Anything uPick (Endgame)

[Galron]

What role did Datisi flip?

[Galron]

Did I miss that somewhere?

[Galron]

T3 did you receive anything Night 2?

Yeah
I got beets, and something else.

How did the beets taste?

My reputation is on the line here.

T3 are you sure they didn't taste like carrots?

[Galron]

Anyone who targeted ratmans could send him a dawn message, and at daystart he could post an anonymous email video, whatever that means.

[Galron]

Actually yeah probably T3 does need to die

Actually idk I was thinking it makes more sense that Mo wanted T3 to help clear him and made the hood claim before T3 was on board with the plan and T3 backed out than that Mo was trying to take a townie down with him. But idk how confirming the hood claim would actually help Mo clear himself at all

What's the basis for T3 scum read?

[Galron]

Cheeky, are you thinking GMo/S_S/T3?

[Galron]

Plus whomever I guess.

[Galron]

He was a weird governor-bodyguard hybrid thing from what I gathered

Did he have any abilities that would be useful to scum?

[Galron]

What's next, Prohibition?

[Galron]

Just to be clear. GMO was called out by NK15 who revealed information to all of us that his role meant that all PTs were closed.
Something GMO was likely unaware of.

This Would Make The Remaining Members Of The Hood Town Wouldn't It

What Did GMo Claim

Good
Point

[Galron]

Just to be clear. GMO was called out by NK15 who revealed information to all of us that his role meant that all PTs were closed.
Something GMO was likely unaware of.

This Would Make The Remaining Members Of The Hood Town Wouldn't It

What Did GMo Claim

Good
Point

Didn't mean to do that.

I wanted to ask isn't there a role card for GMo in the WB?

[Galron]

T3 : scumish
Deimos27 : scumish
Loftwing : town
Not Known 15 : lock town
Gypyx : confirmable at elo
Sakura Hana : town
Galron : town
Good Luck Buddy : open wolf
Gamma Emerald : townish
Taly : townish
Clemency : confirmed town
Something_Smart : scumish
Ydrasse : townish

This is where I'm at atm.
~C

Vibing with this reads list except I'd put both GLB and Ydra as more null.

[Galron]

All T3 has mentioned is that he needs it, but do we know if such a role actually exists and T3 is telling the truth?

Don't kill T3 yet. I sent him carrots on N2, and he said he received beets. I want to know why he said he got beets.

There's more to this, but I want the answer to this question first.

[Galron]

Cheeky is obv town btw.

[Galron]

Was there a role card for Datisi's flip that explained his actions?

[Galron]

All the flips are in the OP.

Thank you, Admiral.

[Galron]

T3 did you receive anything Night 2?

Yeah
I got beets, and something else.

How did the beets taste?

My reputation is on the line here.

T3 are you sure they didn't taste like carrots?

n1 i was encased
n2 i was beetsed and smth else
n3 nothing

I sent you carrots, not beets. Did you get the carrots?

[Galron]

I'm confused about the arguments for and against NotKnown. And I too would like to see something from him regarding the closing of the PTs other than a Why Not.

[Galron]

I'm starting reading from D2 and oof...

This NK/GLB stuff is going to be rough to get through

Lemme know when you come up with an answer on that one bc I'm inthe same pickle.

[Galron]

VOTE: Something_Smart

Still doesn't sound right to me.

[Galron]

Galron, did you give me the other thing?

Affirmative.

[Galron]

im a little bothered that i kind of cleared

Rat

D1 by making them dumbtell so hard and they get mislimmed anyway but oh well

Can you point to this. I really don't remember.

[Galron]

Also VP, there were like 6 or 8 of us who didn't get the game start pm until 40 or 50 pages in, including Clemency iirc. I know you didn't read Day 1 but it took a minute for me at least to get a grasp on the game because of the late start. I assume for some of the others it was the same.

[Galron]

I had a townread on Loftwing for some reason I still don't remember, and I haven't gone back and looked yet.

[Galron]

Also VP, there were like 6 or 8 of us who didn't get the game start pm until 40 or 50 pages in, including Clemency iirc. I know you didn't read Day 1 but it took a minute for me at least to get a grasp on the game because of the late start. I assume for some of the others it was the same.

Ok....but what does that have to do with the speed finish to D3 on rat?

Nothing.

[Galron]

UNVOTE:

SS and Galron, can you explain why you followed Titus then ydrasse onto rat without much discussion?

I was good with joining the wagon since everyone else looked decent except for S_S. I just fumbled knowing the vote count, which looks really bad bc ydra had just said it was e-2, but I guess it is what it is.

[Galron]

Also VP, there were like 6 or 8 of us who didn't get the game start pm until 40 or 50 pages in, including Clemency iirc. I know you didn't read Day 1 but it took a minute for me at least to get a grasp on the game because of the late start. I assume for some of the others it was the same.

