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Already found a confident town, SVD is townIn post 13, Save The Dragons wrote:are we doing rqs instead of rvs?
i feel confident town will win, how's that?- HockeyFan
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I'm very confident winning this game now because you have outed as scum by voting me so the 2 mafia are already outed to meIn post 9, StrangeMatter wrote:Here's a random question to everyone.
How confident or nervous are you about winning this game?- HockeyFan
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This pings me as being a partnery interaction/maybe a pocket from Luke, possible scum in these 2In post 29, Lukewarm wrote:
Oh Zyla, must we always be on opposing sides?In post 28, Zyla wrote:
Honestly, it's hard to be confident at this stage, but Luke is a pretty good player, so if he's on the Town side I'm pretty optimisticIn post 9, StrangeMatter wrote:Here's a random question to everyone.
How confident or nervous are you about winning this game?
On the other hand, it would be hilarious if he were the scum this gameIn post 14, Lukewarm wrote:
I would say decently confident. I am coming into this game off of a pretty good game. Town win on Day 2In post 9, StrangeMatter wrote:Here's a random question to everyone.
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Ahh Ok so its a meta read? Makes a little more sense, although I still SR luke a bit(less than before AND almost leaning null rn), because thier opening didnt sound that genuine from a townie perspectiveIn post 35, Zyla wrote:Yeah, it depends on the particular game too, but it can be pretty fun
Nah, we just finished Newbie 2065 so we're joking about itIn post 33, HockeyFan wrote:Spoiler: snip
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yes! Would love to hear some of your reads(If you have them)In post 36, StrangeMatter wrote:So I take it this is the point where the game goes from silly and random talk to about the game at hand?- HockeyFan
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Got it, thanks! Yea so that post is now NAI to meIn post 41, Lukewarm wrote:
For reference, in our last game zyla was scum, and I caught her because she kept mentioning masons, and I realized she was mason hunting.In post 39, HockeyFan wrote:Ahh Ok so its a meta read? Makes a little more sense, although I still SR luke a bit(less than before AND almost leaning null rn), because thier opening didnt sound that genuine from a townie perspective- HockeyFan
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Definitely not conclusive reads, but I think you are town(See post#18). This is the only conclusive read I have. The earlier read I did have of Luke maybe pocketing Zyla has now been sent to null, wbu? Do u have any readsIn post 45, Save The Dragons wrote:you guys have reads already?- HockeyFan
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What part of the vote did you not like?In post 52, Save The Dragons wrote:i like haschel a little less for the vote
strangematter, i think haschel wants your attention- HockeyFan
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I think this mindset is super towny. While I dont necessarily Strange is scum(null leaning atm), thats a town mindset from haschel and gets a lean TR from me(Tbf, I am not sure if this is smth he can do as scum)In post 57, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
I gave some slack, thus the empty quote.In post 56, Save The Dragons wrote:i guess it's a natural progression of asking a question and not getting an answer so maybe it's okay
i just think haschel might know give a newbie a little slack when it comes to not answering but maybe now strangematter will answer
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Speaking of this RVS vote, I think strange and luke actually have some pairing here. When Haschel asked the question "Why Hockeyfan", Luke decided to interject(post 24), and that feels like a very partnery thing to do when he could have just ignored it.
With that being said, i think it is time to vote Luke
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In post 70, Zyla wrote:Honestly, I was expecting to have to wait until IRL tomorrow to have some reads either direction, but I guess I got a strong one early.
I find it interesting that you mention my question but don't actually respond to either of themIn post 15, HockeyFan wrote: With that being said, I will vote Zyla for stealing my question
VOTE: Zyla
I mentioned it because I was going to ask the "Do you like pineapple on pizza" question and it seemed completely NAI but I wanted to see a reaction by voting u. I didn't bother to respond to the other one. I do not know why ignoring a RQS post is scum leaning?
