KTaNE [game over!]

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Frogster here feels so different from his scumgame in Internal Affairs that he's probably my strongest townread right now. What's caught your eye there, Andante?

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VOTE: dwlee

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Frogster here feels so different from his scumgame in Internal Affairs that he's probably my strongest townread right now. What's caught your eye there, Andante?

the only difference is literally the fact he didn't play infernal affairs... then got very behind... like here, game just started, of course he's on top of it, just like that game...

That's fair, but not really enough to sway my read on him. I'd argue that falling behind in the first place is scum indicative for him.

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I strongly dislike dwlee's Andante push.

Andante feels townish here, and I also know she's kind of an easy mislim having fallen into the trap of tunneling her more than once recently. I think dwlee knows this too.

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Frogster here feels so different from his scumgame in Internal Affairs that he's probably my strongest townread right now. What's caught your eye there, Andante?

the only difference is literally the fact he didn't play infernal affairs... then got very behind... like here, game just started, of course he's on top of it, just like that game...

That's fair, but not really enough to sway my read on him. I'd argue that falling behind in the first place is scum indicative for him.

How did you realize that?

You were ellitelling a lot as scum, which I pointed out in Internal Affairs.

Speaking of which, did you guys know we can't point out ellitell anymore? I got a warning for that post lol.

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Titus was my early town read for a dumb reason.

Oh, and after that

I actually found her non-serious mason claim townie, even if I dont like fake mason claiming.

Both from an approach from her towards a possible miselim if he is town, but not in a way that I think scum would do for a partner if he is scum. But also in a similarity in how I've seen her approach games before.

I would say greeting and Titus are my strongest reads of those 5

Baffled by this Titus townread

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HEAL: frogster
HEAL: Greeting
HEAL: catboi
HEAL: Andante

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I wonder what the odds are Cat just popped in to pocket both of us by saying exactly what we want to hear

What?

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Why were you scumreading Andante then, dwlee?

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All I see are reasons to not townread her

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Why were you scumreading Andante then, dwlee?

The last paragraph?

That people are playing around her like this is actually what makes me think she is scum.

She is actually townier as scum and that everyone townreads her when she is normally a controversial day one slot is very scum-indicative imo

I'm not sure this really tracks. This reason feels more like something that was made up after the fact.

I went back and reread the posts between Andante's first post and your first post. There were, if I'm being generous, 3 [1][2][3] townreads and one possible scumread on Andante before you voted for her.

From whom did you get the impression that people were playing around her?

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I'm not sure this really tracks. This reason feels more like something that was made up after the fact.

I went back and reread the posts between Andante's first post and your first post. There were, if I'm being generous, 3 [1][2][3] townreads and one possible scumread on Andante before you voted for her.

From whom did you get the impression that people were playing around her?

When I entered the game I didn't scumread her yet, that was for reactions.

That does sound more plausible

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S2g no one will ever just let me do a thing without some genius trying to put me on the defensive for trying

Dislike the AtE

Frogster seems generally paranoid and I don't think he's been singling you out

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I am on board with nominating the towniest players to be bomb experts

I thought that's what we've all been doing this entire time

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I strongly dislike dwlee's Andante push.

Andante feels townish here, and I also know she's kind of an easy mislim having fallen into the trap of tunneling her more than once recently. I think dwlee knows this too.

What specifically don't you like about Dwlee's push?

Felt opportunistic to me like someone pushing a known easy mislim

I gave 351 some major side eye

The reasoning given post hoc ("too many people townreading andante --> andante scum) is pretty meh. It's so early in the game, it feels weird to make a gamestate read like that when people's reads are subject to change easily

Also, what about Andante's play makes her town in your eyes?

Helped push the game out of the 12 pages of mech talk, feels similar to her other town games

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I gave 351 some major side eye

351 felt very not serious to me

Same thought occurred to me but it was followed shortly by 360

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Uhh I have a massively unfinished list so people not mentioned are essentially no clues or I have had the chance to look into.

Not willing to vote out
Andante

Would be fine with voting out.
Frogsterking
Dwlee (Partial paranoia but he just feels like how he played in Mini 2265 and I can never get a read on him.

I found it quite funny that strange was asked for a full reads list, and says they have "massively unfinished one" - and then posts a list with e names in a 19 player game lmao

Scum!strange could have easily padded this out at least a little bit, so thinking this is town strange still getting a footing on reads

big oof

I kind of agree though

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and other than that, not really any thoughts, frogs... had me laughing at Cat being too good to be true, that's really not a bad point.....but it definitely doesn't fit with my frogs!maf thought, so I'll have to look into that later, but yeah, I'm definitely suspicious of like the "perfect entrances" and "no bad takes" cause the entrance too was right as I "was leaving" like, trying to time it so no one was really arround to apply pressure... kiiinnndddaaaaa sus if you ask me.... but that's either a later tonight problem or a tomorrow problem to look into, and the sudden like interest people are having in frogs is making me think the Cat!maf path is a good path to look into, cause initially there was a bunch of "no way frogs maf!!" now it's feeling a lot different, and idk how I feel about that

You two are just some of the most active posters lol, there's nothing timed about my entrance

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andante town
Lukewarm scum
vp still scum
Frogster town
Cephrir scum

just need one more, maybe bell randed scum again lul

HEAL: the praetorian

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Null

Wow I didn't even make it into the nulls but Andres did?

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- dwlee is towny for noticing as of 293

He said it was a joke. Does that change your read on him?

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- dwlee is towny for noticing as of 293

They said it was a joke. Does that change your read on them?

Sorry dwlee!

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Errr possibly a dumb question but how do we select who goes into what group?

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- dwlee is towny for noticing as of 293

They said it was a joke. Does that change your read on them?

