Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Gamma Emerald]

I think it's more likely that there's just multiple NKs present.

It's possible, I could see a SK actually. I'm not too sold on 2 mafia, and I don't think it's really needed to be discussed right now until we see night kills.

I've explained why it's important to consider right now.

I think the setup is either: 14-3-3-1 (bulletproof SK, lots of town power, protectives in scum/town), 15-3-3, or 15-2-2-2 or something similar to that.

Not a huge fan of you undermining the IC.

Ehhhh anything beyond 15-3-3 I don't wanna think about

[Gamma Emerald]

Cutting this early because I want responses

@Dunker/Nero: are you voting me for my 213?

no

WHY?

[Gamma Emerald]

btw I held back my vitriol to actually try to engage with you Dunker, if you blow me off that vitriol will return twofold

[Shaziro]

Since my post seems to have been lost to the internet ether. Kokichi is both a scumlean for me and in my view, a bit of a wild card. Even if he was townlean from me, I don't want someone who is as unpredictable as I have seen him be.

Now I'm glad you'll likely be N1'd. I've caught you when you were obvious scum before. Do you find my game different than the one you replaced out of when I caught you as scum?

Wooooow way to be a massive dick! He had work you asshole, and that was stated there I believe.

+1, This guy cannot be a leader.

How does being a jerk make somebody a bad WC Host?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Brass:

Dunno if you got back to me or whatever, but did you figure anything out from your attempt at gambiting around IC? iirc you didn't have anything conclusive, but I could be wrong and also you've had more time to think on it now.

I did respond, but, I really think Dunker is scum.

I also got a few town reads from it, but not as much as I was hoping. I do think revealing with the World Congress still up for grabs ended up being a better play than anything I was able to do with my gambit, though.

can u explain why u scumread me so i can defend myself

VOTE: Dunkerdoodles
Hypocrite.

[Nero Cain]

^
bad vote

[Gamma Emerald]

my meta is not lynchbait anymore is what im saying

Hm okay, what im saying is that you are lynchbait this game

why am i lynchbait this game and not just scum?
VOTE: joey

Who says they have to be exclusive

[Gamma Emerald]

^
bad vote

Says the guy who thinks I'm "sheeping BuJaber"

[brassherald]

I still think Gamma is likely a comrade in arms to the town right now. I'm at least townleaning, but there seems to be a disagreement.

If we aren't going to finish setting up the World Congress today and getting a totally awesome resolution to be voting on, then, I would like to discuss Mr. Emerald and see if we can come to a meeting of the two factions, say an East and West that seem to have some wall between them.

[Titus]

Since my post seems to have been lost to the internet ether. Kokichi is both a scumlean for me and in my view, a bit of a wild card. Even if he was townlean from me, I don't want someone who is as unpredictable as I have seen him be.

Now I'm glad you'll likely be N1'd. I've caught you when you were obvious scum before. Do you find my game different than the one you replaced out of when I caught you as scum?

Wooooow way to be a massive dick! He had work you asshole, and that was stated there I believe.

+1, This guy cannot be a leader.

How does being a jerk make somebody a bad WC Host?

It shows either a) they are scum seeking to be the only opinionlistened to or b) they'll personally attack town to achieve their own personal objectives. A lack of a cooperative mindset is terrible for a leader.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Chara: OK...

UNVOTE:

Who do you think I should vote? (Hint: Not you,

Nero, Dunker

or ran)

Ew

[Gamma Emerald]

I still think Gamma is likely a comrade in arms to the town right now. I'm at least townleaning, but there seems to be a disagreement.

If we aren't going to finish setting up the World Congress today and getting a totally awesome resolution to be voting on, then, I would like to discuss Mr. Emerald and see if we can come to a meeting of the two factions, say an East and West that seem to have some wall between them.

Have you decoded my crumbs yet or is this just really lucky that you said this

[brassherald]

I still think Gamma is likely a comrade in arms to the town right now. I'm at least townleaning, but there seems to be a disagreement.

If we aren't going to finish setting up the World Congress today and getting a totally awesome resolution to be voting on, then, I would like to discuss Mr. Emerald and see if we can come to a meeting of the two factions, say an East and West that seem to have some wall between them.

Have you decoded my crumbs yet or is this just really lucky that you said this

I figured it out pretty early in the day yesterday, I have honestly been waiting to see if anyone else called it out.

I may have been a little too on the nose here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, read my bit on the setup likely being multiball, which is what informs a lot of why I think all of that play is scummy, too.

I've read it and don't see the connection?

[Titus]

I still think Gamma is likely a comrade in arms to the town right now. I'm at least townleaning, but there seems to be a disagreement.

If we aren't going to finish setting up the World Congress today and getting a totally awesome resolution to be voting on, then, I would like to discuss Mr. Emerald and see if we can come to a meeting of the two factions, say an East and West that seem to have some wall between them.

