Last I heard, they could after meeting SE requirements.In post 285, Yume wrote:Alts aren't allowed to play in newbie queue.
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Terrible players that are babied by people that should know better only put otherwise good games at severe risk of being completely ruined.- House
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By terrible players, I mean Yume.
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It's not a notion, it's demonstrable fact that you wreck games.In post 295, Yume wrote:
Is this your idea of a joke? As soon as that game is done, I'll blow the notion that I ruin large games out of the water.In post 294, House wrote:By terrible players, I mean Yume.
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In post 297, Yume wrote:
It's also demonstrable that I don't.In post 296, House wrote:
It's not a notion, it's demonstrable fact that you wreck games.In post 295, Yume wrote:
Is this your idea of a joke? As soon as that game is done, I'll blow the notion that I ruin large games out of the water.In post 294, House wrote:By terrible players, I mean Yume.
By good games, I mean any outside of the newbie queue.
Aw, did somebody manage to not blow a game out of the water for her team once? Holy shit, stop the presses!Last edited by House on Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.- House
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If those human beings insist on ruining games, they deserve to be called out on it until they refrain from doing so or are stopped from doing so.In post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:you guys really need to get your shit together and consider others human beings as well- House
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I can link games in response, do we really want to go there?In post 307, Yume wrote:
I can't link that game, but I can link this oneIn post 305, House wrote:
If those human beings insist on ruining games, they deserve to be called out on it until they refrain from doing so or are stopped from doing so.In post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:you guys really need to get your shit together and consider others human beings as well
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Quote where I said anything of the sort or retract the remark please.In post 308, Frozen Angel wrote:You don't have any authority to repeatedly harrass her publickly though by stating this fact "she can't change" you can suggest her to play in newbie games as thats a good place for her to learn as well- House
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Saying someone doesn't deserve to be in games outside the newbie queue until they demonstrate a decent record IN the newbie queue is obviously accepting the possibility while also protecting games.- House
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^In post 314, Wisdom wrote:
over how much time? Shes had enough time already and her attitude has not changed one bitIn post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time
Frozen, she sent me a PM threatening to destroy Cowboy bebop if I didn't back off!- House
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I said YOU RUIN GAMES.In post 317, Yume wrote:You said I ruin large games.- House
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My fault, misinterpretation.In post 319, Frozen Angel wrote:
pm me that pleaseIn post 316, House wrote:
^In post 314, Wisdom wrote:
over how much time? Shes had enough time already and her attitude has not changed one bitIn post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time
Frozen, she sent me a PM threatening to destroy Cowboy bebop if I didn't back off!
Yume claimed your lieing
She threatened to break site rules.
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You do, there is no defense.In post 327, Yume wrote:You said I ruin games and I wasn't going to stand by and let you continue without defending myself!- House
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Keep reading, a correction was made.In post 344, Accountant wrote:
is this trueIn post 316, House wrote:
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over how much time? Shes had enough time already and her attitude has not changed one bitIn post 301, Frozen Angel wrote:the ruin part and if she doesn't know how to play is fixable over time
Frozen, she sent me a PM threatening to destroy Cowboy bebop if I didn't back off!- House
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AFTER THE FACT.In post 346, Yume wrote:Yes. That doesn't, however, excuse them from calling me 'trash' via PM.- House
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Aren't you talking a break?In post 349, Frozen Angel wrote:
what?In post 348, Wisdom wrote:
no it really isn't, it's just deflectionIn post 343, Frozen Angel wrote:see?! your saying they are just "as bad" so you agree you made some errors as well!
Thats the first step for improving. Isolate yourself and detect those errors! ignore the rest.
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Me putting pressure on you to build an honorable reputation in the newbie queue to show improvement DOES NOT JUSTIFY THREATS OF BREAKING SITE RULESIn post 359, Yume wrote:
I was put in that spot because a certain someone declined all my attempts to solve the situation otherwise.In post 354, Accountant wrote:
i think that when you are threatening to break site rules it goes a bit beyond being reasonableIn post 352, Yume wrote:What fact? The fact is that you have one game as evidence of me being unreasonable, while I have multiple games as evidence of being reasonable.- House
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That's OK that he shares his observation.In post 367, Frozen Angel wrote:
thats ok that you see it this wayIn post 366, Wisdom wrote:
I'm just saying what I'm seeingIn post 362, Frozen Angel wrote:but they can't just come out and claim "she can't change" !
