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you forgot me smh. im voting you for not looking into the future
VOTE: VFP
btw hey t3 and pooky!! nice playing again with you all"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 21, Bingle wrote:Claim serial killer. If you leave me alive I promise to shoot Menalque. Show of hands, who doesn’t want that?
dw we kill mena d2"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 42, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
ITS UNFORTUNATE WE ARE NEVER ON THE SAME SIDE BINGSIn post 36, Bingle wrote:VOTE: pooky
This asshole won’t get out of my backpack and keeps making me carry him.
never seen this from pooky before:o"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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is it because of post 35? lmao"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 48, Bingle wrote:
Hey, look. I tried my hardest to defend your team in impeachment. You all just kept getting caught on tape. You can’t pin that on me.In post 42, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
ITS UNFORTUNATE WE ARE NEVER ON THE SAME SIDE BINGSIn post 36, Bingle wrote:VOTE: pooky
This asshole won’t get out of my backpack and keeps making me carry him.
this is day pt not scum pt . go talk to pooky there smh"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 33, Bingle wrote:Optimal play is for baby to target Allen and Allen to aim for scrum.
We all pseudoclaim a psych inno D2 and maybe later day phases on the basis of how kills pan out. psych claims immediately if has guilty (although letting pseudoclaims happen is reasonable for extra analysis fodder). Mafia likely use the roleblocker to kill n1 as they are most valuable. They also likely don’t target with their roleblock N1, as it is greater utility as the game proceeds.
No more mech discussion, including clarification about scum action optimization or WHY I would share such action optimization is appropriate on D1.In post 71, Bingle wrote:So I have a spicy tinfoil theory. I think that professor Drapion is not actually a drapion at all and is a robot attempting to pretend to be a drapion for the purposes of making achieving a professorship more impressive. I know, I know, this is all very farfetch’d, but I do have evidence.
Firstly, drapion has been established to evolve at level 40, which as everyone knows is a very rare occurrence in a game of mafia. Usually you have to have several weirdos running conflicting gambits to even get close to level 10 play. I find it very unlikely that someone with no completed games has managed to pull of a high enough level maneuver to evolve.
He COULD be a naturally occurring drapion, as drapion have been encountered in many places. This is exceedingly unlikely on the basis that there have been 0 wild drapion sightings in Central Park. Indeed, there aren’t even any confirmed drapion sightings in the greater New York area. Occams suggests that such a large Pokémon would have been spotted at least once during its migration.
Furthermore, when I began quoting music from Pokémon soundtracks, drapion remained ignorant of the context and didn’t respond to his supposed people’s music. I find this very suspicious.
Thirdly, when preparing to battle Mena, drapion mentioned that his claw was ready. Claw: singular, not plural. As everyone knows, drapion as a species has two claws, four spiked limbs and a scorpion like tail. This lack of biological familiarity with his supposed species is highly suspicious.
Finally, it is common knowledge that very few Pokémon have learned to speak proper English. Among those who have, a predilection towards using their own species name (such as the famous Team Rocket Meowth) is still common. drapion has shown a distinct lack of these behaviors. Clearly, the preponderance of evidence shows: Drapion must be a robot.In post 99, Bingle wrote:
Mena slightly scummy, pooky low priority, your slot has tells but I need to wait for the psych evaluation result to determine if they’re scummy or towny. Dann strongest townread. I’d be voting lukewarm if I weren’t voting gypyx, but I think the gypyx wagon is more likely to be spicy atm.In post 96, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Now Bingle, got any other early reads?
You?So through these analytical posts... I don't think mafia goes out in their way to actually give out on what town does. Mafia specifically in this setup where it is their job to figure out PRs does not give PRs help unless its direct manipulation to favor a specific result. However, seeing what Bingle has said, I doubt there is a world where Bingle actually does this as mafia. Looking back at their older games, they seem the same as their townplaystyle. Also their continued aggression and coherent reads are okay, there is some I disagree with however and I will explain later.
In post 103, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I liked the way Mena went about my slot when they voted me. It doesn’t seem to be “faked” per say. So I would slightly TR Mena there.In post 99, Bingle wrote:
Mena slightly scummy, pooky low priority, your slot has tells but I need to wait for the psych evaluation result to determine if they’re scummy or towny. Dann strongest townread. I’d be voting lukewarm if I weren’t voting gypyx, but I think the gypyx wagon is more likely to be spicy atm.In post 96, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Now Bingle, got any other early reads?
You?
I personally like the way VFP has handled the thread. Not much content but it felt genuine. More of a gut read then anything but I trust it at least for now.
T3’s entrance wasn’t entirely bad but it was definitely not a great entrance. I’ll probably watch this slot and it’s progression towards Pooky.
As for Pooky themselves, well. I’m not really sure where to put them. From the majority of what I seen, their agenda is just Sheeping Mena.
I think your first big post (the one with the Psyc Check thing) felt towny. I want to vote with you for now and see where it goes and see further progression towards your slot.
As for Gypyx, I don’t know.
His first post seemed like jealous of me taken his spotlight.
His other posts haven’t really done much.
I believe 3 were Filler and the other was a turn down towards your Psych Plan Bingle. (If I remember correctly.)Going back and giving these actual insight of reads (since they are being pushed). I agree with the Mena townread, mafia is less likely to push and interact with people. They were the first people to give a read and I actually gave a comment on that early on. Your read on Gypx feels artificial meaning that you tried to spew any information to make Gypyx look mafia alligned. If you are mafia, you could just be bussing, or making Gypyx (someone who would town) look scum as possible. But that conclusion is very debatable and not coherent until EoD or whatever stage in the game we are.
In post 79, Lukewarm wrote:
VOTE: ProfessorIn post 55, ProfessorDrapion wrote:In post 54, Menalque wrote:Oh if it’s hectic it’s not so bad
I thought prof was a newbie (prof do you have any pronoun preference?)Shadow Claw
I do, He/Pokemon
Claims he is a pokemon, but he can talk. The first pokemon I think of that can talk, is in fact,A CRIMINAL
Checkmate.This is a really weird entrance. I think something that should be noticed. They come into the game with a read already done being made on Prof. They vote them and probably make some random meme excuse as mafia. I will explain later with another read on why Lukewarm is my scumread here.
