In post 17, Hopkirk wrote:i heard norway melts like a chocolate santa in a tanning bed when he's scum
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In post 17, Hopkirk wrote:i heard norway melts like a chocolate santa in a tanning bed when he's scum
ur scumIn post 22, NorwegianboyEE wrote:But whatever i think we should eliminate in the 6P hood. Because then we can win in day 1 just like the last time Divide and Conquered was hosted.
wdym from this? like from last game?In post 26, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Marcistar already do be feeling kinda different.
idk broIn post 28, NorwegianboyEE wrote:What else would it mean?
thats true, thats my og thought about this as well.In post 34, Not_Mafia wrote:Scum in the 3p hood would certainly want thisIn post 32, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Nah, eliminating 6p hood gang 4 lyfe baby.In post 29, Not_Mafia wrote:Eliminating down the 3p hood gives us at worst 3p ELo in the other group.. I'd sooner take that than the 1/6 chance for instawin. Unless someone starts jumping up and down and outs themselves as scum.
In post 42, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Real talk, i would never agree to put myself in the same hood as N_M because i hate him.
i remember promising this, but like
ah ah actually? im so bad with jokes LOLIn post 51, Lukewarm wrote:This was a joke![]()
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Before we signed up together for this game, in the post game chat of the last game, I said "As long as you promise to be on my team next time, and not try to trick me like in this game"
In post 147, Vanderscamp wrote:I also think n_m is the scummiest person in the small pool so far for a pretty similar reason, I'm pretty sure he's posted more times so far this game than in the entire game we just played together, and if I thought he was tabled from contention today I would be very far from kind of glad about it.
do u have any fresh takesIn post 150, Vanderscamp wrote:I have lukewarm leaning scum and Norwegian leaning town.
i think luke and guiltylions is towniesIn post 179, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Oh and Marcistar. Can you make your current reads known?
i agreeIn post 191, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: Marcistar
This feels the most likely to be scum cumulatively when looking at both worlds.
why am i "not really townie"? wheres ur juicy tea on me i wanna fightIn post 194, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You're not really townie, you could be alligned with N_M and you could be alligned with Bingle.
Ergo you have the highest % of flipping scum.
what if i promise im townIn post 196, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The fight is proving you’re townier than the rest of the slots.
oh smhsmh u shouldve just said that.In post 198, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Oh and "not really townie" is a fancy shorthand way of saying that literally nothing you’ve said is something i think you couldn’t say as scum.
trying to solve.In post 202, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Can you explain to me in detail what your current ambitions are?
Are you trying to solve the game or just mess around?
am i meant to explain why im most likely scum..? bro idk how to do thatIn post 229, Vanderscamp wrote:Why do you agree?In post 193, marcistar wrote:i agreeIn post 191, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: Marcistar
This feels the most likely to be scum cumulatively when looking at both worlds.![]()
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explain please.. what makes me most likely
So i'm the scummiest person here? aww damn hurts hard broIn post 224, Vanderscamp wrote:I don't mind killing into the big pool first if the scummiest person in the game is there but I will advocate very strongly for not avoiding killing into the small pool today just because it is the small pool.
nah i dont mind being sused, where i usually play im always sus no matter what i do so i just vibe with itIn post 240, Lukewarm wrote:Marci the people in this lobby seem to take everything people say seriously. Not allowed to joke about being scummy in here![]()
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Yes, I'll answerIn post 239, Vanderscamp wrote:I'd like a little more detail about why you think that's the case.
tbh he seems serious, so i just looked at myself from a tiny bit of a different pov i guess.In post 241, GuiltyLion wrote:wait, I missed this first go around, did you actually take 191 as a serious comment? Like are you saying you genuinely believe marcistar 'agrees' she's the most likely to be scum, moment before asking Norwee what he meant?
im not serious, but im pretty sure ur serious so im carrying thru with susing myself ig.In post 243, Vanderscamp wrote:I wasn't sure, the answer I got makes me think it was more likely serious but still not sure.
i just like, guessed what yall would be seeing.. it isnt my intent to be playing in that way rn, but it is what is is yknow? im not gonna fake pushes or anything im just waiting for something that seens scummy to come upIn post 244, Vanderscamp wrote:I'm guessing this is partially serious and partially a joke?
