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Yeah Should have gotten on sooner and gave me that sandwich.In post 24, Menalque wrote:We’ve all failed, bingle made it to thread- ProfessorDrapion
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VOTE: BingleIn post 28, VFP wrote:Gypyx trying to derail the wagon?!- ProfessorDrapion
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Sure I’m down to do the mass psych check D2.In post 33, Bingle wrote:Optimal play is for baby to target Allen and Allen to aim for scrum.
We all pseudoclaim a psych inno D2 and maybe later day phases on the basis of how kills pan out. psych claims immediately if has guilty (although letting pseudoclaims happen is reasonable for extra analysis fodder). Mafia likely use the roleblocker to kill n1 as they are most valuable. They also likely don’t target with their roleblock N1, as it is greater utility as the game proceeds.
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Ah I see.
A challenger approaches me!
Prepare to endure a battle!
Now I attack!
Take myPoison Tail!- ProfessorDrapion
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In post 54, Menalque wrote:Oh if it’s hectic it’s not so bad
I thought prof was a newbie (prof do you have any pronoun preference?)Shadow Claw
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If I was a newbie I wouldn’t have been rejected in the Newbie queue for trying to sneak my way in there.In post 57, Menalque wrote:Are you a newbie prof?- ProfessorDrapion
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I’m exactly what my name says I am.In post 56, Bingle wrote:What brings you to the site, Mr. Pokeymans sir?
What kind of Pokémon are you? Are you loyal through and through? Share with me your secrets deep inside.
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Nice entrance.
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In post 71, Bingle wrote:So I have a spicy tinfoil theory. I think that professor Drapion is not actually a drapion at all and is a robot attempting to pretend to be a drapion for the purposes of making achieving a professorship more impressive. I know, I know, this is all very farfetch’d, but I do have evidence.
Firstly, drapion has been established to evolve at level 40, which as everyone knows is a very rare occurrence in a game of mafia. Usually you have to have several weirdos running conflicting gambits to even get close to level 10 play. I find it very unlikely that someone with no completed games has managed to pull of a high enough level maneuver to evolve.
He COULD be a naturally occurring drapion, as drapion have been encountered in many places. This is exceedingly unlikely on the basis that there have been 0 wild drapion sightings in Central Park. Indeed, there aren’t even any confirmed drapion sightings in the greater New York area. Occams suggests that such a large Pokémon would have been spotted at least once during its migration.
Cyborg actually, had a translator transplant.
Furthermore, when I began quoting music from Pokémon soundtracks, drapion remained ignorant of the context and didn’t respond to his supposed people’s music. I find this very suspicious.
Thirdly, when preparing to battle Mena, drapion mentioned that his claw was ready. Claw: singular, not plural. As everyone knows, drapion as a species has two claws, four spiked limbs and a scorpion like tail. This lack of biological familiarity with his supposed species is highly suspicious.
Finally, it is common knowledge that very few Pokémon have learned to speak proper English. Among those who have, a predilection towards using their own species name (such as the famous Team Rocket Meowth) is still common. drapion has shown a distinct lack of these behaviors. Clearly, the preponderance of evidence shows: Drapion must be a robot.- ProfessorDrapion
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Cyborg actually, had a translator transplant.In post 71, Bingle wrote:So I have a spicy tinfoil theory. I think that professor Drapion is not actually a drapion at all and is a robot attempting to pretend to be a drapion for the purposes of making achieving a professorship more impressive. I know, I know, this is all very farfetch’d, but I do have evidence.
Firstly, drapion has been established to evolve at level 40, which as everyone knows is a very rare occurrence in a game of mafia. Usually you have to have several weirdos running conflicting gambits to even get close to level 10 play. I find it very unlikely that someone with no completed games has managed to pull of a high enough level maneuver to evolve.
He COULD be a naturally occurring drapion, as drapion have been encountered in many places. This is exceedingly unlikely on the basis that there have been 0 wild drapion sightings in Central Park. Indeed, there aren’t even any confirmed drapion sightings in the greater New York area. Occams suggests that such a large Pokémon would have been spotted at least once during its migration.
