Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Chara]

Shaziro: that's an Almost tell. sort of a towntell but something he could do as scum, no problem, provided he came up with the claim in advance. Almost does all sorts of things with his crumbs and it's almost always some sort of harebrained scheme.
where exactly did i mirror your thoughts? Varsoon did bring up scumteam coordination, that's where i got the idea about the kills.

[Chara]

@Chara: OK...

UNVOTE:

Who do you think I should vote? (Hint: Not you, Nero, Dunker or ran)

how much are you townreading me?

first, tell me why not Dunker. i don't have any good scumreads yet. :>

[Varsoon]

the point of a wagon is to lynch or create pressure. yes i want to put momentum towards it so something can HAPPEN in this game and generate more info/reads

besides

>joins me on wagon
>makes a CASE for the wagon
>shits on the guy who started it

lol @ this guy

Hahaha, please don't try to greentext here, it's unbecoming.
Oh, didn't realize you were voting there before me, thought you put a vote down and did the whole choo choo thing after I voted.
Still, I'm mostly criticizing the whole choo-choo momentum thing. I even was asking to stall it at the time, remember?
I'm all for Klazam as scum, as I said, but I also think that, given multiball, I should be critical of you as well.
Like, if Klazam flips and is on one team, you could easily be on the other, and it'd make plenty of sense for you to want to jam through the wagon if one of your teammates was currently doing well in the World Congress, too.

[Varsoon]

I can’t decide if Varsoon’s recent contributions feel more like town trying to analyze, or scum that has at minimum a pretty good idea that it is multiball and is trying to communicate to the other team.

Thoughts from my townread friends?

Oh, lol, if I wanted to communicate to the other scumteam, I wouldn't be subtle, I'd just be like:

Red team, don't kill the IC--we're taking care of that.

[Klazam]

HEAL: Titus I have a good feeling about this slot.

Why? I just questioned you, you random vote to heal me while hardly engaging my substance.

I like how shaziro approached that. Also BuJaber's post on the host thing is goodposting.

Leaving vote there, though.

Like, I know i kinda went AFK for 2 days so i suck, but why do posts like these have not tingled anyone?

how are these two posts related?

[Joey_]

I can’t decide if Varsoon’s recent contributions feel more like town trying to analyze, or scum that has at minimum a pretty good idea that it is multiball and is trying to communicate to the other team.

Thoughts from my townread friends?

Oh, lol, if I wanted to communicate to the other scumteam, I wouldn't be subtle, I'd just be like:

Red team, don't kill the IC--we're taking care of that.

good one

[Dunkerdoodles]

chara do u tr or sr me

[marshy]

the point of a wagon is to lynch or create pressure. yes i want to put momentum towards it so something can HAPPEN in this game and generate more info/reads

besides

>joins me on wagon
>makes a CASE for the wagon
>shits on the guy who started it

lol @ this guy

Hahaha, please don't try to greentext here, it's unbecoming.
Oh, didn't realize you were voting there before me, thought you put a vote down and did the whole choo choo thing after I voted.
Still, I'm mostly criticizing the whole choo-choo momentum thing. I even was asking to stall it at the time, remember?
I'm all for Klazam as scum, as I said, but I also think that, given multiball, I should be critical of you as well.
Like, if Klazam flips and is on one team, you could easily be on the other, and it'd make plenty of sense for you to want to jam through the wagon if one of your teammates was currently doing well in the World Congress, too.

i just dont see whats scummy about calling for votes on a wagon of someone you want to see get more pressure and/or lynched. i can b a pretty bombastic player so perhaps youre just weirded out by my loud call for votes. that said i can at least agree that people shouldnt be cleared for scumlynches by itself considering the multiball thing

[Chara]

chara do u tr or sr me

i feel as though it should be obvious i don't townread you, but i suppose my last post on the subject was rather vague.
i'd be fine with a wagon on you.

Varsoon: i appreciate the explanation and the numbers.

[Almost50]

@Chara: OK...

UNVOTE:

Who do you think I should vote? (Hint: Not you, Nero, Dunker or ran)

how much are you townreading me?

first, tell me why not Dunker. i don't have any good scumreads yet. :>

Considering I only have 4 TRs, aside from brass.. not hard enough I'm afraid. I have ran as my top TR, followed by Nero, the you and Dunker share 3rd spot.

I can't explain my reads yet (apart from ran) so let's call them gut reads until I get to rereading stuff.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, you have no idea how to play mafia, so plz keep your opinions to yourself. You literally don't know how to play. You had to be taught by Titus. Enough said.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 7#p9275497

LOL just cos I took something from her doesn't mean she taught me, I don't think she was in any of my games for a bit of time. I learned by failing pretty much.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, you have no idea how to play mafia, so plz keep your opinions to yourself. You literally don't know how to play. You had to be taught by Titus. Enough said.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 7#p9275497

Ouch why are you quoting this?

just to annoy the fuck out of Gamma.

Well I'm not annoyed, in fact I didn't realize that post existed until you brought it up again.
in addendum to my last post, if I'd say someone did teach me how to play it would be Infinity324, with Ranmaru as a second.