What makes Dragon town from this post? If anything the wording is slightly off for townIn post 18, HockeyFan wrote:
Already found a confident town, SVD is townIn post 13, Save The Dragons wrote:are we doing rqs instead of rvs?
i feel confident town will win, how's that?
ehhh while the wording may be off, I think his original post was towny enough and this read was pretty lackluster anyways so theres no need to pay too much attention to it
What do you mean by this?In post 66, HockeyFan wrote: Counterwagon this ASAPThere were a few votes on the table(cant exactly remember who), but none of them were on Luke and I thought Luke was scummy so I wanted to counterwagon Luke
Also, speaking about SVD:I did call him town earlier but after seeing post#52 and post#56 idk about that anymore, He was trying to soft defend his possible scum partner so SVD is back to null leaning scum. I also really liked this questioning by Zyla and I feel like scum dont try to push on someone who was already TR'D by 1-2 people.- HockeyFan
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ngl, It didnt even occur there was a T in your name, I just saw a V for some reason, sorry about that!In post 77, Save The Dragons wrote:you can call me STD i don't mind- HockeyFan
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Ok so, I town read STD because of post#13. That post had the aura of being "I am town, I'm confident and I am going to win this game for town". My read switched on him because of posts #52 and #56 where he said "strangematter, i think haschel wants your attention" and "i just think haschel might know give a newbie a little slack when it comes to not answering". These 2 statements feel like very mafia partnery like to relieve some pressureIn post 84, Lukewarm wrote:HockeyFan, I am trying to follow your read progression on STD. Can you explain it more. You gave him a really early "confident town read," then backed it off of it with
Who is he protecting there? Strangematter? Do you even scum read Strangematter? I thought I was your strongest scum read, at least you are voting me, so then why would you be of particularly suspicious of his interaction with Strangematter and haschel?In post 74, HockeyFan wrote:Also, speaking about SVD:I did call him town earlier but after seeing post#52 and post#56 idk about that anymore, He was trying to soft defend his possible scum partner so SVD is back to null leaning scum. I also really liked this questioning by Zyla and I feel like scum dont try to push on someone who was already TR'D by 1-2 people.
Can you walk me through your thinking?
As of right now, Strangematter is a null read for me(maybe leaning scum), You are my strongest scum read, so does that mean i'm not allowed to see other pairs in partnership because fwiw the strangematter/STD pair seemed very likely. I was suspicious because I have 0 idea why STD Needs to intervene their. Like my SR'S rn are You -> STD -> StrangeMatter. Hope this helps. and btw, My read on u might change back to null soon based on theinteractions between strange and STD
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In post 87, Zyla wrote:
Ignoring is NAI, but mentioning it and not responding seemed a little off to me.In post 74, HockeyFan wrote:
I mentioned it because I was going to ask the "Do you like pineapple on pizza" question and it seemed completely NAI but I wanted to see a reaction by voting u. I didn't bother to respond to the other one. I do not know why ignoring a RQS post is scum leaning?In post 70, Zyla wrote:Honestly, I was expecting to have to wait until IRL tomorrow to have some reads either direction, but I guess I got a strong one early.
I find it interesting that you mention my question but don't actually respond to either of themIn post 15, HockeyFan wrote: With that being said, I will vote Zyla for stealing my question
VOTE: Zyla
I would still like to know though, do you prefer mafia or town?
I prefer town
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ehhh while the wording may be off, I think his original post was towny enough and
What makes Dragon town from this post? If anything the wording is slightly off for townIn post 18, HockeyFan wrote:
Already found a confident town, SVD is townIn post 13, Save The Dragons wrote:are we doing rqs instead of rvs?
i feel confident town will win, how's that?this read was pretty lackluster anyways so theres no need to pay too much attention to it
Honestly, while I'm not going to remember every read in the game, I don't think I want to just dismiss one, they can be pretty important
Fair enough but I dont think a read 13-15 posts into the game should be substantive late game but thats just me?
I'm not entirely sure you understand wagons
There were a few votes on the table(cant exactly remember who), but none of them were on Luke and I thought Luke was scummy so I wanted to counterwagon Luke
What do you mean by this?In post 66, HockeyFan wrote: Counterwagon this ASAPOk you may be right in saying I dont, Instead of using "counterwagon", I'll just say I wanted to vote them because of the reasons above- HockeyFan
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What is wrong with partnery reads? Imo you and Luke were paired because of his post #24. Also your response to Haschel's questioning seemed a bit off(More null than scummy) but still a bit scummy.In post 93, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm really not too sure about HockeyFan. To me he seems Town, but I'm very leaning away with his partner reads right now. will bet on saying Zyla's a decently good town read, as much as I wish we had scumreads, this is the best we can do.