Furthermore, when I began quoting music from Pokémon soundtracks, drapion remained ignorant of the context and didn’t respond to his supposed people’s music. I find this very suspicious.
Thirdly, when preparing to battle Mena, drapion mentioned that his claw was ready. Claw: singular, not plural. As everyone knows, drapion as a species has two claws, four spiked limbs and a scorpion like tail. This lack of biological familiarity with his supposed species is highly suspicious.
Finally, it is common knowledge that very few Pokémon have learned to speak proper English. Among those who have, a predilection towards using their own species name (such as the famous Team Rocket Meowth) is still common. drapion has shown a distinct lack of these behaviors. Clearly, the preponderance of evidence shows: Drapion must be a robot.
(Messed up quote before)- ProfessorDrapion
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I mean technically Mewtwo is the first talking Pokémon and there not exactly a criminal.In post 79, Lukewarm wrote:
VOTE: ProfessorIn post 55, ProfessorDrapion wrote:In post 54, Menalque wrote:Oh if it’s hectic it’s not so bad
I thought prof was a newbie (prof do you have any pronoun preference?)Shadow Claw
I do, He/Pokemon
Claims he is a pokemon, but he can talk. The first pokemon I think of that can talk, is in fact,A CRIMINAL
Checkmate.
I am the Best Pokémon.
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I have 2 more moves up my sleeve.In post 80, Lukewarm wrote:
Ohh, and interesting counter theory. Either way, all signs are pointing to the professor. I am happy with my vote.In post 71, Bingle wrote:So I have a spicy tinfoil theory. I think that professor Drapion is not actually a drapion at all and is a robot attempting to pretend to be a drapion for the purposes of making achieving a professorship more impressive. I know, I know, this is all very farfetch’d, but I do have evidence.
Firstly, drapion has been established to evolve at level 40, which as everyone knows is a very rare occurrence in a game of mafia. Usually you have to have several weirdos running conflicting gambits to even get close to level 10 play. I find it very unlikely that someone with no completed games has managed to pull of a high enough level maneuver to evolve.
He COULD be a naturally occurring drapion, as drapion have been encountered in many places. This is exceedingly unlikely on the basis that there have been 0 wild drapion sightings in Central Park. Indeed, there aren’t even any confirmed drapion sightings in the greater New York area. Occams suggests that such a large Pokémon would have been spotted at least once during its migration.
Furthermore, when I began quoting music from Pokémon soundtracks, drapion remained ignorant of the context and didn’t respond to his supposed people’s music. I find this very suspicious.
Thirdly, when preparing to battle Mena, drapion mentioned that his claw was ready. Claw: singular, not plural. As everyone knows, drapion as a species has two claws, four spiked limbs and a scorpion like tail. This lack of biological familiarity with his supposed species is highly suspicious.
Finally, it is common knowledge that very few Pokémon have learned to speak proper English. Among those who have, a predilection towards using their own species name (such as the famous Team Rocket Meowth) is still common. drapion has shown a distinct lack of these behaviors. Clearly, the preponderance of evidence shows: Drapion must be a robot.
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Isn’t there 3 Mafia?In post 82, Gypyx wrote:
psych innos aren't worth much though, given that there's litterally only 1 scum that would be theoretically guiltyable night 1In post 33, Bingle wrote:Optimal play is for baby to target Allen and Allen to aim for scrum.
We all pseudoclaim a psych inno D2 and maybe later day phases on the basis of how kills pan out. psych claims immediately if has guilty (although letting pseudoclaims happen is reasonable for extra analysis fodder). Mafia likely use the roleblocker to kill n1 as they are most valuable. They also likely don’t target with their roleblock N1, as it is greater utility as the game proceeds.
No more mech discussion, including clarification about scum action optimization or WHY I would share such action optimization is appropriate on D1.
we have higer odds of narrowing the PR pool for maf than anything
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I mean, what would you report them for?In post 90, Bingle wrote:
When trying to quote this, I accidentally hit the report button originally. Probably because I’m so used to being BETRAYED.In post 84, Dannflor wrote:guys gypyx and bingle are scum together- ProfessorDrapion
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I can get behind this.