Her attitude is the exact same as it was in the beginning
I see no change nor any attempts to change
so yeah
so what?
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She initiated the conversation with that threat.In post 369, Accountant wrote:
It doesn't matter what the exact wordnig of the message was. there's no possible situation where yume would threaten to break site rules without also endorsing a certain mentality that not everyone appreciates in a mafia gameIn post 364, Frozen Angel wrote:@acc you don't even know what the message was
It was reported to a listmod so back of very kindly. you have no place to talk about that- House
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You might want to warn your future protégés that I don't respond favorably to threats.In post 374, Frozen Angel wrote:
I have reasons to believe that was an empty threat trying to end the conversation and house harrasment. and who are you to talk about it anyway?In post 369, Accountant wrote:
It doesn't matter what the exact wordnig of the message was. there's no possible situation where yume would threaten to break site rules without also endorsing a certain mentality that not everyone appreciates in a mafia gameIn post 364, Frozen Angel wrote:@acc you don't even know what the message was
It was reported to a listmod so back of very kindly. you have no place to talk about that
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One game is not a pattern.In post 379, Yume wrote:
You ignored Freedom's Call, a finished game I linked you. Where is the guarantee that you won't ignore all the games in Newbie Queue where I show improvement just as easily?In post 365, House wrote:
Me putting pressure on you to build an honorable reputation in the newbie queue to show improvement DOES NOT JUSTIFY THREATS OF BREAKING SITE RULESIn post 359, Yume wrote:
I was put in that spot because a certain someone declined all my attempts to solve the situation otherwise.In post 354, Accountant wrote:
i think that when you are threatening to break site rules it goes a bit beyond being reasonableIn post 352, Yume wrote:What fact? The fact is that you have one game as evidence of me being unreasonable, while I have multiple games as evidence of being reasonable.
Forging ahead in your stubbornness to prove everybody wrong does not earn you the acceptance you clearly hunger for.
My suggestion only that, a suggestion. It would show good will not only towards the individual games, but the community at large, to use the newbie queue for a while to build up a reputation that Yume has indeed become a better player, and you will earn respect for that consideration from your largest detractors.
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Did I say you were harassing me?In post 393, Yume wrote:
No, but the moment I say something that someone doesn't like, they scream harassment. I PMed Kuroi saying stuff he didn't like. I was not threatening him in any way or something similar. I just said something he didn't like. He called it harassment.In post 386, Accountant wrote:
are you post restricted?In post 385, Yume wrote:
Apparently, said freedom doesn't extend to me.In post 383, Accountant wrote:
this is called the freedom of speechIn post 380, Frozen Angel wrote:Even I as the moderator of the game ; I have no opinion and won't express any sympathy with eaither side.
seriously why you think you have the right to talk about everything?
I didn't.
You brought that ugly accusation against me because I wouldn't just go away.
I have no desire to harass you. I'd like you to prove me wrong.- House
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The circumstances behind the threat of rule breaking are irrelevant to the fact it was in EXTREMELY poor taste and without regard for the well-being of the community to make any such remark.In post 400, Frozen Angel wrote:
Your idea is not correct! maybe it might be but you have no background to have an opinion on the matter! Its definitely ok to refuse whatever your saying on this matter !In post 397, Accountant wrote:if you're going to say "it's okay to refuse correct opinions because the person with the correct opinion has no power to enforce it", this is a ridiculous point of view.
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Don't worry, I filled Accountant in.In post 405, Frozen Angel wrote:I'm not defending anything!
I am the one who messages the listmod about the matter
I am saying someone with no idea what the hell happened has no right to judge it.
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Be a dear and quote me acting like I can enforce something.In post 409, Frozen Angel wrote:
still neither she , nor you has any right to judge if that was a site role vilation or not. You may hate yume as much as you want! you can't enforce anything so you shouldn't talk like you can!In post 407, House wrote:
Don't worry, I filled Accountant in.In post 405, Frozen Angel wrote:I'm not defending anything!
I am the one who messages the listmod about the matter
I am saying someone with no idea what the hell happened has no right to judge it.
Problem solved. Wasn't that easy?