Looking at post 41, this is a very towny entrance from Mena and like I said why I townread Mena from early game. Mafia is more inclined to just stay back and let town push and interact members. However, they could be experienced enough to just do that as Mafia. But usually from the games I have played in, this is what I have been through and seen and it is usually right; early pushes (especially the first player) tend to be town. Also something to remark, is that if Drap is scum this is the only reference I see them scum in early game and that is in post 35. I replied to Mena hoping for an answer on this, but no answer sadly.
In post 84, Dannflor wrote:guys gypyx and bingle are scum togetherHonestly, this is a bad pairing for this reason. I doubt mafia busses day 1 in this setup. Bingle is hard pushing Gypyx and while everyone is pushing Drap, Bingle is staying on with a read that they think Gypyx is scum (look at post 99 where they they say a Gypx BW is more spicy implying wanting it more). This is a weird enterence too but at least its better than lukewarm's enterence. You are still null since you haven't done nothing that scummy right after.
In post 104, Bingle wrote:Hmmm. Too many scum reads, not enough time. Monkey get your ass in here, I have need of you.In post 129, Bingle wrote:
Let me give you a quick rundown on how Bingle do.In post 123, Lukewarm wrote:
Yeah. I am actually suspicious of Bingle making the suggestion for the psych to automatically out a guilty result. Because imo, that seems more likely to out the sitter then to out mafia.In post 120, Dannflor wrote:Lukewarm, do you have any non-pokemon related thoughts on any players yet?
I think that they know that too, because they were in the Open Setup review of the game that the mod linked to in the first post, and there they talked about the Psych having "a fake inno and a fake guilty on a questionable reliability investigative."
So from my PoV, Bingle came out with some anti-town advice, and then said for no one to question them
Bingle will argue the optimal strategy for town as he sees it, regardless of his alignment. Bingle is good at mechanics speak. Bingle is very good at mechanics speak. Bingle is widely regarded as among the best at mechanics on site. Bingle has said, specifically, that there are a bunch of things that are mechanically optimal, and that we should not discuss mechanics speak further for the rest of the day.
Either, Bingle is telling the truth that this is a protown maneuver or Bingle is crippling his ability to lean into mechanics speak, setting himself up to be questioned thoroughly on not D1 (historically the day when Bingle wants to be questioned in order to establish himself), and taking a harsh departure from what is a tried and true strategy Bingle has used as both town and scum for literally years to a pretty good result in a lobby that is at least half full of people who know Bingle pretty well.
Feel free to scumread me for it (I in fact enjoy scumreads, they are delicious) but we are done talking mech for D1.The amazing "Feel free to scumread me for it" is the most towniest IF AND ONLY IF it used after a analytical post has been made. I have also seen this in games and I do it to and they are town. This is because of your mind saying "hey, I am writing this for you as town and I want you to read it as me for town. Why scumread me when in my perception, what I am doing is town." Basically some psychology of perception and how you perceive vs the other party perceives it. You get more townpings for this. No need for mafia to write that much on optimal gameplay.
In post 134, Almost50 wrote:
I do have to comment on this though:In post 117, Lukewarm wrote:I am actually a little confused how the psychologist role helps us in this set up.
If he can get a "can kill" result on the baby sitter, but gets a "not able to kill" result on the cowardly mafia + any mafia that has already committed a kill, then on day 1 wouldn't a "can kill" result be a 50/50 chance at being the babysitter or mafia. And then starting on Day 2, they will basically be getting "is babysitter" and "is not babysitter" results, right?
That makes me question this advice given by BingleIn post 33, Bingle wrote:Optimal play is for baby to target Allen and Allen to aim for scrum.
We all pseudoclaim a psych inno D2 and maybe later day phases on the basis of how kills pan out.psych claims immediately if has guilty
@Luke:REGARDLESS OF HIS ALIGNMENT; you should always treat Bingle's mech talk as gospel. It is accurate and indeed best play for Town. End of discussion.
Note: The above is not limited to this game. It does apply here but is a general rule of the thumb.I actually hate this from Almost50. It almost seems like you are scumsiding to seem that you are agreeing with them as scum while Bingle is town. Maybe a pocket who knows...but what was the point of making it seem like we all should listen to you? Mafia and town will make up their own conclusions and now you are leaving Bingle with no reaction testing or any pressure of the person they were asking this to, for example, Lukewarm. I will explain later on why Lukewarm has been acting a certain way and the reaction actually to this post seems very very off.
In post 138, Bingle wrote:Town:
Dannflor
T3
PookyTheMagicalBear
Almost50
Needs more content before being arbitrarily shuffled into a pile:
GrandpaMo
ManWithNoName
Pine
Scum:
Lukewarm
VFP
Menalque
ProfessorDrapion
Gypyx
Yes. All nine of those are genuine reads with genuine reasoning. I'm not going to bother explaining most of them at the moment, and they're loosely ordered based on how accurate my gut says they might be.Okay. So the only real townread I agree with you here is T3.
I also think VFP and Mena are town.
VFP is playing way similary to the game I have played in and has so far not been focused on interactions with anyone else. I don't seem being mafia with someone. Mena, I already explained the towny posts. And T3 has just been also the same as VFP; playing similiary (and I know I am meta reading and sometimes it is a pain in the ass but their actual interactions same with VFP have been towny.) FWIW; the only time VFP is mafia is if they are mafia with T3 (and extra third mafia) which I doubt this is the case.
The more null reads is Pooky, Danna, Gypx, Darp.
Pooky is playing way different than what I have played with them before in Newbie 2059. And honestly it feels weird to me. Their constant non-argumentative status is bringing no information to town and thats why they are null... I need to hear more information on this. Danna I already have explained above.
And okay so Gypx and Darp; it seems everyone is pushing those two. Honestly I could them either or flipping scum and I actually think there could be scum in between. I already explained more on Darp and Gypx has played way more towny on Gypx but Darp could also be falling in the newbie trap. Third mafia could be in that pair assuming Pooky and Danna are town.
And scumreads consist of Lukewarm and Almost50.
And these reads; I have explained their scummy entrances and I will further exemplify Lukewarm's scumread on a later post that I have added but basically Bingle gives info against Lukewarm because Lukewarm pushed the narrative of why psych outting in which Almost50 made that post and I gave my reason on why they were scum above btw!! But after that post from Almost50, lukewarm instantly backs down. And it seems like mafia tried to push this narrative where they didn't want psych to out because they could set up a CC later hence why Almost50 tried to signal them to backdown; it would be more of wifom to say it in day chat.
I could be overreaching on this pairing but there is definitely scum between and both could be paired through my reasoning.