Ok....but what does that have to do with the speed finish to D3 on rat?

Nothing.

Why did you say it then?

For your edification.

[Galron]

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but all the different day phase mechanics so far have been a result of NK15's ability?

Another question to anyone for clarity: the eastern bloc yeeted and that ended the day before western bloc had a chance to yeet?

Dunno on either of these.

[Galron]

And what do your beets do for people who get them?

Nutrition. Same with the corn.

[Galron]

And both taste good too.

[Galron]

At least mine do.

[Galron]

So you're basically claiming straight fruit vendor with no other effects?

Nope.

[Galron]

Red poop. You were right to be in the Eastern Bloc.

[Galron]

Out pace* as in we hammered before they did.
~C

Wait. The WB hammered before we did? There was something Ydra said along the lines of we (the EB) were holding things up. I got the impression that we were moving slowly.

[Galron]

OKay Ydra only said that we needed two more votes to get us out of that phase.

[Galron]

VOTE: Ydrasse

[Galron]

Hmm... UNVOTE:

[Galron]

I see. Ratmans wasn't paying attention. Why didn't anyone in the EB bring that up?

[Galron]

Wonder how RC divided us

[Galron]

Also, any key events in the game so far I should check out? I'm definitely not reading 260 pages.

GMO and Victorine are flipped scum. Victorine D2, and GMO NATO D3, due to my CC.

What is NATO other than a feckless treaty organization that hasn't done shit since the 1980s.

[Galron]

Wonder how RC divided us

Galron townslipped with this. Everyone in WB knows that it was NK15 not RC who did that.

Wait how. I don't understand.

[Galron]

Gets to choose PTs or all PTs or nothing?

[Galron]

-Galron says he thinks GMO is scum....which I'm realizing is weird now????

Galron, can you explain why this came to your mind then in EB?

Gypyx asked ratmans and loftwing to give 2 townreads and 1 scumread of those in the PT. I said I thought that was a decent idea and I'd do it to but after they did and said that as a teaser I thought GMo was scum. Sakura said that Gypyx wanted reads from in the thread. I said that's why it's a teaser. What you read is literally what happened.

[Galron]

The two parts were completely seperated.
Tinfoil.

I'm asking because the only link would be the scum who could take about both sides in their PT, yes?

Unless the scum PT didn't have daytalk then?

The 1st Amendment rights had not yet been repealed so I assume they had it.

[Galron]

The two parts were completely seperated.
Tinfoil.

I'm asking because the only link would be the scum who could take about both sides in their PT, yes?

Unless the scum PT didn't have daytalk then?

The 1st Amendment rights had not yet been repealed so I assume they had it.

No! The scum pt was seperated into two.
Those two sides acted like independent games for that time.
I thought that would be clear.
There is a minimum of one scum in each of {NATO, UDSSR},due to two different nightkills.

I didn't pick up on that.

[Galron]

I mean, how would anyone pick up on that?

[Galron]

VOTE: Something_Smart

[Galron]

+GMo says his neighbour spoke to him at a time when D3 had started. NK confirms with mod that all hoods are closed. Taly confirmed earlier in the day that his hood was also closed.

So the hoods were closed but the scum PT was split on Day 3. Near the beginning of Day 4 all PTs are closed. So Night 3 there are 2 scum PTs that decide 2 NKs. Presumably scum had their PT restored until all the PTs were closed earlier on Day 4.

[Galron]

Loft did nothing in the EB. Three fluff posts

[Galron]

*sneezes*

*tissue*

[Galron]

Who the hell is playing mafia.

[Galron]

To make things easier, i picked 2 people from Taly's PoE to parity cop to help thin down that list.

This is what is called a good move.

[Galron]

I sent you corn GLB but not the other stuff.

[Galron]

I sent you corn GLB but not the other stuff.

Who do you think the guilty is on?

I don't remember taly's townbloc, but I don't think S_S is in it so I think FB is wrong about that.

[Galron]

Why ask me specifically, anyway?

[Galron]

I misread. I thought sakura did a parity check in Taly's townbloc not POE

I'm guessing S_S

[Galron]

Bus Driver would've to guess who I'm targeting, while it's not impossible it's rarer since i never gave any hint of where i would target. Trying to save themselves from a guilty if i target them while giving me a fake guilty if i target their target is not a bad thing to do, but I find the chances of me hitting a false positive due to a bus driver more unlikely that me hitting a false negative.

I went to assume since I didnt get "same alignment" I wasnt redirected since I assumed a redirector would change both of my targets to the same person hence always being "same alignment" regardless of which 2 I target.