Sorry dwlee!

huh? where did they say that? i said 351 looked jokey but i don't think the scumread overall was a joke and i don't see anything they said that would imply that

first part of 552

I misremembered - It wasn't a joke but it also wasn't a real read yet

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351 was a joke. 360 is unrelated to 351. Also: "it feels weird to make a gamestate read like that," well lemme show you some evidence:

Andante [7]:

Menalque, The Praetorian, Titus, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever

Frogsterking [6]:

Titus, VP Baltar, The Praetorian, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever[/font][/area]

And since then, more people have voted her for defuser. Speaking of which:
HURT: Morning tweet

Simply because your statement became true later doesn't mean it made sense as a real thought at the time

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HURT: all

Iwasn't aware we could pick the groups. I'l lfigure this out later

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351 was a joke. 360 is unrelated to 351. Also: "it feels weird to make a gamestate read like that," well lemme show you some evidence:

Andante [7]:

Menalque, The Praetorian, Titus, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever

Frogsterking [6]:

Titus, VP Baltar, The Praetorian, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever[/font][/area]

And since then, more people have voted her for defuser. Speaking of which:
HURT: Morning tweet

Simply because your statement became true later doesn't mean it made sense as a real thought at the time

But when I said that too many people townread Andante it was still true she had a ton of heal votes so what's your point?

Yeah that's fair, I'm getting the impression that this is something you believe in anyway

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VOTE: GuiltyLion

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Mena does seem to have trouble getting into the game

Not sure about fire yet

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Hi mala!

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Whats town about menalque? Also I don't see anyone healing him, so I'm confused how you're getting that from the latest VC

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I could vote either VP or fire atp

VOTE: Morning Tweet

VP I promise I'll skim through that game at some point tonight for ya,

main thing I'm just trying to see is if the style of asking a bunch of questions and posting random largely meaningless observations

(579 another one that pinged me much in the same vein) is fully in line with your town game, seems fire (slash maybe a couple others IIRC?) is vouching for that but just want to check it myself

I largely agree with this observation. I was kind of surprised that VP is second top poster when I opened up the activity overview, because I don't really remember their posts or recall their stances.

Keep us updated on the metadive

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I think the last game we played together categorically demonstrates that I am better at reading Andante than you are and I'm kind of confused why you think you would have a better read on her than I do it feels almost like refuge in audacity.

Yes so if you're right cool but if you're wrong you die :^)

This game is fair right

do we get to BoP you if you're wrong though

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VOTE: VP

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I townread pooky now too

I also prefer CSF to help differentiate from catboi

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no

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can more people please heal pooky!!! I want to solve a bomb with pooky!!!!

also, not a huge fan of being with 3 whole people that… I don’t tr like at all… like can I request like catboi in my group then if I can’t have pooky? cause I don’t think me + 3 non TRs ends well

Are your TRs basically still the same from 638? Cuz that's a pretty wack set of TRs. I agree with only 2/9 of those (catboi, pooky), and those two are like the ones i'm the least confident about

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I could vote either VP or fire atp

VOTE: Morning Tweet

VP I promise I'll skim through that game at some point tonight for ya,

main thing I'm just trying to see is if the style of asking a bunch of questions and posting random largely meaningless observations

(579 another one that pinged me much in the same vein) is fully in line with your town game, seems fire (slash maybe a couple others IIRC?) is vouching for that but just want to check it myself

I largely agree with this observation. I was kind of surprised that VP is second top poster when I opened up the activity overview, because I don't really remember their posts or recall their stances.

Keep us updated on the metadive

This kind of looks like you just testing the waters of wagons that are semi-popular and saying your fine with either.

It's also pretty silly to be like "vp isn't memorable!" when your ability to remember things I've said and my positions is not my problem. Have better reading retention. I also don't know a thing you've done this game, but that's not an actual reason alone to scum read a person because I could say that about lots of players in a large game.

You may think my questions are pointless, but they aren't to me and how I'm feeling people out, which is all I care about.

Sure I don't have a read on Andres or The Bulge or other people, but they've barely posted or haven't posted enough for me to feel strongly one way or another

the difference with you is that you've posted a lot, but somehow your posts haven't stood out unlike the other active posters. My reading retention isn't the problem if I can remember other active posters.

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Also, CSF, are you townreading GL?

Tentatively

I like that he saw the same things in dwlee as I did. He could be scum parroting me, but I don't particularly think I'm important enough to pocket lol.

I'd like to see more from him.

Why do you ask about GL specifically?

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ive been reading some morning tweet games and learned not much bc she replaces into games a lot and so i don't have many day 1s to compare to. i think i can buy that she can be a little less assertive early as maf. but i can also buy that she genuinely feels like she is stronger later in the game and isn't very enthused about the start of a large

so based on meta this looks well in her scumrange but not outside her townrange either. which means we can look at play instead, yay! and the play looks kinda scummy imo

I thought you were scumreading MT for hedge-y posts, but you're also saying MT lacking confidence can be ascribed to general aversion to day 1 and large games.

Can you remind me why you scumread her again?

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HEAL: CSF

What made you think I'm town?

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The hardest thing about reading Andante is she somehow both needs to use MORE and LESS punctuation.

funny and accurate

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Dwlee... you've been calling me scum from the start, I think, if town, maybe your reads are just backwards this game...

Possible but idk

I really just think game state is pointing to town consensus being wrong right now. There are only 4 scum though which I think I should keep in mind when making this judgement but I'm having trouble factoring it in.

do you have any townreads

your ISO is remarkably devoid of them

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@strange and CSF, why have you nominated zero people for bomb experts?

Oh, I meant to think about who I wanted in which group but forgot

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HEAL: andante
HEAL: pooky
HEAL: catboi

also who's good at reading dwlee? I think it'd be fun to put them in a group with people who can read them. Any volunteers?

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Except....it's not? She is claiming GL is repeating her thoughts, when in reality it was GL who said it first, as far as I'm aware.