In post 148, Lukewarm wrote:
I have never played a game with Bingle, so I guess I will take your work for it for now. His advice doesn't really come into play until day 2 anyways, so we can talk about it then.In post 134, Almost50 wrote:
I do have to comment on this though:In post 117, Lukewarm wrote:I am actually a little confused how the psychologist role helps us in this set up.
If he can get a "can kill" result on the baby sitter, but gets a "not able to kill" result on the cowardly mafia + any mafia that has already committed a kill, then on day 1 wouldn't a "can kill" result be a 50/50 chance at being the babysitter or mafia. And then starting on Day 2, they will basically be getting "is babysitter" and "is not babysitter" results, right?
That makes me question this advice given by BingleIn post 33, Bingle wrote:Optimal play is for baby to target Allen and Allen to aim for scrum.
We all pseudoclaim a psych inno D2 and maybe later day phases on the basis of how kills pan out.psych claims immediately if has guilty
@Luke:REGARDLESS OF HIS ALIGNMENT; you should always treat Bingle's mech talk as gospel. It is accurate and indeed best play for Town. End of discussion.
Note: The above is not limited to this game. It does apply here but is a general rule of the thumb.This is the post that I was referencing on why Luke could be scum. Them backing down after pressure.
In post 151, Lukewarm wrote:VOTE: Professor
I know that he was my RVS vote, but now I actually have a scumlean on himAlso look at this... "RVS vote but now I actually scumread them" Sounds like a blantant way to BW on this vote. Tell me why do you scumread Drap, is it because everyone is? I don't see any reason for you to be voting them right now."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 158, Almost50 wrote:
I'll take your word for it. I never read wallposts myself.In post 157, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Good Post!
Okay. If you actually tend to read me in the future. Don't make any BS claims. All reads I have posted is in that under Bingle's reads if you want a TLDR.
Stop being a passive ass mafia."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 157, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Good Post!
What do you think of my reads? Don't just say good post. Explain why its good and give reasoning. Please and thank you."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 162, Almost50 wrote:My current solve is VPN, Gypyx, and that angry Gran'pa guy. (Who posts in red? SCUM DO. Butseriously; why am I scum to them? BECAUSE I SCUM READ BOTH THEIR BIDDIES. Simple).
No? I townread VPF and see scum between Gypx and Darp. Again if you are willing to make a read on me, then please read what I have said and not make assumptions. This is exactly why I said what I said earlier."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 167, ProfessorDrapion wrote:(A50 said he SR’s VPN not you, if that makes things more clear)
He put me as the solve. Probably just to see my reaction. My gamesolve is Lukewarm/A50/ >>> There is a world where A50 is paired with Pooky just because of openly defending. That means that would make Gypx and Darp both town which is a weird read honestly. I still need to get info."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 172, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Well in your case you’d say “You and Gypyx”.
Which would refer to me.
I always like to notice people in 3rd person just in case anything might happen and someone may take my words out of context etc. I hate when, I as a townsmember, gets pushed for something out of that sort."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 171, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I’m “Drap”In post 168, GrandpaMo wrote:In post 167, ProfessorDrapion wrote:(A50 said he SR’s VPN not you, if that makes things more clear)
He put me as the solve. Probably just to see my reaction. My gamesolve is Lukewarm/A50/ >>> There is a world where A50 is paired with Pooky just because of openly defending. That means that would make Gypx and Darp both town which is a weird read honestly. I still need to get info.. And you don’t need to express the post in 3rd Person since your responding directly to me. I’m Drap so just say me and Gypyx not Drap and Gypyx.Spoiler:
Sorry. Drap* Same thing. Mistakes happen."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 169, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:mena better carry me hard this game or hes scumbag
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In post 176, Almost50 wrote:@Grandpa: You SR me. That much I know is a bad read (let's assume you are a townie here). I don't know you from before so I have no other reference to evaluate the quality of your reads (like, are usually bad, or you usually have a 50% hit rate, or you tunnel, or you think in a different way than most do.. etc). Since this is the case; I can only ignore your reads (and the reasoning behind them) until further notice.
Let me give you an example: I know exactly why Pooky TRs my outburst. He was Scum with me before. He was Scum AGAINST Town me before. I was Scum against Town him before. We know what to expect from each other (well, aside from the usual 1-on-1 manipulation and what not).
I know to follow Bingle's mechanical advice regardless. I have appealed to him before -me being a townieknowingsuspecting he was Scum- to give me the optimal mechanical play becauseI knowhe wouldn't lie about this one bit.
Hell, in TM2021 I appealed to him (through his teammate playing in my game) to give a read on me, knowing (and explicitly saying) I may appear less townie than the first iteration to many, but to Bingle I am even townier in the second iteration. (First iteration got abandoned and we played the game all over again).
You are one of exactly 3 players in this game who have not met me before (the other two being Luke & Prof), so I don't hold it against you to theorize what you will about my play.
As for not reading post walls, that's nothing personal. Everyone knows I don't read mastina's posts (one example of a player who likes to do wall after wall). Even she doesn't hold it against me. I hate walls and tend to lose concentration while trying to read them.
Bottom line: You are free to SR me all you wnat, and you can make all cases/assumption your heart desires. Just do it with respect. Thank you (and I apologize for snapping at you, but I didn't like the tone of your post directed at me).
Sorry for the passive aggressive tone. I apologize. I don't mean to make it seem like I am pushing you out of spite. And ofc we can call each other read's bad because it is wrong in that perception. I look at the reasoning behind reads and see if they are well equipped with a town mindset. In my case, I thought what you did was scum and how you played along the interaction with Bingle and Pooky. I can go ahead and go meta read which I probably will so I can look at how you usually play and interact with others. I find it more with a town mindset to actually to give input on reads so you saying "I can only ignore your reads (and the reasoning) until further notice" is a little of scum mindset however you did say until further notice. I don't know explciitly what that means but I will give you the benefit of the doubt that later on maybe you will give input regardless of someone's reads on you etc. And yes I said that Bingle was town for giving the optimal play and I saw this as a good read. However, it just seemed weird especially with you and Lukewarm. Also there is references you could use and that could be meta anaylsis. Look at my previous games I have played town and etc. That is sort of bias which is eh, but to reiterate; it will give some insight onto how I could be town in your eyes.
