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Dude, we literally have the same role. VOTE: mena for not including mason in your initial role claim.In post 27, JJJ wrote:Well, my other half said something extremely sus to me in the hydra chat. So
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I can confirm. He signs his tweets this way. There's no other meaning to it. -Y.In post 36, Menalque wrote:Possibly alisae and chen
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I've decided I want to be X instead.In post 38, JJJ wrote:We've decided to sign our posts separately.
I'll be "Y", and my other head will be "H"
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-YIn post 49, JJJ wrote:I find it shocking that Look At Me I'm So Town wasn't already taken.- JJJ
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How did you already forget who your partner is? (It's emps)In post 55, Menalque wrote:Okay whoever is scum can u just admit it
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How? - YIn post 68, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:
Whoops, hydra slip.In post 67, Billy Pilgrim wrote:In post 63, Alduskkel wrote:
after checking some meta I have concluded that this is NAI cuz AF did it as both town and scumIn post 13, Alduskkel wrote:Also AaronFrost’s first post is making me think of this thread but I dunno if it applies to someone who isn’t a newb
Also I legitimately want to know what was going through Chemist's head when he wrote post 19 and voted someone he just called conftown.
which hydra head posted this and how scummy do you actually consider this to beIn post 47, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:In post 31, Menalque wrote:VOTE: datisi
Let’s lynch the mod guys
Power to the people
Scum and town unite against moderation teams
Hmm.. this isnt normally something you do as town.
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BP wrote it. I thought I indicated that it was just barely over the line. Chemists is worse, but it seemed like it had to be a joke, everything so far is around the null line.
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I'm asking emps to place a real vote?
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This is actually super sus.In post 107, Iconeum wrote:
The entirety of HH's iso is reaking of scum
there's no real RVS - or at least not one with the eye on doing something
even the interaction with it's own slot feels S/S
it reads like it's holding back
i don't like it
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1. What gives you the right to say what is "real RVS" or not? (whatever that means)
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I wrote that. From both people. As in I made the post voting us and theIn post 107, Iconeum wrote: even the interaction with it's own slot feels S/Simmediatefollow up voting mena. So that was me interacting with myself. Besides your statement doesn't even make sense.
3. If you were actually concerned about
then explain how emps empty voting the mod (total lack of RVS "real" or otherwise) and chemist making a joke vote that he never followed up on appear to be just fine with you?In post 107, Iconeum wrote: there's no real RVS - or at least not one with the eye on doing something
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it reads like it's holding back
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This is literally why I asked emps to make a real vote. Even though you didn't know that, I was pushing the slot to do something, which was blatantly obvious, and you pick us out of the bunch for "not doing anything" to paraphrase.In post 106, Iconeum wrote:In post 101, Uncrowned wrote:It's not a random vote, so yeah.
I dislike the lack of commital to an actual vote. Emps jumped on the meme without actually doing anything.
i like this thinking for townIn post 105, Uncrowned wrote:Because scum would rather be non-commital and not get involved in having to come up with BS explanations for their actions. If they're scum, this gives Emps an easy start to the game so they can read and react later on.
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yeah. It's a load of BS. There's no way you genuinely feel that way about our slot over others.In post 118, Iconeum wrote:
no, i'm voting you because i have a feeling that your entire rvs phase so far feels ungenuineIn post 112, JJJ wrote:Like damn. Everyone is in here joking around and multiple people have been less productive than our slot and Iconeum shitpushes us on some terrible/fake logic.
That doesn't sit right with me.
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do you have a problem with that?
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congratulations. A scummy response that added absolutely nothing of value to the conversation. I guess I should have expected as much.In post 116, Iconeum wrote:omgus vote much?
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That's far from a misrep, your responses did not constitute trying to solve, read, our slot, anything like that. To call it an omgus vote is to discreditmewhen your reasons for voting us don't make any sense. At least it doesn't make sense for you to single this slot out for the reasons you've stated and then say nothing about other slots that are guilty of the same traits you claim to see in us.
Funnily enough I was going to answer the question asked to uncrowned regarding emps and our answers are almost identical. But answering that question for him not only makes me unable to form a read on him based on a response, but it also makes both of us look scummier as a result. So I didn't.
As for your 124, he was prompted to give an answer on his thoughts. I wasn't. I prodded emps before Unc even explained his thoughts because I was trying to get the slot to do something that provided readable content rather than be able to coast by and have a completely non-existent/disingenuous RVS. Which is exactly what he's done so far. And coincidentally enough, fits the exact description of why you have a problem with our slot (disingenuous RVS) except our slot has actually been in more discussion other than one useless "vote", even if most of it was goofing around.
