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Not to be that person but I don't think that's allowed particularly. Also talking about a page 2 solve like that huh, that is one way to class your post right? I can't quite say hypocrisy is a scum tell buuuuuut. Rvs is rvs.In post 36, Val89 wrote:
Coming out strong, I see. Care to explain, or are you just going to throw it out there and hope somebody else does the work for you?In post 35, JamesTheNames wrote:JamesTheNames' page 2 prediction. It's T3 and Val89.
In any case, as you can see, I am a fan of getting right to the heart of it, and your page 2 solve is just sort of thing I like to see; so I make a public commitment right now - pinky swear, no takebacks. if you are right, I'll send you the hat pictured in my avatar. While I don't own the exact one pictured, I do own that exact style and colour. I'll even sign the lining, if you want!- JamesTheNames
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I'm a roleblocker, you're the rolecop and T3 is also a rolecop have you already forgotten?In post 12, Zyla wrote:Hello all!
Nice to see you again James and T3
Or is it? Are you on the mafia team this time around VOTE: James?- JamesTheNames
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Why're you so desperate to leave the RVS stage? We haven't even had all players post yet.In post 65, Val89 wrote:In post 42, Val89 wrote: Perhaps you could elaborate?
Should I take that as no?In post 64, JamesTheNames wrote:I'm still happy with my vote.
I am aware OMGUS is a thing, and I am trying to guard against it, but I am starting to get vibes I don't like here.
Secondly, hypocrisy. You made a claim or a suggestion about the scum team, the serious-ness of it is irrelevant. I did the same. Thus 36 I find hypocritical.
This was mentioned in 38. You ignored it or didn't see it. Either way.
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FWIW he also hasn't won a game with a D1 no-elim.In post 81, Zyla wrote:VOTE: VFP I don't like the fact that you seem to have chosen no-elims on D1 to be a hill you're willing to die on, nor the fact that you implied that you've won multiple games with a D1 no-elim when I can't find any examples- JamesTheNames
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I'm not posting a wall but this all refers to 72.
First of all addressing the hypocritical thing, we both did the same/or similar things, admittedly in different ways, saying a pair we could guess as a scum pair. Both were obviously not the most serious of things. You claimed somebody was essentially a strong scum read and voted someone else, which if taken seriously would mean you'd find them both hard scum, a scum pair, I said a page 2 prediction. You can argue over semantics whether that is serious or not or you can just take my word on it.
"and your page 2 solve is just sort of thing I like to see" in post 36.
Considering town should be scum hunting, this clearly means you find something scummy about what I did, yet you did the same thing, ergo, hypocritical. Or at least this is how I interpreted it and still do.
Next.
You said you were praising it, that is disingenuous as far as I'm concerned.
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First of all townreading someone who didn't vote anybody and rather wants to No-Elim. This doesn't go along with the idea you want to encourage people to make strong claims and to stick by them. You later said post 30 and 27 weren't serious. Does that mean other things may also not be serious? That's rhetorical.
Next.
"In fact, only one scenario makes sense - you are scum, and so hypersensitive to any sort of shade whatsoever that you read it where it isn't there"
Post 40 but also, do you not also see how far-fetched that is? Someone could misinterpret something or disagree with a statement you make ergo, they are bad at the game flailing scum. I'll keep this in mind. You also go into reading my one previous game, I was pressured there for a while, you can see how I responded there if you really want to.
Next.
You quote from my one previous game on the site where I replaced in, and this is important to say and clarify, after, the RVS stage ended. There is a large difference in how serious page 1 and 2 are compared to 7 and 8. Not to mention, I've played one game on this site, sure I was town and town won which is nice, but that doesn't mean I'm going to play the same way game 2.
Meta under bias, going in thinking that somebody is scum and going with a comb to find what could be deemed as scummy, isn't great. I personally don't think meta is a genuine reason to vote somebody ever but as I've said this is my second game.
