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What's up?
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Keep waiting for me to myself. *Pat pat.*In post 109, HockeyFan wrote:Nothing much, just waiting for u to yourself as scum
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What did you find odd about it?
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What about it is weird?In post 121, Galron wrote:"Hello."
"What's up?"
First page maybe, but five pages in, seems weird.- Vulture
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In post 131, Not_Mafia wrote:In post 124, Vulture wrote:
What about it is weird?In post 121, Galron wrote:"Hello."
"What's up?"
First page maybe, but five pages in, seems weird.
Convince me not to shoot you in your next post or you die- Vulture
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Meh.In post 174, Not_Mafia wrote:
Why?In post 173, Vulture wrote:I think the fact that they're joking makes them more of an issue, tbh.
If I was trying to get in good with the person with a gun I'd try to be funny about it rather than directing them to do XYZ.
I also think Luke would do it like this as well, specifically.- Vulture
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See, these posts gross me out, even if it's a reply to my criticism.In post 175, Lukewarm wrote:I was serious when I said that I think that Not_Mafia is a good scum hunter. I have played several games with him, and his reads have been very accurate. But a lot of people like to ignore his reads because of his play style.
After the game aliensitter, where not_mafia had the entire scum team pegged day 1, and town still lost because people did not listen to him, I decided that I should start vocalizing his read accuracy in every game that we have together.
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It's pretty obvious that Art thinks the same thing that I did in 150.In post 177, HockeyFan wrote:The whole set of interactions about Art's interactions are super ?? We have me(partially) and T3 defending luke and not agreeing with art's sr, and on the other hand we have Vulture apparently being to read Art's mind and intention for the SR? Makes no sense. Art/Vulture seems too level 1, but so does T3/Luke soo. Fwiw, I do think one of these pairs CAN exist, but not just because of these 2 posts- Vulture
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So, I think you put me in the alt category early on, and I forgot to ask:In post 182, T3 wrote:I metadived Vulture and looked at his games. Town Vulture usually posts scummy and devoid of content sounding one-liners but will occasionally interject with a longer post that has content. This seems to be the same a Vulture this game. This read holds less merit for 2 reasons.
1. He's an alt.
2. He doesn't have a scumgame on this account.
If I'm right about who he is then I've played with him a bit on his other alts but I don't think it matters because the play doesn't match up.
You've played games with me before on this account, two I believe. Why do you need to metadive me when you have experience with me?- Vulture
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In less than a week?In post 185, T3 wrote:
I forgot how you played.In post 183, Vulture wrote:
So, I think you put me in the alt category early on, and I forgot to ask:In post 182, T3 wrote:I metadived Vulture and looked at his games. Town Vulture usually posts scummy and devoid of content sounding one-liners but will occasionally interject with a longer post that has content. This seems to be the same a Vulture this game. This read holds less merit for 2 reasons.
1. He's an alt.
2. He doesn't have a scumgame on this account.
If I'm right about who he is then I've played with him a bit on his other alts but I don't think it matters because the play doesn't match up.
You've played games with me before on this account, two I believe. Why do you need to metadive me when you have experience with me?- Vulture
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Is it WTF because you disagree or because I expressed that I agree with a point that I had already made before Art.In post 198, T3 wrote:Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.- Vulture
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And what is the basis for your scumread after the last few posts?In post 210, HockeyFan wrote:Alright nvm im confused. Marci rolled scum in newbie 2061 and i actually like the tone of her early posts there. wtf, w/e im not putting too much stock into meta so
VOTE: Marci
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...so what about the content that she has posted, even if it is sparse. Do you agree/disagree with it?In post 216, HockeyFan wrote:In post 213, Vulture wrote:
And what is the basis for your scumread after the last few posts?In post 210, HockeyFan wrote:Alright nvm im confused. Marci rolled scum in newbie 2061 and i actually like the tone of her early posts there. wtf, w/e im not putting too much stock into meta so
VOTE: Marci
<consider this a SR for now>Most of Marcis posts
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I dont like any of these quotes since they are either observations or filler. As for the whole sr based on tone, 129 and 141 stand out to me the most. The posts of marci's I didnt include are Marci just agreeing with everything Art said about luke which tbh I dont like either.- Vulture
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So, do you think Hockey is bussing Marci?In post 219, Lukewarm wrote:Okay then, if I was not_Mafia at the moment, and I was purposefully targetting someone I trusted with the gun, I would shoot either art or me (hubris, I know)
If I was shooting mainly for scum, I would shoot hockey or marci (I am sorry marci, but I can't let you keep doing this)- Vulture
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For example. ^In post 230, T3 wrote:
Newbies being all over the place and having complex thoughts like that is very strongly town indicative.In post 211, Art wrote:
Decides that he is going to defend Hockey because complex thoughts (when 177 isn't complex and there are other things you could say about it if you feasibly wanted to townread it, like the fact that Hockey mentally went "I am agreeing with T3 on Luke... but T3/Luke is a pairing" not even bothering to present himself as town because he knows it; complex is a buzzword meant to sound like you're reading into things when you're not) and thus, because Art does not agree, goes after Art without trying to engage beyond "you know better".
