Newbie 2059 - Scummer's Baking Championship (Baked Over)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

first

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Hi Skitter! :3

Happy to meet you Andante :3

I am glad this theme allows me to share some of my favorite baking videos.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well he does have them rest in the fridge for like 72 hours for the "flavor" to fully come out

I love his cinematography and the emotional connection he forms with his ingredients and the end result - it makes me feel like I am eating vicariously through him! :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes!

he takes such good care of his ingredients :3

happy vibes

I think I might try to make some brownies too just to get into the mood for this game.

Though it's probably because I would love some brownies after watching that @.@

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: George Bailey

because he must clearly be trying to hard to come up with the perfect entrance :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes we can move our votes around

it is tradition to randomly vote in the beginning to "feel things out"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

have you been getting lessons from Pengy :O

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I say give George a chance as he may live in a different time zone from us. I personally wouldn't vote for anyone on the first day.

we have to vote people though :3

it is part of the fun :>

I like Andante's train of thought on JV

++town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I never had a problem with your initial impression. In fact I agreed with you on Jackson's first line of thought. I just never pay attention to the beginning until maybe later on; I disagreed because of my personal gameplay and how I usually try to decipher mafia and etc. I guess you have a good defense on why you did it and etc.

This is a bit +scum

not sure what the point of this is ?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You shouldn't tell people you are reaction testing them when you are reaction testing them.

You should instead wave your arms in the air wildly and boldly and confidently declare they will definitely flip scum.*







*Might not always work

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Oh, I was just giving my initial thought on how I really thought of it because I actually like Andante's intellectual thought here on they are specifically trying to decipher mafia and stuff.

it feels a lot more meandery/hedgy :/

are you partnered with JV? :O

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I said I agreed with Andante's weird impression on JV on how that may look scum lmao.

I guess the way I read it, it felt like you were agreeing with his statement but also kind of dismissing it in a way by saying you don't look at early game stuff,

it's like you want to defend JV but you don't? you know what I mean? :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

btw for you newbies,

here at Mafiascum, the most precious things in a players's collection are

pagetops

.

You might have noticed Skitter was particularly happy to snatch the 2nd pagetop of the game.

You might be asking yourself,

Well what is a pagetop? And why is it so important?


Well a pagetop is the first post of each page.

It is significant because it signifies you were the first person to post on the page and your post will sit supreme on top of the page for all eternity lording over its SUPERIOR status to all other posts that will follow.

This is an important part of the game because a player that can dominate the game with grabbing more pagetops than anyone else is clearly very skilled, fortunate, good looking, and incredibly charismatic.

Unscrupulous players of low moral standards will sometimes double, triple or even quadruple post to snatch pagetops, but this kind of practice is mostly frowned upon by true pagetop connoisseurs as being unsporting and improper.




anyway here is the first official pagetop scoreboard for this game:

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have some townpings on grandpamo actually!

and i am currently winning the pagetop competition!!!
(assuming we discount cabd of course )

we can't disqualify the mod

unless he uses his like pagetop bot

>.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Right, but at the same time, it's unfair to vote for someone on day 1 when there's no evidence from games I've seen on here on who's scum and who's not.

we gotta break some eggs to make an omelette.

it is always optimal to elim someone rather than noone :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I dont think Fizz not wanting to vote is particularly +scum, I don't think its reasonable to expect no elim to actually happen

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

voting and pressure is usually how you catch bad guys though

you can't just sit around and hope bad guys will serve themselves up to you on a platter.
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if all the townies do nothing, and all the baddies do nothing, then we get nowhere :<

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Right, but at the same time, it's unfair to vote for someone on day 1 when there's no evidence from games I've seen on here on who's scum and who's not.

again it's not about fairness per-se

it's just something that has to be done

action creates reaction

reaction helps us find bad guys

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

usually how the game works is

9 alive -> 1 elim, 1 nightkill -> 7 alive -> 1 elim, 1 nightkill -> 5 alive -> 1 elim (game is over here if we do not elim any scum). - so we have 3 elims to catch any scum, if we miss on 3 elims we lose the game.

