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An RVS no?In post 19, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Vanilla Town is the best role because not only do I get to give zero fucks about drawing the nightkill, it's actually good for me to draw it.
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I've played chat Mafia, and I've been keeping up with some of the games. It's a very different feel for sure.In post 32, Lukewarm wrote:
Have you played IRL? Or have you read games on site?In post 30, StrangeMatter wrote:At this point I've never tried Forum Mafia before, so I'm not too confident myself about this game.- StrangeMatter
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Correct.In post 55, Haschel Cedricson wrote:You are saying that your vote on Hockeyfan was RVS, correct?- StrangeMatter
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Yes. Wasn't really meant for anything in the first place.In post 60, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
And immediately before that vote, you asked a question about our confidence in winning the game, correct?In post 58, StrangeMatter wrote:
Correct.In post 55, Haschel Cedricson wrote:You are saying that your vote on Hockeyfan was RVS, correct?- StrangeMatter
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To be honest, I had two thoughts come up, and one was that question that meant little for the game, and playing how I would normally do, usually RVS.In post 63, Haschel Cedricson wrote:So why ask it?
Right now it looks like you asked an RQS question to try and gauge alignment and then voted for somebody who hadn't had a chance to interact yet, and then dodged followup questions about it.- StrangeMatter
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I find it easier to get a grasp of who I can assume is Town once there's a lot on several players to POE and make it easier to pick out scum.In post 72, Lukewarm wrote:
This is the exact opposite of how I approach games lolIn post 69, StrangeMatter wrote:I'd prefer to do Town reads later, and focus on what we think about possible scum reads/leans right now.
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Not all that great, when I've played several chat Mafia games and haven't done all that well.In post 79, Lukewarm wrote:@HockeyFan, what is your experience with Mafia?- StrangeMatter
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I'm really not too sure about HockeyFan. To me he seems Town, but I'm very leaning away with his partner reads right now. will bet on saying Zyla's a decently good town read, as much as I wish we had scumreads, this is the best we can do.
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I don’t mean it like it’s a bad thing, that was poor wording. Partners, to me, is a way to start with weak reads early, and progress into better reads and such.In post 100, HockeyFan wrote:
What is wrong with partnery reads? Imo you and Luke were paired because of his post #24. Also your response to Haschel's questioning seemed a bit off(More null than scummy) but still a bit scummy.In post 93, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm really not too sure about HockeyFan. To me he seems Town, but I'm very leaning away with his partner reads right now. will bet on saying Zyla's a decently good town read, as much as I wish we had scumreads, this is the best we can do.
This game has been a messy and not too great for me. For now, good night.
As for Azeru's and cyrus's opening, Azeru's was maybe town leaning? And Cyrus's posts were interesting, I really don't know how to gauge them just yet, so hes probably null rn- StrangeMatter
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Partially no, that isn't fully what I mean. The problems I have emphasis on post 24, ignoring a question possibly why, and a conclusion that Luke is a strong scum read from partners.In post 104, Azeru wrote:
Can you clarify this a little more? I'm still not 100% sure exactly where you stand on this, but my understanding is that you have no problem with partner reads in general, you just didn't like the ones that HockeyFan was suggesting. Is that right?In post 103, StrangeMatter wrote:
I don’t mean it like it’s a bad thing, that was poor wording.In post 100, HockeyFan wrote:
What is wrong with partnery reads? Imo you and Luke were paired because of his post #24. Also your response to Haschel's questioning seemed a bit off(More null than scummy) but still a bit scummy.In post 93, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm really not too sure about HockeyFan. To me he seems Town, butI'm very leaning away with his partner reads right now.will bet on saying Zyla's a decently good town read, as much as I wish we had scumreads, this is the best we can do.
This game has been a messy and not too great for me. For now, good night.
As for Azeru's and cyrus's opening, Azeru's was maybe town leaning? And Cyrus's posts were interesting, I really don't know how to gauge them just yet, so hes probably null rnPartners, to me, is a way to start with weak reads early, and progress into better reads and such.- StrangeMatter
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Based off your questions for me, and likely the start that I had early on.In post 117, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
Can you restate why Strange is scum?In post 114, HockeyFan wrote: Strange Matter is the scummier one right now but STD is very close to being as scummy Strange rn(although as of right now, the read on STD can change a ton based on their next few posts, unlike the Strange SR from me rn)- StrangeMatter
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I really need to ask this, but why did you push HockeyFan earlier? Just wondering.