Have you decoded my crumbs yet or is this just really lucky that you said this

I figured it out pretty early in the day yesterday, I have honestly been waiting to see if anyone else called it out.

I may have been a little too on the nose here.

I have not but I am horrible with crumbs so I haven't even tried.

[Nero Cain]

Says the guy who thinks I'm "sheeping BuJaber"

if you aren't then I'm really not understanding what you are saying or maybe what he's saying. Bu was (and I guess he still believes?) that Koki is scum and Dunk is scummy and scum with her. He also believes that if Koki flips town then Dunk is also town. I don't agree with either of those statements but it's the latter that makes absolutely no sense to me. You said to me that I was using a wrong way association tell as in Bu's logic is right.

[Gamma Emerald]

Nothing is scummy about jockeying for votes on a wagon normally, but it could be, circumstantially, and definitely in the face of making the IC world congress leader.
But you get my point, yeah?

i get your point that townies cannot be cleared off of scum lynches

i dont get your point about me being the worst on the wagon. like do you think im just gonna say "oh yeah youre totally justified to push a townie cuz of multiball spec"?

lol this guy once again

in other news i am getting really anxious for a50 to flip but i do enjoy the klazam wagon.

first world problems man

In any other game I'd ignore this but it feels like a soft

[Gamma Emerald]

Says the guy who thinks I'm "sheeping BuJaber"

if you aren't then I'm really not understanding what you are saying or maybe what he's saying. Bu was (and I guess he still believes?) that Koki is scum and Dunk is scummy and scum with her. He also believes that if Koki flips town then Dunk is also town. I don't agree with either of those statements but it's the latter that makes absolutely no sense to me. You said to me that I was using a wrong way association tell as in Bu's logic is right.

Yeah I was saying Bu was right with the association, but I wasn't sheeping BuJaber. 213 is where I worked out that Bu was right myself. If I were to sheep him 213 would not exist. Is this clear?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hrmmm...Creature, Varsoon, Almost50.

If they are all scum, there is undoubtably a team in there somewhere

. Guess I'll look for some associatives.

huh?

[Nero Cain]

Yeah I was saying Bu was right with the association, but I wasn't sheeping BuJaber. 213 is where I worked out that Bu was right myself. If I were to sheep him 213 would not exist. Is this clear?

but its the EXACT same logic that Bu was pushing BEFORE you. Posting 213 still doesn't make you not a parrot.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Nero Cain

scummy. no town player goes after ranmaru for their vote/main focus at this junction of the game. almost50 can still go as well

eh wot m8
I've kinda been concerned of buddying from Ran so idk

How am I buddying you, when I have a null read of you?

I felt like you were defending my opening quite a lot

[Titus]

Nothing is scummy about jockeying for votes on a wagon normally, but it could be, circumstantially, and definitely in the face of making the IC world congress leader.
But you get my point, yeah?

i get your point that townies cannot be cleared off of scum lynches

i dont get your point about me being the worst on the wagon. like do you think im just gonna say "oh yeah youre totally justified to push a townie cuz of multiball spec"?

lol this guy once again

in other news i am getting really anxious for a50 to flip but i do enjoy the klazam wagon.

first world problems man

In any other game I'd ignore this but it feels like a soft

Why highlight perceived softs?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I was saying Bu was right with the association, but I wasn't sheeping BuJaber. 213 is where I worked out that Bu was right myself. If I were to sheep him 213 would not exist. Is this clear?

but its the EXACT same logic that Bu was pushing BEFORE you. Posting 213 still doesn't make you not a parrot.

Ex-fucking-cuse me? Do you not get how it isn't parroting if I'm reaching the conclusion myself, or are you seriously that inept at grasping this?

[Gamma Emerald]

Nothing is scummy about jockeying for votes on a wagon normally, but it could be, circumstantially, and definitely in the face of making the IC world congress leader.
But you get my point, yeah?

i get your point that townies cannot be cleared off of scum lynches

i dont get your point about me being the worst on the wagon. like do you think im just gonna say "oh yeah youre totally justified to push a townie cuz of multiball spec"?

lol this guy once again

in other news i am getting really anxious for a50 to flip but i do enjoy the klazam wagon.

first world problems man

In any other game I'd ignore this but it feels like a soft

Why highlight perceived softs?

Eh don't worry about it
that was a mistake

[Gamma Emerald]

To explain, Ranmaru, I think all of them are scummy on their own. In trying to find strange interactions between them, I can narrow down which one I think will give me the most information if they flip, and then I will know where I want my vote. Do you disagree that a person who has a potential association with 4 people is worth more to lynch than a person with no potential associations, assuming both are scummy in and of themselves?

What do you think of Varsoon's multiball theory?