VOTE: gypyx
Now Bingle, got any other early reads?- ProfessorDrapion
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I liked the way Mena went about my slot when they voted me. It doesn’t seem to be “faked” per say. So I would slightly TR Mena there.In post 99, Bingle wrote:
Mena slightly scummy, pooky low priority, your slot has tells but I need to wait for the psych evaluation result to determine if they’re scummy or towny. Dann strongest townread. I’d be voting lukewarm if I weren’t voting gypyx, but I think the gypyx wagon is more likely to be spicy atm.In post 96, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Now Bingle, got any other early reads?
You?
I personally like the way VFP has handled the thread. Not much content but it felt genuine. More of a gut read then anything but I trust it at least for now.
T3’s entrance wasn’t entirely bad but it was definitely not a great entrance. I’ll probably watch this slot and it’s progression towards Pooky.
As for Pooky themselves, well. I’m not really sure where to put them. From the majority of what I seen, their agenda is just Sheeping Mena.
I think your first big post (the one with the Psyc Check thing) felt towny. I want to vote with you for now and see where it goes and see further progression towards your slot.
As for Gypyx, I don’t know.
His first post seemed like jealous of me taken his spotlight.
His other posts haven’t really done much.
I believe 3 were Filler and the other was a turn down towards your Psych Plan Bingle. (If I remember correctly.)- ProfessorDrapion
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So your telling me you think this:In post 100, Menalque wrote:*announcer voice*
And yes, that’s dannflor entering the thread folks, ooh, it’s not off to a good start! How many yikes out of 5 is that judges?
4/5 yikes! Hoo boy, that’s a lot of yikes for dannflor’s entrance!
Is more yikes then this:In post 84, Dannflor wrote:guys gypyx and bingle are scum together- ProfessorDrapion
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Hmm?In post 104, Bingle wrote:Hmmm.Too many scum reads, not enough time. Monkey get your ass in here, I have need of you.
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NGL.
I didn’t notice that till you pointed it out.- ProfessorDrapion
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Why do you think that?In post 115, Dannflor wrote:Drapion, I think T3 is town- ProfessorDrapion
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This is what I’m “ew” on?In post 125, Gypyx wrote:
on the other hand, ew @ thisIn post 113, ProfessorDrapion wrote:NGL.
I didn’t notice that till you pointed it out.
VOTE: professor
still not a fan of Pooky ftr
I could probably give you like 3 others posts I’ve made that is more “ew” then that one.
Like can you explain?
Feels like your just trying to reach for a reason to vote me.- ProfessorDrapion
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So another words.In post 130, Almost50 wrote:Hey, everyone.. I have a confession to make: this player list is so awesome I dare not post as much as it would disturb the flow of my own entertainment. I am reading though, so don't think otherwise.
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I said I didn’t notice it to be consider that way. If you read my ISO you will know I GT’ed VFP.In post 135, Gypyx wrote:
just the way you apparently take this seriously without doing the appropriate actions in that case (a vote)In post 128, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
This is what I’m “ew” on?In post 125, Gypyx wrote:
on the other hand, ew @ thisIn post 113, ProfessorDrapion wrote:NGL.
I didn’t notice that till you pointed it out.
VOTE: professor
still not a fan of Pooky ftr
I could probably give you like 3 others posts I’ve made that is more “ew” then that one.
Like can you explain?
Feels like your just trying to reach for a reason to vote me.
but hey, what do you think is scummier than that and for what reasons now that you're on the topic?
Unless your referring to the after when you placed your vote, well if you go look at the thread I’m already voting you.
For your last part, if you read my ISO you can find allot better stuff to case me on.
I’m saying I feel like you just grab a random post of mine to vote me on.- ProfessorDrapion
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Explain your VFP read.In post 138, Bingle wrote:Town:
Dannflor
T3
PookyTheMagicalBear
Almost50
Needs more content before being arbitrarily shuffled into a pile:
GrandpaMo
ManWithNoName
Pine
Scum:
Lukewarm
VFP
Menalque
ProfessorDrapion
Gypyx
Yes. All nine of those are genuine reads with genuine reasoning. I'm not going to bother explaining most of them at the moment, and they're loosely ordered based on how accurate my gut says they might be.- ProfessorDrapion
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You didn’t mention them before here so I’m curious your reasonings.In post 99, Bingle wrote:
Mena slightly scummy, pooky low priority, your slot has tells but I need to wait for the psych evaluation result to determine if they’re scummy or towny. Dann strongest townread. I’d be voting lukewarm if I weren’t voting gypyx, but I think the gypyx wagon is more likely to be spicy atm.In post 96, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Now Bingle, got any other early reads?
