feel more responsible for the state of the game than ever as scum trying to survive.
When I say you're a hot knife slicing through butter, I mean you're sharp. But I don't mean that as in cleverness or precise - that's more your town game, I mean that as in abrupt and piercing. You can TMI not through a correct read of the player, but an understanding of the game that is already clear to you no matter how fuzzy it is to the rest of the plist.
I’d say I pretty much agree with everything but the emotion part. Am I more stressed as scum? Absolutely but the game that stressed me out the most was me v Titus (where I was town stump) because I felt it would be on my head if we lost that game, so that much is true. However, I have had meltdowns as both alignments. Being emotional or unemotional is pretty much nia for me. My emotional outbursts are less game related than to either something I’m dealing with oog/rl or if something happening in a game triggers my CPTSD. Boon’s To Be or Not to Be would be the best example I can think of wrt to that. I had pretty much a complete meltdown in that game and I was town in that. I went on for multiple pages about that as well.
In post 5842, jjh927 wrote:I think the REALLY obvious thing that makes this current game scum!NK15 is that he doesn't care about looking for town
He looks for singular reasons that players can be scum
There is nothing beyond that.
In post 5844, jjh927 wrote:He doesn't need a developed case on why someone could be scum. He wants 1 reason so that he can say "GLB is scum because he was shading Ircher while voting Victorine" and stick to his line on that
He isn't interested in finding players who are town because he is aligned with the mafia
In post 6034, jjh927 wrote:Woooooow I criticise how NK15 has literally only 2 reads which he has linked together and neither of them are townreads
And then he adds in another scumread on another player who is not scum and a badly articulated townread which boils down to "this feels town"
This is absolutely an attempt to respond to my push
Maybe?
What I dislike most is both his inexplicably tieing GLB to gypyx and clearly only reading my initial push on Datsii and not my entire progression on them and is ignoring everything else, so could be faked?
In post 5973, Good Luck Buddy wrote:i could be wrong about my mod meta on rc games but if i remember right he doesn't like putting in post restrictions because they are annoying. so unless u explicitly asked for one (who does that), i have no idea why he would include one for u to do this robot speak
No, he did that both in the other uPick I was in and he also did that in Labrynth and Undertale as well. RC loves this shit, so I don’t know why you’d think it’s fake?
The only obviously fake post restriction is Victorine’s.
i know he has done post restrictions. and i could be misremembering our conversations of them and inserting my own opinion into his. But thats besides point. it really doesn't matter if its fake or not to me. It only matters if SS is using as a shield to hide.
To vote in their favor, use HEAL: Gypyx. To support the charges, use HURT: Gypyx. Gypyx will be found innocent if they receive 7 heal votes before they receive 7 hurt votes.
Votes cannot be changed after being made.
Heal (7): Jjh927, Sakura Hana, Something_Smart, Galron, GrandpaMo, Cheeky Wings, Taly
Hurt (2): Not Known 15, Titus
Not voting: Everyone
The day will end in (expired on 2021-12-05 21:00:00).
Gypyx, Titus, Ydrasse, SS, Galron were the ones that voted ratmans in that order
Why was he wagoned in the first place
Well it was about loftwing and ratmans doing practically nothing, I was voting loftwing to get him to participate more, then people were asking if there was any case about prefering one over the other, but since there wasnt one, people just wagoned ratmans, before i even realized, ratmans just got quickhammered, Galron has said that he didnt realize he was quickhammering despite ydrasse saying that he was E-2.
In post 6254, T3 wrote:Attach me to something and I’ll use my vig shot or neighborizer someone
If the person with the attach ability can safely claim it we could try to control this vig shot. Unclear if it could be executed in a pro-town way given that scum likely has the tools to interfere if they are targeted.
i dont want any more claims regarding this
if town can help, we protect them
t3
can you just attempt to submit an action and hope someone helps you?
In post 6283, Ydrasse wrote:i used my doublevote ability i didn't ice anyone
Oh so it wasn't NK. Then did you have anything to do with Sakura being loved?
~C
In post 1517, Sakura Hana wrote:So my flavor is Sanae Kochiya.
I gather faith everytime a townie dies they can choose to pray for me, and at certain tresholds different things happen.
At 3 faith I become loved for the rest of the game except on XLo
At 5 faith I get a 1S parity cop
At 7 faith I get a Triple Unstoppable Role cop
At 10 faith I get a 2S disloyal vig shots
At 13 faith I can leave the game and the mod will tell me the full scum team and I can strongman vig one of them.
Now with this im pretty sure scum will kill me... specially before the 10 faith treshold, but it's better than having to figure out how to use this role and avoid the NK at the same time.
Oh! Thank you ^.^
I do need to be spoon-fed from time to time.
~C
In post 6254, T3 wrote:Attach me to something and I’ll use my vig shot or neighborizer someone
If the person with the attach ability can safely claim it we could try to control this vig shot. Unclear if it could be executed in a pro-town way given that scum likely has the tools to interfere if they are targeted.
i dont want any more claims regarding this
if town can help, we protect them
t3
can you just attempt to submit an action and hope someone helps you?
Well I would assume some counterbalancing role would exist if true but I am at a complete loss to understand the whole attachment part of his claim.
you won't waste anything, right?
How would that happen? How can he be helped?
i dont know if
kittybells
just creates a role that nothing can be done about
we can assume that someone can help
t3
but if they are town or if
t3
actually is town, we don't want that person's role to be flushed if we can townside
t3's
night action.
I would think that if the claim is true, some type of counterbalancing role would have to exist but I am at a complete loss as to what that could be.
I'm trying to say that you knew Vic and GMo were scum when you tried to chainsaw JJH and you voted ratmans and Ircher over Vic when Vic was in your poe D1. It all looks pretty obvious in hindsight since we know some alignments now.
~C
I Didn't Start The Ratmans Wagon If That's What You're Implying
In post 6329, Cheeky Wings wrote:I'm trying to say that you knew Vic and GMo were scum when you tried to chainsaw JJH and you voted ratmans and Ircher over Vic when Vic was in your poe D1. It all looks pretty obvious in hindsight since we know some alignments now.
~C
Dats’ NK I think proves at least one scum in WB because Titus was confirmed tpr in main thread but Dats was only confitowned by NK15 in ours.
I dont understand this logic?
Are you implying there's no scum in EB? Also didnt you guys say GMo flipped scum? He was in WB no?
All this split that happened on day 3 is confusing me.
No of course I’m not saying no scum in EB but NK15 contowned Dats in WB and he was the NK flip posted in that pt, so logic suggests that scum likely had some way to have found out about this, because he wasn’t confitowned anywhere else but in WB.
In post 6329, Cheeky Wings wrote:I'm trying to say that you knew Vic and GMo were scum when you tried to chainsaw JJH and you voted ratmans and Ircher over Vic when Vic was in your poe D1. It all looks pretty obvious in hindsight since we know some alignments now.
~C
Yeah Totally That's Why I Switched To Victorine Three Pages Later And Never Voted Ircher
Did You Even Read My Iso Before Posting This
Fine the voting around vic theory doesn't hold. BUT you tmi'd on Vic by saying JJH was her buddy when JJH was pushing GMo. So I'm going to tunnel you as soon as I'm done with Deimos. O_~
You need the head start.
~C