I'd be pretty interested to know how you would read yourself in this spot.
my serious reply was asking you what made you feel like i was scum, i was gonna reply seriously to whatever you said but like "this is something scum marci could be doing" idk how to really reply to that ahah.In post 247, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I just think it’s an fairly unserious reply to my scumread, like they’re trying to laugh it off or make it seem like it’s not a big deal. I don’t think their response has been townie but just really Lamist. "Haha yes i’m so scummy! Not scum though!"
Which is something i know scum!Marcistar is likely to do from what i’ve seen in the newbie.
i think im just not on the same wavelength as yall tbhIn post 249, Vanderscamp wrote:I think Marci's response has been pretty awkward, regardless of whether or not it was a joke.
can u explain how? ahahIn post 250, Not_Mafia wrote:This definitely seems like scum Marci from the newbie game
why? (:In post 289, Hopkirk wrote:strongest TR
I'm sorry bestie did i force u?In post 317, Lukewarm wrote:And to be honest with you, 100% of the only reason I signed up for this game was to play with Marci so she would be more comfortable leaving the newbie queue. We even talked about that before we signed up. Of course I am then going to be friendly with her once we get here.
Here is a link to the post-game conversation about it after our last game together, if you want to see how we were talking to one another immediately before the start of this game to compare.
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I don't mind it, I see the reasons.In post 339, Lukewarm wrote:Okay, if we are all going to start town reading Marci, can we talk about how weird it is that Norwee would push her here?
Like he has the added benefit of having seen her play, so there is no "she uses emojis, so I can't trust her" - which is 100% something people have scumread her for lol
I don't like not_mafia ^.^ hes following with the general vibe too much/easily.In post 354, Not_Mafia wrote:Yeah I’ve come round on Marci town, her tentativeness here reminded me of scum her, but I think it’s more because it’s her first non-newbie game
TBH, you're so focused on it that its starting to seem like anIn post 358, Lukewarm wrote:As a self diagnosis, the only thing I can think of is the buddying with Marci, but think that that has been pretty well explained - she is the reason I am in this game lol.
idk, is this playing? It just seems like hes going with the popular opinionIn post 369, NorwegianboyEE wrote:N_M actually deciding to play is something i like about N_M.
I think generally speaking it's not scum indicative for him.
I agree that not_mafia feels weird, but not exactly for the reasoning of him mentioning im weird based on my past behavior? Not_mafia and I have played a few games together where i've been town in those, so I felt like those comments are justified.. so that specifically wasn't what felt off about him.In post 421, Lukewarm wrote:Not_Mafia seems way different then he has in any other game I have played in with him + post 250 makes no sense imo. You feel completely different this game then you did in the last.
Can you please bring examples of this? When I was reading through him earlier, it didn't really feel like this to me.In post 421, Lukewarm wrote:Norwee on the other hand, it feels like maybe he tried to pocket me? Like go through his iso and search for every time he mentions me. Its agree with me, thank me, town read me, town read me harder, defend me from other people. Then I pointed out he did something suspicious, and suddenly I am his number 1 vote.
So its more like a process of elimination? I don't think it's good for that to be the reason why you trust someone... because like he could always be playing you like a violin.In post 421, Lukewarm wrote:I honestly don't know which of them is the scum, but if I suspect both of them, then I guess that means Bingle is probably town?