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How well he took pressure? He just said his stuff wasn't serious? That get's town cred?In post 84, GrandpaMo wrote:
Okay this was also sort of a wifom post to see your reaction to how well you took pressure early game. You took it well, unless this how you play good as scum. But I will give you towncreds for now as this post was not expected (yes, I expected a manipulative scummy post for some reason lol) but you did well responding to my points.In post 63, Val89 wrote:
No, I wasn't.In post 49, GrandpaMo wrote:i don't know if you were serious at all
Absolutely correct. It was a straight-forward RVS vote dressed up in the style of a serious wall post. You correctly identify the most obvious punchline there, but I dropped a few other things that should have made it clear it was entirely non-serious. I don't really claim to have invented the acronym 'WIFOM', to take another example. Of course, if it transpires thatIn post 49, GrandpaMo wrote:and realized it was just a BS post to make it seem long, with no content providing and voting someone other than your scumread xDMiniMegaByteis scum, I reserve the right to imply I was in fact being serious and I knew from day one.
My post #27 was equally non-serious. Technically, reading you as null was serious, but the reasons equally BS. The clue there was the fact the that you HAD put your vote on one of the 3 - and Cook, MiniMegaByte and me are definitely 3, by the way - with the kicker being the reference toalstroemeria, whom was yet to be mentioned. I read you as null because I was reading everyone as null. There is nothing upto #27 I consider indicative either way.
Okay I guess we both misunderstood? LOL. I just thought my RVS didn't really count as a "joke" scumread or whatever you want to read it as and so I just assumed you would imply that the people I scumread (and not the person I voted!) was scum.
Indeed.In post 60, MiniMegabyte wrote:Who would've thought that at the beginning of the game people joke around
To be clear - I do nothing of the sort.In post 49, GrandpaMo wrote:you can see how it's bad and you should admit that.- JamesTheNames
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Still much better than yours regarding Val89.
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You're just flaking.In post 92, Val89 wrote:
I'm sorry. Are we speaking the same language? A plain reading of "Just the sort of thing I like to see" in no way implies I find anything scummy about said thing. As I said earlier, if there was anything about my tone that made you think I might have been attempting to be sarcastic or cloy about it, I cleared that up in #42.In post 85, JamesTheNames wrote:"and your page 2 solve is just sort of thing I like to see" in post 36.
Considering town should be scum hunting, this clearly means you find something scummy about what I did
It may well be rhetorical, but I'll answer it. Yes, #27 and #30 were my "RVS" stage posts. VFP and MultiMegabyte were null reads at that point, as were you. Everything else since then is deadly serious - I realised that your response in hero solving me + T3 was also likely non-serious; but your reaction to me asking you to flesh it out puts me firmly out of RVS and into serious scumhunt mode.In post 85, JamesTheNames wrote:You later said post 30 and 27 weren't serious. Does that mean other things may also not be serious? That's rhetorical.
I should seriously hope you don't. I'm counting on your vote being on me, having now established it is a serious vote, will serve to bring attention to our interactions here, and with it the scrutiny of the other players on the content of my actual argument in #72. I note others have obviously read it, but have yet to engage with it. I can only assume it is because they are waiting to see how it plays out before chiming in, but I don't want this forgotten - I want as much attention as possible on it - because I scumread you HARD right now, and you've only made yourself scummier to me with every post.In post 85, JamesTheNames wrote:I'm not moving my vote.- JamesTheNames
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I may have misunderstood flaking I'll go and find the word I mean more accurately. That's my bad.In post 94, Val89 wrote:
I'm sorry. You will have to explain that one. I looked it up on the wiki and it appears to you think I am planning on dropping out of the game?In post 93, JamesTheNames wrote: You're just flaking.