If we instead no elim today,

9 alive -> 0 elim, 1 nightkill -> 8 alive -> 1 elim, 1 nightkill -> 6 alive -> 1 elim(game is over here if we do not elim any scum) - we end up only having 2 elims to catch any scum if we no-elim on the first day.

Hence why elimming is better than not elimming.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Fizz,

if everyone like didn't vote and didn't say anything

we would have no information to go off of. We would be kinda blind!

that's not great

you have to get involved in the game to have fun :>

what do you think of the people who have spoken so far?

who do you think is more likely town or more likely scum? what are your reasons?

when you write it out, it makes it easier for the town to figure out if you are town or scum based on how the thought process feels.

The game is just for fun! there is nothing to lose if you are wrong :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm more curious about VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear.

Hi!

what are you curious about?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have waited so long for you Ahri!

and this pagetop :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm fairly sure the mafia are professional ringers who are trying to crush us at baking or w/e

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I know I am innocent and can do no harm.

My lack of baking ability is legendary.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

skitter here however is a self professed pro who bakes brownies for her friends.

she could very well be the ringer we are looking for. >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is a scumfession if i've ever heard one!

:3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

chocolate crinkle btw is code for mafia

since everyone knows townies are

vanilla

flavored

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i make very good chocolate crinkle cookies!

I am now looking for cookies online

>.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

https://sallysbakingaddiction.com/doubl ... e-cookies/
these ones!

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to have some real content: i don't like people calling fizz scum here for her reluctance to flip someone

I am going to make these just to prove I am terrible at baking.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Sup batch files, I have returned back to newbie games.

pepega SE

we have a ringer here >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

uh

clearly caught scum here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

she's got that skeptical look she gets when she can't tell if I'm serious or joking

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ahri is clearly the alt of some oldhand shitposter

which is kinda weird cuz how is she even playing in the newbie section? ~.~

could it be the dread [REDACTED] player!?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well now I just have to make those chocolate crinkle cookies. :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

just upload the picture to a discord server and then right click copy link.

i use a server for all my picture links

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

those look adorable and delicious!

you must be some kind of ringer

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this townblock is building itself quite nicely :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

but more importantly:



we have a lot of work to do if we are to catch our dread overlord Cabd !

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

but more importantly:



we have a lot of work to do if we are to catch our dread overlord Cabd !

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im ok with townreading fizz for the reaction :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Uh, sorry for the late entrance, real life is a thing sometimes.

I say give George a chance as he may live in a different time zone from us. I personally wouldn't vote for anyone on the first day.

I love this post and everything about this post. You are town.

I like the happy vibes of this post :3

VOTE: noone

it is time for yet another video of deliciousness.

This time it is from a little Donut Shop in Brooklyn <3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

skitter do you think Grandpa was doing a fake dumbtell with that question or he really didn't know how many bad guys there were?

cuz it feels like a fake dumbtell to me the way he said it :/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think the scum team might just be grandpa and JV

i might not summon the energy to write out the case depending on how lazy i feel

i mean who am i kidding

i am like asleep off my sugar high from delicious donuts so i probably wont wake up.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean I don't expect you to be like.

"yea you caught us man, dang how did you do it?"

skitter help

look at these delicious donuts I ended up buying



I'm in a sugar coma >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not gonna pretend like I can read her.

She just feels so pleasant and nice :>

she posted pictures of cookies she

made herself

I mean can you really vote for something that wholesome and sweet on Day 1?

I can't.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dunno I guess I am just a sucker for Andante's AtE >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it seems like such an over the top reaction for like 1 vote lol

its way easier for scum to just ignore you :/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean lets say he doesn't know that and he's just a newb who doesn't know how to handle pressure / vote.

Does this type of reaction come more from newb scum or newb town?

I'd think it's more likely from newb town who is like super exasperated and truly doesn't think there's any good reason for why you would vote him.

whereas newb scum might actually like try to figure out how you figured out it was them? Since there is an underlying sense in newb scum that they know you are right.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I would be big sad if skitter was scum.

Good thing she is town this game :3

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skitter what are you doing >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why am i town?

