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Ok, I was gonna just give notes on each set of 100 posts I have, but I've reached post 80, and filled up 1 page (I handwrite my notes lol) soooo here we go, after I'm caught up I'll answer questions, I'm not saying these will be my opinions at the end, it's just where I'm sitting as of the first 80 posts.
Also, I have no clue if Mini was voting so let me.... UNVOTE:
#19 - LMAOOOO I loved Dragon's "How serious is that vote?" I was cracking up for a good minute
#28 - Feels like a towny line from Flea the Magician
#36 - Dark Magician didn't like Dragon's #19?? Feels really weird to call that out so early.
#39 - yessiree outs early TR on Dark "For Good Postings" I feel like so far Dark has had weird posts, idk
#40 Dragons is just cracking me up this game, I'm already feeling town vibes from him
#44 "Well, it sounded like you were trying to initiate convo by phrasing it as an inquiry, and then left them hanging lol" from yessiree - This response to not liking #19 feels like yessiree is taking the line way too seriously/trying to get others behind an early push, it just simply doesn't feel like a town observation to me.
#47 Feels like a line only town would say from mozamis
#51 Why is yessiree also taking #19 so seriously?? I literally sat here cracking up at it
#53-#54 These make 0 sense to me
#60 Koba claims pr? unprompted by anything...
#62 I love VFP's reaction to Koba's "pr claim" and vote, VFP likely town
#63 "scum taking advantage" uhhh what? Koba, I don't see scum taking any advantage of VFP here??
#68 VFP, I'm kinda agreeing lol, like POE wise I have a handful of town leans already lol, too early to mark them off as hard town, but like, I'm definitely feeling good about a handful
#69 Good response from flow
#72 Dark Magician Girl asks VFP is #67 and #68 are jokes, yet automatically assumed Dragon's #19 was serious?? DMG feels weird to me idk
#78 I think Koba is the first one suggesting DMG is being scummy, I do like this line from Koba cause DMG hasn't done anything to strike me as towny yet.
#80 agreed
Umm so far~
Town Leans:
Dragons (#19, #40)
Flea (#28)
mozamis (#47)
VFP (#62)
Scum Leans:
Dark Magician (#36, #72)
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uhh lmao their entrance at #92 is questionable for calling them towny.... (maybe they get better later lmao, but I just saw this entrance)- Andante
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Mini slot is town, that's meIn post 860, DkKoba wrote:I refuse to settle on any slot that isn't STD Flow or Mini slot.- Andante
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In post 860, DkKoba wrote:I refuse to settle on any slot that isn't STD Flow or Mini slot.
Considering, I'm currently heavily townreading Dragons, and I know my slot is town, leaves just flow left for a possible scum, I feel like this is a really bad pool to suggest an elim in.. unless Dragons magically gets scummy, but Dragons has some really good lines I'm seeing,
such as #104, Dragons asks Luke about past maf experience, after Luke had just had a really scummy post (#94) I feel like town would go "ok, what's your past maf experience?" vs scum going "That line was bad!! Luke scum gg"- Andante
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In post 873, flow trap wrote:Hasn't NM done something?
NM entered with rainbow text in #92!!! lol that's all I got so far- Andante
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Where is dragons scummy? Please share, I see you ignored my line about #104 being very pro town
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no no!!! mini isn't scum!!! we're town!!! town slot!!In post 880, Save The Dragons wrote:
773 seems genuine i disagree about arte (dunno if there's enough to read) and mini (kinda leaning scum but want to give Andante a chance).In post 869, DkKoba wrote:which ones- Andante
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I saw!!! I was like, yeess!!! I also said I'd replace in, then saw the table and went "OMG I know half these people!!! These are the fun folks to play with!!"In post 882, GrandpaMo wrote:In post 835, Andante wrote:WOOOOO I LOVE THIS TABLE OF PLAYERS
Hi friends! I'm catching up, I'll give findings asap
HEY ANDANTE! You gamesolved Newbie 2059. Ahri + Hog was scum and pooky was def PR.