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Yup. That is surface level logic and I implied it here... "just because of openly defending" Trust me, you would expect amazing plays from pooky but honestly from the town playstyle I have seen pooky play, it seems quite different. I was pointing out a world where Pooky is scum and that is because I had pooky in my null read because they and still can be debatable and I really need more insight towrads EoD because like in Newbie 2059 I do NOT want to shitpush you again @pooky.In post 178, Almost50 wrote:
This is what Flavor Leaf (another top player on this site) would call "surface level logic". Just because someone defends another doesn't necessarily link them in any way, shape or form.In post 168, GrandpaMo wrote:In post 167, ProfessorDrapion wrote:(A50 said he SR’s VPN not you, if that makes things more clear)
He put me as the solve. Probably just to see my reaction. My gamesolve is Lukewarm/A50/ >>> There is a world where A50 is paired with Pooky just because of openly defending. That means that would make Gypx and Darp both town which is a weird read honestly. I still need to get info.
And -on fact- it is contradictory to your theory about me defending TOWN Bingle (as per your own assumptions). So, tell this: How come Pooky is Scum with me for defending me, and Bingle is Town because I defended him? (Take a deep breath.. look at your own propositions.. then try to answer this TO YOURSELF)."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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Not once have I pointed out that you were defending Bingle. Please read my analysis and look at really why I townread Bingle. I never townread bingle because you were trying to "defend" or whatever you are saying here. I was scum leaning you because it makes it seem like you were tryna scumside with Bingle and pocket Bingle.In post 178, Almost50 wrote:
This is what Flavor Leaf (another top player on this site) would call "surface level logic". Just because someone defends another doesn't necessarily link them in any way, shape or form.In post 168, GrandpaMo wrote:In post 167, ProfessorDrapion wrote:(A50 said he SR’s VPN not you, if that makes things more clear)
He put me as the solve. Probably just to see my reaction. My gamesolve is Lukewarm/A50/ >>> There is a world where A50 is paired with Pooky just because of openly defending. That means that would make Gypx and Darp both town which is a weird read honestly. I still need to get info.
And -on fact- it is contradictory to your theory about me defending TOWN Bingle (as per your own assumptions). So, tell this: How come Pooky is Scum with me for defending me, and Bingle is Town because I defended him? (Take a deep breath.. look at your own propositions.. then try to answer this TO YOURSELF)."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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I just saw this. Lol, and sorry I get frustrated when people don't read and comprehend what I said especially in my wallposts because I spend so much time writing them.In post 161, Almost50 wrote:
Wow. Much of the Dark Side I sense in you. Calm down you should. And -most of all- BEHAVE or I'll MAKE YOU.In post 159, GrandpaMo wrote:In post 158, Almost50 wrote:
I'll take your word for it. I never read wallposts myself.In post 157, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Good Post!
Okay. If you actually tend to read me in the future. Don't make any BS claims. All reads I have posted is in that under Bingle's reads if you want a TLDR.
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In post 185, Bingle wrote:
Exactly wrong. Scum loves to hide in mechspeak.In post 156, GrandpaMo wrote:So through these analytical posts... I don't think mafia goes out in their way to actually give out on what town does. Mafia specifically in this setup where it is their job to figure out PRs does not give PRs help unless its direct manipulation to favor a specific result. However, seeing what Bingle has said, I doubt there is a world where Bingle actually does this as mafia. Looking back at their older games, they seem the same as their townplaystyle. Also their continued aggression and coherent reads are okay, there is some I disagree with however and I will explain later.
Eh this early? I doubt that. I still townread you. You wouldn't be risking that as scum.
No.In post 156, GrandpaMo wrote:Looking at post 41, this is a very towny entrance from Mena and like I said why I townread Mena from early game. Mafia is more inclined to just stay back and let town push and interact members. However, they could be experienced enough to just do that as Mafia. But usually from the games I have played in, this is what I have been through and seen and it is usually right; early pushes (especially the first player) tend to be town. Also something to remark, is that if Drap is scum this is the only reference I see them scum in early game and that is in post 35. I replied to Mena hoping for an answer on this, but no answer sadly.
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I... What? Dann's read is bad because I pushed Gypyx afterwards? What?In post 156, GrandpaMo wrote:Honestly, this is a bad pairing for this reason. I doubt mafia busses day 1 in this setup. Bingle is hard pushing Gypyx and while everyone is pushing Drap, Bingle is staying on with a read that they think Gypyx is scum (look at post 99 where they they say a Gypx BW is more spicy implying wanting it more). This is a weird entrance too but at least its better than lukewarm's enterence. You are still null since you haven't done nothing that scummy right after.
Yes. I don't know where you got that logic of "afterwards" but I stated just how you saw me pairing luke + monkey is a bad pairing. I am obliged to say Dann pairing you and Gypx is bad because of the fact that you were solely pushing Gypx and I doubt mafia would take that chance to bus day 1 when there was already a scum narrative being pushed against Drap. I thought I made that clear.
The next two bits of analysis are A50 and me saying functionally the same thing about me, and a townread on me + scumread on A50 for it.
There is a difference. You initiated it and you are the actual read for it. That is a fallacy because you are stating about you are self. A50 is not you and is another member of this game so of course there will be a different reasoning based on what you said. What logic are you trying to prove? I explained why and I am keen to believe it could be true.
I'm fascinated how g-pa knows he disagrees with all of my reads when I've given reasoning for very few of them, but the preflip pairing of Luke and Monkey is p gross.
You are trying to make it seem like I am scumreading you for having wrong reads. I just disagreed and gave my reads with MY reasoning which should tell you why I disagree...again what the fuck logic is this. We agreed on like 2 some reads.
148 is a fine post and being willing to back down isn't inherently scummy at all.
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In post 192, Lukewarm wrote:Grandpa, I am a bit confused by your logic on me tbh.
Post 79 Im not sure why you are taking it so seriously. I did not have a read whatso ever on ProfessorDrapion at the time, I think it was quite obviously my RVS vote. And I am just curious why you honed in on my RVS in particular. Gypyx rvs'ed professor for saying "first." VFP voted T3 with no reason.In post 156, GrandpaMo wrote: This is a really weird entrance. I think something that should be noticed. They come into the game with a read already done being made on Prof. They vote them and probably make some random meme excuse as mafia.Youvoted VFP for not being able to see the future. I voted Professor because he claimed to be a talking pokemon. I am curious, what made you take my RVS serious compared to all of these others?
That is because there were already reads being made on Drap. I do not know if you looked at those reads previously and realized there were votes being made. So it just seemed you were sheeping from my perspective and just would claim RVS (the second part of your quote) as an excuse to vote Drap.
