KTaNE [game over!]

Andante · Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:33 am

fire is e-1

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:27 am

FROGSTER IS MAFIA. IGNORE ANYTHING HE SAYS HERE. He Refused to even attempt to solve the bomb last night and was messing around. catboi did claim the IC thing last night, and frogster instead refused to solve, and basically claimed maf in that hood

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:28 am

VOTE: Frogsterking

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:30 am

HEAL: Bell

There's a lot of people who should NOT be experts tonight, Bell expert is a safe bet though

Only 3 experts tonight?

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:31 am

In post 2194, VP Baltar wrote:Why did he refuse? Wtf?

"idk if I can trust catboi" and catboi literally claimed that he bacame a town IC after defusing a bomb..

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:31 am

500+ posts in that hood... we solved, catboi's solve is there too, I'm on mobile so one of the other 2 can say stuff. but andres and greeting are town. pretty dang certain

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:33 am

In post 2200, VP Baltar wrote:So catboi made himself defuser?

no that was maf's doing

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:34 am

I wanna know why VP lived in hood 2... that's what I'm curious about...

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:37 am

In post 2208, Greeting wrote:
catboi
outed his role in our PT and
Frogsterking
outright refused to solve and did everything in his power to sabotage the process, disregarding any relevant points raised and attempting to derail the PT in any possible way he could.

catboi
's role claim was an
extremely
improbable one to make for scum, because it can be verified almost immediately. If we bomb solved, he would have been confirmed. If the bomb exploded, his role would be revealed in the flip. It makes zero sense as town to not believe it.

Frogsterking
refused to even provide any answer to the puzzle.

In these circumstances this is basically outing himself as scum.

I confirm all this is truth!

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:39 am

In post 2209, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2205, Andante wrote:I wanna know why VP lived in hood 2... that's what I'm curious about...
We basically thought it was more likely VP was put there by scum for us to kill a townie and get another NK

More likely than scum!vp putting himself in there to wifom us since that's a huge risk with me and pooky in the thread

Yeah, that was definitely our thinking for why VP got sent, kinda assumed he'd just be dead regardless though lol

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:39 am

In my solve, my MOST 2 confident SRs are Frogster (obv) and Strange, and I'm pretty sure Dwlee/Mist are the partners

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:40 am

In post 2214, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2208, Greeting wrote:
catboi
outed his role in our PT and
Frogsterking
outright refused to solve and did everything in his power to sabotage the process, disregarding any relevant points raised and attempting to derail the PT in any possible way he could.

catboi
's role claim was an
extremely
improbable one to make for scum, because it can be verified almost immediately. If we bomb solved, he would have been confirmed. If the bomb exploded, his role would be revealed in the flip. It makes zero sense as town to not believe it.

Frogsterking
refused to even provide any answer to the puzzle.

In these circumstances this is basically outing himself as scum.
but if he were scum, why wouldn't he just pretend to give the correct solution to the bomb and sabotage silently?

why isn't he just a VI

he was derailing the PT and causing confusion on purpose. he is maf.

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:40 am

In post 2214, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2208, Greeting wrote:
catboi
outed his role in our PT and
Frogsterking
outright refused to solve and did everything in his power to sabotage the process, disregarding any relevant points raised and attempting to derail the PT in any possible way he could.

catboi
's role claim was an
extremely
improbable one to make for scum, because it can be verified almost immediately. If we bomb solved, he would have been confirmed. If the bomb exploded, his role would be revealed in the flip. It makes zero sense as town to not believe it.

Frogsterking
refused to even provide any answer to the puzzle.

In these circumstances this is basically outing himself as scum.
but if he were scum, why wouldn't he just pretend to give the correct solution to the bomb and sabotage silently?

why isn't he just a VI

he was derailing the PT and causing confusion on purpose. he is maf.

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:40 am

In post 2214, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2208, Greeting wrote:
catboi
outed his role in our PT and
Frogsterking
outright refused to solve and did everything in his power to sabotage the process, disregarding any relevant points raised and attempting to derail the PT in any possible way he could.

catboi
's role claim was an
extremely
improbable one to make for scum, because it can be verified almost immediately. If we bomb solved, he would have been confirmed. If the bomb exploded, his role would be revealed in the flip. It makes zero sense as town to not believe it.

Frogsterking
refused to even provide any answer to the puzzle.

In these circumstances this is basically outing himself as scum.
but if he were scum, why wouldn't he just pretend to give the correct solution to the bomb and sabotage silently?

why isn't he just a VI

he was derailing the PT and causing confusion on purpose. he is maf.

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:42 am

In post 2218, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2212, Frogsterking wrote:This conclusion about the roles is based on Andnate hard claiming her role in the hood which is clearly a scum aligned PR role that seems to fire on even nights, and andres has the same thing except his fires on odd nights, which is why on N1 andres was in the hood and catboi was switched.
?? I thought andres claimed simple doctor

I'm confused

Frogster is maf intentionally going to cause confusion here.. Andres wasn't votes in as a bomb expert, catboi was... maf messed with it, he's trying to tell you andres did that. I claimed in the hood, so he's yeah.. trying to maximize confusion

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:43 am

lmaooo wooo look at that folks! frogster claiming he was with 3 maf lmao

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:43 am

I'm like 99% certain the team is Frogster/Strange/Dwlee/Mistyx

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:45 am

In post 2234, Cephrir wrote:what the hell is this bullshit

welcome to the fun we had in our PT...

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:45 am

DON'T FORGET ABOUT HEALING EXPERTS BEFORE WE VOTE OUT FROGSTER

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:46 am

I strongly TR Bell, Bell as an expert seems good

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:47 am

I do NOT want Strange/Dwlee/Mist as experts, catboi had a larger poe than me, I'll go find that

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:48 am

In post 2245, Cephrir wrote:i feel like frog is going to flip town but it really doesn't matter. this clown needs to get out of our mafia game either way

there is no way... no POSSIBLE way

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:50 am

Ok, Summarizing catboi's for yall here

Townreads, strongest to weakest: Andante, Andres, Greeting, Bell, VP Baltar, Menalque, GuiltyLion, Pooky, Enchant

Null Reads: Titus, Cephrir, CSF, Mistyx

Scum Reads: Frogsterking, dwlee, StrangeMatter, Malakittens

so with that, I'll

HEAL: Enchant
HEAL: GuiltyLion

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:51 am

In post 2251, Cephrir wrote:HEAL: bell
HEAL: vp baltar
HEAL: dwlee

VOTE: frog

andres is still scum though

I do not want dwlee as an expert. I strongly SR dwlee

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:52 am

HEAL: VP

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:52 am

In post 2251, Cephrir wrote:HEAL: bell
HEAL: vp baltar
HEAL: dwlee

VOTE: frog

andres is still scum though

personally, I do NOT want dwlee as an expert... I don't TR Dwlee...