It's not all that improbable given that several have scum read S_S. You don't really have to jump through a lot of hoops to get there. But regardless, we'd have to give him the benefit of the doubt that a redirector does exist, something I'm not willing to do at this point. And it's a defense that's easy for S_S to make. That, combined with "I can prove myself tomorrow" just seems a bit hinky to me.

[Galron]

HOw long do we leave SS hanging at e1

[Galron]

Hint: someone unvote so we can talk some more. All for the lim though.

[Galron]

Now feels like a good time to popcorn

[Galron]

should i selfhammer

Maybe tell us about attachment?

[Galron]

If you haven't already. I really don't remember.

[Galron]

Spoiler:

I’m just going to claim
I’m a JOAT (neighborizer, vig, rber)

I’m just going to claim
I’m a JOAT (neighborizer, vig, rber)

Claim your actions please.

there’s another part of my role
I need to be attached to something to do actions.
I crumbed this a lot

Attach me to something and I’ll use my vig shot or neighborizer someone

Attach me to something and I’ll use my vig shot or neighborizer someone

If the person with the attach ability can safely claim it we could try to control this vig shot. Unclear if it could be executed in a pro-town way given that scum likely has the tools to interfere if they are targeted.

i dont want any more claims regarding this

if town can help, we protect them

t3

can you just attempt to submit an action and hope someone helps you?

you won't waste anything, right?

snomeone attaches me to something
then i can use all my actions 1shot

VOTE: T3
~C

VOTE: T3
SHEEEPPPPP

DO THE MECHANICALLY OPTIMAL PLAY AND ATTACH ME TO SMEONE AND LEASH MY VIG SHOT

I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT NO ONE IS ABLE TO ATTACH ME TO ANYTHING.
IF YOU ARE, PLEASE DO THE PRO-TOWN THING AND DO IT TONIGHT.

Okay, so T3's claim has stayed consistent, and he's been actively requesting attachment from out of the gate. I gave him something else that wouldn't be helpful to scum even if it were used I don't think -- T3 did you use that btw?

I'm not seeing the reason for limming T3.

[Galron]

Okay, so T3's claim has stayed consistent, and he's been actively requesting attachment from out of the gate. I gave him something else that wouldn't be helpful to scum even if it were used I don't think -- T3 did you use that btw?

i mean, is claim consistency really a pro town thing? i think it's pretty damn marginal

who did you shoot T3?

Idunno for some reason I expect T3 not to be consistent.

[Galron]

Now feels like a good time to popcorn

Night actions or role claiming?

I was thinnking role claiming but if Deimos is right about the WB PoE, that can wait until T3 or Enchant are flipped.

[Galron]

Enchant's done dick, and I don't remember what I felt about Gamma. T3 has just begged to be attached and done no sorting. Heads or tails I guess.

VOTE: t3

[Galron]

We should just all claim. I gave you the beers but that's just a fruit vendor mechanic. My main thing is grafter. I visit someone one night, drop off a vegetable and grab a copy of one of their powers. Next night I visit someone else, give them a vegetable and the power that I copied from the first player. N1 I targeted datisi, N2 t3, so t3 got one of darisi's powers. I gave it to t3 bc he asked to be attached to something and I thought that may be it, and at that point I didn't sr him. Turns out it would've been harmless if t3 had been scum anyway. N3 I didn't visit anyone bc we were split up and I was dumb not realizing it was N3. N4 I visited glb for no reason in particular. N5 I visited vp baltar bc I tr him and figured he could be trusted with whatever I copied from glb. And of course last night I visited Taly, so unless Taly received something more than beets, if I visit someone tonight they will get a copy of one of Taly's powers. At least I presume that's the way it works, the one I took from glb I think should have gone to Baltar and then died with him, but I'm not sure so I'll ask RC for confirmation.

[Galron]

So you can kill me if you want bc it's not confirmable that I have anything to Baltar and I fumbled N3. I reckon we'll still win though.

[Galron]

Sakura and Taly are my only two town reads rn.

[Galron]

So it's glb or ydra then

[Galron]

VOTE: glb

[Galron]

I want to play Skyrim.

[Galron]

Lol he refused to answer my question too

[Galron]

Going to re-read Taly

[Galron]

I fully admit to being a lazy fuck. That's not a gotcha where I'm concerned.

[Galron]

I don't think Taly is mech clear. Neither am I. He's just been a strong town read.

[Galron]

UNVOTE:

[Galron]

Send like Taly would've voted glb there. I think I'm wifoming myself.

[Galron]

Fuck I gotta read this. I'm lost now.

[Galron]

Where the fuck is Deimos

[Galron]

Lol. That flew right over my head..

[Galron]

I'm an idiot

[Galron]

No. I'm just lost.

[Galron]

He is still listed as alive in post 0. Is that just n not updated?