I was pushing dwlee before him, and it was these and some other dwlee-related posts that had me wary

Spoiler:

HEAL: frogster
HEAL: Greeting
HEAL: catboi
HEAL: Andante

Why were you scumreading Andante then, dwlee?

The last paragraph?

That people are playing around her like this is actually what makes me think she is scum.

She is actually townier as scum and that everyone townreads her when she is normally a controversial day one slot is very scum-indicative imo

I'm not sure this really tracks. This reason feels more like something that was made up after the fact.

I went back and reread the posts between Andante's first post and your first post. There were, if I'm being generous, 3 [1][2][3] townreads and one possible scumread on Andante before you voted for her.

From whom did you get the impression that people were playing around her?

CSF town

I gave 351 some major side eye

351 felt very not serious to me

Same thought occurred to me but it was followed shortly by 360

HEAL: Cat Scratch Fever

The observation about your playstyle this game was made by GL. That was the only thing I agreed with that could be construed as repeating things he said

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Have wallpost read lists come back into fashion? Maybe I'll post one later

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I feel bad that I scum read baltar for their effort post.
The reason I am compelled to scum read it, is because their reads, read like characterizations first and sorting people second.

I'm always judging

Why is this your response to someone scumreading you for your readslist?

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Cat Scratch Fever -

I REALLY don't like her trying to draft off GL onto me for some wild ass reasons like "I don't remember you".

Open my ISO if you don't remember me. Her saying she is fine with fire or VP also seems opportunistic. Need to read if she is having serious conversations with fire trying to find his alignment, because I didn't don't think she was doing that with me at all.

Me not remembering you is a sign that you haven't made any notable pushes, and you're here in the thread but not making waves. It's not that I haven't read your posts or parts of your ISO.

If you need me to describe it in terms of buzzwords, I guess "active lurking" is the best fit.

Why is this point unbelievable when Cephrir basically said the same thing about you?

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Andante we can figure out and organize hood groups closer to the end of the day. I wouldn't read too much into the groups right now.

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Mala, how much of the game have you read?

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Closer to when we decide a lim

Current gamestate has all wagons petering out

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I don't think anyone has opposed you/pooky/catboi/??? hood, so idk why this is happening rn

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I feel bad that I scum read baltar for their effort post.
The reason I am compelled to scum read it, is because their reads, read like characterizations first and sorting people second.

I'm always judging

Why is this your response to someone scumreading you for your readslist?

Because I think it is funny

do you think it's a fair assessment of your post? like does it affect your read of Bell?

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Me not remembering you is a sign that you haven't made any notable pushes, and you're here in the thread but not making waves. It's not that I haven't read your posts or parts of your ISO.

Do you think you are making waves? cause like, I have news for you....

Terrible deflection

Also you have more than twice as many posts as I have, so not at all relevant

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Hipshots...?

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Bell is probably just scum.

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Spoiler: unofficial bomb nominations ct

Unofficial bomb expert nominations count:

Andante [11]:

Menalque, Malakittens, Titus, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, GuiltyLion, VP Baltar, Cat Scratch Fever, StrangeMatter, Bell

Greeting [9]:

catboi, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Bell, VP Baltar, StrangeMatter

Frogsterking [7]:

Titus, VP Baltar, Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Morning Tweet, Greeting, GuiltyLion

catboi [6]:

VP Baltar, PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell, fireisredsir, Cat Scratch Fever, Andante

PookyTheMagicalBear [5]:

Andante, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, frogsterking, fireisredsir

Malakittens [4]:

The Bulge, Menalque, Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear

Cat Scratch Fever [4]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Frogsterking, Cephrir

Dwlee99 [3]:

VP Baltar, Titus, Cephrir

Morning Tweet [2]:

Malakittens, Greeting

Titus [2]:

Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear

Cephrir [2]:

Titus, Frogsterking

StrangeMatter [2]:

Frogsterking, Greeting

GuiltyLion [1]:

Malakittens

Menalque [1]:

GuiltyLion

not nominating [3]:

Andresvmb

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Hi Enchant, why do I feel like you always replace into scum slots

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Frogster/Greeting/Cephrir/Titus for the other team?

I'd prefer if I was in this group with Frogster and Greeting

but I also won't kick and scream if not I guess

I also don't have any reason to think Titus is town, but looking at the player list, I can't really find an eighth name I feel good about healing

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do you think it's a fair assessment of your post? like does it affect your read of Bell?

I don't think it's a fair assessment. I don't even particularly know what it means. But it was also Friday, and after putting like 30 mins into trying to sort generally where my feelings on the game were at, I wanted to go drink some beer and chill, not get into a back and forth with someone right then.

As far as how I feel about Bell, I don't know if it was a bad faith bit of shading or not. I guess I'll see what he does with it or if he wants to explain further.

I thought it was scummy to post a readslist and not want to talk about it, since that's the primary reason for posting one. Your explanation for not wanting to get into a back and forth right away is plausible though I'm not sure i believe it. Since it doesn't really move the needle for me, let's just move on.

Your scumpool is alarming.

The one point you made against me that was valid was that I have not engaged a lot with you, which is probably true. But everything else I didn't think was fair.

There's Strange who is kind of just always LHF, because he struggles with expressing himself. Idk if you've played with him before and I won't hold this point against you if you haven't, but this scumread doesn't sway my opinion of you.

There's Titus, who I think was sick or something, and confidently asserted that she sometimes takes a backseat day 1. Why would she lie about something that can be so easily fact checked?

For Mala - idk how to read Koba and admittedly, the longer Mala goes without posting, the more concerned I get. The time I played with town Mala years ago, I vaguely recall her being obvtown. But she also has a busy/stressful job, so imo give her a couple more RL days to get into the game.