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:53 am

day is gonna get hammered so fast at this rate.. town needs to make sure they heal folks..

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:53 am

In post 2263, Cephrir wrote:okay

HURT: dwlee
HEAL: guiltylion, i guess

night 3 bomb is going to be scum city but whatever

isn't the rule just you can't have it consecutive nights? so N1 people can go again n3?

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:54 am

In post 2267, Greeting wrote:
In post 2260, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2252, Greeting wrote:I strongly encourage you to ignore whatever
Frog
is saying and follow me,
Andante
,
Andresvmb
and
catboi
onto this.
did catboi call frog scum too?
Yes, he was literally grilling me for disbelieving at first.

Andante
can confirm this.

catboi was 100% confident frog scum, yes

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:54 am

In post 2257, Andante wrote:Ok, Summarizing catboi's for yall here

Townreads, strongest to weakest: Andante, Andres, Greeting, Bell, VP Baltar, Menalque, GuiltyLion, Pooky, Enchant

Null Reads: Titus, Cephrir, CSF, Mistyx

Scum Reads: Frogsterking, dwlee, StrangeMatter, Malakittens

so with that, I'll

HEAL: Enchant
HEAL: GuiltyLion

@VP here was catboi's reads

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:55 am

In post 2272, StrangeMatter wrote:@Frogsterking. Why do you keep shading Andante?

Honestly if Frogs flips mafia here I think he spews Andante town here.

that's nice of you to say... in scum pt did frogs tell you how I have you as his partner? cause... based on this game, AND looking at meta, I'm 10000% certain you flip red too

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:56 am

In post 2276, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2268, Andante wrote:
In post 2263, Cephrir wrote:okay

HURT: dwlee
HEAL: guiltylion, i guess

night 3 bomb is going to be scum city but whatever
isn't the rule just you can't have it consecutive nights? so N1 people can go again n3?
i think we can't go again until n4

lol n3 is gonna be real fun then...

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:57 am

In post 2280, Cephrir wrote:btw mena was pretty town in our hood and said he wouldn't be here till tomorrow

any concerns from anyone in yall's hood? and like, what were solves looking like?

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:59 am

In post 2283, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2272, StrangeMatter wrote:@Frogsterking. Why do you keep shading Andante?

Honestly if Frogs flips mafia here I think he spews Andante town here.
Because she hard claimed in the hood a role like this:

On an even night, if she is the defuser, she can switch herself with one of the experts in the hood.

This role makes no sense as a town PR role because scum are the ones who choose the defuser. So how is that a town power role, what if she's never made the defuser?

The scum team is called "GB Infiltrators" and this is clearly a role designed to infiltrate. She made mistakes when claiming the mechanics on the role, and andres was guiding her on it, as though he knew how it worked, making me think he's an even night version.

right.. cause with a role like that, town!you would out it here for everyone... when tonight is an even night

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:00 am

In post 2284, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:we didn't talk nearly as much as you guys did in group 2

no one gave a readslist except VP i think

and also Andres scum was a consensus read

see, we were thinking andres got thrown to group 1 like that to be SRed, andres in the hood was pretty good, catboi and I were thinking andres town for sure... like, frogster was just annoying the whole time... Greeting had the time zone difference so wasn't there too much, but was there enough and actively tried to solve with catboi

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:02 am

In post 2290, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2282, Andante wrote:
In post 2280, Cephrir wrote:btw mena was pretty town in our hood and said he wouldn't be here till tomorrow
any concerns from anyone in yall's hood? and like, what were solves looking like?
pooky rolled in like "ok we're killing him obviously" but got talked out of it. im not sure if he was scum trying to cash in a free nightkill & realized it didn't look good, or if he was legit.

we spent most of our time talking about what the right action for us to take and less solving the game. i think yall probably trusted each other more than we did. i dont have tons of time to sumarize super well so im kinda going off what i recall. vp antagonized pooky pretty significantly kinda seemed like he wanted to die but idk he couldve been banking on that thought i guess

LOL that's exactly what I thought pooky would do tbh and hmm that doesn't sound too useful, but... yall solved the bomb!! when if it failed I was 100% thinking it'd be on pooky, so that's actually super good.. and does make me think Frogster/Strange/Dwlee/Mist is 4/4

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:03 am

In post 2294, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2287, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2284, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:we didn't talk nearly as much as you guys did in group 2

no one gave a readslist except VP i think

and also Andres scum was a consensus read
In the PT hood last night, everyone instantly assumed andres was town and no one questions at all why he was there. THis was like the third thing that made me IMMEDIATELY suspicious.
that's p weird if true. we were on "ok so andres is obviously scum" when we noticed the switcheroo

uhh actually.. it was instantly "why the heck is catboi defusing the bomb..."

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:04 am

In post 2297, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2292, Frogsterking wrote:
@VP

After you see my role flip shoot Andante, andres or Greeting

@All

On D3, after you see my flip, and the flip from whichever one VP shot, the other two here in this list are almost mech-confirmed to be scum.

And in N2, if creepy!Andante shows up magically in the hood making wifom arguments, OR anyone else on this list for that matter, do NOT defuse the bomb, it's ALL wifom.

lmao you keep calling me creepy andante... why??

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:08 am

In post 2301, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2291, Andante wrote:see, we were thinking andres got thrown to group 1 like that to be SRed, andres in the hood was pretty good, catboi and I were thinking andres town for sure... like, frogster was just annoying the whole time... Greeting had the time zone difference so wasn't there too much, but was there enough and actively tried to solve with catboi
What did Andres say? I want to know what original thoughts he had, and why you tr'd him

Also I don't understand. If scum wanted Andres to be SR'ed, why wouldn't they make Andres a defuser?

umm well first off his very first post in the PT was like, really towny lol (idk what's even allowed to be quoted or what.. cause frogster quoted word for word something I said...)
but hood from andres basically started like "yeah catboi is town, lets solve the bomb" and LOTS of words lol uhhhh was against just massclaiming cause he didn't trust all, which I totally understood. Frogs, while calling catboi maf claimed macho cop.. sooo that's whatever. Has he given his macho cop result here? nope. uhhh andres thought I was claiming scum when I claimed, umm overall andres seemed genuine and towny!!

