Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[Almost50]

Kthx's pov is clear.

A50 full claim.

I'm sorry but this would defy my whole gambit. I'll only tell you I DO NOT TARGET anyone. He asked if I took an action, and I said YES, because I did. He didn't ask if I targeted anyone with that action.

And my flavour is Liar X. Agerate (I know, I know. Dino's gonna pick up on "Liar", call me a liar and lynch me!)

[the worst]

Okay I'm prepared to accept this shark jump could've come from town (pending mod comment)

pedit: night kill counts as an action surely?

[Not_Mafia]

Okay I'm prepared to accept this shark jump could've come from town (pending mod comment)

pedit: night kill counts as an action surely?

This isn't road to rome

[Kthxbye]

Read follower, doesn't say muy target had to target in order for me to get result of your role. Try again

[the worst]

Okay I'm prepared to accept this shark jump could've come from town (pending mod comment)

pedit: night kill counts as an action surely?

This isn't road to rome

Doesn't mean people aren't allowed to be wrong.
I'm blonde irl it's a daily struggle

[Mathdino]

Math Buj and A50

How likely do you think Acryon is to be town here?

Not super likely. Feels weird to say this but I'm kinda sheeping Not_Mafia on this. If N_M is scum, he's not scum with acryon.

And yeah I'm pretty sure nightkills count as an action.

But implying that Kthx is lying because he doesn't know how his role works is a terrible play that recently lost me a game.

[Mathdino]

And my flavour is Liar X. Agerate (I know, I know. Dino's gonna pick up on "Liar", call me a liar and lynch me!)

that would be a not_mafia move

scum were given safeclaims tho

[the worst]

@Mod: What result would a hypothetical Follower receive in the following situations:

A. The Follower is successfully roleblocked.
B. The target does nothing.
C. The target uses, for example, a rolecop ability and also makes a factional kill.
D. The target solely uses a rolecop ability.
E. The target solely makes a factional kill.
F. The target is a ninja and makes a factional kill.

@TW: I don't think anyone's a Lyncher here.

@mod sorrryyyyyy
G. The target used an ability which doesn't target another player

[acryon]

@acryon: don't be a mastina and cheer me on lol

hey can you talk to me about your not_mafia meta that you apparently stalked

like you knew enough to go find not_mafia's games with me in them

what was it about winter wonderland that struck you as not_mafia scrambling to effortpost and make good arguments at the 11th hour?

compare to stack the deck on D3

I didn't actually know anything about his meta. I literally took 2 minutes and searched through his basic post history until I found a game that was clearly finished. Just so happened that you were in it.

Also I would not categorize Winter Wonderland as that, although I didn't look at it in great detail. My point was against you saying "paragraph-posting", because that does not at all describe his play in any of the games I looked at. And regarding StD day 3, it still doesn't

really

feel that different to me. Certainly not even close to different enough to build a read based on it.

@acryon before the claim I was scumreading A50 harder than kthx. Kthx was null or a townlean by PoE. You yourself quoted my readlist didn't you? You knew this.

So yeah I am biased so objectively is more fair it allows me to artificially remove confirmation bias. Because you can all correct me if my objective reasoning is wrong.

A readslist doesn't really tell me how you feel about a player, which is why I asked the further comment.

I didn't want to just ask A50 and tip him off that I targeted him. If you look back, I asked EVERYONE to say if they did an action lady night for that reason

You did, but you asked him and I specifically.

[the worst]

I think A50's paranoia was x agerated l0l0l

I'm at work early so will semi lurk for now

[Almost50]

I said IF he took an action as he says, it was the NK. My PR says he didn't use an ability last night so what else is there he could have done as town last night that doesnt make him lying scum?

Your ability tells you I didn't use an ACTION on someone, and I didn't! It doesn't tell you I didn't submit "an action PM" to the mod.

Let me give you an example off the top of my head: If I was a Town REPORTER (Variant #3), I would be PMing the MOD some flavour to post on the next day. Would your ability return "Your Target PM'd Gamma Emerald" ?????

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin:

Wait, hold up.
Kthxbye, you are aware that a NK counts as a power role action, right?
I'm guessing you are tracker/watcher, and saw A50 do nothing, yes? That picks up the nightkill as well, that's what makes those investigative roles.
So by your logic, he performed no action, but performed an action?

[Mathdino]

yes, and i'm a blocker, brafin

please read

[acryon]

Brafin:

Wait, hold up.
Kthxbye, you are aware that a NK counts as a power role action, right?
I'm guessing you are tracker/watcher, and saw A50 do nothing, yes? That picks up the nightkill as well, that's what makes those investigative roles.
So by your logic, he performed no action, but performed an action?

Yeah, this is what makes no sense. He either thinks that A50 is a Ninja that

forgot he is a Ninja

OR that he lied when there is no reason to.

[the worst]

Or he misunderstood his role/result

[the worst]

Friendly reminder this is not a gladiate

[the worst]

Wait for Gamma

[Mathdino]

i'm pretty sure kthx just thinks that he can't detect factional abilities

do you guys seriously think scum botches roleclaims this badly

my role PM didn't actually describe my ability, it just told me what my role was

it is entirely understandable that someone has confusion over their role

if anything this at least proves that kthx is definitively a follower

he's either town follower or scum follower, but his role is accurate

[acryon]

Or he misunderstood his role/result

Yes that's a possibility as well.

[Almost50]

I mean yes he could be lying. But his explanation has no inconsistency. He got no result. A50 claims he did something. Therefore he must be lying.

Again, "No Result" is not the same as "Didn't See anything" or "Didn't Take An Action".

If I was Ascetic he would get "No Result". If I stayed put he would get "Didn't Go Anywhere" or "Didn't Take An Action" or "You Saw Nothing". Same if he got RB'd

[Mathdino]

For the record, some mods (Aeronaut) give trackers "No result" for both roleblocked and "target went nowhere".

[the worst]

I think I'm gonna target acryon tonight

[Mathdino]

I'll protect you as long as mastina's doc goes on Kthx.

Kthx should obviously not out his target at all.

[Not_Mafia]

You can't protect someone who's been lynched

[Almost50]

A50 is doomed today or tomorrow. He's not going to post anymore as you not give town more posts to examine

You don't know me at all!! Neither Scum!Me (as you've been implying at this point) nor Town!Me (regardless of your own thought or even alignment) would go down that easy. I'll fight back as Town/Mafia/SK/WW/Alien (and surprisingly I would probably do it as a JESTER too).