This game has been a messy and not too great for me. For now, good night.
As for Azeru's and cyrus's opening, Azeru's was maybe town leaning? And Cyrus's posts were interesting, I really don't know how to gauge them just yet, so hes probably null rn- HockeyFan
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In post 109, StrangeMatter wrote:See post 86. So @HockeyFan, can you please explain why you think Luke would be scum defending me here?
Correct me if I am wrong but Luke is more experienced than you?(At least that is why what I think). I think Luke “defends” in an attempt to explain your RVS vote on me when Hachel started questioning you in 19 and 23 when he could just have ignored it. Furthermore, both of you are individually scummy. You for your reaction to some pressure from Haschel and Luke for not being genuine enough through his first few posts.- HockeyFan
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I tend to go for partnery reads alot more since mafia partners tend to have associative tellsIn post 105, Azeru wrote:On the topic of HockeyFan, this is actually really interesting to me.
As far as I can tell, it seems like all of your scum leans have been partner reads so far. Is that coincidence or is it just your style to look more specifically for pairs then any individual player?- HockeyFan
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Strange Matter is the scummier one right now but STD is very close to being as scummy Strange rn(although as of right now, the read on STD can change a ton based on their next few posts, unlike the Strange SR from me rn)In post 106, Haschel Cedricson wrote:In post 89, HockeyFan wrote:
Ok so, I town read STD because of post#13. That post had the aura of being "I am town, I'm confident and I am going to win this game for town". My read switched on him because of posts #52 and #56 where he said "strangematter, i think haschel wants your attention" and "i just think haschel might know give a newbie a little slack when it comes to not answering". These 2 statements feel like very mafia partnery like to relieve some pressureIn post 84, Lukewarm wrote:HockeyFan, I am trying to follow your read progression on STD. Can you explain it more. You gave him a really early "confident town read," then backed it off of it with
Who is he protecting there? Strangematter? Do you even scum read Strangematter? I thought I was your strongest scum read, at least you are voting me, so then why would you be of particularly suspicious of his interaction with Strangematter and haschel?In post 74, HockeyFan wrote:Also, speaking about SVD:I did call him town earlier but after seeing post#52 and post#56 idk about that anymore, He was trying to soft defend his possible scum partner so SVD is back to null leaning scum. I also really liked this questioning by Zyla and I feel like scum dont try to push on someone who was already TR'D by 1-2 people.
Can you walk me through your thinking?
As of right now, Strangematter is a null read for me(maybe leaning scum), You are my strongest scum read, so does that mean i'm not allowed to see other pairs in partnership because fwiw the strangematter/STD pair seemed very likely. I was suspicious because I have 0 idea why STD Needs to intervene their. Like my SR'S rn are You -> STD -> StrangeMatter. Hope this helps. and btw, My read on u might change back to null soon based on theinteractions between strange and STD
I am gonna get off for now, so i will be answering questions tmr morning
Who is scummier, STD or StrangeMatter?- HockeyFan
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No, definitely notIn post 116, cyrus62 wrote:@hockey why the need to defend rvs normally gos till page 10 but you feel like your worried do you have something to hide.- HockeyFan
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Pretty much, It is, but the position of Luke will LIKELY not change due to him being individually scummierIn post 129, Haschel Cedricson wrote:So is your list interchangeable or not?- HockeyFan
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I am no idea what this means? If I find 3 scummy people in a game with 2 mafia, how does that make a difference. The list there is of POSSIBLE mafia. Ofc, from my pov, as of rn 2 of those 3 are mafia and there are certain pairs within these 3 which I have highlighted in 128In post 130, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: hockeyfan you real sem to be freaking out. 3 scums? its a 2 scum game for newbie.- HockeyFan
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Whats the point of putting me at E-1 so early?
