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Should've checked the PT when I asked if I could out usIn post 18, Menalque wrote:AARON U CANT JUST OUT YOUR SCUMBUDDY LIKE THAT ON PAGE 1 WITHOUT CONSULTING THEM FIRST
ESP WHEN I WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF POCKETING ALDUS- AaronFrost
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It's actually just Hectic but like he's pretending to be two peopleIn post 30, Menalque wrote:Oh, so the hydra is hectic +1- AaronFrost
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If this game started 2 hours and 18 minutes earlier than it did, then 9:12 would've started at 9:12 (well in my time zone at least)- AaronFrost
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I'm fairly certain that was a joke for both the conftown thing and the following voteIn post 63, Alduskkel wrote:Also I legitimately want to know what was going through Chemist's head when he wrote post 19 and voted someone he just called conftown.- AaronFrost
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Why is that suspicious?In post 81, Menalque wrote:you don't think the blank vote for emps was suspicious- AaronFrost
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I was pinged by 13 and then even more by 63. I have no idea what he's getting at with bringing up the NewbScum greeting tell thing when I'm not new by any stretch?In post 91, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:Where are the scum vibes coming from?
Also don't like how he's legitimately scumreads Chemist over his 19.- AaronFrost
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I mean Menalque did the same thing. No comment on that?In post 101, Uncrowned wrote:It's not a random vote, so yeah.
I dislike the lack of commital to an actual vote. Emps jumped on the meme without actually doing anything.- AaronFrost
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Same thing could be said about all the people who have joke voted the mod honestlyIn post 118, Iconeum wrote:no, i'm voting you because i have a feeling that your entire rvs phase so far feels ungenuine- AaronFrost
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Basically it felt like you were trying a little 'too' hard to do things early on. Like the thing with the meta dive on my intro post, what exactly was that supposed to accomplish? It's like pseudo-scumhunting and doesn't actually accomplish anything wrt sorting my slot.In post 145, Alduskkel wrote:I mean you're saying WHAT you're scum reading but I'm not seeing any WHY here. Elaborate?- AaronFrost
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Gambler's fallacy dude. Don't fall into that trap
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Don't like this in light of the discussion that's happened on the previous pages
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There was plenty of game discussion happening with Icon/HH and Icon/Aldus and you continue to joke vote the mod because... why?- AaronFrost
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That's a different situation from right now, early in Day 1, where most players' reads are probably wrongIn post 185, Alduskkel wrote:also in Micro 900 when scum!you was pressed on Day 3 to explain yourself you kinda flubbed it hard and this is reminding me of that a bit- AaronFrost
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+1In post 190, Iconeum wrote:i want to state, for the record, that i don't think i'm currently flubbing
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A little, yes because I think you're trying to distract from any conversation that is happening at the moment.
Like I get that if you're good friends with the mod and you want to joke around 'lynching them to overthrow them' during early game then that's fine, but you continuing to do it once we were out of RVS was a little sketchy imo.- AaronFrost
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It's a way to look like you're contributing without actually taking a stance on anything.
I'm not sure that scum!you chooses to do that, but I'm also not sure why town!you chooses to do it either. Either way, it isn't very helpful when trying to sort your slot.
PEDIT: Whether or not we were in RVS isn't the point and maybe I should've phrased that differently. The point is, people were posting AI content and discussion was happening, and Mena continued with the meme.- AaronFrost
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Almost. I'm on like page 10. I was reading from like page 4 since that's where I left off when I last checked the game.- AaronFrost
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I'm content with my Aldus vote for now. I think Icon comes off as having a pretty townie/solvey mindset while Aldus got weirdly and needlessly defensive of HH.In post 233, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:@Aaron- forgot you were in the game. You're on this wagon, what do you make of the past 5 pages of interactions.- AaronFrost
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Because it's not contributing useful content and isn't helping me sort you.In post 298, Menalque wrote:How does it look like I’m contributing at all? I think voting the mod is quite clearly a sign that I was memeing rather than contributing and idk why you think that a vote for the mod is an attempt to look like I’m contributing- AaronFrost
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Weird sentiment coming from someone who joined in on the meme but alrightIn post 241, emps wrote:wooo gamblers fallacy please tr me
pedit: like the whole "voting mod is an easy way to rvs without like actially really "comitting" to anything"
and also kind of adding on to it, its kinda easier because u already voted mod (which, on its own, is kinda awkward to do)
idk why im like scumcasing myself now but like whatever lul- AaronFrost
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How do I got from being townread to suddenly being in your scumpool?