[Galron]

Okay I get it now. I really am just fucking clueless

[Galron]

And he was in yesterday's VCs

[Galron]

Deimos

is Mason btw, was with

Clem

This bothers me

[Galron]

This game has veered further into bastard territory than past games, but still isn't a bastard game in the sense of mod lies or jesters.

[Galron]

Anything uPick: Votecount 6.300

T3 (4): Taly, Good Luck Buddy, Deimos27, Galron
Gypyx (0):

Sakura Hana

(0):
Galron (0):
Good Luck Buddy (0):
Enchant (0):
Deimos27 (0):
Taly (0):
Ydrasse (0):

Not Voting: Gypyx, Sakura Hana, Ydrasse, T3, Enchant

With 9 alive it's 5 to lim.

The day will end in (expired on 2022-01-04 11:00:00).

Deimos is playing from the DeadThread.

Okay I'm not nuts.

[Galron]

Goddammit rc how many hoops are there

[Galron]

Is it just Deimos, and he and clemency/baltar were not aligned? Baltar flipped Deimos. Deimos never for. That was baltar's role card, not Deimos's.

[Galron]

Or maybe I've done gone aluminum foil gang bang here.

[Galron]

If I'm going to stick my toe in I should prolly just jump in and vote Deimos. But no one is around to help me think this through and I know I've got at least four other town, maybe 5 to help me.

Pedit.. yes I know. That's what's messing with me. What happens if we Lim Deimos? Did it hurt anything?

[Galron]

Where the fuck is Deimos

I can help with that.

As you can see here, he is in the dead thread.

I can see RC rubbing his hands just waiting for this.

[Galron]

VOTE: Deimos

We have to test this. Deimos is obviously still playing, but from the Dead Thread. If Deimos is
Town he's getting wifomed to hell and back and we can't trust his vote. And then there's the possibility that he and baltar were unaligned masons and he's just scum.

[Galron]

RC just beetlejuiced that question like he was standing right next to me

[Galron]

It's possible Deimos now has one of your powers glb.

[Galron]

No need to shit the thread up with VCs or anything.

[Galron]

Np

[Galron]

The coup d'état is working.

[Galron]

I'm not seeing the reason for limming T3.

We know there is scum in Western Block from the fact there was an nk (we no longer know this of EB because SS died).

Still alive from WB:
T3/GLB/Enchant/Taly/Deimos

I am conftown through VP
GLB/Taly are locktown atp
Leaves simple PoE through limming T3 + Enchant

Why didn't Deimos have me in the PoE?

[Galron]

Nvm. I was Soviet.

[Galron]

I gotta look at the blocks again

[Galron]

I want deimos to vote.

[Galron]

VP Baltar was both a mason and in a hood. So was in the hood with him, and was Deimos there also?

[Galron]

E-1 already? Fuck. Okay. Don't hammer until I at least town case myself please. Or if you don't think that matters (anyone of you) let me know because this game is torridly fucked, and I'd rather not read through it if I'm just going to be hammered like a spike in the Continental Railroad if it's not going to do me any good.

You too Deimos.

[Galron]

because this game is torridly fucked

What do you mean by this?

I'm not scum and can't make a case on anyone who is. We've got a player voting from the Dead Thread. And RC is going to end up winning this game.

[Galron]

Yes.

[Galron]

Scandalous

[Galron]

wtf mod telling me to claim when i already did

[Galron]

wwait

is deimos actually dead


Deimos27 Nov 06, 07:44pm Dec 22, 03:56pm 5 days 7 hours 439

he hasnt posted in days and no prod but it says he's alive on the first page so uh

wtf

Duh

[Galron]

The only hammer of accept rn is Finn Deimos

[Galron]

I don't think I was at e-1 Taly; we were wrong. I think I am now though. Sakura, Taly and Deimos. GLB has a vote down on RC. Ydra's voting for GLB.

[Galron]

oof

[Galron]

gga

[Galron]

I thought I had a slim chance of carrying, but this plist wrecked me.

[Galron]

NK15's role is outside of the typical scope of one of my games but I'm reasonably happy with how it turned out;

This was my favorite part and I was actually sad he got killed.

I though this role was pretty neat too.

[Galron]

I choose me! (Self-Targeting): You compulsively target yourself every night in the game, in the same way you chose to pick yourself.
Friendly! (Friendly Neighbour): Your target will learn that you are town-aligned.

this is the most hilarious role I've ever seen

Poor toucan.

[Galron]

Like Deimos, I had alarm bells when asked whether to pray for you, and I should've thought about it a bit longer before responding. But you deserved the win the way you played regardless. You were exceptional.

[Galron]

oh
oh my
okay i got completeely crushed

I gave you part of datisi's role, but you wanted more.

[Galron]

So the delayed entry wasn't why 30% of us didn't get the game start pm?