Overall, it gave me the impression that you went like: "hmm I have CSF and Strange in here and I should probably have a couple more scumreads, why not throw Titus and Mala in here?"

The other problem I have with your readslist is that I'm not sure everything tracks - fire is town because you vibe with his reads. But fire's scumpool {MT, Menalque, Andres} doesn't overlap with your scumpool here, so I'm not sure how that ended up being town for you

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Not really. My point is that your assessment is not only wrong, but hypocritical. I'm trying to get you to realize that your subjective experience of my play and your ability to remember it doesn't actually say anything about my alignment.

I can't remember a stance you actually took before you started this dumb fight, but does that mean you haven't taken stances? Probably not! It probably means I need to go do some reading.

Yes, I post more than you. So what? I'm also voting, trying to figure out what I think is best on the mechs, pushing people to talk to me about things I think actually could be AI, and generally being pretty transparent about my reads on situations. This is all pretty clear in my ISO, which you insinuate you have actually read, so your accusation of active lurking rings pretty hollow. There are definitely people you could point to in this game who ARE active lurking (Titus, kittens), but I don't expect you to acknowledge that because it kind of pops your balloon.

I acknowledge this post, but I doubt going back and forth on this further will produce any useful info or be fun to read for everyone else.

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Bell is probably just scum.

Highly unlikely at this point.

I don't know about "highly unlikely" but I am trending in that direction after the posts I just read on this page

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There's Strange who is kind of just always LHF, because he struggles with expressing himself. Idk if you've played with him before and I won't hold this point against you if you haven't, but this scumread doesn't sway my opinion of you

I have not played with strange before. Do they get mislimmed a lot D1?

Idk about mislimmed D1 but she has trouble stringing words together in a coherent manner, so I feel like everything they write can be perceived as flailing

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also who's good at reading dwlee? I think it'd be fun to put them in a group with people who can read them. Any volunteers?

I'd rather Dwlee not be a bomb expert at all currently

oh and no dwlee in my hood.. please...

if you guys are interested in wagoning there, I'm down

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Bell is probably just scum.

Highly unlikely at this point.

I don't know about "highly unlikely" but I am trending in that direction after the posts I just read on this page

Why were you scumreading him in the first place?

He had a reason to scumread VP, but didn't want to support his elim. Felt partner-y

Ik pooky said that's the opposite of what scum Bell would do in that situation, but that's what I felt at the time

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I'm only healing you and the two people you want to be in a hood there so I can't help you there

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yeah that's fair

I was also peeved that when VP was coming under pressure, and it looked like we may finally get a serious wagon going, he came in was like "no but LUKE"

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I have some time so I'll take another look at Luke and fire, but something about fire's way of formatting posts make them hard to read for me ._.

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dwlee who are your townreads?

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I wish I could be a shit stirrer but alas

Maybe one day

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dwlee who are your townreads?

Uhh

HEAL: VP Baltar (okay this one is really hit or miss)
HEAL: Greeting
HEAL: Cephrir
HEAL: Bell
HEAL: Enchant ???

It doesn't feel like you've given much thought to these townreads

When you're town, I feel like you definitely have townreads when you're reading through the thread, even if you don't always state your townreads in the game thread.

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Enchant/The Bulge has barely done anything all game

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"Uhh"

"???"

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We're almost 60 pages in, I do kind of expect you to have some confident townreads and not overthink a simple question like "who are your TRs", yeah

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Name last 3-5 games with him where you were town?

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No but actually

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I was actually thinking Enchant would be funny to have as a bomb expert HEAL: Enchant

Do we have any name suggestions for the Town Core B team yet? So far it's looking like CSF/Greeting/Frog/ ?? one more spot.

no, bad heal

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I have some time so I'll take another look at Luke and fire, but something about fire's way of formatting posts make them hard to read for me ._.

should i format them differently? ive never gotten this complaint but i am kinda new to forum format lol

It's not your fault, it's mostly my ADHD.

It makes it hard for me to read more than a couple of sentences in a paragraph when words are not properly capitalized.

Excessive line breaks help even more (like 849)

Keep typing the way you do if you want, I was planning on pasting your posts in a text file and adding line breaks anyway lol

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Frogster, didn't fire claim that 702 was written before he replaced in?

If so, I'm not sure the post is AI.

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Frogster, didn't fire claim that 702 was written before he replaced in?

If so, I'm not sure the post is AI.

ye, frog knows this im pretty sure.

it is still my thoughts on the game though

I don't doubt that. But if you had these thoughts before replacing into the game, then questioning them now is kind of pointless, since you could've received a red PM and went like "eh imma post my notes anyway since they're genuine."

In contrast, if you had received a red PM from the start, you probably would've had different notes. Does that make sense?

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For now though. No.

I prefer just shoving a bunch of town reads in there

because because it makes it harder for the game state to stagnate.

Still don't want to be a bomb expert? I wouldn't mind giving you a heal.

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andres, do you often catch up in games by making posts like this one?

148 - Interestingly enough, I really don’t like this response from VPB. What does it matter when was the last time you rolled Scum? Like why do you feel self-conscious enough that you decide to actively state when you last rolled Scum? It’s irrelevant to your chances of being Scum in this game. The reflex to answer in this way feels like a bad sign.

wasn't he directly asked? why is it bad that he answered the question

also this

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oof the beetlejuice. were you lurking Strange?

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I think it's very possible Strange has been lurking

I don't think it necessarily means she's scum with andres or fire. I think that's too hasty of a conclusion

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Hmm IDK. CSF have you warmed up to Enchant yet? I think this is town!Enchant

if i had to guess, I think he's town here.

Last 2 games we were in- he was town in one and scum in the other. He looks more like the town game here than the scum game... but I was also scum in both games, so I also wasn't solving his alignment in either >_>

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Anything critical that I’ve missed?