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That's more of what I meant when I said you weren't contributing is that you weren't contributing 'useful' content.In post 303, Menalque wrote:
Right but a moment ago you said that it was bad because it was trying to look like I was contributing while notIn post 300, AaronFrost wrote:
Because it's not contributing useful content and isn't helping me sort you.In post 298, Menalque wrote:How does it look like I’m contributing at all? I think voting the mod is quite clearly a sign that I was memeing rather than contributing and idk why you think that a vote for the mod is an attempt to look like I’m contributing
My question is how you’re interpreting a meme vote as trying tolook likecontribution of content at all
It was the timing of it. Like serious discussion is happening and you continued to meme, which is technically contributing content, but it's content that isn't useful and you don't take much stance on any current discussions.- AaronFrost
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I mean that would've at least been taking some kind of a stance, albeit a pretty weak one. That's content that'll help me sort you.In post 308, Menalque wrote:Like if I wanted tolook likeI was contributing then I could have just said something along the lines of “ahh, I don’t think X’s push here feels genuine” or “I think this is prob TvT”
So in what sense is me intentionally not producing meaningful content there an attempt to look like I am?
I've literally explained this already, you're posting a lot, which is contriubuting, but the content you've generated isn't useful.
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Huh wild. I though Uncrowned was mildly townie for the most part.
Only post from them I didn't like was 203. He seems a little too confident in his emps read but then again Mena is apparently super confident in his Uncrowned read so I'm not sure that's AI.- AaronFrost
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I lowkey forgot Chemist was in this game but I also don't like his mod vote.In post 335, JJJ wrote:When the game starts shifting out of RVS and chemist votes the mod and contributes nothing.- AaronFrost
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Thinking that a post or series of posts is NAI is a stance, so I'm honestly not sure what Mena's getting at there.In post 340, Uncrowned wrote:Correction: Why would I take a hard stance on something I THINK* is NAI, whoops.- AaronFrost
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Apparently I count as two people nowIn post 347, Menalque wrote:you manage to talk about me,aaron, emps,AF, and HH in those couple of posts while largely trying to shrug off the SR on you- AaronFrost
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Why do you think I'm town then?In post 354, Menalque wrote:In which case you haven’t because pushing meme-y non-commitsl content is one of te number 1 things that scum do- AaronFrost
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This is pretty much how I felt after the Icon/HH interactions, although I had a much stronger tr on Icon (still do) and HH's initial reactions pinged me a bit but nothing to strong on him. I'll likely revisit that at some point.In post 368, Uncrowned wrote:The interaction, from what I had seen, was mostly over. The time to analyze it from the rest of the players had come. That was my take on it. If you don't like it, that's fine. But I legitimately just didn't see much from it. Like I just said above, at best it's a slight +town for Ico, and it left me still hard null on HH.- AaronFrost
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But it didn't really help move us out of RVS? And no one else commented on it or took a stance on it. So it didn't actually accomplish anything.In post 383, Alduskkel wrote:I mean I went to the effort of browsing through all those games so even if it wasn't AI then I still wanted to show something for my effort lol.
And if it seemed like I was trying too hard it's because I think that helps move things past the RVS. Like, if I see something even a tiny bit scummy at that stage then I want to make it into a Thing so that people start having to take stances and stuff.
Pretty sure most people here could've told you that I'm not a new player by any means and that it was NAI.- AaronFrost
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AFF is a fucking asshole. Fuck that guy.In post 394, Uncrowned wrote:Aaron's a pretty cool dude.
That AF guy though? Eh, not sure about him.- AaronFrost
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I need to revisit the Icon/HH thing but from what I remember it came off as genuinely trying to sort as opposed to pushing an agenda.In post 384, Alduskkel wrote:I want to hear from both Aaron and Menalque why they think Iconeum is town.- AaronFrost
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@Dats: I'll have limited access until 12/26. Should be around, just not sure how often.
