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I think you're cleared from the lack of hammers
I think mo is condemned
so it's really just between bingle and NM for me atp
I guess the only other thing is that it *might* still be NM and bingle where N_M (who is very canny) perceived my shifting stance on mo and decided to vote there to capitalise on that before my opinion had become locked in
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In post 2159, Ydrasse wrote:thank god im finally having my hand held through these games like it's baby's first forum maf this is the experience i need in life*pats head"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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I want to solve while I'm still alive
I think there's reasonable odds that the remaining scum kills you but I also think there's a good chance they kill me
therefore I'd like to be as close to sure on the team as I can be to issue as strong a case for you to follow on whoever's left tomorrow in the event that I die"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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like it's worth noting that I'm cleared in all cases other than being scum with mo and I uh
think that it's abundantly clear from how he's been playing around me that we're not paired
also from my general play and how hard I'm trying to solve this game instead of just force anyone through"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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I bear u no illwill over that lol and I'm a lil surprised you think I wouldIn post 2178, Bingle wrote:
I just randed scum against you in SH, and that's gonna make you want to hero win against me despite that I'm crazy town.In post 2149, Menalque wrote:
eh?In post 2148, Bingle wrote:Well, town probably loses now. Stupid randing scum in SH.
I actually haven't been paying attention here. can someone give me a tldr?
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I think that when you try you're a lot better than you like to let onIn post 2196, Not_Mafia wrote:
Do you really think I pay this kind of attention?In post 2160, Menalque wrote:I guess the only other thing is that it *might* still be NM and bingle where N_M (who is very canny) perceived my shifting stance on mo and decided to vote there to capitalise on that before my opinion had become locked in
but that seems unlikely given mo's insistence on not voting conf!scum to him"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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In post 2201, Bingle wrote:I feel like I'm pretty obviously not S/S with mo, tbh.
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Who are you S/S with?In post 2201, Bingle wrote:I feel like I'm pretty obviously not S/S with mo, tbh.
if there's any scum team I can dream up who would be this brazen
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No lolIn post 2287, GrandpaMo wrote:wait mena i have a question, from your pov, do you think there is anyway it could be y and bingle/nm?"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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Not true, at least one other did (I think lukewarm)In post 2289, Bingle wrote:I was the only one who actually cased him iirc."we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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I actually did realise this after the fact but didn’t mention for a couple of reasonsIn post 2326, Bingle wrote:Mena never considered you and mo.
(1) the lack of anyone I could trust between the four of you was driving me insane and ydra’s reaction felt authentically happy... which I guess it was but for the wrong reason
(2) I figured that if it was ydra/mo then pretending to believe she was conf would get me brought to F3 instead of killed"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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Gypyx repping out was really annoying because that made the slot about a million times harder for me to read
Mo continuing to try after being essentially conf!scum with me leaning scum on him was giving me doubts
But mainly I was really paranoid about NM/Bingle
NM I maintain did nothing really AI this game as per usual
And bingle felt like he was way too confident on NM being town, and then also too confident in me being town before I think that was obvious"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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But the most frustrating thing is that I saw this before I went to bed and it swung me back towards voting mo this morningIn post 2300, Bingle wrote:Mena, if I'm scum with N_M, why do I draw attention to the implications of Y going V/LA past the deadline? I could maybe see an argument there if I was partnered with Mo, looking for the towncred tomorrow. Why do I undermine my position in the 1v1 by not explicitly town reading you and Y and just throwing N_M under the bus when it probably just wins me the game with a Mo lim tomorrow?"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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I don't disagree that it was winnable, and I know that I bear the vast brunt of the responsibility for this loss, but it was very hard from my PoV. I don't think I have a bias towards dismissing you, but I do think that you're consistent enough between your scumgame and your towngame that expecting me to know the difference between you bussing someone and you having good reads is somewhat unreasonable.In post 2365, Not_Mafia wrote:
I think this was winnable and you have a bias towards dismissing me or wanting me to be scum.In post 2350, Menalque wrote:This game feels sort of like a case lesson in why ability to look town is often much greater utility than having good reads
Nonetheless, congrats and gg scum and thanks mod for hosting
wait, even dead pt we have to wait for redactions?In post 2366, lendunistus wrote:
mod PT will come in a few hours, mafia and dead PT will be released in 24 hours to allow for redactions to be madeIn post 2360, Ydrasse wrote:the setup seemed cool even if i didn’t get to use any of it ;;
when do we get pts?
Maybe I'm being unfair then, but there were several specific issues which I think I already laid out, but basically -- your read on me D1, your disappearance after pressing for the scumflip on D1, the fact that you felt to me far too confident on both me and on NM, the fact that you hadn't been killed, the fact you and NM felt very in sync on final day which reminded me very strongly of this game where I ruled out the scumteam precisely because they were weirdly in sync and I thought that they wouldn't be so obvious (+ that if it was them then with their already being in sync they'd just push someone instead of waiting) -- that prevented me from getting to a point where I could trust in that read.In post 2371, Bingle wrote:
I disagree very much that I didn’t look town Mena. As evidenced by the literally every other player townreading me.In post 2350, Menalque wrote:This game feels sort of like a case lesson in why ability to look town is often much greater utility than having good reads
Also mo just felt TSTBS quite a lot which was a mistake, given hindsight. Should've just followed the RC policy lim rule there."we knew everything... And we knew nothing."- Menalque
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more or less balanced but maybe a little too swingy in it's current iteration. maybe just make the lovers masons or neighbours or something, this going to mountainous like that with a de facto useless third PR shot the difficulty up considerably. having had one of them for an extra night would maybe have helpedIn post 2359, lendunistus wrote:i’d be interested to hear your thoughts on the setup in general."we knew everything... And we knew nothing."Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
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