Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[Almost50]

Hey Almost50.

Did you do anything last night with w/e role you have? I don't want specifics, just curious. I'd ask the same of NM, but he's just a douche disrupter and doesn't answer questions thrown at him anyway.

Question, did anyone NOT take an action last night?

Also, why the hell is everyone and their brother claiming on day freaking 2.

FTR, Kthxbye initially asked EVERYBODY, but it looked more of an exclamation than a question. The second time though he specifically asked ME, then tossed in N_M. So it is fair to assume he asked me in particular.

[Almost50]

I await your verdict. If you ask me, we should be lynching Mastina today, but what the hell do I know?

[Beefster]

I go to work and 12 pages happen. WAT.

[Carrot and Stick]

This isn't road to rome

Yeah because if it were players would actually be using basic mafia fundamentals like don't lynch the fucking cop claiming a guilty.

[Not_Mafia]

That's not the situation at hand and you know it

[Kthxbye]

well, that's a mighty convenient claim.

So, for claims we have a 1 shot Doc, a JK, a BG, AND a commuter? 4 ways to fuck scum outa killing who they want?

On one hand, it does (conveniently as fuck) explain away my night action and result no matter how MOD says he uses NO RESULT.

My problem now is do I believe you're a commuter and we have 3 other roles that protect/mess with scums NK or do I think the claim is way to convenient and you simply didn't act last night as a scum PR. The only way the latter makes much sense is if you are a 1-shot.

Another thing I'm considering is how long it took you to claim. Was it truly because you were trying to mess with scum night actions or was it because it took you a minute to find a better fake claim than the one provided by the MOD?

UNVOTE:
While I think about this.

Cuz if you're town, acryon and NM defending you as scum makes more sense than both of them throwing all their eggs into one basic to try and save a scum buddy.

Yeah, I'm gonna think about this and go through your posting.

[the worst]

I go to work and 12 pages happen. WAT.

Stop working

[Carrot and Stick]

I'll protect you as long as mastina's doc goes on Kthx. Kthx should obviously not out his target at all.

My plan is to use my rolecop tonight tho.

One problem the scum have this game is that there's too many town to kill. You, me, Beefster if he's town, the worst, and now kthx among others.
One problem the town protectives have is that there's too many targets for scum to kill. It's hard to predict who they'll go after.
I'd think the best idea would be for you to not announce your target or even your pool, and if I have the doc to flip a coin between using it or using the rolecop, also with an unannounced target pool. (Though if one of us needs a target pool, it'd be me.)
Beefster's probably best used as a roleblocker rather than protective at this point.

If we have overlap, then oh well, unfortunate, but it allows us to cover more ground and make the scum's job harder.

[Kthxbye]

Acutally, question: If you are a commuter, why was your plan better than insta claiming? commuters simply can't ever die (unless scum have an RB in which case I don't know which happens first?).

Also, if you're a commuter, why the fuck did you try and discount my claim at ANY point? I claim follower and as a commuter, you'd know full well it's more than likely a true claim given my result instead of a scum fake claim yet you vote me and try to throw doubt about my claim. At least I think this happened, I will review in a bit as a lot of people said a lot of things about my claim...

[Carrot and Stick]

I think we should elect someone to ultimately control the night actions.

That would be you.
I mean I can do it, but I'm prone to errors.
I'm best fit to refine existing plans and correct any errors you make.

[Kthxbye]

CS/Dino, what do you think of the claim? Help me out here.

[Carrot and Stick]

That's a great argument as to why not all those players are town

Counterpoint: this is a fucking role madness game; with strong town players...
...You need strong scum players.

...What was one of the main arguments in favor of acryon being town yesterday?
Something about his role being too strong to give to scum?

...Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[Not_Mafia]

I don't believe A50's claim, but I still think it's kthnx/mastina/Math

[the worst]

I'm waiting for Mastina to catch up. I need an experienced head

[Carrot and Stick]

90% or more. Scum!acryon would've definitely went the easier route and voted me here.