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I think it can be very productive. I don't think there are many more efficient ways of getting reads day 1. You have no power role reads, no night kills, no eliminations. You can't use hindsight to justify applying pressure onto somebody either. However tunnelling somebody, especially one who you don't have a town read on, be it null or scum instead, applies more pressure than splitting your attention between multiple people, goes further than split attention pressure would apply, and in general makes the game easier to solve.In post 100, alstroemerial wrote:
This really rubs me the wrong way. I don't see how tunnelling is productive? By nature, "tunnel vision" is regarded as a dangerous thing that closes one off to new possibilities. There could be times when tunneling is appropriate (i.e. more info), but at this point, it seems unproductive. Then, there's theIn post 66, JamesTheNames wrote:I like the idea of tunnelling day 1 I will warn you of this.threateningto tunnel. What are you trying to accomplish with this? The post as a whole reads like "back off or I'll tunnel you".
With all that said, I'll put my vote on VOTE: JamestheNames.
Last but not least, a newbie question. If this isn't something people feel comfortable answering during the game I get it, but... does anyone have any tips for taking notes? Right now I'm using a Word doc organized by player, with each player getting a bullet-point list labeled with post numbers, along with a general section for reads at the top, but I feel like it's going to get unwieldy as the number of pages in the game increase.
You have to dig for treasure, you have a shovel and it could only dig so much, what happens if you split the shovel between multiple holes, maybe you didn't dig deep enough to get the treasure, whereas if you dug as deep as you could on one hole, you'd know if the treasure was there or not. In this analogy shovel = time, treasure = solid read, multiple holes = people.
Also I should probably have clarified instead of making the post so short, it doesn't necessarily mean tunnelling for the entire remaining 8~ days, just for a period of the remaining 8~ days.- JamesTheNames
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Weren't you aware of GrandpaMo's once putting a horse's head in somebody's bed?In post 119, VFP wrote:No! Not Grampa! >:|- JamesTheNames
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Perhaps. I'm sorry if I did get the meaning wrong, feel free to correct me if so.In post 124, alstroemerial wrote:
Can you just confirm if I'm reading right that both of those "yous" are at me? I do agree that I look bad if James flips green, but can you explain a little more why I'm the only possible scum? Besides that you said my post with the most content so far was towny, I'm personally concerned at the number of people we just don't have a lot of information about at this point.In post 111, GrandpaMo wrote: Yea, that's why I said bad reaction because it was a weird omgus. I don't fully scumread you but you are like the only one who I see that could be possible scum. Also I agree with T3 and I do think your introduction is actually towny.
I think maybe we then just had different interpretations of "tunnelling." I was taking it to mean, roughly, "lock onto target with full confidence and push as hard as you can for as long as you can." With the treasure metaphor, I agree for the same reason that I think having a vote somewhere is more productive than not voting at all.In post 116, JamesTheNames wrote: I think it can be very productive. I don't think there are many more efficient ways of getting reads day 1. You have no power role reads, no night kills, no eliminations. You can't use hindsight to justify applying pressure onto somebody either. However tunnelling somebody, especially one who you don't have a town read on, be it null or scum instead, applies more pressure than splitting your attention between multiple people, goes further than split attention pressure would apply, and in general makes the game easier to solve.
You have to dig for treasure, you have a shovel and it could only dig so much, what happens if you split the shovel between multiple holes, maybe you didn't dig deep enough to get the treasure, whereas if you dug as deep as you could on one hole, you'd know if the treasure was there or not. In this analogy shovel = time, treasure = solid read, multiple holes = people.
Also I should probably have clarified instead of making the post so short, it doesn't necessarily mean tunnelling for the entire remaining 8~ days, just for a period of the remaining 8~ days.
Question forZylaregarding your Val read. Does your scum-lean on Grandpa make you think Val is more likely to be town, given all of the back and forth that they had? I ask partially because I have them as flipped. It doesn't read like scum v scum to me.