So I'm gonna need you to stop being ignorant if you're town. Any maybe try a little harder to make your stances look believable if scum. If not for me, then for your partner's sake.- JJJ
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I have a problem with how little sense it makes. And since I know I'm town why should I allow you to paint me in such a disgusting and untruthful way?In post 129, Iconeum wrote:I think ur extremely defensive for a simple callout tho
If you are town, do you really have a problem with me calling something that I think was scum indicative out?
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YesIn post 140, Iconeum wrote:HH, so far I don't know who you are.
But can you answer me, have I played with either head before?
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The reasoning being bad is precisely why I think it looks like a vanity vote. Weak reasoning, going against the grain as far as how most people are reading you. Awkwardly confident. Feels like a vanity vote.In post 344, Uncrowned wrote:
Mena, I don't really understand. If anything, him gauging the general vibe of the players and then still deciding to vote on me is brave, and something I don't see scum players doing very often. Is the reasoning bad? Yeah, it's pretty weak. But I think Mena would be self-aware enough as scum to know that this is a bad move for him if he is that alignment.In post 335, JJJ wrote:When the game starts shifting out of RVS and chemist votes the mod and contributes nothing.
When mena waits to see everyone's opinions before making what looks like a vanity vote.
When emps is still voting the mod and said pretty much nothing to make his slot more readable or progress the game.
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eh. I kinda like mena's responses to 344 although it's not out of his scum range. I guess it seems like a genuine enough vote.In post 401, JJJ wrote:
The reasoning being bad is precisely why I think it looks like a vanity vote. Weak reasoning, going against the grain as far as how most people are reading you. Awkwardly confident. Feels like a vanity vote.In post 344, Uncrowned wrote:
Mena, I don't really understand. If anything, him gauging the general vibe of the players and then still deciding to vote on me is brave, and something I don't see scum players doing very often. Is the reasoning bad? Yeah, it's pretty weak. But I think Mena would be self-aware enough as scum to know that this is a bad move for him if he is that alignment.In post 335, JJJ wrote:When the game starts shifting out of RVS and chemist votes the mod and contributes nothing.
When mena waits to see everyone's opinions before making what looks like a vanity vote.
When emps is still voting the mod and said pretty much nothing to make his slot more readable or progress the game.
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but this is also weird bc Mena was literally trying to start a mod wagon??In post 354, Menalque wrote:I’m assuming you mean 339
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Idk if I used the term correctly but basically I thought he made the vote for looks without any real intention of it being wagoned/lynched. So yeah, it's scummy in the sense that I thought he was voting in a way that was conscious of his own image rather than to get something done.In post 384, Alduskkel wrote:What's a "vanity vote"? Is it scummy?
But I am less sure of that now.
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I loosely read along in this game while it was going on, where Uncrowned was scum. I felt that his play here resembled his play there. So I read his ISO from that game a few hours ago and I see some differences that actually make me want to TR him. He seems a lot less focused on overly wordy posts about himself like he appeared to there, and seems to be putting more focusing into genuinely solving/forming reads here. I don't necessarily agree with much that he's said here so far, but it seems like it comes from a genuine place.
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Sorry for my inactivity! Word of advice on the new Star Wars: don't see it, the finale actually hurt my eyes so much that I had to go straight home and close my eyes, then I drifted off...In post 406, JJJ wrote:VOTE: chemist
I'm keeping this until he actually starts playing and makes a real vote. Emps is runner up as far as my vote is concerned. Haven't talked to Y in awhile though so this may change when that changes.
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Anyways, I agree with X's vote and reasoning for now. Emps is sus as all hell, but It's always good to make sure to put pressure on lurkers, since they are detrimental to town and it's too easy to hide there as scum - Y- JJJ
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Clogging up the thread with meme votes isn't helpful to town, and can lead to scum reads even for town members that are normally willing to play along. - YIn post 410, Menalque wrote:Starting a mod wagon = meme-y, not trying to get anyone lynched
Pushing people for not being actively pro-town = pushing people who are targetable rather than pushing people who are necessarily scum- JJJ
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day as in phaseIn post 454, Chemist1422 wrote:
May I direct you to today’s dateIn post 453, JJJ wrote:If people are going to keep calling me scummy for trying to get slots that are voting the moderator to actually play the game then I'm not thinking this is gonna be a very productive day.
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in a perfect world more people join me in voting him until he either does something or gets lynched for just voting the moderator and not really contributing to discussion. I'm really not understanding the lack of acknowledgement towards pressure from this player list.In post 456, Alduskkel wrote:Like, explain what scenario you're imagining where your vote on Chemist does something. Because in my experience, voting players who aren't being "productive" doesn't make them produce more content.