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:09 am

that PT.. I'm just skimming it now, way too long to summarize like any of it.. yall have the important parts.. Frogster is confirmed

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:10 am

and I'm telling all of you, Strange is FOR SURE Frogster's partner

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:10 am

The more strange talks here the more obvious it is to me...

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:11 am

In post 2316, Dwlee99 wrote:Does Andante have a program to hide my posts or something

lol no, I'm just dealing with the important stuff, and I'm pretty sure you're maf, but not as certain as strange and frogs so yeah

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:11 am

HEY FROGSTER.... What happened to being macho cop?

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:15 am

In post 2322, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I think if you're town, frogs, it's more likely that your hood was all town

I'm not going to elaborate on this further at this time

Like, in the event frogs flips town... EVERYTHING about his play in the hood was anti town, like Greeting had the exact same doubts I did... "why would scum just not solve?" but by frogster doing what he did.. catboi and I were basing all of our reads around frogster!scum world cause, it just doesn't make sense for town to be like frogster was... like, why not go "oh yeah I'm town, now I'll help solve" no.. frogster did 0 solving and was constantly like "lol no rush! still have 2 days to solve the bomb" "lol no rush still have hours!!"

it's just like, we HAVE to lim frogster... there is no way anyone lives after that performance

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:16 am

And on another note, Strange is in scum meta!! I was looking at meta after SRing posts this game, and the performance here mirrors a past scum game, so Strange is for sure mafia

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:16 am

please let everyone check in before ending day

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:20 am

In post 2336, Frogsterking wrote:
~ once in the game, at twilight, if you have not been voted in as a bomb expert, you may make yourself be the bomb defuser for the night.
catboi NEVER claimed this in the thread.

he had no need? Frogster, what's your macho cop result?

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:22 am

In post 2340, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:wait frogster claimed macho cop?

in the PT yeah

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:22 am

In post 2342, Andante wrote:
In post 2340, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:wait frogster claimed macho cop?
in the PT yeah

the same PT he was calling catboi maf

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:30 am

In post 2351, Frogsterking wrote:then catboi shares the burden of responsibility,

LMAOOO right.. cause catboi refused to solve his own bomb...

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:33 am

We're not kidding yall when we say, Frogster was purposely trying to cause confusion and derail the solving that was happening.. like he posted here what he submitted as his "solve"

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:34 am

Cause this is what town submits in the final minutes to solve a bomb... the bolded part was what he submitted, with the image..

In post 2212, Frogsterking wrote:Until someone can confirm to me that role-changers are illegal in large themes, I believe catboi is a one-shot changeling-type role and Andante, andres and probably Greeting are the scum team. This conclusion about the roles is based on Andnate hard claiming her role in the hood which is clearly a scum aligned PR role that seems to fire on even nights, and andres has the same thing except his fires on odd nights, which is why on N1 andres was in the hood and catboi was switched.

And I hardclaim responsibility for catboi's death by killing him like this 3 minutes before the deadline:

I command catboi to defuse the BOMB by:

Tapdancing, and singing the "The Imagination Song" from Southpark. Lyrics:

Imagination
Imagination
Imagination!

Imagination
Imagination
Imagination
Imagination

Imagination
Imagination
Imagination

Imagination
Imagination
Imagination

Imagination
Imagination
Imagination
Imaginatiooooooooooon!

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:35 am

In post 2360, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:HEAL: Bell
HEAL: VP Baltar
HEAL: GuiltyLion

I'm kind of sad I didn't get to be in the PT with Catboi he finally trusted me ;_;

VOTE: FrogsterKing

I'm SURE catboi would've rather been in your PT lmao ours was terrible...

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:36 am

In post 2364, Greeting wrote:
Did you know…

…that any single word
Andresvmb
said in the PT…

…was 10 times townier than the whole of
Frogsterking
’s entire performance in the thread?

This is VERY true.. Andres was VERY towny in that PT, like, yes. Andres is town. for sure!!!

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:37 am

In post 2365, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I really have no words if Frogster is somehow town here holy shit

just wait till you see the PT lmaooo

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:37 am

mehh I'm down with it getting hammered lol I want frogs gone to stop spreading confusion

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:38 am

UNVOTE:
actually day can't end yet, I want titus thoughts

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:39 am

frogs definitely goes today though... but need some content from a few slots

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:39 am

In post 2378, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2374, Andante wrote:UNVOTE:
actually day can't end yet, I want titus thoughts
and GuiltyLion

yes

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:41 am

In post 2381, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2377, Frogsterking wrote:I think maybe catboi and I were TvT and we just clashed. He said a ton of AtE and never explained to me what an innocent child daredevil does and I thought he was full of shit.
I asked catboi to explain what an innocent child daredevil does and he just kept being sarcastic and saying all I had to do was defuse the bomb.

If he told me that HE MADE HIMSELF THE DEFUSER that would have put a very long ways toward believing what he was saying.

he DIDN'T MAKE HIMSELF THE DEFUSER, and he said that

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:42 am

ughhh I really hate this game at times....
VOTE: Frogster

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:42 am

dwlee is maf

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:49 am

In post 2400, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2390, GuiltyLion wrote:hey guys, what's going on in this thread
I may have messed up really bad, catboi claimed innocent child daredevil and wouldn't explain what it did and then we started clashing

@GL basically Frogster killed catboi in our hood. Frogster refused to defuse his part of the bomb, and kept derailing the PT and causing confusion (basically what he's doing here) and Frogster is the lim for today.

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:50 am

In post 2402, GuiltyLion wrote:nah but actually I've skimmed up, I'm fine with voting out Frogster, and he was the one who convinced me to re-evaluate on Strange so I'd currently sheep Andante on a partner read there too though I want to reread their ISO

VP Baltar probably town, still townreading Greeting/CSF/Andante/Menalque, Ceph seems town - everyone else not mentioned here I need to think about and I don't have a strong opinion

that's what I got in terms of thoughts so far. Dislike Dwlee playing for towncred like "I told you Frog was scum!", as if scum has never shaded/distanced a buddy before. Wasn't frogster a fairly consensus D1 townread, if anything it's slightly scummy to suspect a slot that had hoodwinked most of the rest of the thread, feel like Dwlee should know that

oh and my team read is Frog/Strange/Dwlee/Mist

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:50 am

In post 2405, Frogsterking wrote:frogster =
DATS Inc bomb
if no one saw

and wow @ innocent child daredevil being a real role

and we defuse you by voting you out? got it!