I thought tunnelling meant more along the lines of:
Focus one person with confidence and push until a bigger deal appears or until you can't push any more, be it a day or 3 days 1 hour 4 minutes and 1 second.- JamesTheNames
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Some people are too young for this reference.In post 129, GrandpaMo wrote:
what?In post 120, JamesTheNames wrote:
Weren't you aware of GrandpaMo's once putting a horse's head in somebody's bed?In post 119, VFP wrote:No! Not Grampa! >:|- JamesTheNames
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"no comment yet"In post 128, GrandpaMo wrote:
no im talking bout zyla here sorry nd yea u right. no comment yet. i would just like to redact that info rn, im looking at something rnIn post 124, alstroemerial wrote:
Can you just confirm if I'm reading right that both of those "yous" are at me? I do agree that I look bad if James flips green, but can you explain a little more why I'm the only possible scum? Besides that you said my post with the most content so far was towny, I'm personally concerned at the number of people we just don't have a lot of information about at this point.In post 111, GrandpaMo wrote: Yea, that's why I said bad reaction because it was a weird omgus. I don't fully scumread you but you are like the only one who I see that could be possible scum. Also I agree with T3 and I do think your introduction is actually towny.
I think maybe we then just had different interpretations of "tunnelling." I was taking it to mean, roughly, "lock onto target with full confidence and push as hard as you can for as long as you can." With the treasure metaphor, I agree for the same reason that I think having a vote somewhere is more productive than not voting at all.In post 116, JamesTheNames wrote: I think it can be very productive. I don't think there are many more efficient ways of getting reads day 1. You have no power role reads, no night kills, no eliminations. You can't use hindsight to justify applying pressure onto somebody either. However tunnelling somebody, especially one who you don't have a town read on, be it null or scum instead, applies more pressure than splitting your attention between multiple people, goes further than split attention pressure would apply, and in general makes the game easier to solve.
You have to dig for treasure, you have a shovel and it could only dig so much, what happens if you split the shovel between multiple holes, maybe you didn't dig deep enough to get the treasure, whereas if you dug as deep as you could on one hole, you'd know if the treasure was there or not. In this analogy shovel = time, treasure = solid read, multiple holes = people.
Also I should probably have clarified instead of making the post so short, it doesn't necessarily mean tunnelling for the entire remaining 8~ days, just for a period of the remaining 8~ days.
Question forZylaregarding your Val read. Does your scum-lean on Grandpa make you think Val is more likely to be town, given all of the back and forth that they had? I ask partially because I have them as flipped. It doesn't read like scum v scum to me.- JamesTheNames
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I'm going to apologise for not being able to mind read, there was no mention of any other posts here from you. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. Was it clear you were relating to anything other than just Post 63? No it was not.In post 84, GrandpaMo wrote:
Okay this was also sort of a wifom post to see your reaction to how well you took pressure early game. You took it well, unless this how you play good as scum. But I will give you towncreds for now as this post was not expected (yes, I expected a manipulative scummy post for some reason lol) but you did well responding to my points.In post 63, Val89 wrote:
No, I wasn't.In post 49, GrandpaMo wrote:i don't know if you were serious at all
Absolutely correct. It was a straight-forward RVS vote dressed up in the style of a serious wall post. You correctly identify the most obvious punchline there, but I dropped a few other things that should have made it clear it was entirely non-serious. I don't really claim to have invented the acronym 'WIFOM', to take another example. Of course, if it transpires thatIn post 49, GrandpaMo wrote:and realized it was just a BS post to make it seem long, with no content providing and voting someone other than your scumread xDMiniMegaByteis scum, I reserve the right to imply I was in fact being serious and I knew from day one.
My post #27 was equally non-serious. Technically, reading you as null was serious, but the reasons equally BS. The clue there was the fact the that you HAD put your vote on one of the 3 - and Cook, MiniMegaByte and me are definitely 3, by the way - with the kicker being the reference toalstroemeria, whom was yet to be mentioned. I read you as null because I was reading everyone as null. There is nothing upto #27 I consider indicative either way.
Okay I guess we both misunderstood? LOL. I just thought my RVS didn't really count as a "joke" scumread or whatever you want to read it as and so I just assumed you would imply that the people I scumread (and not the person I voted!) was scum.
Indeed.In post 60, MiniMegabyte wrote:Who would've thought that at the beginning of the game people joke around
To be clear - I do nothing of the sort.In post 49, GrandpaMo wrote:you can see how it's bad and you should admit that.