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I think their entrance was fine.In post 147, Bingle wrote:
Entrance was aggressively meh, seems to be moderately around and yet is only addressing topics that don't really have substance.In post 143, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Explain your VFP read.
I officially endorse A50 poking this with a stick.
Their reaction towards A50 talking about it was also fine and not panicky as scum may be in that scenario.
Like with T3’s entrance, he added “wtf” then votes.
I mean I guess it makes sense if it’s regarding the sheeping but that’s borderline NAI, but I mean it’s not really wolfy, I also believe VFP had a better entrance but I suppose that’s a personal opinion.- ProfessorDrapion
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I don’t know what you think voting me twice is gonna change.In post 151, Lukewarm wrote:VOTE: Professor
I know that he was my RVS vote, but now I actually have a scumlean on him- ProfessorDrapion
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You might.In post 164, GrandpaMo wrote:In post 162, Almost50 wrote:My current solve is VPN, Gypyx, and that angry Gran'pa guy. (Who posts in red? SCUM DO. Butseriously; why am I scum to them? BECAUSE I SCUM READ BOTH THEIR BIDDIES. Simple).
No? I townread VPF and see scum between Gypx and Darp. Again if you are willing to make a read on me, then please read what I have said and not make assumptions. This is exactly why I said what I said earlier.
I might.
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Well first off I like the detail you put into the post.In post 160, GrandpaMo wrote:In post 157, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Good Post!
What do you think of my reads? Don't just say good post. Explain why its good and give reasoning. Please and thank you.
Your overall opinion regarding the game state and your input of reads felt genuine and you added something new as giving more pressure to those who weren’t receiving it (Your Top SR’s)
Despite myself being put in your PoE, I liked how and the way you covered both me and Gypyx.
I wouldn’t say I straight out town read you for this but I’ll definitely Lean you to more rand town.- ProfessorDrapion
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I’m “Drap”In post 168, GrandpaMo wrote:In post 167, ProfessorDrapion wrote:(A50 said he SR’s VPN not you, if that makes things more clear)
He put me as the solve. Probably just to see my reaction. My gamesolve is Lukewarm/A50/ >>> There is a world where A50 is paired with Pooky just because of openly defending. That means that would make Gypx and Darp both town which is a weird read honestly. I still need to get info.. And you don’t need to express the post in 3rd Person since your responding directly to me. I’m Drap so just say me and Gypyx not Drap and Gypyx.Spoiler:- ProfessorDrapion
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1) I joined it due to Gypyx derailing when Bingle was top wagon.In post 197, Lukewarm wrote:As for why I scumlean Professor, it was a combination of a bunch of posts.
Spoiler:
Once I iso'ed him, I saw a lot of evidence that he was just following whatever other people were saying. Jumping on wagons without reason, blindly agreeing with other people when they made posts that I automatically questioned, and harping on someone's rsv vote.
None of them would have stood out individually, but when I iso'ed him there was a bunch of little things that pinged me, and no posts that made me townlean him, so I am happy with that vote for now.
2) Blindly accepting? I’ve seen that kind of thing done before and I personally have no issues with it.
3) Called them out? I was just making a sarcastic response towards their entrance post.
4) Yeah I wanted to see where it leads and and have no issues voting there as I have no reason to TR Gypyx at all, I explained why I Scum Lean them if you want to go back and read it.
5)I just think worse then Dann’s entrance. I also don’t even think Dann’s entrance is even that bad. T3’s isn’t entirely wolfy but it just isn’t a good entrance I feel.
6) When did I ever say I accept it? Let alone blindly. I just didn’t notice it can be looked that way until he pointed it out.