I already put my solve in as Grandpa/JV and there's only 2 mafia in the game lol

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you know what >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

don't play coy with me young lady..

you know exactly what I'm talking about:

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yea nobody is going to have a chance to catch him at this rate >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@pooky

: Is your scum read on Mo/Jackson genuine -- even to say there's only one between them?

yea ofc I only do genuine scumreads

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok who do you want to elim today?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea me too

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am aligned with the town :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

which i guess since I think andante is town would make your statement true

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think I've already explained why I tr andante ?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@pooky you said this r.e. andante but like i really disagree and find this very unsatisfying

ok well I'll sheep ya if you feel like super strongly about it :>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So explain to me you guys as someone who's never played mafia and want to get better at playing the game; how do you do reads? I want to help, but I don't know how to do this.

well you read what people are posting and you type what you think about it.

like you say if you think skitter is "town" or "mafia" based on the thought process she posts in whatever post she makes and explain why you think this is town or scum,

like as you're reading the thread and something jumps out to you as a "townie" thought or a "scummy" post etc, you just type in that you think this and why you think it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

uh i have sheeped you so many times as town I can't even count

and I have never sheeped you as scum >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Happy Scumday Skitts! :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

14x posting to get a pagetop

if this isnt scum i dunno what is

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Are you ever going to actually try or just pointlessly shade people

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I've always thought Grandpa is scummity scum :>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you feel too explainy in an artificial kind of way :>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

enh i'll sheep skitter

you can never get fired for sheeping skitter

VOTE: skitter

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wait i messed that up

VOTE: andante

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sigh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wow

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wow

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Spoiler: Why Andante is clearly Scum

actually here's some music instead:



Townlock Pooky for posting great music yes yes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you dont have to work out exactly who is bad and who is good fizz

its just guessing and laying out your thought process

nothing bad about being wrong

every1 gets things wrong :2


we get better by trying

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why are you referencing something that happened around 200 posts ago?.... didn't you already respond to fizz before.

I am a time traveling bear

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i will be around b4 deadline to switch my vote if we need to get an elim

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i wanted grandpa but im willing to compromise

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

nope

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that would be lit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not gonna lie I had trouble reading 676 because my eyes can't handle something that long.

also congrats JV!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm so glad you're here to do the work I'm too lazy to do :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the great thing about trusting someone is that you don't have to do the busy work yourself!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im so bad at this :<

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm just sheeping skitter on Andante rn

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

next level

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

he's a programmer so I'm not sure if this is manual or if he has set up a bot that automatically snipes pagetops.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Cabd is top tier for sure

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: whemestar

Lol from trying to hammer andante to trying to kill me without skipping a beat

W I l D

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hey im halfway done writing. finished all the iso reads. will start on the other part of my analysis tmr i rlly need to go to sleep. but so far i do not like what is happening these past 2 days. Pooky why switch to wheme that quick? Werent me and JV your gamesolve? So does that imply that your vote wasn't serious? You vote someone who was scumread by the person you were voting... JV you vote the person that was wanting to get voted by me who you scumread as well. These are some weird ass pivots please stick to you actually think is scum.

skitter said you r town

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thats definitely my meta :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can’t trust anyone who sheep’s skitter after 2057 o.o

the town in 2057 did not listen to skitter and they lost horribly.

specifically she did not vote for any of the three mis-elims that happened...

i have played a lot of games with skitter and she is one of the nicest and best players I've ever played with.

She is a great person and she is also try-hard enough to actually effort in every game she plays.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its hard to catch scum when the town plays super scumsidey :/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Does this make him scum tho?

sure he's just openwolfing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Also - pooky do u have any reads independant of mine?

I think you're town :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im just glad i'm still alive on page 32 :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes cabd is asleep mwahahhaa

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that was a joke about dying a horrible death last time :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm probably, like, not the besf at reading wheme but i think he just has a scummy playstyle tbh

theres nothing wrong with elimming someone with a scummy playstyle who is playing scummily in a game where you have townleans/townreads on many others.

do you still want to kill andante?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ah! Fair enuf!