I trusted you and hopefully am willing to trust you this game too.
The plan is to solve this too!! (Although, not gonna lie, I had 0 case on Ahri lmao, I was like, no lines... byeeee"
I'm like 1/8 into reading this lmao I'm like reading from the start, and what's currently happening, I'm fully disagreeing with a dragons yeet right now, where I'm at, dragons feels very towny!!! But as long as no one is yeeted in the time I'm catching up, we good- Andante
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how the heck does you knowing who I am = me being scum here, Go read newbie 2057 from me, I'm entering the exact same way as this and I'm town. This is literally how I play when I sub in, I read as I'm catching up, and I take notes... then I'm a wild card- Andante
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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=86036
there's the game I was talking about Koba, another game where I subbed in... I know you know how I played on the other site, but then again, this site is completely different, I implore you to like actually consider the content of what I'm saying, unless you're scum and just gonna go "yeah I know Andante, she's scum" like, koba... I mean you decided to claim pr here for 0 reason..- Andante
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In post 896, Save The Dragons wrote:ignore them and keep reading
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In post 900, DkKoba wrote:
I know your play past that u know that right?In post 894, Andante wrote:
how the heck does you knowing who I am = me being scum here, Go read newbie 2057 from me, I'm entering the exact same way as this and I'm town. This is literally how I play when I sub in, I read as I'm catching up, and I take notes... then I'm a wild card
What? the play past from my openwolfing? treating games like a joke as scum? I'm not sure how that's supposed to intimidate me? So what I played forum maf on epicmafia? I've also played forum maf here with like half this table- Andante
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let me clarify a bit lol, *this seriously* I'm handwriting my reads lmaoooIn post 902, Andante wrote:last I checked Koba, I literally only take games seriously as town, sooo whatever- Andante
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In post 903, Save The Dragons wrote:
can you elaborateIn post 887, DkKoba wrote:i wont out them but remembering who they are and examining the slots play + how they are acting makes me conclude that they are scum here.
Please share Koba, I'm just not giving the exact name I used on EM, but yes, I've played many games with koba on that site, even games they hosted, so what am I doing that declares me as scum? I linked the game where I subbed in D2 and am playing exactly like this...- Andante
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In post 905, DkKoba wrote:there's a certain like psychological tell they have when they're scum and this is like it where they are reserved and such - ive played with them as scum and modded when they were scum
a certain tell I have when I'm scum??- Andante
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Koba, tell me scum me starts with thisIn post 851, Andante wrote:Ok, I was gonna just give notes on each set of 100 posts I have, but I've reached post 80, and filled up 1 page (I handwrite my notes lol) soooo here we go, after I'm caught up I'll answer questions, I'm not saying these will be my opinions at the end, it's just where I'm sitting as of the first 80 posts.
Also, I have no clue if Mini was voting so let me.... UNVOTE:
#19 - LMAOOOO I loved Dragon's "How serious is that vote?" I was cracking up for a good minute
#28 - Feels like a towny line from Flea the Magician
#36 - Dark Magician didn't like Dragon's #19?? Feels really weird to call that out so early.
#39 - yessiree outs early TR on Dark "For Good Postings" I feel like so far Dark has had weird posts, idk
#40 Dragons is just cracking me up this game, I'm already feeling town vibes from him
#44 "Well, it sounded like you were trying to initiate convo by phrasing it as an inquiry, and then left them hanging lol" from yessiree - This response to not liking #19 feels like yessiree is taking the line way too seriously/trying to get others behind an early push, it just simply doesn't feel like a town observation to me.
#47 Feels like a line only town would say from mozamis
#51 Why is yessiree also taking #19 so seriously?? I literally sat here cracking up at it
#53-#54 These make 0 sense to me
#60 Koba claims pr? unprompted by anything...