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:53 am

In post 2411, GuiltyLion wrote:I don't think we should be doing 4p team reads but I'm fine with Frog first and if that flips red moving onto Strange/Dwlee tomorrow

@Dwlee - can you point me to the case post(s)? Either post # or quote yourself is fine

lol that's what catboi told me too... hahahaha

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:58 am

In post 2419, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2414, Andante wrote:
In post 2411, GuiltyLion wrote:I don't think we should be doing 4p team reads but I'm fine with Frog first and if that flips red moving onto Strange/Dwlee tomorrow

@Dwlee - can you point me to the case post(s)? Either post # or quote yourself is fine
lol that's what catboi told me too... hahahaha

In post 2415, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2414, Andante wrote:
In post 2411, GuiltyLion wrote:I don't think we should be doing 4p team reads but I'm fine with Frog first and if that flips red moving onto Strange/Dwlee tomorrow

@Dwlee - can you point me to the case post(s)? Either post # or quote yourself is fine
lol that's what catboi told me too... hahahaha
Andante is this seriously been your town game this whole time?
I TRed catboi for his day play, how he was before that claim in the PT was not scummy at all, I didn't even care what he claimed. you can not tell me you scumread his 100+ posts of solving in that PT... like as I told you in the PT, you had NO REASON to think your read on catboi was better than literally everyone else. Everyone voted him in as an expert. they TRED HIM. so you thought "I SR catboi. everyone else is wrong. My read is better!!!" ??? yeah no. You not solving, for sure made catboi die. now, we have no way of knowing if someone solved their part wrong. so yeah I think you played terribly, and I'm voting you for it and that is that
Andante why would you just instantly believe an "innocent child daredevil" claim at face value?

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:59 am

In post 2427, Andante wrote:
In post 2419, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2414, Andante wrote:
In post 2411, GuiltyLion wrote:I don't think we should be doing 4p team reads but I'm fine with Frog first and if that flips red moving onto Strange/Dwlee tomorrow

@Dwlee - can you point me to the case post(s)? Either post # or quote yourself is fine
lol that's what catboi told me too... hahahaha

In post 2415, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2414, Andante wrote:
In post 2411, GuiltyLion wrote:I don't think we should be doing 4p team reads but I'm fine with Frog first and if that flips red moving onto Strange/Dwlee tomorrow

@Dwlee - can you point me to the case post(s)? Either post # or quote yourself is fine
lol that's what catboi told me too... hahahaha
Andante is this seriously been your town game this whole time?
Andante why would you just instantly believe an "innocent child daredevil" claim at face value?

I TRed catboi for his day play, how he was before that claim in the PT was not scummy at all, I didn't even care what he claimed. you can not tell me you scumread his 100+ posts of solving in that PT... like as I told you in the PT, you had NO REASON to think your read on catboi was better than literally everyone else. Everyone voted him in as an expert. they TRED HIM. so you thought "I SR catboi. everyone else is wrong. My read is better!!!" ??? yeah no. You not solving, for sure made catboi die. now, we have no way of knowing if someone solved their part wrong. so yeah I think you played terribly, and I'm voting you for it and that is that

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:00 am

In post 2430, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2424, VP Baltar wrote:Frog, do you accept now that catboi was town? Does that change your reads at all?
It's hard because I was SUPER deep in my tinfoil, like I was at the level I reached in the Bunnies game when I thought Math+Ari+Dats were the scum team.

I can definitely see Andante being town and being anxious which caused us both to act differently and FoS each other, and I can definitely see myself ego clashing with catboi, who DID NOT explain anything about his role other than demanding that I defuse them bomb.

what are you referring to that I was anxious about?? I was highly tilted by you, and still am...

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:01 am

In post 2431, GuiltyLion wrote:actually Frog scum almost certainly hard confirms everyone else in that hood as town right? Assuming he sacrificed himself to take out IC catboi, means there wasn't a better buddy who was worse positioned than he was to take the fall

based on the Andres and Greeting I saw, both of them are town

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:05 am

In post 2437, GuiltyLion wrote:It is kind of a mystery why Frog didn't do it in a more subtle fashion though? only thing I can guess is solely to ensure less attention to other buddies today?

I was convinced I was gonna die, someone said scum had a night kill N1, so I was like, oh... trading frogs for me and catboi.. I can see this... makes sense but now? who knows

Andante · Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:07 am

In post 2441, Greeting wrote:

Andante
, you should ignore him. Do not engage with him and do not legitimise whatever bs he's trying to produce now.

A player with a 2011 joindate does not allow an uncounterclaimed power role, which is easily verifiable to die and continuously derail the PT while being town. There is no tinfoil, just a pretty straightforward scumplay here.
Frogsterking
must go today and this is something that I will not let go. This is the elimination for today. Period.

ELIMINATE FROGSTERKING, IGNORE WHAT HE SAYS AND THAT'S IT.

Thank you for your attention.

hahaha ahhh I know!!! just like catboi told me 50 million times.. it's hard!! ok, just gotta ignore this!! frogs is too distracting!!

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:24 am

I find it interesting how Mena's recap of the hood is so different from the others... like, I've been kinda suspicious of pooky, and that's where in a T/T world with VP and Pooky, I assumed VP was going to die last night, but now I'm wondering why scum!Pooky would save a town!VP, the sudden weird "yeah let's heal DW!!" yesterday honestly could just be pooky scum for why it seemed so odd to me, idk!!! but both Ceph and CSF gave off Pooky towny, then Mena is like "yeah pooky wasn't towny" so ehhh idk!!!

I'm LAUGHING so hard at frogster's claim... "all I have to do is live till day 5 to prove myself!!" you had no care about catboi living till D2 to prove himself... so why would you have till d5??

everyone has checked in, can frogster go bye bye now?

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:26 am

In post 2601, Andante wrote:I'm LAUGHING so hard at frogster's claim... "all I have to do is live till day 5 to prove myself!!" you had no care about catboi living till D2 to prove himself... so why would you have till d5??

also, I'm not sure what's more clearing than an IC.... the fact you're not gonna die to a bomb? that's not even for sure a town role

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:32 am

VP can you stop tunneling Andres? I'm pretty dang confident he's town after last night

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:32 am

why should pooky be lock town to me?

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:34 am

cause that whole "why would maf send VP to the group that wants to kill him" argument? it's exactly for that argument... like think about it, if someone is gonna be an easy lim, why send them to a bomb group anyways??