I'd appreciate a second opinion on the 40 posts andres just dropped

I could vote him but it's not screaming scum at me

the progression on you around VP was unpersuasive to me and seemed too telegraphed as a shift

plus a bunch of the reads in the catchup wall being without commentary initially made it look like a busy-work sort of approach. especially disliked comments such as: "A bit too tryhardy for Scum."; "Pooky feels like they’re full of shit this game and wouldn’t trust them for anything"; "I genuinely dislike this take from Bell."

all of these things could have been v easily expanded on/dug into more in the catchup but instead he needed to be prodded for the extra info

Ooh feeling town on mena

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vote count 1.13

• with
  19
  votes in play, it takes
  10
  to make a decision.
  
• day 1 ends in
  (expired on 2022-04-06 19:15:00)
  .
  
• 8
  players who have the most nominations at eod1 will be bomb experts on n1.

execution:

fireisredsir [5]:

Bell, Menalque, Malakittens, catboi, Dwlee99

Morning Tweet [4]:

Cephrir, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Titus

VP Baltar [3]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, Frogsterking

GuiltyLion [1]:

Morning Tweet

StrangeMatter [1]:

VP Baltar

Frogsterking [1]:

StrangeMatter

catboi [1]:

Enchant

Menalque [1]:

Andante

not voting [2]:

Andresvmb, Greeting

VOTE: fire

Let's see what happens

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Fire, can you post your stances real quick? I feel like your reads should have fluctuated since replace in. I don't need elaborations, just an idea of where you are.

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Spoiler: unofficial expert nominations

Nominee	Healer
	catboi	Pooky	Frogster	fire	Andante	Mistyx	VP	Guilty	Enchant	Dwlee	Cephrir	Greeting	Andres	CSF	Menalque	Titus	Mala	Strange	Bell
Andante (13)				+		+	+	+	+		+		+	+	+	+	+	+	+
Greeting (12)	+	+		+		+	+	+	+	+	+		+					+	+
Frogster (10)		+				+	+	+	+			+	+			+	+		+
catboi (9)		+		+	+		+		+		+		+	+					+
Pooky (7)			+	+	+				+		+	+		+
CSF (6)		+	+					+	+		+								+
Dwlee (5)							+		+		+		+			+
Mala (4)		+	+						+						+
Cephrir (4)					+				+	+						+
Strange (4)			+						+			+	+
Titus (4)		+							+				+				+
Mistyx (3)									+			+					+
Guilty (3)									+								+		+
fire (2)									+				+
Bell (2)									+		+
Menalque (3)								+	+										+
VP (2)									+	+
Enchant (2)			+							+
Andres (1)									+

First thought is, lol Enchant are you really healing everyone or did I make a mistake?

Second thought is that I don't mind putting not-town reads in the second so long as they're active. So please, no Mala unless she can commit to posting in the hood. Maybe one of Menalque, Guilty, or Cephrir, since those are my nulltowns.

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Fire, can you post your stances real quick? I feel like your reads should have fluctuated since replace in. I don't need elaborations, just an idea of where you are.

i don't really think in readlist form so i don't think one of those would be very useful, but yea i can summarize some thoughts in a bit when i have time to write them out

Just a list of people you think are scummy would suffice

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yeah I was also wondering why fire hasn't said anything about andres

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@frogster- your problems with Bell could just be playstyle clash. I think Bell is p towny

I also didn't like Andres' catch up and could entertain a wagon there.

My initial impression of his catch up was a lot of trying to look town and show progression rather than actual solving. He's just posting about things that happened 50 pages ago. I understand he may have fallen behind, but that really shouldn't be town's priority

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@frogster- your problems with Bell could just be playstyle clash. I think Bell is p towny

I also didn't like Andres' catch up and could entertain a wagon there.

My initial impression of his catch up was a lot of trying to look town and show progression rather than actual solving. He's just posting about things that happened 50 pages ago. I understand he may have fallen behind, but that really shouldn't be town's priority

Also, the one game I was in with Andres, I also remember him falling a bit behind there too, but he was able to summarize the important events in the thread and comment on them.

Whereas here, he presented a catch up on events so many pages back, and I don't think that's what he would focus on if he were town here.

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oh i guess i didn't. i mostly agree with the points that you've made criticizing the posts.

i don't really have a personal read on him bc i find it hard to read people who have only posted in the way he has posted so far (I like seeing how people engage with the thread at the time things are happening not after the fact), but the fact that he has only posted in that way so far makes me kinda suspicious.

but the fact that i don't have, like, any gut feeling towards him makes me a little hesitant to put him in the scummiest tier of my scumreads bc he could just be town who hasn't gotten into the game yet.

does that make sense?

that's probably fair. I also wondered if I should wait to see more from Andres

Something I've noted looking at your ISO, is that you doing a lot of waiting for things to happen (in particular, for certain people to return to the thread), which gives me the general impression that you're being reactive and not pushing very hard to refine reads. Idk could be a playstyle thing

Another example of being "reactive" is talking to frogster about 702, which you admitted you don't think is AI. If you don't think it's AI, why answer I felt that was overly accommodating

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CSF I'm pretty sure fire was lying about writing that beforehand.

He posted it 12 mins after the mod announced he was replacing in tho

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csf can you expand on your bell townread

Generally, he seems to be speaking without much of a filter

I especially liked his reaction dwlee around 1409. I vibed with a lot of what he was saying and it felt natural

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VOTE: Andres

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Hmm I think scum might be healing me

Hmm I think scum might be healing me

what makes you think that?

I've deliberately done nothing.

Any follow up to this?

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Nice one Dats

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Ugh

I don't know how to feel about fire voting Andres right after his top scumread (Mistyx) votes for Andres

Making a note that pages 70-75 are worth rereading after a flip or two

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CLEARLY not the first one. I didn’t want my vote to become stale and force an execution I wasn’t ready for. Sue me.