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Eh it doesn't really read that way to me. I think Mena genuinely wants Uncrowned lynched here. If he was conscious of his own image he's probably hop on AldusIn post 404, JJJ wrote:
Idk if I used the term correctly but basically I thought he made the vote for looks without any real intention of it being wagoned/lynched. So yeah, it's scummy in the sense that I thought he was voting in a way that was conscious of his own image rather than to get something done.In post 384, Alduskkel wrote:What's a "vanity vote"? Is it scummy?
But I am less sure of that now.
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Why do you think votes on players that haven't been active/useful are lazy? Wouldn't that be a good way to make them contribute?In post 452, Alduskkel wrote:Why do I have to townread you to see HH's vote on you as lazy?
For the record, you're squarely at "null" for me right now.- AaronFrost
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I was loosely following that game while it was ongoing but I'll take a second look at it at some point.In post 472, Alduskkel wrote:I'm just gonna come out and say that anyone who doesn't read or at least look at Micro 900 isn't doing their due diligence in reading me, Menalque, Iconeum, or emps.- AaronFrost
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My initial worry was that scum might follow me onto the wagon, but I'm tring everyone who voted Aldus after me rn.In post 462, Uncrowned wrote:After rereading, I'm kind of concerned about this wagon on Aldus- AaronFrost
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The timing of this reaction test is a little weird though
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What do you mean by 'no content'? I feel like you're using that phrase a lot to just shade people.In post 495, JJJ wrote:
Another post with no content. - YIn post 494, Chemist1422 wrote:
meh I guess this is a towny readIn post 492, Menalque wrote:yeah I'm p sure chem is town
in my experience when I call scum out for a specific behavior they tend to stop doing that thing instead of doubling down- AaronFrost
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I'm not saying we have to lynch the lurkers, but wagoning them helps them produce AI content, then it's worth it imo.In post 503, Alduskkel wrote:I was once a player who liked voting lurkers. It didn't help me catch scum.
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I'll be honest, my vote is still on Aldus because I'm honestly not sure where else to put it right now. I've been feeling a little better about his recent posting.In post 502, Uncrowned wrote:Also now I don't feel like an Aldus lynch would be good. Feels like we've lingered around this long enough, the lack of real opposition towards it leads me to believe that scum would be okay with this lynch. Aldus hasn't been particularly scummy imo.
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Hey Icon now that you're back can you answer this for me- AaronFrost
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My tr on him has diminished, but I'm not sure if it's because he's been V/LA or not and I'd rather not use that to determine alignment. Now that he's back I'd like an answer to my question as well as an explanation for the L-1 thing.In post 534, Alduskkel wrote:@Aaron and Chemist: Are you still townreading Icon? If so, how do you explain the fake L-1 and claim request?- AaronFrost
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Fixed to use the right pronouns. Sorry.In post 539, AaronFrost wrote:
My tr on it has diminished, but I'm not sure if it's because it's been V/LA or not and I'd rather not use that to determine alignment. Now that it's back I'd like an answer to my question as well as an explanation for the L-1 thing.In post 534, Alduskkel wrote:@Aaron and Chemist: Are you still townreading Icon? If so, how do you explain the fake L-1 and claim request?- AaronFrost
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You should stop taking shrooms then. I hear they can alter your perception of realityIn post 548, JJJ wrote:I just had a hallucinogenic vision that revealed to me that Aaron frost is evil
But I dont know if that's a good enough reason to vote him
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I'm just waiting for Icon to answer the questions directed towards it. I forgot about it's weekend V/LA though.- AaronFrost
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Chemist isn't actually at L-1 with that vote bc HH unvoted. I can put him there though.
VOTE: Chemist
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I don't want Aldus lynched anymore. He's moved up to null town territory for me.- AaronFrost
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Why does scum!Icon make the same move two games in a row with similar playerlists?In post 583, Menalque wrote:Like I’m frustrated that he’s defending icon who *checks notes* made exactly the same move he did in his incredibly recent scum game, won’t get any traction as a wagon, hasn’t been townposting like uncrowned did after I voted him, and disappeared after brushing off making the exact same move he did as his incredibly recent scumgame- AaronFrost
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This is why I'm reluctant to lynch Icon because it hasn't been here and might be replaced unless it comes back. Like I'm not really townreading it anymore but I don't like lynching inactive slots either.In post 586, Menalque wrote:Icon is p likely scum but also not here and therefore potentially a bad lynch- AaronFrost
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