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:34 am

idk it's whatever, kill frogster and move on people

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:41 am

lol sharing catboi's reads... I just gave the reads list so far

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:45 am

oh Bell read was interesting!! and I think worth noting... I just got reminded.
Catboi was like: Bell is likely town, I questioned it, eventually agreed. So we're like "Bell is town"
and Greeting, disagreed with the Bell TR... I'm not calling Greeting maf for it, but I did find it weird, didn't strongly defend bell, but made it known he disagreed with our bell TR

(I feel like this is worth bringing up)

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:46 am

In post 2614, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2612, Andante wrote:lol sharing catboi's reads... I just gave the reads list so far
Yeah but I think sharing the rationale is helpful too. Because catboi can’t be expected to have everything right. So maybe sharing the reasons is helpful. Like I wouldn’t just sheep a strong player all the time, but certainly if their reasoning was solid I would trust it.

yeah, I was gonna ask mena which rationale was most wanted cause mena is the only one seeming to care, but you can feel free to share it all lol it's just a lot

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:59 am

In post 2623, Bell wrote:Has everyone had a chance to post?

yes

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:00 am

In post 2590, Titus wrote:I'll catch up this evening hopefully.

Would like a counter for VCA.

but uhhh not sure if I count this as posting... so maybe we wait more...

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:05 am

In post 2627, Enchant wrote:
In post 2626, Andante wrote:
In post 2590, Titus wrote:I'll catch up this evening hopefully.

Would like a counter for VCA.
but uhhh not sure if I count this as posting... so maybe we wait more...
VOTE: Frog

Nah.

this puts frog at e-1 right? so whoever wants hammer, take it

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:06 am

oh jk it's e-2 my bad

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:21 am

LMAOOO I BELIEVED THAT WAS E2 THOUGH.. DON'T TRUST ME!!!!

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:01 am

I'm not weeping after your flip lmao

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:05 am

In post 2689, Andresvmb wrote:catboi had mixed feelings about Menalque (thought their interactions with me looked like Town probing, but didn’t like the speed of the hammer). Didn’t see any clearing interactions with Frog. Underscored that they could be looking down on their Scum game a bit after PYP. For the record, I do feel somewhat positive about Menalque overall, but agree with the comment on the hammer not being a great look. Having said that, I don’t think the execution would have landed anywhere else, so I don’t know that I can fault Menalque too much for that.

Mena is town

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:08 am

lol
everyone: "I wanna hammer frogs!!!"
**frogs chilling on e-1**
no one wants it...

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:12 am

I just wanna see this flip, and I'll go from there lol

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:12 am

In post 2703, Menalque wrote:Wait! I take that back, did titus answer me yet

to my knowledge, all Titus did was "I'll be back later"

Andante · Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:29 am

what's rule of 3?

Andante · Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:06 am

VOTE: Strange

Andante · Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:43 pm

Strange is mafia

Andante · Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:58 pm

not a result, just my read I strongly believe in

Andante · Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:00 pm

not gonna lie, town frog doing what he did wasting my effort in that PT, has completely just made me not want to care. Strang maf is the only thing I'm like absolutely certain in right now. and uhh yeah probably won't be here tomorrow

Andante · Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:11 pm

I may SR strange... but that's a read I can agree with (for some different reasoning though)

VOTE: Dwlee

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:46 am

yeah umm VP having 2 bombs worries me tbh, and going "frog had value!!! must read into it!!" is not something I really want to deal with... frog just trolled around in the PT why are you implying all 3 of me greeting andres lied about what went on??

But I don't think VP is town, and that's why his groups keep successfully disarming bombs

VOTE: VP

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:05 am

Cause if VP is town, that' makes like all of Pooky/Mistyx/CSF/Ceph town, and that's not something I can believe...

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:34 am

In post 2872, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2864, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2862, Andante wrote:yeah umm VP having 2 bombs worries me tbh, and going "frog had value!!! must read into it!!" is not something I really want to deal with... frog just trolled around in the PT why are you implying all 3 of me greeting andres lied about what went on??
Uh...this is not what I said at all.
You going to reply to this andante?

I also find your reads incredibly stagnant. You were on me D1, then you found a reason to get off me with frogster, now you're back on me. I think your strange vote lacks inspiration (and conviction since you voted with her like two seconds later).

I really don't know who you actually think is scum and why you think that.

nah

how are my reads stagnant? lmao I had like 10 posts on my strange read in the PT

idk either

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:11 am

sure
VOTE: Mala

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:57 pm

idk what's happening

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:01 pm

I... I.... am.... weak...

UNVOTE: Mala

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:04 pm

VOTE: Mala
lmao no that ISO is so bad. I am strong!

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:07 pm

I was super confident in my strange read, but the way strange said what they said, I kinda doubt that read I had. Dwlee/Pooky interactions feel odd but idk what I think about it, and uhh yeah! Mala ISO is just.. lol nope it's just prodging tbh

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:08 pm

town can openwolf!! it's ok!! AWOOOOOO

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:08 pm

In post 2965, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2963, Andante wrote:I was super confident in my strange read, but the way strange said what they said, I kinda doubt that read I had. Dwlee/Pooky interactions feel odd but idk what I think about it, and uhh yeah! Mala ISO is just.. lol nope it's just prodging tbh
dwlee just trying to make me look bad when they inevitably flip scum

but what if you're the red one?

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:10 pm

well... we shall see....

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:10 pm

Pooky, do we have any ideas for maf outside Mala?

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:11 pm

In post 2970, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2952, Dwlee99 wrote:If Pooky is scum his buddies are Andres/Andante/VPB you heard it here first
r u in a scum PT with me dear?

If Pooky is scum, at least one of Greeting/Andres probably scum, no one wanted to engage with my Pooky!scum thoughts in that pt...

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:11 pm

Pooky, why did you agree to save VP? after saying how he was for sure scum D1?

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:12 pm

In post 2974, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:probly 4 of these 5:

Dwlee99
Enchant
Titus
Mala
Strange

hmmm that's honestly not bad...

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:12 pm

we talk about mala.... mala shows up.... sus

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:15 pm

Mala, surely you have some SRs, could I hear some names?

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:17 pm

no reasoning needed for now, I just need SOMETHING from you please

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:17 pm

the top names you SR shows that you're at least following along, pretending to put in effort

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:21 pm

In post 2984, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2975, Andante wrote:Pooky, why did you agree to save VP? after saying how he was for sure scum D1?
well everyone else thought he was town and I didn't want to get blamed if he blew up and was town cuz then i'm dead next

also he yelled at me and I'm susceptible to AtE >.>

Mostly I don't think VPB has the guts to put himself into a bomb squad when I'm swearing up and down that I want to murder him and he knows I almost never change my mind because I'm stubborn as hell and tend to death-tunnel - I think it's more likely that scum set him up to make me want to blow him up and then I get elimmed on the day after for blowing him up.