[Shaziro]

I can’t decide if Varsoon’s recent contributions feel more like town trying to analyze, or scum that has at minimum a pretty good idea that it is multiball and is trying to communicate to the other team.

Thoughts from my townread friends?

Oh, lol, if I wanted to communicate to the other scumteam, I wouldn't be subtle, I'd just be like:

Red team, don't kill the IC--we're taking care of that.

And this could 100% be you taking the chance to communicate “as a joke”. Gross. If you’re town this is at best being purposefully antagonistic towards my ability to read you, and anti-town.

[Varsoon]

Nothing is scummy about jockeying for votes on a wagon normally, but it could be, circumstantially, and definitely in the face of making the IC world congress leader.
But you get my point, yeah?

[Varsoon]

I can’t decide if Varsoon’s recent contributions feel more like town trying to analyze, or scum that has at minimum a pretty good idea that it is multiball and is trying to communicate to the other team.

Thoughts from my townread friends?

Oh, lol, if I wanted to communicate to the other scumteam, I wouldn't be subtle, I'd just be like:

Red team, don't kill the IC--we're taking care of that.

And this could 100% be you taking the chance to communicate “as a joke”. Gross. If you’re town this is at best being purposefully antagonistic towards my ability to read you, and anti-town.

OR IF I AM TOWN I JUST ENSURED RED TEAM WON'T SHOOT AT OUR IC I THINK THAT'S PRETTY USEFUL MAYBE

Jesus, Shaz, get with the program.

[Klazam]

k im caught up.

I was planning to actively lurk til the game gets down to manageable numbers, Im utterly unused to larges. Obviously thats a no go at this point, my apologies. <also i have a different sleep schedule, so i always have like 10 pages to catch up on upon waking, but that aint a excuse.>

Addressing the reason why i left my vote on Bu- it was twinging me as sorta scummy in his posting, one goodpost doesnt erase that. I know i dont have that much of substance here, but thats how i feel here. (and still feel the same way.)

Liking Varsoon a lot at this point. The multiball analysis seems solid from a setup spec pov to me. Regarding the "communicating with the other team" point somebody brought up, thats stupid tbh. no reason to paint a target on his own head if he was scum.

Brass and Titus is my vote for the hosts. Me selfnomming myself for host was a stupid move, I wish i could change my vote, oh well. It was RVS, and i was just going with the flow after the Kokichi stuff.

Someone, dont recall who, mentioned me being preoccupied with host votes? Its kinda important to get that resolved soon. On the other hand, I think i misread the stuff related with delegate- I didnt realize that the extra host delegate was permanent. That obviously changes the math. Otherwise, I was thinking that the town could just hang a host that was obviously acting out of line with no real repercussions.

Direct questions to me about stuff, i can address easily. As for my opnion to the rest, IDK man.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Nero Cain

scummy. no town player goes after ranmaru for their vote/main focus at this junction of the game. almost50 can still go as well

eh wot m8
I've kinda been concerned of buddying from Ran so idk

are you scum this game or just being incredibly bad?

the difference between town ran and scum ran is as clear as night and day. as scum he posts halfassed attempts going nowhere and has none of his characteristic bravado. you should kno this by now and onto the scumlist you go for terrible thoughts

fos gamma

That's great, problem is I've only seen them as scum once so I have less to go on, so please keep in mind who you're talking to
Unless you want to enlighten me that they were scum in Crossover

[Gamma Emerald]

marshy, how are you reading Nero now?

now that i think about our games together, i'm pretty sure my last game with Nero was on my Not Chara account, so i can't exactly count on scum Nero knowing my current meta.

should everyone who knows Ran have him conftown by now? i certainly don't know him, but the game hasn't been on for that long.

pedit: i assumed marshy had played with both Gamma and Ran together a few times. otherwise that does make no sense. :>

I mean marshy played with me once and modded a game I was in once so I guess he's seen me a decent amount, though neither time I was actually town

[Varsoon]

I was the one, it was me who said you were pre-occupied with host stuff a lot, especially for someone who had such low content otherwise and had already self-voted.

[Klazam]

fair.

[Gamma Emerald]

also pidgey's on my townlist. i'd thought his "oh no, i didn't know he was IC" looked kind of over the top and faked, but the scum motivation for that didn't hold up.
also 604 is just town.

regarding Klazam scum, i don't have a problem with it.

true, pidgey's been birdbrained ( ) but it's not scummy feeling, they just seem a bit rusty
As for Klazam I think there's a question I asked they may not have answered

[Klazam]

ISO time beep beep

[Gamma Emerald]

Ay, fuggit.
VOTE: Klazaam

Can you talk with me a bit about this? I think he's a bit shifty but not quite scummy atm

[Varsoon]

Don't have much more to say besides what I've already said on it. 614's a pretty no-fluff elaboration.

[Varsoon]

Also, read my bit on the setup likely being multiball, which is what informs a lot of why I think all of that play is scummy, too.