#62 I love VFP's reaction to Koba's "pr claim" and vote, VFP likely town
#63 "scum taking advantage" uhhh what? Koba, I don't see scum taking any advantage of VFP here??
#68 VFP, I'm kinda agreeing lol, like POE wise I have a handful of town leans already lol, too early to mark them off as hard town, but like, I'm definitely feeling good about a handful
#69 Good response from flow
#72 Dark Magician Girl asks VFP is #67 and #68 are jokes, yet automatically assumed Dragon's #19 was serious?? DMG feels weird to me idk
#78 I think Koba is the first one suggesting DMG is being scummy, I do like this line from Koba cause DMG hasn't done anything to strike me as towny yet.
#80 agreed
Umm so far~
Town Leans:
Dragons (#19, #40)
Flea (#28)
mozamis (#47)
VFP (#62)
Scum Leans:
Dark Magician (#36, #72)
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Alrighty, next section!!!
#87 @Flea, I think it's weird to declare you're not going to interact with someone this early in the game. Like, you have to have some interaction with someone to get a read on them?
#92 uhhhh what even is this entrance from Not_Mafia
#94 Lukewarm is feeling very serious..."But I also really don't like VFP immediately taking FlowTrap's word that they were confirmed town" uhhh I highly doubt VFP saw that and went "No chance Flow lies! I believe it!!"
EDIT FROM AFTER READING #138 - #94 was supposedly Luke in his RVS phase of the game, but how serious he was in that post, I'm not so sure he didn't have conviction behind not liking VFP...
#99 Flea Says Not_Mafia is at E-1 (Which, unless N_M is scum partners with Flea, I feel like it's something town would say)
#101 Feels like Koba was jokingly voting Luke, but like, Luke was legit scummy at that point, so trying to make it a joke honestly gives points to Luke and Koba being scum
#103 FINALLY a decent line from DMG, I agree with it
#104 I like this line from Dragons, I feel like town would ask the scummy slot about past maf experience to see if the scumminess is truly from being new or not
#105 Good line from Crayons - interrogating the scummy post feels like a very towny thing to do, like, instead of just going "bad post!" Crayons picked out the parts they specifically didn't like.
#108 I like this explanation from NDMath on what he found towny about #94
#115 Koba agrees with NDMath's statement about #94 being towny, but Koba voted Luke shortly after #94... If Koba had found it towny then, I feel like Koba wouldn't have voted it, yet only after someone goes "I found #94 towny" Koba goes, yeah, it was. Koba slot is feeling weird (and I keep thinking about my Koba interaction in the 900's... I'm trying so hard to not conf bias myself)
#116 LMAOOOO
#119 LMAOOOO - Yall have some amazing lines, I love yall
#123 LMAOOO I love the mod and how mod actually had to clarify this for yall
#138 - Better line from Luke, but going "I'm still in the RVS" like, just cause you're still there 100 posts into the game, doesn't mean you can't out legit thoughts on posts/stuff people say
#146 From Not_Mafia quoting #138 going "This is scumposting, plain and simple" I feel like you're just refusing to give Luke a chance, maybe if you quoted #94 and said that ok, but I feel like #138 was genuinely decent, not amazing, but decent, like, I'm willing to give Luke a chance to improve, but you, have no lines nothing, this would be your first actual content. And Luke sure is doing a lot better of a job at, at least trying to find scum than you @N_M
I'm not saying I tr this line from luke, but rather I feel like it just keeps Luke null, Makes me sr #94 a bit more.. but I'm still open to considering Luke as either alignment, where it feels like you're not, and you've written him off as scum and called it a day.