And I cannot even follow this logic tbh.In post 156, GrandpaMo wrote:I will further exemplify Lukewarm's scumread on a later post that I have added but basically Bingle gives info against Lukewarm because Lukewarm pushed the narrative of why psych outting in which Almost50 made that post and I gave my reason on why they were scum above btw!! But after that post from Almost50, lukewarm instantly backs down. And it seems like mafia tried to push this narrative where they didn't want psych to out because they could set up a CC later hence why Almost50 tried to signal them to backdown; it would be more of wifom to say it in day chat.
You are saying that I saw advice coming from Bingle, that I think would out both the psych and the sitter to the thread, and then, as scum, I tried to make the case that that was bad for town instead of letting that plan play out to the benefit of the scum team? And then, A50, as my scum partner, told me to drop it in Day Chat, instead using the mafia chat?
So basically coming from a different community; I have seen this initiated through scum inhabitance. So basically what happens is 1st scum pressures town >>> Town then pressures 1st scum >>> 2nd scum hops on >>> 1st scum backs down.
That end bit could just be an overreach, I do agree and that is because of what I seen and initially they flipped scum. Honestly I actually like this post done on me and I am starting to get paranoid. However, that is what I have seen.
This chain of reasoning leaves me very confused.
Your analysis on the interaction between me and Almost50 completely ignores the fact that me and Bingle had a multiple post back and forth leading up to Almost 50 weighing in.
Again, this is where like I see it as you know you are interacting with town then scum joins in etc.
In post 117 I said that I did not like the advice given by bingle. In post 118 bingle said for me to not question him, which I found... odd. So in post 123 I said I was now suspicious of him because of that interaction.
Then why did you back down in post 148?? That was after Almost50 came and said what they said. You see now??? This is why I find you weird.
In post 129 Bingle came back and responded to my suspicions, and said that this kind of post was "a tried and true strategy Bingle has used as both town and scum for literally years to a pretty good result." Then A50 responded to the back and forth with post 134 confirming Bingle's claim that he always makes these kinds of posts, and that him doing so is NAI.
So I backed down from my stance. If he does it every game, town or mafia, then it is NAI, so why would I continue to push it?
Do you find it scummy for people to change their stances after being presented with new information?
No. I find it scummy that you are not inclined to push your scumread. You scumread them. So why would you believe someone else's claim another person? Have you done your research? Have you looked at their previosu games and saw that they do this? Probably not. So what are you willing to believe. With a town mindset, I would see you to keep pushing the person you had wanted to push and not be scared to push them. Do you understand what I am trying to get at?"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 221, Menalque wrote:I don’t remember you being this sheepy as town before?
That's exactly why I am null and really looking back at Newbie 2059. Pooky did this with skitter and was the reason I pushed them. That's why I am keen on pushing them lmao"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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It's not what you did. It is how you did it.In post 200, Lukewarm wrote:Basically, I scumleaned him. I was given more information that indicated that the reason I scumleaned him was NAI. I moved him back to a null read.
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im town too pooky. you seen me play>:(In post 198, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
im townbinning a50 and you so farIn post 194, Bingle wrote:@Pooks
I'll let you know if there's important bidness in the walls, dw.
Do you have motivation/reads yet?
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In post 129, Bingle wrote:
Let me give you a quick rundown on how Bingle do.In post 123, Lukewarm wrote:
Yeah. I am actually suspicious of Bingle making the suggestion for the psych to automatically out a guilty result. Because imo, that seems more likely to out the sitter then to out mafia.In post 120, Dannflor wrote:Lukewarm, do you have any non-pokemon related thoughts on any players yet?
I think that they know that too, because they were in the Open Setup review of the game that the mod linked to in the first post, and there they talked about the Psych having "a fake inno and a fake guilty on a questionable reliability investigative."
So from my PoV, Bingle came out with some anti-town advice, and then said for no one to question them
Bingle will argue the optimal strategy for town as he sees it, regardless of his alignment. Bingle is good at mechanics speak. Bingle is very good at mechanics speak. Bingle is widely regarded as among the best at mechanics on site. Bingle has said, specifically, that there are a bunch of things that are mechanically optimal, and that we should not discuss mechanics speak further for the rest of the day.
Either, Bingle is telling the truth that this is a protown maneuver or Bingle is crippling his ability to lean into mechanics speak, setting himself up to be questioned thoroughly on not D1 (historically the day when Bingle wants to be questioned in order to establish himself), and taking a harsh departure from what is a tried and true strategy Bingle has used as both town and scum for literally years to a pretty good result in a lobby that is at least half full of people who know Bingle pretty well.
Feel free to scumread me for it (I in fact enjoy scumreads, they are delicious) but we are done talking mech for D1.In post 134, Almost50 wrote:
I do have to comment on this though:In post 117, Lukewarm wrote:I am actually a little confused how the psychologist role helps us in this set up.
If he can get a "can kill" result on the baby sitter, but gets a "not able to kill" result on the cowardly mafia + any mafia that has already committed a kill, then on day 1 wouldn't a "can kill" result be a 50/50 chance at being the babysitter or mafia. And then starting on Day 2, they will basically be getting "is babysitter" and "is not babysitter" results, right?
That makes me question this advice given by BingleIn post 33, Bingle wrote:Optimal play is for baby to target Allen and Allen to aim for scrum.
We all pseudoclaim a psych inno D2 and maybe later day phases on the basis of how kills pan out.psych claims immediately if has guilty
@Luke:REGARDLESS OF HIS ALIGNMENT; you should always treat Bingle's mech talk as gospel. It is accurate and indeed best play for Town. End of discussion.
Note: The above is not limited to this game. It does apply here but is a general rule of the thumb.In post 148, Lukewarm wrote:
I have never played a game with Bingle, so I guess I will take your work for it for now. His advice doesn't really come into play until day 2 anyways, so we can talk about it then.In post 134, Almost50 wrote:
I do have to comment on this though:In post 117, Lukewarm wrote:I am actually a little confused how the psychologist role helps us in this set up.
If he can get a "can kill" result on the baby sitter, but gets a "not able to kill" result on the cowardly mafia + any mafia that has already committed a kill, then on day 1 wouldn't a "can kill" result be a 50/50 chance at being the babysitter or mafia. And then starting on Day 2, they will basically be getting "is babysitter" and "is not babysitter" results, right?
That makes me question this advice given by BingleIn post 33, Bingle wrote:Optimal play is for baby to target Allen and Allen to aim for scrum.