Everything's shallow from T3. Not-complex, if you want.- Vulture
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In post 275, Lukewarm wrote:My shoot recommendations are at
People I trust with a gun: Art and me
People that I think might flip scum : Hockey, T3, Marci
Have you actually said anything about Art this game other than asking if he was an alt?- Vulture
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If Marci is scum this post is the worst one beyond the meta read ones. >_>In post 234, T3 wrote:
I completely agree with your points about those posts sounding scummy [110 looks like a joke though]. Are they actually AI in the long run? I don't know.In post 226, HockeyFan wrote:
Ok so the other /content/ that wasnt mentioned here that marci has posted is 110,181 and 188.In post 217, Vulture wrote:
...so what about the content that she has posted, even if it is sparse. Do you agree/disagree with it?In post 216, HockeyFan wrote:In post 213, Vulture wrote:
And what is the basis for your scumread after the last few posts?In post 210, HockeyFan wrote:Alright nvm im confused. Marci rolled scum in newbie 2061 and i actually like the tone of her early posts there. wtf, w/e im not putting too much stock into meta so
VOTE: Marci
<consider this a SR for now>Most of Marcis posts
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I dont like any of these quotes since they are either observations or filler. As for the whole sr based on tone, 129 and 141 stand out to me the most. The posts of marci's I didnt include are Marci just agreeing with everything Art said about luke which tbh I dont like either.
110- Not reading much into this as its ehr first post. A bunch of one liners that arent really alligment-indictivae. Its intresting tho that she was hunting for Luke partners right off the bat to set up possible misshots later?
181- They just sheeped Art's read on Luke here, and I dont really like that.
188- She said in 181 that she likes Art's point just to say in 188 she disagrees with it? sounds kinda wack. Also more of the lazy sheeping of Art's read on Luke
Coming to think of it, most of marci's content posts(and even some of her non content posts) are directed towards Luke/her read on him which is ??? Could be possible partners just interacting with each other as much as possible to get everyone else to TR them, not sure tho
I think hold off on pushing marci or at least don't shoot her until I've formed a solid read on her.- Vulture
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I want to believe.In post 227, Lukewarm wrote:
Just to put this out there. Marci and I are friends, and we coordinate joining games at the same time so we can play together.In post 226, HockeyFan wrote:Coming to think of it, most of marci's content posts(and even some of her non content posts) are directed towards Luke/her read on him which is ??? Could be possible partners just interacting with each other as much as possible to get everyone else to TR them, not sure tho
So, I am suspicious of Marci, but the fact that she is interacting a bit more with me is not one of the reasons- Vulture
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...I do think town!T3 would have that big of an ego but I also don't think he's town here anyways.In post 359, Hectic wrote:
T3's reads this game have felt very deliberate and showy, that's one of themIn post 354, Vulture wrote:I saw it earlier and went "huh, that's weird" but thought Marci was townier than her other scum games.
T3/Marci makes sense at least if Luke is town but it's hard to get over how slimy he felt early on to me.
I'm not sure if town!T3 has big enough of an ego that he'd imply his read on marci is more important than the rest of the game's?
But yeah, he's been all flash and no substance all game.
Is that what that one Vulture with a hat/crown image was about? I couldn't make out that one.- Vulture
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Okay, so, who do you think are the scum scapegoating her if you think she's town?In post 398, Enchant wrote:
She is simple easy target.In post 397, HockeyFan wrote:In post 391, Enchant wrote:I know how this feeling.
For mafia overall.
I don't think she is competent with gun, no offense.
And she also have notstandart game for which she get scumreaded, but actually i don't think mafia would act so outrageous.
I really think, she obvious for try to force her as shot target, because she is easy gain suspiciouns and can quickly lose game via random.
You're spending time defending her but not offering the alternatives.- Vulture
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I was going to leave this with lol but this is provably wrong from the game alone that I linked regarding Marci earlier so...?In post 400, T3 wrote:
marciIn post 359, Hectic wrote:
T3's reads this game have felt very deliberate and showy, that's one of themIn post 354, Vulture wrote:I saw it earlier and went "huh, that's weird" but thought Marci was townier than her other scum games.
T3/Marci makes sense at least if Luke is town but it's hard to get over how slimy he felt early on to me.
I'm not sure if town!T3 has big enough of an ego that he'd imply his read on marci is more important than the rest of the game's?
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You are so incredibly wrong.In post 405, T3 wrote:
fine lolIn post 404, Lukewarm wrote:T3, sorry if I don't put a ton of stock in your op marci meta tell
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marci is really really really indecisive as scum and never vibereads anyone.
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According to your own words you've spent most of this game not understanding my posts/what's on my mind. Why do you bring this up now when you're prodded for more insight on what your reads are.In post 448, marcistar wrote:Vulture -still a scumread xoxo
alot of their stuff seems a bit noncommittal, like yeah they put thoughts out there but its stuff that i feel like they could easily back out of if need be. alot of its making player x develop their reads on player y.
up until 371 (which is very recently i thinks)i cant really tell what theyre thinking at all.i think their posting style is very easy to make itlookbusy.
You said earlier that you couldn't quite express why you thought I was scum but now you're saying this which is, imo, a simple concept that you could have put out there before.- Vulture
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^ Calling her a scapegoat but not doing anything about it or finding the alternatives and the reasons for thinking she’s town are hollow and not really based in her gameplay. “Outrageous” feels like a filler word.In post 391, Enchant wrote:I know how this feeling.
For mafia overall.
I don't think she is competent with gun, no offense.
And she also have notstandart game for which she get scumreaded, but actually i don't think mafia would act so outrageous.
I really think, she obvious for try to force her as shot target, because she is easy gain suspiciouns and can quickly lose game via random.- Vulture
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Don’t tempt me with what I have tried to let go.
Earlier on, it did feel more like Luke wanted to convince me that he was genuine about how he was treating N_M which I still think was weird given the fact that if he was town he should have bit back or wondered more “huh, wonder why they’re saying this.”
Maybe he wasn’t worried because I was the only person who was saying it and N_M had already threaten to shoot me so he could have felt “in.” Meh. - Vulture
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