Ahh ok, well.. now he knows for next time how to get you to change your mind lol

and, I'd like to believe mala!scum at least does something, like... frog's amazing town play... if this is also mala town?? like come on people

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:22 pm

Mala.. you were just here... you could've said you SRed someone in Pooky's list of 5 he just gave... ahhhhhh

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:23 pm

yeah same..

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:23 pm

means it's very likely you have the 4, but like, why is scum not killing??

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:25 pm

AYYYY SOME READS!!! ok but there's 4 scum, and you SR no one?

Andante · Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:32 pm

and you realize the less town we have, the more important each town voice is... not gonna try and force SRs from you tonight... I'd just prefer to hear them sooner rather than later

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:06 am

I agree with not yeeting VP here, blow him up at night if you want, but not a lim, but tbh we just need to yeet A maf to see what kind of abilities maf have

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:08 am

wait, is the frog lim being debated? lol frog 1000% had to go... Andres was in that pt too...

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:11 am

Hey Andres, you're simple doc right? who have you been saving?

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:11 am

In post 3093, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3087, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 3085, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3083, Andresvmb wrote:It’s the only player that made sense for me to protect out of that group mechanically.
I'm not following what you mean mechanically?
I have a modifier remember?
Hmm, ok. I forgot yall went mass insanity and full claimed because frog told you to.

I claimed cause people were saying no way town has bomb roles or whatever. no one was like "frog told me to claim? I will claim"

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:12 am

what if no kill last night cause Andres saved Bell who was the kill?

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:13 am

like, I'm not even sure what is being argues right now, but I'm not limming Andres

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:14 am

In post 3101, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 3097, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3092, Andante wrote:wait, is the frog lim being debated? lol frog 1000% had to go... Andres was in that pt too...
Andres is only defending it to himself....no clue why
Because Frog pushed two players D1 most loudly - fire and I. That’s why.

ok uhh I missed the entire first part of this... I SRed frogs d1, and judging by frog's play after catboi went "I'm an IC" I'm not sure I trust frogs reads...

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:14 am

lets yeet mala!!!

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:18 am

also, maf I want a bomb pleaseeee

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:19 am

In post 3105, Andresvmb wrote:I don’t think we should rush today.

it's not rushing if you're confident they're maf. no point in waiting 2 weeks to reach the same conclusion. do you have a better idea than Mala? cause I'm not touching VP here

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:21 am

In post 3108, Greeting wrote:Besides, Malakittens is like the too obvious choice. They have done nothing in the game

do you really think all 4 scum are deepwolves?

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:26 am

In post 3108, Greeting wrote:Besides, Malakittens is like the too obvious choice. They have done nothing in the game and barely even posted, scumreading someone for inactivity, lurking and lack of reads is the classic.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

Here's mala in another game, busy town... sure they don't have all these reads there, but they were busy, STILL gave some thoughts.. I had to force thoughts last night... I don't believe this is town mala

and cause I know you'll love it, Titus is another lurker I'm not a fan of, like, after mala that's probably where I'm looking

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:27 am

In post 3110, StrangeMatter wrote:
In post 3109, Andante wrote:
In post 3108, Greeting wrote:Besides, Malakittens is like the too obvious choice. They have done nothing in the game
do you really think all 4 scum are deepwolves?
That seems like an unreasonable conclusion to be making but with this playerlist I would expect there to be at least one deepwolf.

yeah same, but all 4? like, saying mala can't be maf cause mala isn't trying?? that's not a legit read... Greeting is like implying all scum have to be deepwolves.. they almost never are, definitely 2-3 could be, but all 4? very doubtful

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:55 am

In post 3121, VP Baltar wrote:In my experience, if you don't like a wagon, run someone else up and convince people to back you. Complaining is Zzzz and you could be scum shading a wagon on your buddy.

yaasss!! if someone hates the current one, make a good case for someone else and people likely flip, like there's 4 whole mafs here..

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:55 am

In post 3124, StrangeMatter wrote:Fire and Frogs were wagons that just feel way too convenient pushes.

Frogs had to go... why are you saying frogs was too convinient? Frogs, knowing catboi was an IC, refused to solve..

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:57 am

Like, Strange, if you hated our picks for other wagons, you're more than welcome to suggest a better one... can't just go "yall picked bad d1 and d2.." like, what did you actively do to stop those lims? nothing? then can't hate on them

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:17 am

In post 3132, StrangeMatter wrote:Sorry, I'm having a miserable week. But I mean I wanted the elimination to be somewhere else with the Day 1 Elimination (but as it turns out the person I wanted was wrong anyways WOOO) I just felt like the elimination was a stupid day 1 choice. And while yes I was one of the pushers on Frogs, but looking back I can't help it but say was the Frogsterking not at some level convenient for people to jump onto, especially as scum?

was maf supposed to slam the brakes on a town wagon though? like, I guess we could look at d1 frogs.. that everyone healed.. I didn't TR frogs D1, and I know a lot of others didn't, I'm not searching 100 pages for people who "knew frogs was town" though, cause frogs was doing his own thing... if he had been even the slightest bit townier, I'd say maybe interactions or something would say something... but ehhh I wouldn't even be surprised if all town voted out frogs yesterday tbh

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:20 am

I needed a distraction, but this isn't really working lol ahhhhh my dog is at the vet and I'm just stressed about that (she should be fine, just a spay... but still), I guess I'll just let yall continue with whatever, and I'll show up again later like "what are yall arguing??" ok gg. if someone has a better case than mala I'm all ears, but I need more than just like 2 sentences

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:21 am

In post 3136, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2725, Datisi wrote:
vote count 2.final

with
17
votes in play, it took
9
to make a decision.

day 2 ended.