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ok so by your logic you are implying that even in a perfect world where a chemist wagon becomes a thing he is just gonna continue to vote the moderator and contribute nothing?In post 458, Alduskkel wrote:Well, this isn't a perfect world. Plus, lynching people for reasons like that isn't really any more likely to hit scum than a random lynch. So I don't see how your Chemist vote is a real attempt at scumhunting.
Therefore you are completely denying that vote/wagon pressure is even a thing and by that same logic implying that chemist will do nothing this game unless he decides he wants to. So how would that be a bad lynch?
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I'm not going to read Micro 900 but also I don't really think you're flipping scum which is why I'm not voting you. I've played enough with the other three to have a decent grasp of their metas.In post 472, Alduskkel wrote:I'm just gonna come out and say that anyone who doesn't read or at least look at Micro 900 isn't doing their due diligence in reading me, Menalque, Iconeum, or emps.
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Scum is totally more likely to lurk than town.In post 458, Alduskkel wrote:Well, this isn't a perfect world. Plus, lynching people for reasons like that isn't really any more likely to hit scum than a random lynch. So I don't see how your Chemist vote is a real attempt at scumhunting.
I agree. Lurking is always inherently sus IMO.In post 463, Uncrowned wrote:I also agree with HH that if Chemist isn't going to be productive, he's somewhat anti-town in the sense that our read accuracy is damaged a bit.
Content from that slot would be very useful rn imo
It's a prodge.In post 481, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:
Yeah, you're hopping in to do this while you're voting the mod. Where are you at, cuz you're coasting at the moment?In post 454, Chemist1422 wrote:
May I direct you to today’s dateIn post 453, JJJ wrote:If people are going to keep calling me scummy for trying to get slots that are voting the moderator to actually play the game then I'm not thinking this is gonna be a very productive day.
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Another post with no content. - YIn post 494, Chemist1422 wrote:
meh I guess this is a towny readIn post 492, Menalque wrote:yeah I'm p sure chem is town
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2 or 3, idrIn post 497, emps wrote:
ooh so like at least 2 games with me? im kinda curious abt who u r lulIn post 473, JJJ wrote:
I'm not going to read Micro 900 but also I don't really think you're flipping scum which is why I'm not voting you. I've played enough with the other three to have a decent grasp of their metas.In post 472, Alduskkel wrote:I'm just gonna come out and say that anyone who doesn't read or at least look at Micro 900 isn't doing their due diligence in reading me, Menalque, Iconeum, or emps.
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2 or 3, idrIn post 497, emps wrote:
ooh so like at least 2 games with me? im kinda curious abt who u r lulIn post 473, JJJ wrote:
I'm not going to read Micro 900 but also I don't really think you're flipping scum which is why I'm not voting you. I've played enough with the other three to have a decent grasp of their metas.In post 472, Alduskkel wrote:I'm just gonna come out and say that anyone who doesn't read or at least look at Micro 900 isn't doing their due diligence in reading me, Menalque, Iconeum, or emps.
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I've been struggling to form an opinion. I don't think it would be the worst lynch right now but I guarantee I will be able to confidently read them with PoE.In post 534, Alduskkel wrote:@HH: Is Iconeum scummier or townier to you now compared to when you unvoted him?- JJJ
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In post 556, JJJ wrote:Deadline is getting close and I'll be V/LA for most of the 31st so if I have to choose between ico and aldu I guess I'd prefer Ico overall.
VOTE: iconeum
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Meant to sign this. -YIn post 557, JJJ wrote:Chemist is participating a little bit more (still not enough to no longer be suspicious, but he's definitely no longer my number 1. He's also stopped with his mod voting.
VOTE: Alduskkel
Since X feels stronger about this, let me UNVOTE: and VOTE: Iconeum again. My bad. -Y- JJJ
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It's probably going to come down to one of the two people currently near lynch for simple logistical reasons though. I doubt we're going to be able to shift enough votes around on December 31st unless maybe we get a pause. I'm not enthusiastic about that.
I will hammer Chemist (or someone else at L-1 if votes shift) tomorrow if it looks like we're about to run out of time, simply because it's mathematically better for town to lynch D1 than to not lynch. - Y- JJJ
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I could see LAMIST scum. It's been a back burner read of mine for the last couple days but it's not getting lynched today so I haven't bothered to bring it up.
Am curious to know why we are null to mena though. Iirc me and AF went from being TL or TR to "eh" without explanation.
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