We all pseudoclaim a psych inno D2 and maybe later day phases on the basis of how kills pan out.psych claims immediately if has guilty
@Luke:REGARDLESS OF HIS ALIGNMENT; you should always treat Bingle's mech talk as gospel. It is accurate and indeed best play for Town. End of discussion.
Note: The above is not limited to this game. It does apply here but is a general rule of the thumb.
Why are you lying? You keep saying "Almost50 had almost no influence on me dropping my scumread on Bingle" but you literally reply to that quote and agree with them, what am I suppose to think? (in post 148) That they didn't have influence on you? Of course I will make that claim. Just look at how you acknowledged it; it clearly seemed you were influenced by A50 here.In post 199, Lukewarm wrote:
Yeah, it feels like you are not actually reading my posts, and are instead trying to make it fit to this idea you already have in your head. Almost50 had almost no influence on me dropping my scumread on Bingle.
This is why I dropped it:
Bingle claimed that he has done the same thing in every game he has played for years. I cannot imagine that this is a lie, because it is something that could easily be disproven by anyone willing to look back over his game history or by anyone who has played games with him in the past. I decided to move bingle back to a null read at this point, because I believed him here that it was NAI.In post 129, Bingle wrote:what is a tried and true strategy Bingle has used as both town and scum for literally years to a pretty good result in a lobby that is at least half full of people who know Bingle pretty well.
Almost50 chiming in was just an extra little nudge that re-accessing the situation as NAI was the right move.
I quoted the other two quotes to see the chronological order of which these events followed. Bingle said somehting, A50 did too and you come out and reply to A50 acknowledging what Bingle said; idk it seems an influence to me.
Also what does the quote thing have to do with anything? Are you tyring to find petty reasons to seem like "oh scum would do this" you could literally just reply to me and quote under a different color. I needed to reply to everything you had so I can justify my reads and my reasoning. We may disagree or agree, oh well, as long as you understand what I am trying to say and I feel like you aren't right now."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 236, T3 wrote:I honestly can't shake my soul scumread on pooky.... I don't know what's different but he somehow feels off...
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Well I only have played like 1 full game and 1 replacement game so I am going based of what I know. Everyone so far who have tried to put themselves in a town mindset and tried to contribute with bringing up optimal gameplay in question turns out to be town. You pushing me for this is giving me more reason to townread you lol. I was just saying that your early game is one of the reason I townread you. Same with Mena; I have seen town only pressure voting and especially being the first read of the game seems pretty towny and it's not even just that, it is the fact that we both thought of the same thing of post 35 of what Drap said(I am not to sure tho because Mena never answered my question). I think my townreads are good and I think my reasoning is good. You can disagree with them and that's fine, I will be making conclusions based on how you react, interact, and base of other reads. You also make a great point "townies aren't afriad to be wrong, they put out content because they believe in it" which Mena did and you did as well and I as well really on Luke and A50. <<< That read is probably going to change though.In post 251, Bingle wrote:
As the bingle in question, I can assure you that my mechspeak is literally the worst reason you could possibly have for town reading me, and your reason for townreading mena is similarly bad.In post 195, GrandpaMo wrote:Snip
Dann expressed a partner read on Gyp and I in 84. I expressed a serious vote on gypyx in 91. 91 > 84. Therefore, saying that Dann's partner read in 85 is bad because I was voting Gypyx is... Bad.
A50 talking about my mechspeak being NAI is NAI because A50 has the required knowledge about me to know that my mechspeak is NAI which I mentioned in the post where I said that my mechspeak was NAI. NAI.
I'm not saying you're scumreading me for having wrong reads. I'm saying you think my reads are wrong without knowing why I have them, which is pretty TMI.
Townies aren't afraid to be wrong, they put out content because they believe in it.
Wether your mechspeak is NAI or what... I just find that you have gave viable info for town in this game. I am not referencing your previous games and etc. I am only focusing on this game. Now I can do a full analysis on previous games if you really want me to and I can post on how I feel on it but that's up to you."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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I just saw this ngl. You literally contradicted what you said in the highlighted bold. You said in the earlier post that Almost50 had absoletly NO influence on your confirmation. And guess what you claim literally that it further confirmed it should be NAI. Do you see how why I suspect you could just be spewing lies out of your ass? I was never looking at Bingle's statement being a lie... like I said it's not what happened it is how you interacted with Bingle that was more sus. You keep going by the fact of the content being made. I thought the content was fine; I am not really assessing that. A scum mindset would have the same right now; you are going based of what you said and what bingle said and not looking at the bigger pciture. So literally everything after the bolded is irrelavent info. And I really see that as a way for you as scum to just cover your tracks. Honestly, you saying you don't want to interact with me is also anti town. I think my vote is gonna stay this for now.In post 249, Lukewarm wrote:
Okay, I am done interacting with you over this one comment tbh.In post 243, GrandpaMo wrote:Why are you lying?
I'll say it lay it out one last time before I start hard ignoring this topic: Bingle's claim that he has done it in every game game for years was enough for me to decide that it was NAI. Before I got caught up on the thread,I also read Almost50's post, which further confirmed it should be NAI.
Bingle made a statement, and that statement would be a dumb lie to tell. I mean if it was a lie, it could have be easily disproven by anyone willing to read his backlog (or by any of the people who have obviously played with him before) and therefore I decided to believe it.
Why should I not have believed his claim that he does that every game? If you are trying to say that it is indicative of me being scum, then you need to explain why town!Luke would not have reacted the exact same way.
Believe me or don't believe me, but I don't know what else there is to say on the matter.
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I just saw this ngl. You literally contradicted what you said in the highlighted bold. You said in the earlier post that Almost50 had absoletly NO influence on your confirmation. And guess what you claim literally that it further confirmed it should be NAI. Do you see how why I suspect you could just be spewing lies out of your ass? I was never looking at Bingle's statement being a lie... like I said it's not what happened it is how you interacted with Bingle that was more sus. You keep going by the fact of the content being made. I thought the content was fine; I am not really assessing that. A scum mindset would have the same right now; you are going based of what you said and what bingle said and not looking at the bigger pciture. So literally everything after the bolded is irrelavent info. And I really see that as a way for you as scum to just cover your tracks. Honestly, you saying you don't want to interact with me is also anti town. I think my vote is gonna stay this for now.In post 249, Lukewarm wrote:
Okay, I am done interacting with you over this one comment tbh.In post 243, GrandpaMo wrote:Why are you lying?