Oh?

What's so easy about voting you again?

Do tell because to my recollection you never got over half way to the lynch.

What's so easy about voting kthx?

I can name a few things!

[the worst]

I don't believe A50's claim, but I still think it's kthnx/mastina/Math

Why do you think town A50 would fakeclaim

[Not_Mafia]

He probably has some weird plan

[Not_Mafia]

Do tell because to my recollection you never got over half way to the lynch.

He's at 4 votes right now

[Almost50]

My problem now is do I believe you're a commuter and we have 3 other roles that protect/mess with scums NK or do I think the claim is way to convenient and you simply didn't act last night as a scum PR. The only way the latter makes much sense is if you are a 1-shot.

Another thing I'm considering is how long it took you to claim. Was it truly because you were trying to mess with scum night actions or was it because it took you a minute to find a better fake claim than the one provided by the MOD?

A 1-shot what exactly??

Also -and this is more important- I've been trying high and low, left and right to convince you that I was telling the truth and your result is still accurate. You haven't been cooperative at all. First you didn't want to claim the exact result, forcing me to make you. Second, you wouldn't get a hint (and I believe my hints were strong enough I suspect Scum already worked things out anyway).

Basically, if I was a Scum PR "who didn't act" why the hell would I tell you that I DID?? Like, you first assumed I did the NK although that IS an action, and now you tell me I'm scum who didn't act??

[Carrot and Stick]

See A50 is still scum by play here though. He's simultaneously trying to lynch Kthx but also put up a barrier for himself to not get lynched tomorrow. Meanwhile, Kthx is basically arguing for a full-on gladiate, which he's currently losing, and which certainly gets him lynched tomorrow.

There's a term for that!
It's called "trying to have your cake and eat it, too".
I use it all the time, you should try to spice your language up with an expression or two, too.

But yes. Dead on the money in the stark contrast between the two; difference between them is night and fucking day.
kthx commits to the guilty and is holding himself fully accountable for it.
Almost50 is voting based around the guilty and yet trying to worm out of being accountable for it. Because yes:

Either A50 believes the Follower claim and the claim is NAI, or he doesn't, and he shouldn't even be hedging here. Then there's also all the other ways A50 is scum by play but if anyone's gonna make a case that everyone's gonna ignore, it'll be mastina, not me.

What is Kthx's scum motivation here?

All of this. Literally ALL of it. kthx's scum motivation is nonexistent.
Almost50's scum motivation is to:
-Survive today
-Get a mislynch
-And avoid being lynched tomorrow.

[Kthxbye]

I don't believe A50's claim, but I still think it's kthnx/mastina/Math

......do you even read what you write?

[Not_Mafia]

I don't believe A50's claim, but I still think it's kthnx/mastina/Math

......do you even read what you write?

Yes

[Carrot and Stick]

OH MY FUCKING GOD.

MATHDINO

.

I KNOW YOU IGNORE MY POSTS.

BUT YOU NEED TO READ THIS FROM ACRYON.

I think

you lynch someone that, to your point, would have been very difficult to lynch

, and

have a fairly easy out when they flip town

(hint: we're living that out right now).

What is Kthx's scum motivation

now

? I think he's too far in to turn back, so I think he has to push forward and hope people will side with him. I presume C&S will come in and wall about how A50 is scum, and I think that's what Kthx has to hope for at this point.

READ THE EMPHASIZED PART OF THIS.

Why is this important?

...Now, tell me.
What action did acryon use on D1?
Who did he use it on?

How would you describe Iconeum and you, Mathdino?
Would you agree with me that both Iconeum and yourself qualify as players who would be very difficult to lynch?

[Not_Mafia]

I actually can't wait for acryon to flip town

[Kthxbye]

A50: Why did you leave your vote on me after I claimed and you fully believed I was what I claimed (according to your posts after my claim)?