Let's pretend it was telling us to look into context and other posts between 49 and 83.
Post: 65 has no relation to 49
Post: 72 has no relation to 49
Post: 76 has no relation to 49
The only post relating was of course number 63.
His first quote isn't either of your 2 points and he responds by saying he wasn't serious.
His second quote was him confirming that it was a BS non-serious post.
Let's say the whole misunderstanding thing you claim is true, for the sake of your argument holding:
This means he gets town cred either for not having serious posts early, or for having agreed with you on some misunderstanding.
Get back to me on how either are valid before coming at me with the same thing over and over again which holds no value. Thank you.- JamesTheNames
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This isn't town sided.In post 138, JamesTheNames wrote: "no comment yet"
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The unnecessary tone in 88 and 99
I'm not stubborn enough.
UNVOTE: Val89
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Funny, I don't remember saying never or ever or anything like that. You going to bend words the entirety of this game?In post 143, GrandpaMo wrote:
Also something really funny to point out is that you said you would never move off ur vote off Val but you just did and contradicted yourself in post 85.In post 140, JamesTheNames wrote:
This isn't town sided.In post 138, JamesTheNames wrote: "no comment yet"
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I'm not stubborn enough.
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You're attempting to pocket Val89, with non-sensical justifications for town cred.In post 141, GrandpaMo wrote:
this is a really weird pivot xDIn post 140, JamesTheNames wrote:
This isn't town sided.In post 138, JamesTheNames wrote: "no comment yet"
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I'm not stubborn enough.
UNVOTE: Val89
VOTE: GrandpaMo
this should make me town LMAO
VFP townreading me, cook scumreading me, Zyla scumreading VFP + Grandpa then pivoting onto me then as soon Zyla pivots, you pivot LMAO.
I think scum lies between u and Zyla could be both.
dw i will anaylyze every maniupulative post that u have misunderstood (half i believe)
Not to mention there are different reasons for me and Zyla scumreading you. It's also weird you referred to yourself in the third person.
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Unfortunately, redactions aren't particularly something you can do in this game, so I implore you to explain. I'm assuming right now you have some form of scum proof against Zyla. If so, why wait?In post 142, GrandpaMo wrote:
Yes I am looking at a specific interaction happening. If I spoil the interaction and it happens to be scum -- Scum know how to coordinate now with each other against me hence why I redacted. This shouldn't be alignment indicative only usually towards EoD or even towards the end of the game where you are trying to garner more specific info.In post 138, JamesTheNames wrote:
"no comment yet"In post 128, GrandpaMo wrote:
no im talking bout zyla here sorry nd yea u right. no comment yet. i would just like to redact that info rn, im looking at something rnIn post 124, alstroemerial wrote:
Can you just confirm if I'm reading right that both of those "yous" are at me? I do agree that I look bad if James flips green, but can you explain a little more why I'm the only possible scum? Besides that you said my post with the most content so far was towny, I'm personally concerned at the number of people we just don't have a lot of information about at this point.In post 111, GrandpaMo wrote: Yea, that's why I said bad reaction because it was a weird omgus. I don't fully scumread you but you are like the only one who I see that could be possible scum. Also I agree with T3 and I do think your introduction is actually towny.
I think maybe we then just had different interpretations of "tunnelling." I was taking it to mean, roughly, "lock onto target with full confidence and push as hard as you can for as long as you can." With the treasure metaphor, I agree for the same reason that I think having a vote somewhere is more productive than not voting at all.In post 116, JamesTheNames wrote: I think it can be very productive. I don't think there are many more efficient ways of getting reads day 1. You have no power role reads, no night kills, no eliminations. You can't use hindsight to justify applying pressure onto somebody either. However tunnelling somebody, especially one who you don't have a town read on, be it null or scum instead, applies more pressure than splitting your attention between multiple people, goes further than split attention pressure would apply, and in general makes the game easier to solve.