I'll say it lay it out one last time before I start hard ignoring this topic: Bingle's claim that he has done it in every game game for years was enough for me to decide that it was NAI. Before I got caught up on the thread,I also read Almost50's post, which further confirmed it should be NAI.
Bingle made a statement, and that statement would be a dumb lie to tell. I mean if it was a lie, it could have be easily disproven by anyone willing to read his backlog (or by any of the people who have obviously played with him before) and therefore I decided to believe it.
Why should I not have believed his claim that he does that every game? If you are trying to say that it is indicative of me being scum, then you need to explain why town!Luke would not have reacted the exact same way.
Believe me or don't believe me, but I don't know what else there is to say on the matter.
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As in most scum?In post 271, Lukewarm wrote:
Not really. If I were ordering them, it would probably have Grandpa at the top actuallyIn post 267, Menalque wrote:
Are these ordered btw?In post 259, Lukewarm wrote:Gypyx
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Please tell me, I am not the only one who saw lukewarm blantly contradict themselves."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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Look at the bold. Do you see now? What is your definition of influence?In post 280, Lukewarm wrote:In post 199, Lukewarm wrote:Almost50 had almost no influence on me dropping my scumread on Bingle.
This is why I dropped it:
Bingle claimed that he has done the same thing in every game he has played for years. I cannot imagine that this is a lie, because it is something that could easily be disproven by anyone willing to look back over his game history or by anyone who has played games with him in the past.I decided to move bingle back to a null read at this point, because I believed him here that it was NAI.
Almost50 chiming in was just an extra little nudge that re-accessing the situation as NAI was the right move.
If you think that these two statements are contradictory, and not literally saying the exact same thing, then communication between the two of us has fully broken down.In post 249, Lukewarm wrote:I'll say it lay it out one last time before I start hard ignoring this topic: Bingle's claim that he has done it in every game game for years was enough for me to decide that it was NAI. Before I got caught up on the thread,I also read Almost50's post, which further confirmed it should be NAI."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 280, Lukewarm wrote:[quote="In post 199, Lukewarm"]Almost50 had almost no influence on me dropping my scumread on Bingle.
This is why I dropped it:
Bingle claimed that he has done the same thing in every game he has played for years. I cannot imagine that this is a lie, because it is something that could easily be disproven by anyone willing to look back over his game history or by anyone who has played games with him in the past. I decided to move bingle back to a null read at this point, because I believed him here that it was NAI.
Almost50 chiming in was just an extra little nudge that re-accessing the situation as NAI was the right move.
If you think that these two statements are contradictory, and not literally saying the exact same thing, then communication between the two of us has fully broken down.[/quote]In post 249, Lukewarm wrote:I'll say it lay it out one last time before I start hard ignoring this topic: Bingle's claim that he has done it in every game game for years was enough for me to decide that it was NAI.Before I got caught up on the thread, I also read Almost50's post, which further confirmed it should be NAI.
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In post 280, Lukewarm wrote:[quote="In post 199, Lukewarm"]Almost50 had almost no influence on me dropping my scumread on Bingle.
This is why I dropped it:
Bingle claimed that he has done the same thing in every game he has played for years. I cannot imagine that this is a lie, because it is something that could easily be disproven by anyone willing to look back over his game history or by anyone who has played games with him in the past. I decided to move bingle back to a null read at this point, because I believed him here that it was NAI.
Almost50 chiming in was just an extra little nudge that re-accessing the situation as NAI was the right move.
If you think that these two statements are contradictory, and not literally saying the exact same thing, then communication between the two of us has fully broken down.[/quote]In post 249, Lukewarm wrote:I'll say it lay it out one last time before I start hard ignoring this topic: Bingle's claim that he has done it in every game game for years was enough for me to decide that it was NAI.Before I got caught up on the thread, I also read Almost50's post, which further confirmed it should be NAI.
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In post 280, Lukewarm wrote:In post 199, Lukewarm wrote:Almost50 had almost no influence on me dropping my scumread on Bingle.
This is why I dropped it:
Bingle claimed that he has done the same thing in every game he has played for years. I cannot imagine that this is a lie, because it is something that could easily be disproven by anyone willing to look back over his game history or by anyone who has played games with him in the past. I decided to move bingle back to a null read at this point, because I believed him here that it was NAI.
Almost50 chiming in was just an extra little nudge that re-accessing the situation as NAI was the right move.
If you think that these two statements are contradictory, and not literally saying the exact same thing, then communication between the two of us has fully broken down.In post 249, Lukewarm wrote:I'll say it lay it out one last time before I start hard ignoring this topic: Bingle's claim that he has done it in every game game for years was enough for me to decide that it was NAI.Before I got caught up on the thread, I also read Almost50's post, which further confirmed it should be NAI.
Okay what the fuck am I doing hold on. This should be good now. Sorry again."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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That's a fair assessment. I am just like... I don't know you saying that first part throws me off. This happened between me and JacksonVirgo in Newbie 2059 and it turned it was town on town. I usually tend to do this a lot. We could be just be misunderstanding each other. But yes, I will look at other people and other sitatuions to see how you develop. I am also waiting on a game to end so I can also see if your slot was scummy ( I think you should know what game I am referencing) but we can't talk about on going games so no further discussion on that please. Anyways, I just may have a tad bias toward this tunnel on you and I will back off for now. What do you think of others by the way? Like pooky?In post 287, Lukewarm wrote:
Like, compare the blue to the blue, and the green to the green, and they are saying literally the same thing??????In post 280, Lukewarm wrote:In post 199, Lukewarm wrote:Almost50 had almost no influence on me dropping my scumread on Bingle.
This is why I dropped it:
Bingle claimed that he has done the same thing in every game he has played for years. I cannot imagine that this is a lie, because it is something that could easily be disproven by anyone willing to look back over his game history or by anyone who has played games with him in the past.I decided to move bingle back to a null read at this point, because I believed him here that it was NAI.
Almost50 chiming in was just an extra little nudge that re-accessing the situation as NAI was the right move.
If you think that these two statements are contradictory, and not literally saying the exact same thing, then communication between the two of us has fully broken down.In post 249, Lukewarm wrote:I'll say it lay it out one last time before I start hard ignoring this topic:Bingle's claim that he has done it in every game game for years was enough for me to decide that it was NAI.Before I got caught up on the thread,I also read Almost50's post, which further confirmed it should be NAI.