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And what if the real PRs are outted, then what?In post 168, cyrus62 wrote:
saids who? we know theirs only two prs so if scum slip and clime something then the real prs will know and bam caught the scum.In post 165, Lukewarm wrote:
Claiming early is bad for us...In post 163, cyrus62 wrote:
you scared if they start ?In post 158, Lukewarm wrote:
This is way too early for anyone to be claimingIn post 137, cyrus62 wrote:or at lest say l1 and then tell them to clime.
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Not sure, both are completely plausible but his grammar feels absolutely intentionally like that.In post 184, HockeyFan wrote:
Do u think hes not being serious as town or is just deliberately wasting towns time as scum?In post 183, StrangeMatter wrote:At this point I think he’s not even being serious.- StrangeMatter
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Opinion of the game so far.In post 199, HockeyFan wrote:
Idk what u mean by "opinion". You asking for my reads or just my general opinion of the game?In post 198, StrangeMatter wrote:@HockeyFan what’s your opinion of the game so far?- StrangeMatter
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As a side note, I definitely get what you mean as a whole, early Town Blocks are very powerful with good circumstances. It could absolutely seem that I don’t want a town block. However, I was more thinking along the lines that later building a consensus on who is town later in theory makes it difficult for scum to act. As for scum reads, I struggle with that a lot, so I said my intention, but really don’t know where to go right now considering the current conversation.In post 266, Lukewarm wrote:Snip
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What do you think Mafia would do next with this information?In post 286, Save The Dragons wrote:this game has new pages
cyrus isn't the play today
i still like hockey for town, i like the way he is engaging the game, it just feels like it's coming from town. same with zyla. luke's push on strangematter seems legit.
i'm less convinced about haschel atm. i want to hear more from azeru. i don't quite like 268 i get that it's early and not based on much but it does seem a little forced. strangematter is null for me.
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The goal, was to get people’s experience as Mafia to get an understanding what Mafia would do in situations that happened like the mess with Cyrus. I worded it really horribly by not adding specifics, but it was to gauge who was and wasn’t doing that action.In post 293, HockeyFan wrote:
I dont like this question much tbh. I think hes just baiting answers from certain town members SO him(less likely) or his maf partner can start not doing these thingsIn post 290, StrangeMatter wrote:What do you think Mafia will do in this current situation.- StrangeMatter
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I bet he’s probably the latter right now. Taking a possible 1v7 with PRs still in play is a terrible place. I really can’t see a benefit that is better or fine in this scenario. I just don’t see an experienced player pulling this.In post 295, Lukewarm wrote:
If cyrus is scum, then I have no idea what the scum team would do right now.In post 294, StrangeMatter wrote:
The goal, was to get people’s experience as Mafia to get an understanding what Mafia would do in situations that happened like the mess with Cyrus. I worded it really horribly by not adding specifics, but it was to gauge who was and wasn’t doing that action.In post 293, HockeyFan wrote:
I dont like this question much tbh. I think hes just baiting answers from certain town members SO him(less likely) or his maf partner can start not doing these thingsIn post 290, StrangeMatter wrote:What do you think Mafia will do in this current situation.
If cyrus in town, then the scum team would probably try to push him out, thinking he would be an easy Day 1 miselim at this point - which I realize now a great look for me, seeing as how I voted cyrus- StrangeMatter
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So wait, you think my change from a scum lean to a town lean is distancing? Based off what HockeyFan gave reasonings for scum reads were weird, but in the has the right idea for a town mindset for scum hunting. Also, I think you’re forgetting other interactions that would point otherwise that you’re leaving out?In post 330, Pavowski wrote:I guess I could've figured that out if I scrolled back a little bit. Have I mentioned posting from a phone is suboptimal?
I don't like leaving my vote in limbo so I'm gonna put it on my top scum read for the moment. VOTE: strange
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What does this even mean???In post 408, Save The Dragons wrote:not everyone veers every read. go on, not now all. get in very easily yesterday on under under pain. not everyone veers every read! go on, not now all. lose everything to yesterday on under. don't over worry now.- StrangeMatter
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Let me clear this up really quick.In post 436, Pavowski wrote:StrangeMatter wrote:@Pavowski can you explain what you thought about post 330, with that distancing act?
Sure.StrangeMatter wrote:Correction, what was your thought process that came about when you made post 330?
You RVS'd Hockey right out of the gate. Okay, random voting is a thing, cool.
In #49 you say you're actually wondering about them.
You accidentally answer a question directed at Hockeyfan (80). (I believe this was innocent.)
In #86 you ask Hockeyfan why Luke would defend you. (This is odd.)
You have a few posts about partners, then reiterate your question from #86 in #109.
In #138 you ask why Haschel is going in on Hockeyfan.
In #198 you ask Hockeyfan his opinion of the game.