You have to dig for treasure, you have a shovel and it could only dig so much, what happens if you split the shovel between multiple holes, maybe you didn't dig deep enough to get the treasure, whereas if you dug as deep as you could on one hole, you'd know if the treasure was there or not. In this analogy shovel = time, treasure = solid read, multiple holes = people.
Also I should probably have clarified instead of making the post so short, it doesn't necessarily mean tunnelling for the entire remaining 8~ days, just for a period of the remaining 8~ days.
Question forZylaregarding your Val read. Does your scum-lean on Grandpa make you think Val is more likely to be town, given all of the back and forth that they had? I ask partially because I have them as flipped. It doesn't read like scum v scum to me.
This is just something for you to fall back on when you have a bogus claim in the future. If you're not scum trying to place what you think is an easy elimination onto Zyla, then what is it you're hiding? As town you should have something right?
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Meta isn't a valid reason to read anybody any direction.In post 147, GrandpaMo wrote:In post 145, JamesTheNames wrote:
You're attempting to pocket Val89, with non-sensical justifications for town cred.In post 141, GrandpaMo wrote:
this is a really weird pivot xDIn post 140, JamesTheNames wrote:
This isn't town sided.In post 138, JamesTheNames wrote: "no comment yet"
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The unnecessary tone in 88 and 99
I'm not stubborn enough.
UNVOTE: Val89
VOTE: GrandpaMo
this should make me town LMAO
VFP townreading me, cook scumreading me, Zyla scumreading VFP + Grandpa then pivoting onto me then as soon Zyla pivots, you pivot LMAO.
I think scum lies between u and Zyla could be both.
dw i will anaylyze every maniupulative post that u have misunderstood (half i believe)
Not to mention there are different reasons for me and Zyla scumreading you. It's also weird you referred to yourself in the third person.
Also it doesn't make you town.
Pocket Val?? Wtf? You should see me trying to pocket VFP LOL. At the most that is who I would be pocketing if I were scum LOL. But Val someone who is in my null read? "It's also weird you referred to yourself in the third person.
Also it doesn't make you town." Again what is this? I literally do this shit in all my games LOL. Just read my meta at this point because it feels like you are trying to find every reason to scumread me for.- JamesTheNames
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What part of 85 do I say I will never move my vote?In post 148, GrandpaMo wrote:
This is literally in post 85 where you said "I'm not moving my vote."In post 144, JamesTheNames wrote:
Funny, I don't remember saying never or ever or anything like that. You going to bend words the entirety of this game?In post 143, GrandpaMo wrote:
Also something really funny to point out is that you said you would never move off ur vote off Val but you just did and contradicted yourself in post 85.In post 140, JamesTheNames wrote:
This isn't town sided.In post 138, JamesTheNames wrote: "no comment yet"
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The unnecessary tone in 88 and 99
I'm not stubborn enough.
UNVOTE: Val89
VOTE: GrandpaMo
???
Or is it the case (it very obviously is) that it means at that point in time?
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Hold up. Wait a minute. You're giving me scum points, For Sleeping? How desperate are you?In post 158, GrandpaMo wrote:Also, I very much dislike how James just left this conversation. This looks bad for you, James.- JamesTheNames
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I found a FireFox addon, so don't worry about that anymore I've sorted it but thank you.In post 161, Val89 wrote: By the way, if you really are colourblind James, and that wasn't a clumsy attempt at a fake breadcrumb, let me know which colour is easier to differentiate over green for my town leans.- JamesTheNames
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Being in the forefront is the most fun.In post 167, Zyla wrote:D) Most of the time, I would rather sit back and try to get some information from the interaction than tell you to knock it off. I may step in if I see some logical inconsistencies, or if it causes a wagon to be started, but it's good to get the information I can- JamesTheNames
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Different shovel.In post 198, Val89 wrote:
One hour later:In post 116, JamesTheNames wrote:You have to dig for treasure, you have a shovel and it could only dig so much, what happens if you split the shovel between multiple holes, maybe you didn't dig deep enough to get the treasure, whereas if you dug as deep as you could on one hole, you'd know if the treasure was there or not. In this analogy shovel = time, treasure = solid read, multiple holes = people.