I read Bingles post, and that was enough for me to realize it was NAIand after thatI read Almost50's post which made me feel better about my decision
That is what happened. "Almost50 had almost no influence on me dropping my scumread on Bingle." Because I decided to drop my scumread on Bingle before I ever read Almost50's post. But then, when I did read it, it made me feel better about the decision I had already made. That is exactly how my thought process on Bingle evolved as I read the thread, and I feel like I have been saying the exact same thing over and over again.
Grandpa, this is the strangest game of semantics got 'cha I have ever been a part of. You are tunneling pretty hard on this. All I can say is that it seems like you are wildly misunderstanding me, and then digging your heels in over it. Please take a step back, and try reading through the situation again. If you still end up with a scumread on me over it, then more power to you."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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hey dann was this ever a real read? Also you are hypocritical to that fact for calling out mena for giving no content while you gave no content as well.In post 84, Dannflor wrote:guys gypyx and bingle are scum together"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 298, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I like this post.In post 294, Dannflor wrote:I have no idea why Bingle is town reading me, he shouldn't be but he probably has reasons for it
I'm not going to argue anything I've done so far is indicative of radiant town!dann blah blah blah
I'm just like, so thrown by the fact that Menalque thinks I should be radiating town within my first five posts.
Menalque, you've made 47 posts and I can pull threads of alignment out of maybe three of them.
Questioning TR.
Explain how stuff is NAI.
This is a good reaction towards Mena and I sorta agree with what he’s saying.
He seems quite genuine here regardless of alignment.
Think I’ll move this from NT to LT.
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In post 304, ProfessorDrapion wrote:What’s your current town pool Gramps?
I think you had a way better game after your introduction that makes you more town especially with the good reactions from Luke pressuring you and other interactions after early game. The only thing I didn't like was post 35; That post really felt ingeninue but like I said you evolved and actually did better than what I expected.
But like I said earlier in my analysis; Mena and Bingle were also on my townreads.
Pooky and Dann are really my null reads. I am starting to not like Dann after recent psots but I still want to here from them.
I did say there was scum between you and Gypx but Gypx making no comment and not being here makes me to have to retract that read for now especially since I town read you now."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 305, Lukewarm wrote:
If you are referring to the game where I replaced out, my replacement got voted out Day 1. So you can already check my alignment from that game.In post 297, GrandpaMo wrote:I am also waiting on a game to end so I can also see if your slot was scummy ( I think you should know what game I am referencing) but we can't talk about on going games so no further discussion on that please.
Oh yea! LMAO That is where I called T3 scum just because of there weird difference playstyle than Newbie 2059 but I realized that was because they were probably in a more slower game compared to my game I played earlier with them. Also, I thought you were towny that game but T3 made you scummy. I will have to do some meta analysis and I will catch up with you."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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Under the post 138 quote of that ^
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Because pooky was being scumread on individuality, then I saw that pooky quote which is surface level logic. I am now obligated to townread pooky just because they are starting to play the similar way I inteneded. I still want to hear from Pooky's reads.In post 311, Gypyx wrote:
why isn't Pooky in your main solve if a50 being scum relies on associatives with em'?In post 168, GrandpaMo wrote:In post 167, ProfessorDrapion wrote:(A50 said he SR’s VPN not you, if that makes things more clear)
He put me as the solve. Probably just to see my reaction. My gamesolve is Lukewarm/A50/ >>> There is a world where A50 is paired with Pooky just because of openly defending. That means that would make Gypx and Darp both town which is a weird read honestly. I still need to get
pedit: yea i agree t3 thats why I am slowly just backing up and seeing other worlds where the people in my scumpool could be scum."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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bad rxn imoIn post 318, Gypyx wrote:i don't read posts
you were voting me? otherwise nope it wasn't, just not seeing the stuff that you mention
and well yes
you're saying there's better case material on you out there, so spill the beans my man / pokemon / robot pretending to be a pokemon, what are those posts?
pedit : not reading the pedits, that was a response to 314"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 327, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Actually hold on I’ll see if I can ISO some of it.
You won't really find anything other Pooky just meming with Menq and Bingle and A50 being offended by me scumreading them and puts me in their solve with VPN and Gypx lol"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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can we get a prod on the afk here? that could also be a viable scumslot that we haven't seen yet"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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man not menaIn post 337, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
Hasn’t Mena posted recently?In post 335, GrandpaMo wrote:specifically pine and man?"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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are those ur reads?In post 336, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
Ok now here’s what I got for you.In post 328, T3 wrote:I do think Lukewarm had a good defense I'll have to think on it.
Top 3 Town: Bingle, GrandpaMo, (?)
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yea same, I had to go to player list to check in and realized man didn't even postIn post 341, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
Oh damn.In post 338, GrandpaMo wrote:
man not menaIn post 337, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
Hasn’t Mena posted recently?In post 335, GrandpaMo wrote:specifically pine and man?
Yeah just looked at player list didn’t even realize ManWithNoName was in this game.
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this is a bad vote imo
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In post 361, Dannflor wrote:
define real readIn post 300, GrandpaMo wrote:
hey dann was this ever a real read? Also you are hypocritical to that fact for calling out mena for giving no content while you gave no content as well.In post 84, Dannflor wrote:guys gypyx and bingle are scum together
as real as it could be for being gut feelings five pages into the game
but feelings early change on a dime
Bingle I've developed some more thoughts on but I'm reserving those for right now
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In post 366, Dannflor wrote:
I don't mean this to be obtuseIn post 364, Dannflor wrote:is how real it was or is going to help you sort me?
I'm just trying to get to whatever the point is of this line of questioning
Lol I asked a simple question and that is because it will help me clear my thought. I look at pairings and interactions other people's reads. So knowing how you pair them is viable to me. It was also your entrance that's why I asked in the first place because I didn't know if it was serious."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 372, Lukewarm wrote:
??In post 328, T3 wrote:I do think Lukewarm had a good defense I'll have to think on it.
I am pretty sure my defense was the same before and after post 258. What changed your mind?
Well from my perspective you had a fair assessment in your quote which in my definition different than defense. I don't know what T3 is talking about here honestly."With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3- GrandpaMo
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In post 376, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:my townlist so far:
A50
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Nullish:
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Lukewarn
Need Posting:
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In post 394, Not_Mafia wrote:Drapion is scum though, I've read the first 2 pages
eh i think gypx is way more scum than drap. drap has been very solvy on finding mafia wit a town mindset imo. the interation wit them and gypx just made gypx look worse. they also had good reactions against luke. i might be biased tho"With grandpa in the game the postcount goes up and up and up and up...." - T3 - GrandpaMo
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