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I admit the whole "you guys are partners" read was based on very few things, post#24 just seemed odd to me. I SR u 2 indiually and while going through liogs I saw this and I was like "Hey, possible partners?". That partner association is gone from my head BUT you 2 still are scummy and CAN be partners but not because of 24
As for 147, again maybe its different expereinces but most poeple I've played with dont want to see their mafia partner condemmed d1(including me)- HockeyFan
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Okay so your light TR on me and TR on zyla in 46 and Strange's TR's on 93 seem oddly similar?In post 148, Lukewarm wrote:
I feel like partners more often list eachother as a weak scum lean. So they don't look like partners, but they generally have 2~3 people listed as scummier so that they can have the scum lean on them without ever pushing on them.In post 147, Lukewarm wrote:
I feel like you are ignoring the fact that most partners are actually going to be trying to distance from one another, no step in to defend the other one on page 1 of the thread lolIn post 113, HockeyFan wrote:
I tend to go for partnery reads alot more since mafia partners tend to have associative tellsIn post 105, Azeru wrote:On the topic of HockeyFan, this is actually really interesting to me.
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Neither of them have shifted suspicions onto others yet tho? so idk just seems odd they have the same reads and likewise don't have much SR'S. Probably an agreesive+passive mafia teamIn post 157, Zyla wrote:
Inwardly, that's true, but a good scum player isn't going to show it. If they think that it's guaranteed that their partner is going to be eliminated they'll vote for them, if they don't they'll try and shift suspicion onto someone else.In post 153, HockeyFan wrote:
I admit the whole "you guys are partners" read was based on very few things, post#24 just seemed odd to me. I SR u 2 indiually and while going through liogs I saw this and I was like "Hey, possible partners?". That partner association is gone from my head BUT you 2 still are scummy and CAN be partners but not because of 24In post 145, Lukewarm wrote:snip
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In post 161, Lukewarm wrote:
Are you reading my posts? You are so focused on finding partners protecting eachother, that you missed that I am currently pushing StrangeIn post 159, HockeyFan wrote:
Neither of them have shifted suspicions onto others yet tho? so idk just seems odd they have the same reads and likewise don't have much SR'S. Probably an agreesive+passive mafia teamIn post 157, Zyla wrote:
Inwardly, that's true, but a good scum player isn't going to show it. If they think that it's guaranteed that their partner is going to be eliminated they'll vote for them, if they don't they'll try and shift suspicion onto someone else.In post 153, HockeyFan wrote:
I admit the whole "you guys are partners" read was based on very few things, post#24 just seemed odd to me. I SR u 2 indiually and while going through liogs I saw this and I was like "Hey, possible partners?". That partner association is gone from my head BUT you 2 still are scummy and CAN be partners but not because of 24In post 145, Lukewarm wrote:snip
As for 147, again maybe its different expereinces but most poeple I've played with dont want to see their mafia partner condemmed d1(including me)
In post 151, Lukewarm wrote:I voted for Strange because of them saying we should not focus on town reads. Which I do not like. Town reads are just as good as scum reads. In the very last game I played, on Day 2 I managed to get strong town reads on 3 other players, and that is enough to win the game, because we had enough eliminations that worst case scenario, we could eliminate everyone outside the town block before we lost. Town Blocks are powerful for town, and the scum can and should do everything they can to keep them from forming - hence my vote on Strange there.I am reading your posts. Just because you push someone early d1 does not mean you are not paired with them. Once again if you read "That partner association is gone from my head" from my earlier post, you would understand that I still think you 2 are individually scummy but you thinking pushing someone early d1 completely "disassociates" you from them is smth I do not understand?- HockeyFan
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Yea sorry about that, I did read some of it and didnt see you majorly push them, thats my L but it doesn't change any of my points aboveIn post 164, Lukewarm wrote:
I never said that me pushing them would stop me from being able to be their partner...In post 162, HockeyFan wrote:I am reading your posts. Just because you push someone early d1 does not mean you are not paired with them.