I can only assume James decided if would be better if we didn't get that treasure after all.
Where does your "solid read" on me sit now, James?
I'm not stubborn enough.
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And boom just like that I'm now 100% convinced you're Scum.In post 322, GrandpaMo wrote:because u havent done jackshit in the game + u should know my meta lol
and should know im acting my town!grandpa
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There is no world, absolutely no world, where actual town would need to self meta that hard. You can't think of anything else apart from, insulting someone's playing, self meta, and insulting again? I don't know why you're on such a high horse but people are trying to enjoy this game there's no need to be unpleasant.- JamesTheNames
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Addressing questions as briefly and un-vaguely as possible:
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I thought GrandpaMo was being much scummier so I switched. My point still stands that you should focus one person at a time. If anybody wants to come and change my mind on that feel free, I'm still new after all.
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If I had to say at gun point, probably Val89 or TF3, considering the really unnatural pocketing you did, it also doesn't have to be for reasons of: "let me pocket you so we can hammer James". It could just be used for later on. Regarding you're 219, surely the opposite is true also? Just because they agree with you doesn't make them town, even more reason which you've provided yourself as to how nonsense your early town cred giving to Val89 was. That's the only interaction I've seen including you which could harbour a scum pair. I don't get why you'd actually pocket a scum team though, or assign town cred to a scum partner over something like that. For TF3, 288 makes 0 sense to me, there is no chance this game is exactly the same as the previous one you were in, you had your points and opinions then you discredited them really randomly. Ergo probably T3.
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Just because it worked doesn't mean it was valid. If you got to a hammer or lose and chose someone to vote because their name had an 8 in it and you think 8 is unlucky, and it just so happens to hit scum, doesn't mean going off of the number in their name is valid.
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Completely disingenuous, you know that's not why.
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I can't read Zyla's mind: 184 is different than mine, there's the formal comment for my not-so-formal comment just prior.
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Pocketing from 145 has been adressed.
Stop with the self meta.
The whole being inactive for a night has been dealt with.
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Adressed.
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Adressed.
Everything else as far as I can tell, is asking for me to respond, commenting on my lack of reponse, or it's answered in this or the earlier post.
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Feel free not to read 184. Zyla here links to a post where she explained why she scum read Grandpa. Which is earlier than 145.In post 345, Val89 wrote:
I don't understand the "formal comment" bit, but #184 is a long time AFTER #145, when you first say you and Zyla have different reasons.In post 342, JamesTheNames wrote:I can't read Zyla's mind: 184 is different than mine, there's the formal comment for my not-so-formal comment just prior.
Clear this up for me now, please: If these are the reasons you thought Zyla was scumreading Grandpa, tell meIn post 319, JamesTheNames wrote:Zyla seemed more like a vibe read or trying for a 1v1. At least that's what I felt about it when I read Zyla's posts.why. What did Zyla say or do that made you think thatbeforepost #145?- JamesTheNames
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What is the difference between this and Lurking?In post 373, Val89 wrote:
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What.In post 392, Val89 wrote:In before James comes along and drops the hammer on this...- JamesTheNames
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In post 442, GrandpaMo wrote:VOTE: Jame
can we just hurry up and get a lim already ?
im already frustrated enoughIn post 350, Nahdia wrote:- JamesTheNames
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Hi.In post 468, VFP wrote:
That's a fair way to see it.In post 465, GrandpaMo wrote:1. a james flip will tell the interactions between zyla. if james flips town ..... zyla is probably scum af
2. if james flips scum then, then me + alstro + val (possible bus from val tho) looks towny.
same with zyla and me.
I havent really interacted with James at all though, so a scum flip should put me in the PoE pool right?- JamesTheNames
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Why would I do this? If you're so obsessed with my "meta", I had issues with people not declaring intent.In post 392, Val89 wrote:In before James comes along and drops the hammer on this...