This conversation is rapidly devolving into-

"this thing andre did is scummy!"

"no it isn't!"

I doubt pursuing this further will change anyone's perceptions of you. I suggest you catch up asap to give more fleshed out reads

pedit: lmao

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Any reasons that have been expressed to paint me as Scummy have already been proven to be bad because I’m Town and anyone paying close attention to my posts already understands the reasons. Frog is just the personification of stubbornness.

I think your catch up was scummy.

And you sitting there saying "but my catchup wasn't scummy because I'm actually town!" isn't going to change my mind, because it doesn't help me at all.

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Any reasons that have been expressed to paint me as Scummy have already been proven to be bad because I’m Town and anyone paying close attention to my posts already understands the reasons. Frog is just the personification of stubbornness.

I think your catch up was scummy.

And you sitting there saying "but my catchup wasn't scummy because I'm actually town!" isn't going to change my mind, because it doesn't help me at all.

The actual reasons have gone way over your head. Your insistence only makes you look worse in the long run.

Do you even know what my reasons for scumreading you are???

Or are you just talking on cruise control now

Because you haven't responded to me this entire time

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Andres is just scum, right

Because this is pretty frustrating as far as mafia interactions go lol

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Andres is just scum, right

Because this is pretty frustrating as far as mafia interactions go lol

Tbh, probably not. I am genuinely town reading them for unbelievably stupid reasons.
As Syrana might say, "I'm in this picture, and I don't like it".

Why do you think they're town?

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ok eh i changed my mind again I think it's more likely scum are taking advantage of frog here to push this

VOTE: misty

Did Andres' recent posts ring as towny to you?

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Because only townspeople say that they're not scum because they're town.

Scum them know that's an incredibly stupid argument and so they don't make it because it gets them nowhere.
But spiteful, contemptuous town that thinks you're an idiot because you're objectively wrong from their point of view?
Yeah, I can see it.

Andres always struck me as a more level headed player though and I don't think players like that push arguments like 1941. It isn't arguing in good faith

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Lol omg CSF the solve is fire + andres + Bell + Ceph or very close to it. They are just spewing. They can't lose andres because of the theme so they're going all out to gaslight people into not voting andres.

I'll agree with you on fire, but I'm not convinced about Cephrir or Bell. They could just be town who really, really think fire is scum (which does fit in Bell's case since he has meta experience with Luke).

and by theme, you think Andres is a strong PR role?

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For some reason, I thought you've been scumreading fire. Did my brain make that up?

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No thanks, I'm too busy being stupid, howling and gaslighting nobody

See what I'm talking about CSF. For some reason andres has a role valuable enough they HAVE to try and prevent his wagon.

Town will disagree with each other though, and even tunnel and TvT each other. If town always agreed with each other, this game would be a cakewalk. As it is, I would guess Cephrir and Bell are town

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Can you hurt mala while you're at it? She somehow has 4 votes

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Was that hammer? If not

HEAL: mena

HEAL: cephrir

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I think fire is e+1 just counted

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Summarize everything in that hood? What each of you said

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So catboi made himself defuser?

No his switcheroo only works if he wasn't voted as expert
But he was
So someone else messed with that

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I wanna know why VP lived in hood 2... that's what I'm curious about...

We basically thought it was more likely VP was put there by scum for us to kill a townie and get another NK

More likely than scum!vp putting himself in there to wifom us since that's a huge risk with me and pooky in the thread

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catboi

outed his role in our PT and

Frogsterking

outright refused to solve and did everything in his power to sabotage the process, disregarding any relevant points raised and attempting to derail the PT in any possible way he could.

catboi

's role claim was an

extremely

improbable one to make for scum, because it can be verified almost immediately. If we bomb solved, he would have been confirmed. If the bomb exploded, his role would be revealed in the flip. It makes zero sense as town to not believe it.

Frogsterking

refused to even provide any answer to the puzzle.

In these circumstances this is basically outing himself as scum.

but if he were scum, why wouldn't he just pretend to give the correct solution to the bomb and sabotage silently?

why isn't he just a VI

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This conclusion about the roles is based on Andnate hard claiming her role in the hood which is clearly a scum aligned PR role that seems to fire on even nights, and andres has the same thing except his fires on odd nights, which is why on N1 andres was in the hood and catboi was switched.

?? I thought andres claimed simple doctor

I'm confused

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This is a non-bastard game, right? Jester is the only thing I can think of.

game's confirmed to be 15:4

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This is a non-bastard game, right? Jester is the only thing I can think of.

game's confirmed to be 15:4

Unless you can confirm that scum aligned roles that alter their flip on death are hard banned in Large Themes, I believe there are only 3 scum left and they're most likely Andante, andres and Greeting.

what are you smoking

this game isn't bastard if that's what you're asking

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i feel like frog is going to flip town but it really doesn't matter. this clown needs to get out of our mafia game either way

kinda where I'm at right now too

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HEAL: Bell
HEAL: Enchant
HEAL: VP

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don't end the day until everyone checks in btw

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we didn't talk nearly as much as you guys did in group 2

no one gave a readslist except VP i think

and also Andres scum was a consensus read

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see, we were thinking andres got thrown to group 1 like that to be SRed, andres in the hood was pretty good, catboi and I were thinking andres town for sure... like, frogster was just annoying the whole time... Greeting had the time zone difference so wasn't there too much, but was there enough and actively tried to solve with catboi

What did Andres say? I want to know what original thoughts he had, and why you tr'd him

Also I don't understand. If scum wanted Andres to be SR'ed, why wouldn't they make Andres a defuser?

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Frogs is at 5/9 votes btw

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I think if you're town, frogs, it's more likely that your hood was all town

I'm not going to elaborate on this further at this time

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I think if you're town, frogs, it's more likely that your hood was all town

I'm not going to elaborate on this further at this time

Please remember this if i die tho

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dwlee are you really trying to get townread for a wagon that went nowhere

pedit @Andante: yeah I'm not going to fight his lim because I think people are never going to be able to move on from his play, but I still think he flips town :<

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wait frogster claimed macho cop?