I am saying that when you said
I sure did read like you were completely ignoring my push on Strange.In post 159, HockeyFan wrote:Neither of them have shifted suspicions onto others yet tho?- HockeyFan
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Also this discussion about "claiming PRS or VT" and "forcing people to claim PR" is not beneifical to town. I do agree it in about some esne that people who are at E-1 should claim but this discussion shouldnt exist. Minor town points to Strange for 177- HockeyFan
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Do u think hes not being serious as town or is just deliberately wasting towns time as scum?In post 183, StrangeMatter wrote:At this point I think he’s not even being serious.- HockeyFan
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kinda like this from Strange more town points for them. Idk maybe Im completely wrong on this scum read which leads me to my next scum read of Zyla. I think Zyla is lazzily pushing me here as scum seeing that Cedricson, and a bit of Luke and crys were already pushing me. I think she was looking for an easy mislim by further pushing/burrying me while also having no other intent than to tunnel meIn post 187, StrangeMatter wrote:
Not sure, both are completely plausible but his grammar feels absolutely intentionally like that.In post 184, HockeyFan wrote:
Do u think hes not being serious as town or is just deliberately wasting towns time as scum?In post 183, StrangeMatter wrote:At this point I think he’s not even being serious.- HockeyFan
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Idk what u mean by "opinion". You asking for my reads or just my general opinion of the game?In post 198, StrangeMatter wrote:@HockeyFan what’s your opinion of the game so far?- HockeyFan
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Okay well its been a pretty fun game, everyone has been chill, and there have been some productive comments/reads which I have been able to make reads of. I didnt think cyrus's "reaction test" was needed and it was a waste of time, but I'm still leaning null on himIn post 200, StrangeMatter wrote:
Opinion of the game so far.In post 199, HockeyFan wrote:
Idk what u mean by "opinion". You asking for my reads or just my general opinion of the game?In post 198, StrangeMatter wrote:@HockeyFan what’s your opinion of the game so far?- HockeyFan
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No, I'm not trying to shade you, while u may have found some town from that reaction test, most of the posts were NAI. If this is your way of scumreading, then thats fine but It was not smth I do/was expecting.In post 202, cyrus62 wrote:
oh are you trying to shad . i think i found some town with that reaction test . makeing it easyer for me to shortIn post 201, HockeyFan wrote:
Okay well its been a pretty fun game, everyone has been chill, and there have been some productive comments/reads which I have been able to make reads of. I didnt think cyrus's "reaction test" was needed and it was a waste of time, but I'm still leaning null on himIn post 200, StrangeMatter wrote:
Opinion of the game so far.In post 199, HockeyFan wrote:
Idk what u mean by "opinion". You asking for my reads or just my general opinion of the game?In post 198, StrangeMatter wrote:@HockeyFan what’s your opinion of the game so far?- HockeyFan
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He didnt? I was getting the assumption by him pushing me by pressuring me about the fact that I SR him and Strange. and fwiw, A. I saidIn post 204, Zyla wrote:
Luke wasn't even thinking you were scummy though, where are you getting this narrative?In post 194, HockeyFan wrote:
kinda like this from Strange more town points for them. Idk maybe Im completely wrong on this scum read which leads me to my next scum read of Zyla. I think Zyla is lazzily pushing me here as scum seeing that Cedricson, and a bit of Luke and crys were already pushing me. I think she was looking for an easy mislim by further pushing/burrying me while also having no other intent than to tunnel meIn post 187, StrangeMatter wrote:
Not sure, both are completely plausible but his grammar feels absolutely intentionally like that.In post 184, HockeyFan wrote:
Do u think hes not being serious as town or is just deliberately wasting towns time as scum?In post 183, StrangeMatter wrote:At this point I think he’s not even being serious.a bit ofand thats not even the main content of my post
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Makes senseIn post 205, cyrus62 wrote:
i have to change the way i play. every game other wise people use meta.In post 203, HockeyFan wrote:
No, I'm not trying to shade you, while u may have found some town from that reaction test, most of the posts were NAI. If this is your way of scumreading, then thats fine but It was not smth I do/was expecting.In post 202, cyrus62 wrote:
oh are you trying to shad . i think i found some town with that reaction test . makeing it easyer for me to shortIn post 201, HockeyFan wrote:
Okay well its been a pretty fun game, everyone has been chill, and there have been some productive comments/reads which I have been able to make reads of. I didnt think cyrus's "reaction test" was needed and it was a waste of time, but I'm still leaning null on himIn post 200, StrangeMatter wrote:
Opinion of the game so far.In post 199, HockeyFan wrote:
Idk what u mean by "opinion". You asking for my reads or just my general opinion of the game?In post 198, StrangeMatter wrote:@HockeyFan what’s your opinion of the game so far?- HockeyFan
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I get what you mean by "look over the game with fresh eyes" but I think i have done that somewhat? I said the pair of Luke/Strange probs doesnt exist anymore and even gave town points to Strange and started SR'ing Zyra in the last few posts. Im not sure on my SR on STD anymore as they havent posted alot, but I think their scuminess has gone down a bit. To Re-Iterate, I do not think I am tunneling that bad and have made new reads as the game progressesIn post 210, Lukewarm wrote:
So far I have TR on you early, and then been engaging with you logic. I think that your logic has been.. not great, but I am not really sure if that is from you being scum or just because this is your first game on site. I have mainly been pushing back on it, because I was hoping you would see that the logic was faulty, and look over the game with fresh eyes. But I think that the more I have pushed on it, the more you have tunneled on it which... also not greatIn post 208, HockeyFan wrote:He didnt? I was getting the assumption by him pushing me by pressuring me about the fact that I SR him and Strange. and fwiw, A. I said a bit of and thats not even the main content of my post
My town lean on you is weaker at this point then it was early, but your early stuff really did ping me as town- HockeyFan
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Okay it may not beIn post 211, Zyla wrote:
I don't have any more response to this. My first post about you had enough information that saying it was only based on other people pushing you just seems insincere.In post 208, HockeyFan wrote:Okay Cyrus didnt post. Why does that change that your push was meh and based on other ppl pushing me?Spoiler: sniponly, but it was defintely based somewhat on other peoples reads?(may be wrong on this)- HockeyFan
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Okay if that is the case, then I rescind some of my SR on u but i think you still may be possible scum because your only read is that I am scumIn post 216, Zyla wrote:
Nope, just youIn post 214, HockeyFan wrote:
Okay it may not beIn post 211, Zyla wrote:
I don't have any more response to this. My first post about you had enough information that saying it was only based on other people pushing you just seems insincere.In post 208, HockeyFan wrote:Okay Cyrus didnt post. Why does that change that your push was meh and based on other ppl pushing me?Spoiler: sniponly, but it was defintely based somewhat on other peoples reads?(may be wrong on this)- HockeyFan
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Meh, probably a difference in playstyles. I like to make a lot of rapid-fire reads(that can change over time) to get reactions which possible give me more reads. Your playstyle is more laid back and you like to make concretet reads which is fine. Fwiw, I think playstyles are basically NAIIn post 219, Lukewarm wrote:
I think that you have higher expectations for read quantity then most people have at this point.In post 217, HockeyFan wrote:Okay if that is the case, then I rescind some of my SR on u but i think you still may be possible scum because your only read is that I am scum
We are still less then 24 hours into Day 1, which is 10 days long. I know that my reads are still forming, and we have plenty of time, so I don't see the point of rushing them.- HockeyFan
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I dont like this at all. Pav has made about 1-2 reads and his read on u was pretty genuine and came from a town perspective so what part of their reaction do u think is scum?In post 222, cyrus62 wrote:pav pins me as scum- HockeyFan
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What "easy" votes are they going for exactly? They have had 2 total votes. Their vote on Luke was a RVS vote and their vote currently on u is not at all an easy vote IMO and they did give some townie reasoning for their voteIn post 226, cyrus62 wrote:
they dont post much and it seems they are looking for easy votes trying to get a mis lynchIn post 223, HockeyFan wrote:
I dont like this at all. Pav has made about 1-2 reads and his read on u was pretty genuine and came from a town perspective so what part of their reaction do u think is scum?In post 222, cyrus62 wrote:pav pins me as scum- HockeyFan
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btw to answer Azeru's question I don't understand this logic. "You might be scum because you think I'm scum" in 237
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This seems pretty fuckin towny. town points from me, But quick question, how are u planning to be proactive and move on from cyrus. u have any reads to share with us?In post 256, Pavowski wrote:I nominate that we move on from this discussion with Cyrus about his antics here. His schtick is weird but we all get the point.