Umm so far~
Town Leans:
Dragons (#19, #40)
Flea (#28)
mozamis (#47)
VFP (#62)
NDMath (#108)
Scum Leans:
Dark Magician (#36, #72)
DkKoba (#115)
Lukewarm (#94) - #138 is not too scummy though
Not_Mafia (#146)
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lmao I see why Mini is a slot that yall weren't feeling good about, I'm like heavily skimming now, like reading all posts, but not commenting on all, I'm trying to just get caught up
#155 really good post from crayons, like, I agree
#165 LMAOOOO YES, calling VFP out for the Mini SR for not posting
#180 I need more from Luke, and I don't wanna see him getting a pass for "being new" but this could be a situation I agree with
#186 YES GO LUKE! lmao, I'm also unsure why everyone was so confused about the setup, it literally said... it's a good luke post
#190 Koba decides to claim a pr for a 2nd time??
#194 Luke... I do not tr self votes
#204 Mini SRed Luke, and I'm inclined to also keep Luke in the scum pile
#219 Luke seemed so serious, I think he said he hated the joking around? and now he's just joking?
#224 Goodpost from DMG
#260 LMAOOO smh @JV... I see why I'm currently trying to rescue this slot, I just ask yall to ignore any/all Mini posts... I'm not fully sure what approach they were going for, cause like, I have a huge TL pool as well
#290 There is no way Luke is town, feels like scum trying to play it off
#322 Still thinking mozam is town
#324 Luke feels mad he's getting voted yet he's literally self voting?? idk what he wants
#340 You'd literally have to be scum if you couldn't possibly see a reason people TR Crayons
Where we're at so far~
Town Leans:
Dragons (#19, #40, #104)
Flea (#28)
mozamis (#47, #322)
VFP (#62)
NDMath (#108, #165)
Green Crayons (#155)
Scum Leans:
Dark Magician (#36, #72, #340)
DkKoba (#115, #190)
Lukewarm (#94, #194,#290, #324)
Not_Mafia (#146)
ehhhh???
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oh shoot, I'm up to 515ish, I thought Mini SR was cause of some weird lines, I see JV losing it... it's ok!! He's gone, I'm here, we're not having another meltdown from this slot this game!!! Let the fun times roll!! Honestly, knowing JV is town, I feel like whatever got personal, and it was one of those moments where you're best off just stepping away as a few of you tried to push him to do...- Andante
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In post 516, MiniVirgo wrote:
I am mainly pissed off at Koba. I called them out one game as scum, nobody believed a word I said and then they won the game.In post 510, Green Crayons wrote:
disagreeIn post 508, VFP wrote:
Forced or not, its NAI.In post 507, Green Crayons wrote:or, like, more generally. the blow up feels forced but idk if this is just how jv exists.
i used a similar "get exasperated and super defensive" response to koba's suspicions as scum
if jv doesn't usually act this way, then what's the reason here?
The second game I was scum, in a coalition game. Got into the coalition and then get yeeted as a purposeful play to have my buddy, who was also in the coalition more cred.
And according to those games, I am scum in this one. Which is literally the most stupid use of meta I have ever seen in my life.
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I mean, last time no one believed me/ would listen to me, and it angered me, I just subbed out, and life was good lol- Andante
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feels like scum taking advantage of the fact Mini was E-3 or E-2In post 529, Lukewarm wrote:Their response to koba was
insane.
I have a scum lean on Mini at this point anyways, but even if they are not scum, I do not want to play a game with someone who is gonna talk to other players the way they just did.
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In post 921, VFP wrote:Hello Andante and T3, welcome!
575 are my reads and more or less the same as I don't re call anything happennig in the game for a while.
Both of you are on my town, so there's that at least.
Where we're at so far~
Town Leans:
Dragons (#19, #40, #104)
Flea (#28)
mozamis (#47, #322)
VFP (#62)
NDMath (#108, #165)
Green Crayons (#155)
Scum Leans:
Dark Magician (#36, #72, #340)
DkKoba (#115, #190)
Lukewarm (#94, #194,#290, #324)
Not_Mafia (#146)
ehhhh???
yessiree (#39, #44)
Well, up until the mini blow up these were my reads, I'm not really seeing anything I'd flip/change except, I'd TownLean flow, currently at #570, but quickly catching up- Andante
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In post 575, VFP wrote:I don't think the wagon was justified there and felt a little too easy with lack of resistance.