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You certainly implied it in your rant towards me. After all, if I'm not doing what you are complaining about, why complain at me?In post 412, Frozen Angel wrote:Never said you ever tried that- House
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It's true though.In post 413, Frozen Angel wrote:
This is whats wrong!In post 376, Accountant wrote:even an empty threat would still embody a certain disrespect for the rules- House
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FA is like that judge on The Good Wife that requires lawyers to end assertions in "in my opinion".- House
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It's a joke.In post 422, Frozen Angel wrote:
I guess we're getting out of topic and I have no idea what your trying to ask me hereIn post 419, House wrote:FA is like that judge on The Good Wife that requires lawyers to end assertions in "in my opinion".
Great tv show, you should watch it so my snark isn't wasted on you.- House
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I won't lie, you're adorable.In post 421, Yume wrote:Hey, House. Here's a google form binding you. Select 'yes' and we're good to go
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Of course what we're saying is our opinion.In post 428, Frozen Angel wrote:
I will add that to my watch list maybeIn post 425, House wrote:It's a joke.
Great tv show, you should watch it so my snark isn't wasted on you.
still didn't understand what you tried to say though
That's implied by the fact we're saying it.
Unless we are leveling threats of consequences, we're not acting like we can enforce. It's just an opinion.- House
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I did choose yes seconds before other.In post 433, Yume wrote:
You choosing other makes your whole suggestion a load of bull. If you were genuine, you would have selected yes.In post 430, House wrote:
I won't lie, you're adorable.In post 421, Yume wrote:Hey, House. Here's a google form binding you. Select 'yes' and we're good to go
https://docs.google.com/forms/u/0/d/1JW ... gN47r9VoWk
Signed.
I chose Other the second time so I could type my name to show you that I signed it.
Stop being so negative.- House
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And I see none of that, so your point is... ?In post 435, Frozen Angel wrote:
I disagree there is acertain level of aggression in your criticizes and a the charisma of a judge in the way you all speaking. saying something is right or worng in your pov is not equal to saying its defintly wrong or definitly right and it must have X, Y , Z punishments forever!In post 432, House wrote:
Of course what we're saying is our opinion.In post 428, Frozen Angel wrote:
I will add that to my watch list maybeIn post 425, House wrote:It's a joke.
Great tv show, you should watch it so my snark isn't wasted on you.
still didn't understand what you tried to say though
That's implied by the fact we're saying it.
Unless we are leveling threats of consequences, we're not acting like we can enforce. It's just an opinion.
You all have your games for yourself and can enforce these stuff there. you can suggest punishments or enforcements and restrictions but nothing is definite!- House
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My head is still in traction and I can't be bashing it against walls right now.In post 437, Yume wrote:
Says someone who dismissed my arguments without even considering them.In post 434, House wrote:
I did choose yes seconds before other.In post 433, Yume wrote:
You choosing other makes your whole suggestion a load of bull. If you were genuine, you would have selected yes.In post 430, House wrote:
I won't lie, you're adorable.In post 421, Yume wrote:Hey, House. Here's a google form binding you. Select 'yes' and we're good to go
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Signed.
I chose Other the second time so I could type my name to show you that I signed it.
Stop being so negative.
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Yume, my remark was just a joke.In post 440, Yume wrote:If this is what this community truly thinks of me, why should I even bother? You and Wisdom will not budge even if I posted a hundred game links that show me being reasonable. Wisdom because he himself wasn't in any of those games and you because you are stubborn as hell.
I'm sorry that you didn't take it as such.- House
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I'm in line, Yume, as a sign of good faith I'll lay off.- House
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If you really want to paint me as a bastard, I'll point out how Titus had plenty of slots to join if you had been removed.In post 448, Yume wrote:Notice how he kept insisting even after I hydra-ed up? Proof that was willing to throw out someone else just to get rid of me.- House
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Don't be silly, I'm totally a bastard.
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Those in newbie games have the added bonus of not seeing me because I'm not allowed there anymore lol.In post 455, pieguyn wrote:I say this entirely irrelevant to the current discussion, but the newbie queue should be where players should be directed if they need to improve their play, full stop. the entire purpose of newbie games is to teach newbies good habits and provide a space where even if they err in a major way people will be constructive instead of critical about it, but that can be extended even to people who have been on site and played more than 3 (or whatever the SE limit) games.Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
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