TBH, im getting more confused on you lukeIn post 432, Lukewarm wrote:So if you are claiming that I approached that game with more effort / reads / content, then you are lying. You're argument was made in bad faith. I think that it is CLEAR that I am doing more to work towards a win this game, then I was in that game.
imma do this but if its that weird trick that closes the browser im unfriendingIn post 437, Lukewarm wrote:Easiest way to see it would be to, control+f, looked for every time he said "luke". I did this at first to try and follow why he went from townreading me to listing me as his top scum read, and it stood out.
it doesnt really stand out imo
Whos this for..? everyone..?In post 451, Bingle wrote:You have no idea how hard it was for me not to take that pagetop.
Reminder, the last page has a bunch of game relevant content that you should read.
do people here not read back? thats so sadIn post 453, Bingle wrote:I mean...'you' is Cakez, mostly.
The reminder is for everyone, because I don't want the content from the last page buried and forgotten.
smhsmh does everyone use mafiascum darkmode
thats stinky, they could be missing valuable stuffIn post 457, Bingle wrote:A lot of people don't, especially with 1v1s. Particularly with more active games, but choking a thread to bury things that are inconvenient to your narrative is a pretty effective scum strategy.
is this the only point you have on him?In post 469, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm mulling over this comment on reread... I feel it's less likely town would forget who is in which pool and which interactions can or can't be S/S. I've had my fair share of poorly thought out comments/takes this game, but certainly the entire game I've beenIn post 331, Vanderscamp wrote:I feel like it's pretty likely that if lukewarm joined this game to encourage Marci to step out of the newbie queue (which I have no reason at all to doubt) then he's probably going to be buddying up with her as any combination of alignments.Was going to say it didn't feel like a S/S interaction from them before I remembered that isn't possible anyway.constantlypaying attention to interactions cross-pool and keeping in mind potential scum candidates of each pool. I'm skeptical town!Vanders wouldn't really be aware that Marci/Luke can't be scum together 300+ posts into the game.
VOTE: Vanderscamp
i don't really see it, i probably missed it but where is your last read on norwegianboyee?In post 473, Bingle wrote:I'm pretty sure it's just Hopkirk/Norwee at this point, tbh, and I don't see my vote moving.
So why didn't you bring it up before..? Why did you wait until a vanderscamp wagon started? It does seem weird how norwegianboyee wanted content but wouldn't make it, but at the same time, the timing of you putting this read out is weird.. how recent is the read, just after his complaining about content thingy..?In post 476, Bingle wrote:The read on Norwee is recent. I've been solidly pushing Hopkirk for a while now and the only real content Norwee has had has been to shade that push (and literally everyone willing to give it the time of day) and jump on every possible cw.
But Norwee jumps on to GL's wagon without engaging with my push because "WE NEED CONTENT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE IT BECAUSE READS!"
In post 477, Bingle wrote:I'll hammer Scamp if he hits E-1 on the premise we turbolim Hop then Norwee after.
I don't think eliming someone just so we can elim other people is a good ideaIn post 527, Bingle wrote:If I have to lim you to get norwee/hopkirk, so be it.
that's true, but most of those votes hes done don't really feel like scummy votes imo.In post 505, Lukewarm wrote:Norwee seems really on board for almost any wagon in the 6p hood
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what reasons do you have for the dunnstral townread?In post 527, Bingle wrote:I’m townreading all of Dunn/Marci/GL/Luke. People are aggressively ignoring how obvscum norwee and hopkirk are.
is he the best vote for today? i think i dont mind voting him but if hes scum im unsure who his partner would be.In post 554, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Bingle hasn't posted anything in hood or had a progression that makes sense for why he's so eternally convinced me and Hopkirk are scum either.
This is not an townie progression on slots, he's not trying to see a possible town motivation for either of us, just point out and make up what suits his scum narrative.
No, i think its hopkirk town with a possibility of bingle being scum, tho im not 100% sure.In post 616, Lukewarm wrote:So to each of you, do you think Hopkirk and Bingle are TvT?
Do you think someone else would be a better Day 1 elim?