Flea's vote I disliked the most out of all of them.
I doubt there's 2 scum on the wagon though, but I'll be shocked if everyone is town there.
It does make me think that Green has more of a chance to flip red here though and Mini is just the counter or at least a distraction that scum are just letting fly by.
As of who I think is town
DGMis pretty town to me. There's a few posts I feel that are forced like 372 but I don't feel like it's scum mind set. I also think DMG is actually trying to progress reads though I'd like to see DMG question more towards who is scum.
Miniis focused on the game at me. It's not like it's a popular place to push and there are much easier / accpetable targets for Mini to go for here. I don't think scum Mini get concerned about me asking for a prod on them either. The back and fourther between them and Dk was just not useful on a scale of sorting. The above is what makes me think town too.
Flowis going to be the spot I flip flop on I feel like, but Flow I just read their posts as town. There's not too much else in it so mainly just gut.
NMmost likely town here. Mainly from the entrance but I doubt I'll get much more here.
NDis actually producing high amount on content to posts. 291 is only from a town mind.
Town lean
LukewarmI can imagine being the scum tickets pass. 331 has some reads I disagree with but is consistent. I think I'm warming up to this slot.
Dkis just going to tunnel here because of the disagreement. I'm not discrediting any skills they have here, I am saying that I don't think they fully believe to be 100% right here without the shit show argument. The problem I have with it is before that Dk was a realiable person to read in the sense I didn't feel there's a negative agenda for reads or comments. Now I think Dk is just going to ignore the game to that level until Mini is gone. The main problem is this stops me being able to make a read on them as if scum the tunnel is just going to be a smoke cloud. I think Dk shows as scum outside of that if scum, just from the way they play.
Artemianamakes it just into here. I liked the approach to the shit show trying to prevent it going on. I know regardless of alignment it's not something that should be promoted but as scum you want to see town rip into each other (And this is going by my TvT). I liked something early game but I can't remember what.
Null
MozNeeds to do something. I wish all the best in RL but still I expect something to be able to read on even if it's just an actual vote.
DragonsI almost want to put as lean town but I feel that they do reads to appease rather than what they believe. Personally I think Dragon has a lot to offer though if town and I want to go through more reads with them directly day 2.
Minor lean scum
yessireeseems empty with their posts. I don't see any actual attempt at scum hunting or want to progress. I don't see them going for easy targets either, but maybe staying under the radar or coasting.
Fleagives me a different feeling to how I have normally with Flea. It's hard to say as last game me and Flea were calling each other scum and we were TvT so it could be a case of both of us giving opportunity here. Regardless I won't lim Flea day 1 as Flea is by far active enough generally to slip up. There's not too much to go by other than I feel Flea has been a bit quiet as a whole in this game so far. I only put Flea in minor out of respect of not being a null! Flea is the second player I want to get views on more day 2 before progressing.
Lean scum
Greenis playing as a typical scum, pick a target and stick to it without adding anything else to the game. As it stands there seem to be a few names I can't see with Green and with my thoughts on the Mini wagon I can see this as a good lim.
I'd be more preferable at this stage to talk about particular reads and give a details description on a name rather than the game state.
I can tell you that this list is where I'm actually currently at regardless of any lists posted before.
If I'm right onGreen/Minithen we would be looking at
1 scum in
Save the Dragons, Dk, nm, Flea, Lukewarm
2 scum in
Yessiree, moz, Artemiana, ND, Mini, Green
With DGM and Flow locking as town for me.
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In post 935, Save The Dragons wrote:i think i need you to tell me you're town one more time
IM TOWN!!!- Andante
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ok, hold up, what did I do that made me scummy?- Andante
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It's cause I'm genuinely town!!!