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wait frogster claimed macho cop?

Yes. After catboi claimed "innocent child daredevil" I thought he was going to flip scum so I claimed macho cop to

imply I was a bomb so I didn't get nightkilled.

wait what? how does claiming macho cop prevent you from getting NK'd?

So it was a fakeclaim?

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I think if you're town, frogs, it's more likely that your hood was all town

I'm not going to elaborate on this further at this time

nvm I retract this because of frogster's cop claim lol

just ignore me

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hey dwlee and i agree on something for the first time in nearly 100 pages

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UNVOTE:
actually day can't end yet, I want titus thoughts

and GuiltyLion

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I'm a TPR and it has potential to be pretty strong so I'm going to hard claim now if necessary. I really didn't expect to be in this situation because I was convinced catboi was going to flip scum.

then claim? idk what you're waiting for tbh

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lmao

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Bell would be a good heal imo

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actually Frog scum almost certainly hard confirms everyone else in that hood as town right? Assuming he sacrificed himself to take out IC catboi, means there wasn't a better buddy who was worse positioned than he was to take the fall

yes I think so

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It is kind of a mystery why Frog didn't do it in a more subtle fashion though? only thing I can guess is solely to ensure less attention to other buddies today?

yeah I never got a satisfying answer to this

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HEAL: GuiltyLion

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Rundown of what happened in the pt? Especially why Mistyx was there?

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I softed my role and why lying about the solve would be bad for scum

Did you mean to say "would be bad for town"?

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If town messed with the experts, I think they should say so. Otherwise, I think we can assume scum messed with them.

I'd like to hear from Mistyx why they think they were switched into an expert role because "idk lol" isn't really a good enough answer. and now that frogs flipped town, I'd also like to hear from Andres about the same thing.

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I softed my role and why lying about the solve would be bad for scum

Did you mean to say "would be bad for town"?

No. I'm saying I directly threatened anyone who lied, meaning if Mistyx was scum, she would be taking a risk by lying.

Interesting

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Maybe scum came into the PT with the intention of not defusing but then defused because of the threat

What 4 defuse wincon?

If scum defuse 4 bombs, they win.

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That said, I want to turbo pound Andres.

Why Andres?

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VOTE: mala

I endorse this

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Who's scum strange

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No thoughts on mala?

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if you want my actual insight

bell town
confused about why everyone kept mentioning waiting for titus input earlier then entirely ignored her andres push? probably slightly scum indicative for andres
gth i would say the vote dump on mala includes a bus

Her push was entirely underwhelming

Also in the last sentence, you seem to be assuming mala will flip scum?

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Oh good, i was starting to worry there wasn't enough resistance to a mala wagon

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tbf dwlee expressed interest in being an expert yesterday and maybe day 1 too

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Mistyx is still scummy imo

I'd be happy if any of Mistyx/Titus/Mala/maybe Andres were limmed today

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Enchant, did you ever explain why you don't want to be a bomb expert?

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HEAL: vpb
HEAL: dwlee

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VOTE: CSF

HEAL: VP Baltar
HEAL: Dwlee99

not really a fan of strangematter getting healed what's up with that one

Why

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if you want my actual insight

bell town
confused about why everyone kept mentioning waiting for titus input earlier then entirely ignored her andres push? probably slightly scum indicative for andres

gth i would say the vote dump on mala includes a bus

There's nothing in Mistyx's ISO that would explain that vote on me aside from maybe this post, which is a weird thing to post while noticeably not voting for mala

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Mala why are you still not voting?

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if you want my actual insight

bell town
confused about why everyone kept mentioning waiting for titus input earlier then entirely ignored her andres push? probably slightly scum indicative for andres

gth i would say the vote dump on mala includes a bus

There's nothing in Mistyx's ISO that would explain that vote on me aside from maybe this post, which is a weird thing to post while noticeably not voting for mala

Is it a weird post, it's pretty obvious from my point of view that if Mala is scum that yes, scum are bussing them.
I'm just not very confident they're bussing at all and not just using their numbers to push through an easy win.

But why say it's a bus and then not vote mala?

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dwlee I've been leaning town but not very confident tho

pedit: ok but there was a wagon on mala?

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Misty is salmon? might need to handhold me through this analogy, I've been drinking more than I should be for a week night

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I feel like I'm scumreading all the people who aren't doing anything, and there's probably lazy town in there somewhere. And I dont know what to do about unless one of them decides to start playing the game for real

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drinking on a wednesday??? wild

Andante it's been a rough two days

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VOTE: Titus

YES SIR

Why vote Titus but not Mala?

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It's a large Titus. Is it scummy to not wait for one person out of nineteen to catch up?

I don't understand the angle here

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Scum ending the day early out of a desire to silence you would only make sense if they also tried to kill you N1?

And no one's claimed to protect you so i doubt that's happening

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humorous thought: what if enchant were scum with andres and fully aware that no one wants to join a wagon started by himself and titus so voting his partner is actually a form of protecting him

Switch enchant with Titus pushing Andres with a flimsy reason

and i lowkey think that's what's happening right now

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ok I'm caught up and hey I am gonna give a quick n dirty readslist

town: {CSF, Bell, Ceph, Dwlee, Andante, Greeting}

prob-town?: {VP Baltar, Andres, Menalque}
nothing has pushed me either way: {Titus, Strange}
kinda scummy: {Pooky, Enchant}

scum: {Mala, Misty}

I'm really only feeling confident about the top and bottom tiers, middle is waffley. I do not like a lot of Pooky's most recent pushing on Dwlee. Enchant is making bad lazy votes.