3
players who have the most nominations will be bomb experts on n2.

execution:

Frogsterking [9]:
Greeting, VP Baltar, Cephrir, StrangeMatter, Mistyx, Andante, Enchant, PookyTheMagicalBear, Andresvmb
[HAMMER]

Dwlee99 [1]:
Frogsterking

not voting [7]:
GuiltyLion, Dwlee99, Cat Scratch Fever, Menalque, Titus, Malakittens, Bell

bomb expert nominations:

Bell [10]:
Andante, VP Baltar, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, PookyTheMagicalBear, Mistyx, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Menalque, Andresvmb

VP Baltar [9]:
Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, Andante, PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Greeting, Menalque, Andresvmb

GuiltyLion [7]:
Andante, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, VP Baltar, Enchant, Menalque, Andresvmb

Enchant [6]:
VP Baltar, Andante, Cat Scratch Fever, GuiltyLion, Greeting, Menalque

Dwlee99 [3]:
PookyTheMagicalBear, Cephrir, Enchant

Mistyx [1]:
Enchant

Titus [1]:
Enchant

Malakittens [1]:
Enchant

Strangematter [1]:
Enchant

not nominating [6]:
Frogsterking, Dwlee99, Titus, Malakittens, StrangeMatter, Bell

ineligible to be nominated:
Andante, Greeting, Andresvmb, Frogsterking, Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, Cephrir

mod notes:

Menalque v/la weekends.

the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.
Strange's argument is also funny when I wasn't even on the frog wagon

looking at the people on frog, I'm pretty certain no more than 1 maf is on that frogs wagon, could be no maf there, so I wouldn't argue that for town cred lol

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:22 am

dwlee I need to interact more with you tbh, you're pretty easy to read, but like, I don't think we've interacted at all this game

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:22 am

that's a later problem though

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:24 am

In post 299, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 295, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 293, Dwlee99 wrote:Btw, we can unvote someone for defuser if we want somehow? I presume?
Hurt tags, assuming you mean bomb expert
Yes ty
In post 296, VP Baltar wrote:Dwlee, why is andante scum?
She just is I get this vibe

1.) She's always scum
2.) Seriously read her post she's just scum
3.) Pooky is scum for not also realizing she is scum yet and killing her

ahh yes I see why I decided to just ignore you lol

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:25 am

see the problem is, I wasted so much freaking effort in bomb pt, cause frogs thought it was funny to just claim maf

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:27 am

like, frogs going "here's my poe, (list of 19 people with frogs as #1)" yeah... town... right... but I put so much effort into reading all that, that I'm kinda just dead. My case on Strange I'm pretty sure held up regardless of any of the others, mist and dw were interactions based, I'm doubting my strange case, so ehh mala and titus look like fine places for a vote

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:27 am

In post 3145, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3137, Andante wrote:my dog is at the vet and I'm just stressed about that (she should be fine, just a spay... but still)
She will be ok!

<3

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:46 am

w i l d

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:52 am

In post 3155, Greeting wrote:
In post 3140, Andante wrote:dwlee I need to interact more with you tbh, you're pretty easy to read
What???

What's the question?

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:54 am

In post 3158, Greeting wrote:
In post 3156, Andante wrote:
In post 3155, Greeting wrote:
In post 3140, Andante wrote:dwlee I need to interact more with you tbh, you're pretty easy to read
What???
What's the question?
I'm just utterly confused how you can find them of all players easy to read.

Well, people you've played a lot of games with tend to be easier to read...

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:55 am

In post 3159, Andante wrote:
In post 3158, Greeting wrote:
In post 3156, Andante wrote:
In post 3155, Greeting wrote:
In post 3140, Andante wrote:dwlee I need to interact more with you tbh, you're pretty easy to read
What???
What's the question?
I'm just utterly confused how you can find them of all players easy to read.
Well, people you've played a lot of games with tend to be easier to read...

literally why I was asking people a million times in PT for their thoughts on Pooky... not quite sure how it's shocking

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:56 am

In post 3161, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3160, Andante wrote:
In post 3159, Andante wrote:
In post 3158, Greeting wrote:
In post 3156, Andante wrote:
In post 3155, Greeting wrote:
In post 3140, Andante wrote:dwlee I need to interact more with you tbh, you're pretty easy to read
What???
What's the question?
I'm just utterly confused how you can find them of all players easy to read.
Well, people you've played a lot of games with tend to be easier to read...
literally why I was asking people a million times in PT for their thoughts on Pooky... not quite sure how it's shocking
I'm town - straight from the source itself!

mhm right...

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:58 am

Koba calls you a deepwolf? lmao

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:02 am

In post 2296, Dwlee99 wrote:Andante TALK TO ME

In post 2316, Dwlee99 wrote:Does Andante have a program to hide my posts or something

Dwlee, my issue with TRing you here though is just, you have been so focussed on me.. skimming your ISO it's like, "ANDANTE TALK TO MEEEEE" and not a whole lot of solving, and that makes me more inclined to SR you

Pooky is kinda sketchy... idk.. cause I could see him as town, but he could also definitely be maf... I haven't seen any of the fun pagetop counters or whatever yet... hahaha not someone I'm yeeting here though

I don't think you 2 are maf together though, so there's that

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:02 am

In post 3174, Enchant wrote:I am easy to townread, so Ceph is scum for calling me scum.

easiest TR here... how dare anyone call you scum

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:03 am

In post 3172, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i don't think i've ever read a dwlee scum game where they posted a single complicated thought in my life

yeah same lol that's exactly why I'm just like "I'm not TRing them..." half the ISO is literally about me... like...

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:04 am

MALA AND DWLEE COULD BE PARTNERS!!! MALA ONLY HAD COMMENTS ON ME TOO

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:04 am

In post 3183, Enchant wrote:
In post 3181, Andante wrote:
In post 3174, Enchant wrote:I am easy to townread, so Ceph is scum for calling me scum.
easiest TR here... how dare anyone call you scum
Exactly.

I invested in this game more than anyone else, why no one value that.

I value it!!!!

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:06 am

In post 3184, Andante wrote:MALA AND DWLEE COULD BE PARTNERS!!! MALA ONLY HAD COMMENTS ON ME TOO

ok no, it wasn't mala... Strange maybe?

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:07 am

yeah.. Strange and Dwlee were also maf based on interactions on my read through. gg

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:07 am

In post 3191, Dwlee99 wrote:Yes I'm scum with strange who is calling for my head

bussing is a thing

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:08 am

In post 535, StrangeMatter wrote:Uhh I have a massively unfinished list so people not mentioned are essentially no clues or I have had the chance to look into.

Not willing to vote out
Andante

Would be fine with voting out.
Frogsterking
Dwlee (Partial paranoia but he just feels like how he played in Mini 2265 and I can never get a read on him.

"How dare yall vote out Frog" lol wasn't strange the one saying that? all yall blend together

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:10 am

In post 3186, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3182, Andante wrote:
In post 3172, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i don't think i've ever read a dwlee scum game where they posted a single complicated thought in my life
yeah same lol that's exactly why I'm just like "I'm not TRing them..." half the ISO is literally about me... like...
they're so obssessed with you

this better not be some sort of bullshit scumtheatre cuz I will be heartbroken andy if you lied to me

ohhh you're bringing out the heartbroken thing... does that mean it's you? I'm not scum here, I mess with defusers and experts lol but I'm town!! do you wanna defuse a bomb?