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Hey!In post 246, GrandpaMo wrote:Sorry I forgot to put spoiler tags up there^^
That’s my post up there!- ProfessorDrapion
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In post 248, Menalque wrote:Do u have a read on me yet professor
Read.In post 103, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I liked the way Mena went about my slot when they voted me. It doesn’t seem to be “faked” per say. So I would slightly TR Mena there.In post 99, Bingle wrote:
Mena slightly scummy, pooky low priority, your slot has tells but I need to wait for the psych evaluation result to determine if they’re scummy or towny. Dann strongest townread. I’d be voting lukewarm if I weren’t voting gypyx, but I think the gypyx wagon is more likely to be spicy atm.In post 96, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Now Bingle, got any other early reads?
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I personally like the way VFP has handled the thread. Not much content but it felt genuine. More of a gut read then anything but I trust it at least for now.
T3’s entrance wasn’t entirely bad but it was definitely not a great entrance. I’ll probably watch this slot and it’s progression towards Pooky.
As for Pooky themselves, well. I’m not really sure where to put them. From the majority of what I seen, their agenda is just Sheeping Mena.
I think your first big post (the one with the Psyc Check thing) felt towny. I want to vote with you for now and see where it goes and see further progression towards your slot.
As for Gypyx, I don’t know.
His first post seemed like jealous of me taken his spotlight.
His other posts haven’t really done much.
I believe 3 were Filler and the other was a turn down towards your Psych Plan Bingle. (If I remember correctly.)- ProfessorDrapion
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Gypyx. The person I’m voting for and stated I have a Scum Lean on?In post 250, Lukewarm wrote:
Well are there any players that you are currently suspicious of?In post 245, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
1) I joined it due to Gypyx derailing when Bingle was top wagon.In post 197, Lukewarm wrote:As for why I scumlean Professor, it was a combination of a bunch of posts.
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Once I iso'ed him, I saw a lot of evidence that he was just following whatever other people were saying. Jumping on wagons without reason, blindly agreeing with other people when they made posts that I automatically questioned, and harping on someone's rsv vote.
None of them would have stood out individually, but when I iso'ed him there was a bunch of little things that pinged me, and no posts that made me townlean him, so I am happy with that vote for now.
2) Blindly accepting? I’ve seen that kind of thing done before and I personally have no issues with it.
3) Called them out? I was just making a sarcastic response towards their entrance post.
4) Yeah I wanted to see where it leads and and have no issues voting there as I have no reason to TR Gypyx at all, I explained why I Scum Lean them if you want to go back and read it.
5)I just think worse then Dann’s entrance. I also don’t even think Dann’s entrance is even that bad. T3’s isn’t entirely wolfy but it just isn’t a good entrance I feel.
6) When did I ever say I accept it? Let alone blindly. I just didn’t notice it can be looked that way until he pointed it out.
7)I hope I answered your concerns regarding my “little things”.
Null on you but depending on your upcoming content and opinions regarding the main focused slots (such as myself) I should have more of a solid read on you that could or could not be a type of scum read.
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So I take it you don’t want to bother reviewing your read on me or responding to me when I went over your concerns.In post 259, Lukewarm wrote:My current reads are
And then a bunch of people still sitting in Null.
Most of my experience has been in the newbie queue so far, stepping out into the Open queue definitely has a different feel. The fact that half the players so obviously know each other makes it harder to read everyone's interactions.
Alright.
I Scum Lean you now.- ProfessorDrapion
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Conclusion after reading Dann’s ISO:
So he goes straight into the game going for a scum team guess. Which while some might find wolfy I find it somewhat towny as he came right into it looking to solve the game.
I mean despite it not really being that serious (or at least I think so) considering they sheeped Bingle’s vote on Gypyx. (Sorta like me).
As a responses towards Mana “Yikes” Dann responds with “When you wanna be worried is when your reaction to my posting *isn't* yikes”
Which I suppose is saying he’s Yikes as Town and not as Mafia or something of that such.
I mean it’s a decent response I’d say, sure if they are scum they could have said that to throw it off as trying to make them think Yikes is normal for them so no one looks further into it, but I do think this is a good response regardless rather it be town or scum motivated.