What makes you think they are scummier then hopkirk/Bingle?
If you are wrong, and it is a minelim, do you think it would give us more information then a flip on Hop or Bingle, and if so why?
In post 630, Lukewarm wrote:Who is your top scum read amongst everyone in the thread, regardless of their neighborhood?
huh, would it be fine to?In post 632, Not_Mafia wrote:marci vote Bingle with us
okay VOTE: bingleIn post 634, Lukewarm wrote:I say go for it. I don't really forsee anyone other then hopkirk or Bingle going though at this point, so if that is your scum read between the two of them
I don't think i agreed?In post 674, Lukewarm wrote:Bingle suggested trading Vanderscamp for a hopkirk vote. and you and marci both seemed okay with that. That trade seemed like it would have been way less productive. first, I think that there was a lesser chance for it to get a scum flip. Secondly, I feel like we would have entered day 2 with multiple people crying "but Bingle is scum" and we would not have actually gotten any closer to winning.
tbh, im not sure. not_mafia is too hard to readIn post 688, Hopkirk wrote:how does Vanderscamp/notmafia sound to you Marci?
i was thinking vanderscamp but now im getting so so confusedIn post 724, Lukewarm wrote:Marci, what are you thinking rn?
where do u think he gave an awkward townread on dunnstral? im confused because i dont see the awkwardIn post 734, GuiltyLion wrote:- Dunn is maybe in range of scumplay, but I think Bingle gave a real awkward townread on him early and I also stand by my thought that Dunn would have manipulated the game better on a D1 Bingle scumflip. He feels too detached and agenda-less to be trying to win a scumgame.
i dont rlly think ur sus cuz i think ur trying to actually help with only good intentions in ur mindIn post 736, GuiltyLion wrote:I get why I might be suspicious or a POE scum candidate from a neutral view of the game,
In post 736, GuiltyLion wrote:It's also important to note that Bingle didn't push on Vander in any substantive way other than threatening to hammer him if he got to E-1.
are u usually quick on votes lukewarm?In post 787, Lukewarm wrote:Maybe I am being quick on my vote, but like, we are in a 1:7 situation. We have a lot of leeway here.
not rlly anything new yet, but i dont want us to rush too quick.In post 789, Lukewarm wrote:Do you have a case against someone you are more suspicious of? Because I would love to see it.
why are u so obsessed with him?In post 823, Lukewarm wrote:Oh, Not_Mafia, our dear mod confirmed townie, why hast thou forsaken us?
Please return to the thread and offer us your guidance. Do so, and I swear I shall never again scum read you for being active in a game.
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im not really sure if dunnstrals scum but i want him to come carry or else ill keep worrying about himIn post 845, GuiltyLion wrote:but this is just super lazy play if he is scum here. Do you all think he really just says he's "unsure" about Bingle (in my convo with him in the hood) and nothing more if he's buddies?
I do think in a vacuum, Dunn or Hopkirk would be most likely 6p scum with Bingle 3p scum by pool-spec, and I still think Hopkirk is locktown. But that's about the best point I would have for scum!Dunn, and I'm always gonna be more paranoid about the players that seem like they're explicitly trying to stay alive
am iactually wishy washy-In post 873, Dunnstral wrote:IMO the wishy-washyness I'm seeing from Marci right now feels like scum
VOTE: marcistar
fair enoughIn post 875, Dunnstral wrote:Your last post
well this is prob trueIn post 868, Vanderscamp wrote:I think I would kill Marci before Luke now btw
I don't get any sense of her putting any effort into analysis
not_mafias reads on me are 100% serious and valid since hes seen me both as scum and as townIn post 883, GuiltyLion wrote:I do weigh N_M's vote seriously
check my other town games, i just dont have motivation when im sused because its not funIn post 887, Lukewarm wrote:I still stand by day 1 Marci feeling real different from Day 1 Marci in the other game, but this does feel a bit like Marci after she lost her partner...