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Do you have any SR's or is it basically like "Hockey, Luke town" and everybody else is null right?In post 263, cyrus62 wrote:i am very disappointed in a few here which has me marking them as null- HockeyFan
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In post 270, cyrus62 wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80202 here i realy didnt want to do this but here is how i act as scum. you will see a more focus less wild side.
?? Idk why you're using this as a way to "defend yourself"/give Pav a way to read u since u said in posts 205 and 224, "I change my meta every game"- HockeyFan
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?? What hint? It seems you are trying to dodge questions by not giving complete answersIn post 275, cyrus62 wrote:
i can give a hint i am pro town.In post 274, Zyla wrote:In post 230, cyrus62 wrote:
cant answer that.In post 228, Lukewarm wrote:Do you normally change in ways that make you harder to sort in your current game?In post 254, cyrus62 wrote:
Can't fully answer this yetIn post 251, Zyla wrote:Considering that this is a newbie game and you are not a Jester, I see no way that that makes sense. How could being seen as scummy be good for you?
Ok so since this seems to be your main answer to questions, how about you just tell us what you can answer?In post 273, cyrus62 wrote:
i cant answer this right now.In post 271, HockeyFan wrote:?? Idk why you're using this as a way to "defend yourself"/give Pav a way to read u since u said in posts 205 and 224, "I change my meta every game"- HockeyFan
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iI'm not here to decipher random words and even if I do decipher these words it doesn't make u "pro-town". u have anything else to prove you're being pro town?In post 276, cyrus62 wrote:
the words when used right spell somethingIn post 97, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: azeruitch ant matter train once wrong next top raindrops at cooking kites everybody runs. i like playing scum i also like playing town . i dont like pineapples on my pizza. sorry kid was typing stuff at random didnt have the heart to remove it. also there's my rvs- HockeyFan
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I dont like this question much tbh. I think hes just baiting answers from certain town members SO him(less likely) or his maf partner can start not doing these thingsIn post 290, StrangeMatter wrote:What do you think Mafia will do in this current situation.- HockeyFan
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I like this proactiveness from Luke here. But eh I wouldnt go as far as to call it a "pocket" as of rnIn post 296, Lukewarm wrote:
Save the Dragons has only said positive things about me, starting with an early TR in post 51, might be a pocket attempt?In post 286, Save The Dragons wrote:this game has new pages
cyrus isn't the play today
i still like hockey for town, i like the way he is engaging the game, it just feels like it's coming from town. same with zyla. luke's push on strangematter seems legit.
i'm less convinced about haschel atm. i want to hear more from azeru. i don't quite like 268 i get that it's early and not based on much but it does seem a little forced. strangematter is null for me.
i think that's where i'm at- HockeyFan
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I think Im at a point in the game where I want to slightly re-eveulate my reads so here there are
Luke- He has played wayy townier imo over the past few posst and therefore he is weak town for me right now
Pav- has moved from weak town to null/weak scum for me as of now. They do indeed have reads but they're confident not in them at all and from my expericnes, usually town is more confident in their reads.
Cyrus- As many others have said, he is a big wild card rn, but ngl, hes leaning town to me
Azeru- Probs my biggest town read, I have really liked the tone of their reads
Zyla- I have re-evulated Zyla and after reading through their posts Scum casing me, they have had some pretty solid reasond AND have started scumcasing other ppl So I like that(probs null rn tbh)
Strange- Honestly my biggest question mark rn. My read on had changed quite alot but they are still leaning scum to me
STD- Another person who I think is my biggest scum lean rn- This read I cant explain much other than gut feeling
Cedricson- Havent posted in ~24 hours so dont have a read on them rn
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From mafia to town
STD -> Strange == Pav -> Cyrus -> Zyra -> Luke -> Azeru
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