Then he directs to me that he TR’s T3.
I mean it’s a read. Could or could not be helpful down the line, good to note I suppose.
I mean I wouldn’t say I Lean Town him, least not yet. I would like some more content from them to see if I want to go up or down on my read on them.
But as of now I’ll put them in Null Town.- ProfessorDrapion
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Think your a little confused on your read there buddy.In post 268, Lukewarm wrote:
I wouldn't say that they are in order, more like just two groups atm.In post 261, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Like he had time to respond before and after that readslist.
He also hasn’t explained much of his reads (or at least not that I’m aware of)
Like his highest TR according to the sheet is Gypyx...
But I have explained why I scumlean you, and I did not think your response was enough for me to change it. This is why I said that I scumleaned you:
It was a 2 part reason. "a bunch of little things," and no posts that made meIn post 197, Lukewarm wrote:when I iso'ed him there was a bunch of little things that pinged me, and no posts that made me townlean him, so I am happy with that vote for now.town lean you. Yes, you tried to address the little things, and I took your response into consideration, but I still havenot seen any townie postsfrom you, so my read on you stayed the same.
I am townleaning gypyx because of his response to the me/bingle interaction. He is the one who made me realize that I had misunderstood bingle, when I feel like scum could have just stayed quiet and let the misunderstanding sit.
You scum lean me if I recall not Town lean me, unless you just randomly 180’d you mis put “Town” instead of “Scum” which kinda makes me believe you aren’t entirely genuine about your read towards me.
You don’t believe me to have done anything Townie then keep watching me and I’m sure I’ll reveal my alignment eventually. If we both survive for tomorrow and you have the exact same read on me and nothing has changed, Boi I may have to bring up my 3rd Pokémon Move on you.
Um, If you read my posts I’m pretty sure I clarified my reasons and it shouldn’t have been that hard to catch on to what it was.
I don’t think helping with misunderstandings is AI? Considering A50 pointed out something I didn’t see and while it wasn’t entirely a misunderstanding it’s something I missed. It doesn’t really mean anything in the long run but I did miss it. I’m also pretty sure it was You (or maybe Gypyx) who called me out on it being bad.
I don’t know, if your only reason to TR Gypyx is “helped with misunderstandings” I hope you have more to add to that read of yours down the line.- ProfessorDrapion
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I mean it’s NAI mostly, scum or town can say that.In post 293, Dannflor wrote:@ProfDrapion, I just think T3's entrance was genuine emotionally
it's very simple and straightforward but also like the type of slightly scummy posting scum tends to want to avoid
when I look for scum entrances I look for the posters who are trying to make themselves look good
It’s just that I don’t find it as a good entrance compared to others.
I do have to agree with you that scum may try and go for the LAMIST play.
(As in try and look Townie as much as they can)- ProfessorDrapion
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I like this post.In post 294, Dannflor wrote:I have no idea why Bingle is town reading me, he shouldn't be but he probably has reasons for it
I'm not going to argue anything I've done so far is indicative of radiant town!dann blah blah blah
I'm just like, so thrown by the fact that Menalque thinks I should be radiating town within my first five posts.
Menalque, you've made 47 posts and I can pull threads of alignment out of maybe three of them.
Questioning TR.
Explain how stuff is NAI.
This is a good reaction towards Mena and I sorta agree with what he’s saying.
He seems quite genuine here regardless of alignment.
Think I’ll move this from NT to LT.- ProfessorDrapion
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This is another good response.In post 295, Dannflor wrote:And I know you're not voting me anymore and I know this is a very-early stage read
but it's baffling to me that I became your top scum read because I didn't radiate towniness in my first five posts
It feels quite forced and as someone who probably knows me well enough to know that I have a habit of town reading people who go after me early... It makes me quite uncomfortable
can you um, explain please- ProfessorDrapion
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Well I think it was more of the fact Mena was pushing on him for it.In post 300, GrandpaMo wrote:
hey dann was this ever a real read? Also you are hypocritical to that fact for calling out mena for giving no content while you gave no content as well.In post 84, Dannflor wrote:guys gypyx and bingle are scum together - ProfessorDrapion
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