I really don't like that every single town and every single scum read she has wavered on.
And she does not appear to be solving. It kind of feels like she was not putting in the effort today because she wanted to slide through on all of the town reads she got day 1.
when he was complaining about how nobody was talking about you, when he wasIn post 894, Vanderscamp wrote:Can you talk more about what parts of GL's reasoning you like?
i think it'll be good as well,In post 896, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm starting to feel pretty good about a Marci elim.
In post 899, Lukewarm wrote:My issue, is that you have been giving this vibe since the very start of Day 2, but you were not being sussed until like the last 24 hours![]()
i just assumed that the way luke was about bingle was weird in a wayIn post 901, GuiltyLion wrote:If she's town, that's pretty insightful analysis prior to any flips when she wouldn't be certain of either Bingle/Lukewarm's alignment.
wait im dumbIn post 901, GuiltyLion wrote:I also don't see any indications of why she was suspecting Bingle in the first place, it couldn't be due to any direct questioning and she hadn't shared any reasons given the point above ^.
1.) the vibes were just thereIn post 901, GuiltyLion wrote:it's clear she was already prepared to vote there:while still giving herself an out.In post 574, marcistar wrote: is he the best vote for today? i think i dont mind voting him but if hes scum im unsure who his partner would be.
awfully bold of u to assume ill backread that far when im just in the moment asking whatever comes to my mind based on recent postsIn post 901, GuiltyLion wrote:had already been covered via Vanders' multiple posts about it, it was a pretty specific reason that Vander had given for voting Bingle, so with hindsight/more care paid to this question I find it odd she hadn't looked in Bingle's ISO to see if he had explained it already herself. Or that she hadn't paid attention to Vander calling it out.
i did have hesitance in voting bingle, but if i truly wanted to stay off of him i couldve just easily made up something about forgetting to switch off of the vote i had at that point.In post 901, GuiltyLion wrote:Still hesitant to actually vote Bingle, and still trying to shift towards voting elsewhere. She then caves and votes him 3 hours later, again not inherently scum-indicative in and of itself but I can also imagine this as an attempt at distancing given the Bingle elim was likely going through by this point.
it is survivalistIn post 909, GuiltyLion wrote:I think marci's pivot from "my elimination will be good for the game" to arguing with me about voting her is survivalist
i dont think my reads are anything special everIn post 916, Not_Mafia wrote:Who do you think could be scum, you have good reads so please share if you're town
In post 896, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm tired and don't have time to lay out the explanation of things in marci's ISO I didn't like on reread but I can post that tomorrow.
(this follow through, a bit weird for one.)In post 901, GuiltyLion wrote:meh I just went through marci's ISO again and I feel like it's not really fundamentally scummy other than
(bit over the place)In post 901, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm having a hard time truly finding this scummy because my attitude towards EOD1 was much the same, which is also kinda why I had her just shelved as a townread. But it's not inherently townie either because whoever is scum with Bingle would want to start disassociating by this point, so I think it's mistake to rule out potential buddy behavior on that front.
didn't originally think about the brackets there, but as i read it a few more times it feels relevantish. these posts, just like... the wording and aura of not really being confident. such an easy thing to use if your defense once theres a townie flip if everyone looks at you next. easily, he could be just trying to get the most miselims as possible, while not being quite too obvious is what im thinking from those posts.In post 904, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm in no way against hammering her here,
im not gonna vote something im not confident in
where i play usually with meuh, people hate on anyone for pushing someone based on their online status / if they've posted recently. there could be many reasons on why hes doing it, not always scummy intentions.In post 955, Lukewarm wrote: He has been consistently and repeatedly telling us that he is going to to get back to us at a later date, and then we have all been waiting on him.
And again, he has been much more active on site... just not this game
(thinking emoji here)In post 969, Lukewarm wrote:I think that this post was designed to ensure that his push on Hopkirk never went through
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