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:10 am

In post 3195, Dwlee99 wrote:I have 175 posts in this game and they are all:
1. Andante talk to me

facts. they're all wanting my attention lol

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:11 am

and now I'm interacting and nothing is happening

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:13 am

In post 3201, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3199, Andante wrote:and now I'm interacting and nothing is happening
cuz dlee is terrified of you

I'm scary??? THAT'S AWESOME!!!

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:16 am

In post 3205, Dwlee99 wrote:Andante seriously what are you even talking about with nothing happening cause I've literally responded to what you've said

who are your SRs/poe

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:25 am

Good talk!
VOTE: Dwlee

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:31 am

I'm not asking for 1 sr, I'm asking for where your reads currently stand

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:37 am

lol we only have 5 people to choose from and have to pick 3... that's funny

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:38 am

HEAL: VP
ummm yeah I take back what I said, I don't want this bomb.. it's going BOOOM

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:40 am

Dwlee, Strange, Titus, Mala ... and 2 from this.. this is basically like the yeet pool for today lol well first 2 of yall to tell me you wouldn't let me go BOOM if I had the bomb get my heal, and I'll yeet in the other 2

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:40 am

seems like a solid strat tbh

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:30 pm

drinking on a wednesday??? wild

Andante · Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:41 pm

In post 3257, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 3254, Andante wrote:drinking on a wednesday??? wild
Andante it's been a rough two days

oh no!!! I hope everything gets better <3

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:43 am

VOTE: Titus

did someone say lim titus?

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:51 am

oh! pup is doing good!! she was crying/whining all night last night, it was so sad!!! but doing a lot better today

like, now she's just sleeping!! instead of the crying as she's staring at me... (it was very heartbreaking last night!!)

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:57 am

thanks for caring!!!

ahhh like, titus and mala, we need something from yall.. if I had to guess 1 is likely town other maf, i just wanna lim a maf here!!! but like I TR the people talking (mostly)

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:58 am

oh wait no, GL stuff was weird

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:00 am

In post 3270, GuiltyLion wrote:ok I'm caught up and hey I am gonna give a quick n dirty readslist

town: {CSF, Bell, Ceph, Dwlee, Andante, Greeting}

prob-town?: {VP Baltar, Andres, Menalque}
nothing has pushed me either way: {Titus, Strange}
kinda scummy: {Pooky, Enchant}

scum: {Mala, Misty}

I'm really only feeling confident about the top and bottom tiers, middle is waffley. I do not like a lot of Pooky's most recent pushing on Dwlee. Enchant is making bad lazy votes.

CSF made a really good point in 3248 about misty's comment on Mala - I am having a hard time squaring Misty's "Mala is scum and scum are bussing her" as a genuine, real, townie thought when Misty is not also indicating real support for a Mala lim. I'd almost prefer Misty over Mala solely on that point + me thinking the swap last night had to benefit scum in SOME fashion, but I am not going to derail the Mala wagon while it is leading.

I don't understand this top town ranking like at all, I TR Andres over Greeting, Andres is a doc claim, said he saved bell last night, no kill happened honestly I see no reason for maf to not try and kill town reads off, the doc claim is probably real, maf isn't killing andres cause so many people sr him?? not sure, but I don't like these reads AT ALL

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:00 am

like, you feel confident mala and misty are maf? the 2 low posters are maf? and you're confident in it??

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:06 am

In post 3262, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 2974, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:probly 4 of these 5:

Dwlee99
Enchant
Titus
Mala
Strange
why is Dwlee in this list

the other four are fine as POE scummy picks but Dwlee does not belong in this group unless you have good points against them

all your posts with like pooky and dwlee are odd, like, pooky said some stuff that makes me think he has the same thoughts on dwlee as me, you think Dwlee has been towny this game? GL, I'd LOVE for you to show me the posts that make you go "dwlee does not belong in this group"

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:14 am

lol ok I'm not doing this right now, I'll give you a wall response later

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:21 am

not once have I argued pooky town here

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:26 am

mala go BOOM
VOTE: Mala

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:27 am

HEAL: VP

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:08 pm

In post 3395, Cephrir wrote:there are only a few potential leaders left and none of them are doing it.

I'm kinda trying but too many people aren't doing much... we're going into night phase, and town just needs to refocus, or we WILL lose

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:09 pm

it's like, too many are in the "not doing much" pool that it doesn't make sense to look at those doing stuff tbh

Andante · Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:43 pm

In post 3405, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we had a wagon on mala for like a week and she did absolutely fuck-all and there wasn't really any other viable things pop up so its pretty funny all these people suddenly popping up like they didnt want this to go thru

lol yeah for real! like, if mala really is town though... ughh

Andante · Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:41 pm

There is no way Andres described his bomb wrong, with the defusing stuff he double checked about his solution being right, no way he messed up saying what the bomb was, this is a terrible conversation

Andante · Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:21 pm

In post 3686, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I do want more Andante in this game because it feels like she fell off the side of a cliff recently

Hi. Andante here. How can I help?

Andante · Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:22 pm

I’ve just kinda lost a lot of motivation since the Frog thing :/ I’m kinda here and reading though

Andante · Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:33 am

Everyone from my bomb hood is now dead... I'm the lone survivor. So wild guess it's cause maf thinks they can pocket me probably.. ahhhh brainpower, also I legit didn't realize we were playing PR madness lol that's kinda cool

Andante · Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:34 am

In post 3703, Dwlee99 wrote:If your name is Andante and you have investigative results you should share them now ty

how do you know I have info? that's kinda sus

Andante · Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:15 am

Also don't make me a bomb expert today please. thanks

Andante · Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:17 am

I wanna yeet titus or mist tbh

Andante · Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:17 am

cause if VP is maf, it's with mist, and maf have defused 2 already

Andante · Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:18 am

VOTE: Mistyx

Andante · Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:20 am

In post 3232, Mistyx wrote:VOTE: CSF

HEAL: VP Baltar
HEAL: Dwlee99

not really a fan of strangematter getting healed what's up with that one

In post 3587, Mistyx wrote:dwlee probably most likely town in last night's group

like, feels like Mistyx knows VP maf and is trying to avoid really saying anything about him. I want mist to go first though of the 2