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In post 942, Not_Mafia wrote:In post 931, Andante wrote:but for real, I tr mozam's few posts, Art... had some but I simmed right over them, N_M had 10 posts, I heavily SRed the one, and all are like garbage posts tbhIn post 932, Andante wrote:I'm able to answer any/all questions people have for me/the mini slot, I see it was a heavily scumread slot, but I'm here to assure you it's townIn post 934, Andante wrote:It doesn't appear T3 has/is making any effort to catch up? Today I wanna elim in N_M, T3, DMG,
I'll say let Koba live for now, I feel bad for all the JV v Koba crap :/ sorry koba :/In post 937, Andante wrote:Now do you trust me? cause I'm town!!!In post 940, Andante wrote:Are we serious right now... Not_Mafia, could you list 1 reason I'm scum here?
These are all scumpostsIn post 941, Andante wrote:he literally sits there waiting to get prodded, to instantly speak, like, this guy has to flip scum, if he doesn't... idk
I'm pretty sure they're town posts but whatever- Andante
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In post 953, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: unvote
Andante why do you think mozamis is town again i know you've posted it but i'd like to hear it again
I gave you specific posts and explained why... their tone was good, I genuinely like some lines they had, like timing of when they said a few things, I see it as towny, like it was towny reactions to stuff- Andante
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In post 960, Save The Dragons wrote:Andante, gun to head would you say yesiree is lean town or lean scum or would you stick with "ehh?"
like, probably scum over town, I legit have no idea how I'd classify them, their lines feel weird, but if I call them scum it's off early posts, they had nothing recent that I felt like was even relevant to the game, I have no idea what I think on that slot- Andante
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In post 959, Not_Mafia wrote:Better luck next time Andante
so what happens when I flip green?- Andante
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I liked the train of thought, like, sure it's not an amazing post, but it matches with the types of posts mozam does make, but I feel like this post is self explanitory... it's really not badIn post 322, mozamis wrote:OK, I remember being puzzled/had-no-fucking-clue what Flow was talking about with "pluralities" but post 35 states tht he means wagons. Pluralities = different wagons.
Light town read for Flow for kinda drawing attention to themselves by using different language from everyone else. Scum tend to want to blend in, not draw attention to themselves.
yeah, understoodIn post 38, flow trap wrote:No plural wagons
no problem there, my life is an empty abyss of..arse lolIn post 43, Lukewarm wrote:Yes. No one is allowed to have lives /s
when did they do this?In post 53, NDMath wrote:I have a townlean on Lukewarm since I think the initiative to look for the best mechanical play is a town thought.
This could be good catch from Flea.VFP, why are you leaving your vote on Flow when you think they are town?
Ok, more coffee needed!
So far light town reads on Flow and Flea, Light scum read on VFP? Wanna see VFP response.- Andante
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I mean, if yall still wanna yeet me after all this, I guess... so be it, like, I know I subbed into a doomed slot, and I'm genuinely trying my best to convey to yall it is town. And hey, even if I get yeeted, I won't be mad, I tried so damn well to catch up AND gather reads, all under the pressure of an elim being very likely. If you think I did all that work as scum, in a slot that looked pretty doomed... I really can't help yall- Andante
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you do know voting me 50 times only counts as 1 vote right?- Andante
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In post 971, VFP wrote:Andante is town.
I'd still hammer anyone at this point though.
Dragon is a good option. Moz too.
Andante is going to be active enough to catch out as scum if I'm wrong. Which I don't think I am.
I'm going out though but if I see an E1, even myself, it's a hammer!
See I don't want Dragon lmao
my top SRs are DMG, Luke/T3, and Not_Mafia
and umm Not_Mafia hasn't done anything this game...- Andante
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why not N_M?- Andante
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You think Mozam, who has almost no lines, is scum?In post 977, Save The Dragons wrote:because i think mozamis is your partner lol - Andante
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