Throughout all that you interact with the thread in general but seem to be *really* focused on Hockeyfan. You get a little bit bogged down with the Cyrus stuff (who hasn't), then you turn your attention on me, apparently because I pointed out your interest in Hockeyfan.
You sus him, then you defend him, then you buddy up to him. It smells fishy.
I'm on you at present because you're the fishiest thing I see in the thread so far, outside of the red herring I am trying very hard not to waste any more brain power on right now.
To explain post #86, his logic felt a bit weird, based off saying Luke defending me, which to me seemed like a joke post. As for post #138, it was a question that I felt could in turn gauge their intent and see if it was reasonable or not.
As for the changes in reads, that, is mostly up to reading players for me. Given enough time, I change reads based off what the person does that I see as Townie or Scummy. I can’t change if you think I am buddying, but I am not.
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I really need them to talk more to formulate anything on them. Null. Kind of wished they pressure people from their scum reads though.In post 437, HockeyFan wrote:@Pav, can you expain rq again why u have a slight town read on STD.
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To say I care about small things a lot is an understatement. However, I will point out as a self meta that I won’t buddy as scum, especially considering I don’t and definitely wouldn’t have the skill to pull off a buddying as a play.In post 443, Pavowski wrote:
I mean, I was giving out a few brief reads since a few people wanted to see them. I wasn't making a big deal of it (there's something to be said for not sharing EVERYTHING you're thinking), but you did ask.In post 439, StrangeMatter wrote:
Let me clear this up really quick.In post 436, Pavowski wrote:StrangeMatter wrote:@Pavowski can you explain what you thought about post 330, with that distancing act?
Sure.StrangeMatter wrote:Correction, what was your thought process that came about when you made post 330?
You RVS'd Hockey right out of the gate. Okay, random voting is a thing, cool.
In #49 you say you're actually wondering about them.
You accidentally answer a question directed at Hockeyfan (80). (I believe this was innocent.)
In #86 you ask Hockeyfan why Luke would defend you. (This is odd.)
You have a few posts about partners, then reiterate your question from #86 in #109.
In #138 you ask why Haschel is going in on Hockeyfan.
In #198 you ask Hockeyfan his opinion of the game.
Throughout all that you interact with the thread in general but seem to be *really* focused on Hockeyfan. You get a little bit bogged down with the Cyrus stuff (who hasn't), then you turn your attention on me, apparently because I pointed out your interest in Hockeyfan.
You sus him, then you defend him, then you buddy up to him. It smells fishy.
I'm on you at present because you're the fishiest thing I see in the thread so far, outside of the red herring I am trying very hard not to waste any more brain power on right now.
To explain post #86, his logic felt a bit weird, based off saying Luke defending me, which to me seemed like a joke post. As for post #138, it was a question that I felt could in turn gauge their intent and see if it was reasonable or not.
As for the changes in reads, that, is mostly up to reading players for me. Given enough time, I change reads based off what the person does that I see as Townie or Scummy. I can’t change if you think I am buddying, but I am not.
I’m wondering why you didn’t say this earlier right now, considering the original post said very weird.
And this is me making a note that you're particularly concerned in how we all see this relationship.
Of course reads change! Mine are changing all the time. It's the how, and the when, and the why, that are interesting.- StrangeMatter
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Hm, rethinking it now, I could see only a few reasons to take some pressure off me. None of them really are seem reasonable outside of the thought that they’re a newbie and need some help. Even then it is weird to me he said it in the first place, and something that almost never happens.In post 477, cyrus62 wrote:Hey save the Dragons
Why were you so upset with the way strange was being questioned so hard o page 3
Do you always defend newbie this way.
@strange,you didn't find it odd how sad was jumping in for you I mean how often do people tell se,s to give newbies some slack when they are voting them. Lukewarm why the need to jump in there . Std how were you so sure you found so many town reads so soon? Zyla you kinda seem odd here too, the way you said wow I can't believe how many reads already i thought I would have till tomorrow in rl . Then the way std basically said the same thing or was that lukewarm?- StrangeMatter
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Well, it's mostly just something I thought up about right now. It was more about what could in theory been gained from this vote. If I remember correctly, a few scum reads on me were about buddying, involving people talking about possible partners. If it means getting information, I'm all for it. Only really a thought though.In post 604, Azeru wrote:
What's the point of this question? Specifically when asked now. The only votes you've had on you since post 330 have been Pav and Luke, and they've just been sitting there. Cyrus voted you for a quick stint between 435 and 449, but that was for all of two hours and only 14 posts between them. I just don't get why you're bringing this up now.In post 531, StrangeMatter wrote:I am just wondering, what would we get, from voting me right now?- StrangeMatter
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