I still think you're being a lot more secretive than you need to be tho

i am an open book actually!

i am just very lazy :> atm and the game has slowed down dramatically

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like wheme literally tried to hammer andante despite andante not claiming

then turned around and voted one of the people voting andante

thats not a progression that makes sense from a town perspective

sure you can excuse it by saying oh thats just wheme playing scummy but like um... how r u supposed to ever catch wheme scum then?

just let him win every time as scum just cuz his townplay is also scummy?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Well i can safely say i want to flip andante more than wheme

And fair abt the game slowing down but idk what your reads are (other than you townreading me + sheeping me)

ok what has andante done thats more scum indicative than what wheme has done?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can’t trust anyone who sheep’s skitter after 2057 o.o

the more i think about this take the more I get upset about it.

like this is such a disgusting discredit and I think you should apologize to skitter for it.

2057 was not in any way skitter's fault and the fact that you are trying to use it to do whatever you're doing is wrong.

here's what happened in 2057 for those who don't know:

D1: A bunch of newbie townies randomly decided to quicklynch me(town) like 12 hours into the game without waiting for a claim..

D2: One of the newb townies who voted me decided to

fake guilty result

on another one of the newbie townies who voted me out - the person with the fake guilty result on them got eliminated (obviously)

D3: The newb townie who faked the guilty result got elimmed for faking the guilty result (obviously)

Wheme was one of the scum who won.


At no point in any of this sequence of events could you reasonably expect skitter or any good competent mafia player to somehow salvage this trainwreck of a game where a few newb-town threw about as hard as I've ever seen any newb-town throw.

So to use this to discredit her and say you don't trust me for sheeping her is just disgusting.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like there are some games like this one where people take time to write out their thoughts and reason with each other like this one.

Skitter will actually read what they say and have a pretty good idea of whether they are scum or not.

and then there's trainwrecks like 2057 where people just quick-elim and fake guilties and do all sorts of nonsense that makes the game completely impossible to figure out.

trying to conflate the two scenarios is just ridiculous and saying skitter can't be trusted is just ridiculous

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wheme realistically gives the most information out of any elim today

if wheme flips scum this probably means skitter is town and her townreads are good/right and we have a cakewalk victory because that's the only reason wheme-scum would be discrediting her so hard here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Everybody always says "@MOD" but nobody says "how ya doin mod" :/

how you doing mod?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

And uh i appreciate you like defending me r.e. 2057 but i didnt really take offense to it or anything, it was a weird game but i also didnt find the scumz so fair enuf all around

I know you wouldn't take offense to it because you're incredibly nice.

but I thought it was a very scum-motivated discredit if you are town here and your town reads are correct because wheme doesn't want to get POE'd out

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you're too nice :<

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't believe you

your progression on my slot is scummy

i still think you are scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yeessss

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

<3 Andante

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so good

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

fizz u need to vote for somebody

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you need to vote someone because if you don't vote we r going to run out of time :/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

fizz its not that useful to vote for someone with no votes when we r this close to the deadline :/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but at this point you need to vote a compromise because if we don't get 5 votes on someone, that results in no elimination and no elimination is a really really really bad result for town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you shouldn't vote for me cuz I'm town :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

vote for Andante or Whemestar plz

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz i think you are scum?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we have ~9 hours to go.

Grandpa and JV you need to pick between Wheme and Andante

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not scum and you dont have the votes for me

pick one

no elim is basically gamethrowing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dont need to look good

i need an elimination

you are not going to eliminate me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

refusing to compromise when we r 9 hours out from deadline is just bad play

it doesnt matter if you curse at me or whatever

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what's the point of this vitriolic tirade JV?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

when its 9h to deadline then yes we kind of need to compromise.

that's just how the game is played.

No elim is much worse than a town elim on D1.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what are you so angry about?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im a friendly neighbor dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean i prefer whemestar but i'll vote andante if thats what it takes to prevent no elim

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its 4 votes on wheme and 3 votes on andante

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i crumbed it in the first video i posted

the dude is making brownies for his

friend's

birthday.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

6 hours to go >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i set an alarm i will try to be awake tomm morning

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thanks for modding Cabd!

thanks for replacing in Catboi <3

HoG's posts in the scum PT are crazy :O

I shall miss him :<