Regardless of that though GrandpaMo is scum so why would I hammer someone else?- JamesTheNames
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They have an issue with me being stingy during RVS voting for Val, me moving my vote onto GrandpaMo, me saying I have different reasons for voting than Zyla, and my "inactivity", I don't get the issue, I can't address things more than they are address-able.
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I've addressed this.
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Are we able to mega vote somebody?
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Thinking what?In post 486, GrandpaMo wrote:
im just thinking rnIn post 484, JamesTheNames wrote:Explain your unvote. I'm curious.- JamesTheNames
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I think it was intended as a back up because you were confident you could get me hammered.In post 488, GrandpaMo wrote:
u think t3 is possible more liable to be my scumpartner than val?In post 487, JamesTheNames wrote:
Thinking what?In post 486, GrandpaMo wrote:
im just thinking rnIn post 484, JamesTheNames wrote:Explain your unvote. I'm curious.
t3 the person who i scumread?
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Doesn't Mo scumread half of the game?In post 492, VFP wrote:
You scum read half the gameIn post 488, GrandpaMo wrote:t3 the person who i scumread?- JamesTheNames
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4 out of the 8 other people. So half.In post 496, GrandpaMo wrote:In post 492, VFP wrote:
You scum read half the gameIn post 488, GrandpaMo wrote:t3 the person who i scumread?
wrong i said scum between james + zylaIn post 494, JamesTheNames wrote:
Doesn't Mo scumread half of the game?In post 492, VFP wrote:
You scum read half the gameIn post 488, GrandpaMo wrote:t3 the person who i scumread?
and possible scumpartner t3, or cook- JamesTheNames
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It means exactly what it says, it isn't that complicated. Spam posting the same thing for hundreds of posts doesn't make you town. Self meta to the extent you do it is scummy. You have no actual case against me that I haven't brought up. You unvote with no explanation.In post 495, GrandpaMo wrote:
what does this mean? can you just answer my questions? wit yes or noIn post 491, JamesTheNames wrote:
I think it was intended as a back up because you were confident you could get me hammered.In post 488, GrandpaMo wrote:
u think t3 is possible more liable to be my scumpartner than val?In post 487, JamesTheNames wrote:
Thinking what?In post 486, GrandpaMo wrote:
im just thinking rnIn post 484, JamesTheNames wrote:Explain your unvote. I'm curious.
t3 the person who i scumread?
do you think i would bus as scum here?
You're scum. We go into Day 2 1 scum down.- JamesTheNames
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Post 491 reads:In post 512, GrandpaMo wrote:so back to my unvote thing..
james i really tried to give you the benefit of the doubt because in my mind, i thought there was a chance you could have been town just incase i was just blindly tunneling u that sometimes i do by mistake.
and so i was just thinking about vfp's townread on you and everyone else's interaction wit u.
and i wanted you to answer questions regarding your inconsistency with your reads.
just to see how you viewved me + t3 differently than me + val.
but honestly, u never do.
u just always deflect, ignore, or find "meaningless" answers such as post 491 like wtf answer is that and what does that even mean.
i tried looking at you from a town perspective but i just can't see it -- everything alligns with you being town.
i will vote you back now unless someone has a pretty good towncase on you then my vote will stay on you.
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pedit: this is exactly what i mean -- you still haven't answered shit. once again deflecting.
I think it was intended as a back up because you were confident you could get me hammered.
"I" in english refers to the first person, so JamesTheNames is saying this from their perspective.
"Think" comes from To Think meaning JamesTheNames had an idea in his head.
"It" refers to the idea of you bussing.
"Was" is the passed tense of be as you did it in the past.
"Intended" is a verb meaning you had justification behind an action
"as" is for a metaphor
"a" is a singular indirect pronoun for it
"back up" means a noun, similar to the idea of a Plan B
"because" meaning JamesTheNames was about to explain it.
"You" referring to you
"Were" referring to before you unvoted me?
"Confident" in your eyes you knew I was scum
"You"
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