CSF made a really good point in 3248 about misty's comment on Mala - I am having a hard time squaring Misty's "Mala is scum and scum are bussing her" as a genuine, real, townie thought when Misty is not also indicating real support for a Mala lim. I'd almost prefer Misty over Mala solely on that point + me thinking the swap last night had to benefit scum in SOME fashion, but I am not going to derail the Mala wagon while it is leading.

I'd also be down for a misty wagon

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Unbelievable

That's all I really have to say

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So to summarize, the hood agreed to save Andres and everyone gave bomb defusal instructions, so at least one clearly lied, is that right?

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Why did each person in the hood decide to save Andres?

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As much as I would believe that, I literally explained in PT, why I thought that it wasn’t believing they were town, rather based on mechanics and an interaction that I noted.

Your thing was just you didn't think Andres/vpb was SvS but that's not exactly a hard to fabricate reason as scum

Do you seriously believe I would fabricate that as scum? And seriously, look at their interaction and tell me, yeah that is just a fabricated thought as scum.

You know why it matters because it could mean you gave the wrong info?

Why does "Andres + vpb are not SvS" make you want to defuse the bomb?

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mechanically it would make a ton of sense for scum vpb to blow up here just sayin

So we don't feel compelled to flip him?

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Explaining the Andres not SVS comes down to a simple idea. They were arguing a lot in the PT, I assumed they weren't SVS (They weren't), and I believed that there isn't 3 scum defuses (close to the wincon scum could go for but I don't know if they are) off of this. So it came down to if we defused this bomb, the defuses would be either 2, 1, or 0 scum defuses (I really don't want scum anywhere near that wincon at all), meaning it would likely be safe to defuse it that night.

Getting really tired of repeating myself there.

That just means it wouldn't have instalost us the game if you defused - that doesn't make defusing Andres the correct option there.

It's mostly just mind boggling that you don't have an independent read on Andres, even though you were in a hood with him and he was talked about a lot in the game thread

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Why did each person in the hood decide to save Andres?

I pressed andres reasonably hard about things in his play I found scummy and told him straight up that I went back and forth on whether I thought he should live. His responses were fairly AtE, but I could see them from a town perspective potentially and was leaning that way after the questions.

I also did some math on each of the scum win cons and how close they were to either, and decided that even if he was scum seeking their first defusal, it is about even for scum seeking either wincon at that point in terms of amount of days they have to play. So, I figured we get more info if we let him live than if we agreed to kill him.

How was his play in the PT any different from here in the game thread

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You jest but everyone who gets hooded with Andres ends up thinking he's town and I'm just sitting here like ???

Except strange didn't townread him in the hood but strange didn't seem to have anythinged him in the hood

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Why is dwlee scum?

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VOTE: strange matter

I just don't see how town would walk away from that hood without any real read on Andres and then choose to "defuse" the bomb with some left-field explanation

I also kind of believe vpb and dwlee when they say they could've just copped to blowing up Andres in the PT, since tbh that's probably what i would've done lol.

The way this played out, they basically stuffed themselves into this weird PoE

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I really don't care for ate so Im fine with that

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Cephrir's misty vote is a real mood. If going by day play, I'd vote there or Titus.

Not sure if we should be voting outside the pool of 3 defusers though today

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Not sure if we should be voting outside the pool of 3 defusers though today

Only reason would be if we thought someone goofed in their response or

if andres somehow messed up describing the bomb (which most likely isn't the case.)

yeah I don't know if this is even possible, since defusers have to accept the recommendations they were given

Spoiler:

@Datisi, does the defuser have to accept the recommendations of the experts?

yes. the defuser

must

accept the recommendations, and

cannot

submit solutions on their own.

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I think VP is saying Andres could have written down something about the bomb incorrectly. ex, the color of a component, or the serial code, etc.

oh right, that is a possibility, but agreed that it's unlikely

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VP you were a defuser, is the description of the bomb just something you get in that big paragraph or do you get a picture you need to manually sit down and write a description of?

You just get pictures and have to write it out. On my first bomb, I messed up describing one of the pictures, but someone (I think CSF) corrected me.

The only text on my bombs were the serial number and it told me if it had batteries or not.

How did CSF know that your description was wrong?

VP had to describe some pictures

The first half of his description could only have matched one picture

but the second half of his description switched up the words horizontal and vertical

So even though he messed up the description, I was still like 98% sure I knew which one he was referring to

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It doesn't hurt to cover our bases

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I currently wanna do Strange->Misty and then reassess from there, if that's 2/2 on scum then last scum probably feeling some low WIM right now

Is the Strange -> Misty order assuming Strange flips scum?

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Excited to hear who Misty and Titus think is scum in the group of 3

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I feel strange > vpb > dwlee in the hood

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If that's a result, we should all be voting vpb

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Andante!

We know that we have confirmed scum in strange/vpb/dwlee!

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UGH I don't know

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I haven't put much thought into this except misty is scum and cephrir/andante both town

VOTE: misty

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Misty is lurking hard rn

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Misty is so scummy by day play though

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I will either vote in hood or vote misty. I don't think we should start cat fighting over which to do when we're probably just arguing about which scum to lim first

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Misty's reason for scumreading me is literally that I'm the third vote on the mala wagon

That's it

That's the tweet

It's even worse when you realize I wasn't third on the mala wagon originally. I was only third at the end of the day because VPB hopped off and back on the mala wagon.

Anyway thank you for coming to my Ted talk

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HEAL: cephrir
HEAL: bell
HEAL: andante

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VOTE: strange

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UNVOTE:

Let's not rush the day

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Fly by posting from work

I am so confused by some of these heals

If y'all think you can read Titus better in a hood, then go ham but don't include me there since i don't think I can read Titus any better in a hood

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Also if Titus is in fact just lazy town, putting her in a hood feels like setting her up for the worlds easiest mislim