Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[acryon]

NM ur a troll

That would explain why I'm so confused by all of this.

[Not_Mafia]

I'm not trolling, I can't explain until after acryon flips for reasons you'll understand if I do end up explaining, but I won't explain before acryon flips, even if I'm lynched, so either lynch me or drop the subject

[Mathdino]

acryon do you know anything about any of this?

[acryon]

acryon do you know anything about any of this?

I do not. I did nothing last night and did not receive anything.

[Mathdino]

And your flip won't actually add anything to the information at hand, correct?

Flavour maybe? I feel like it's flavour.

[Momrangal]

Ok kool.

Let's all just go back to mastina then

[Mathdino]

Nah, we're doing this instead.

VOTE: Marangal

[Momrangal]

Ok

[acryon]

And your flip won't actually add anything to the information at hand, correct?

Flavour maybe? I feel like it's flavour.

I mean I don't think so? I've said everything about my role. Must be flavor-related.

[Mathdino]

acryon is town, don't ask me why, everyone has what they need to figure it out

PEdit: omg everyone staph

This was after acryon's flavour claim.

It has to be flavour related.

[Kthxbye]

Nah, we're doing this instead.

VOTE: Marangal

Okay

VOTE: Momrangal

So, why we going after the claimed messenger? Also, can someone remind me what happened with this claim and lack of result?

[Mathdino]

Realistically, the scumteam could very viably be A50/N_M/Marangal.

I don't believe acryon is scum with Not_Mafia.

Messenger is basically useless to us while we could at least in theory get info from the motion detector.

Plus, a messenger sending a message saying "I'm town" is lolworthy.

[Kthxbye]

Plus, a messenger sending a message saying "I'm town" is lolworthy.

yeah, I was thinking this as well, but it's just as lolworthy for it to be a scum messenger. Fakeclaim maybe? Did we ever figure out why her message didn't go through?

[Mathdino]

Beefster jailed her

[Beefster]

If Not_Mafia flips scum, the scumteam is probably M_M/mastina/acryon

[Beefster]

Beefster jailed her

Can confirm.

[Mathdino]

N_M/acryon doesn't really make sense here. That also requires mastina hardbussing both her partners. It'd be unlike her.

[the worst]

If acryon is town who do you think third scum is likely to be Beef?

pedit ninjadino

[Beefster]

A50

[InfernoBrafin]

@TW: Yes, we are definitely town. I'd rather not out just yet though.

@C&S:

You know what's still bothering me? That no one has come up with a good solution to C&S's claim that they had a gunsmith-like guilty on MD, but it was D1 with no N0, and it obviously wasn't incriminating enough to push at a gladiator lynch, but incriminating enough to choke the entire thread with walls. This seems very much out of the ballpark, but maybe I just missed something in the skim. Would someone like to clarify?

Yes, you did in fact miss something by skimming.

Spoiler: Explanation

you claimed a gunsmith guilty on me before i ever claimed my role

To the contrary! I did not

claim

a 'gunsmith guilty' on you before you claimed your role.

I claimed it after.

I

stated

the gunsmith thing a grand total of once before then, which was indeed before your claim. It served a particular purpose which was loosely but only indirectly related. I had good reason for that but given I've no interest in fullclaiming I shouldn't go into detail. My softing for my role is such that you'll probably understand exactly what I was doing/going for when I flip/fullclaim but before then will remain confused as to what the fuck I actually am. Given that I am firmly of the opinion that the ambiguity doesn't hurt the town and yet helps the town by not helping the scum, I'd prefer to keep it that way.

I elaborate on this further when I actually go through on the claim--

I stated that my mention of gunsmith had a meaning. (By NRG standards, a JOAT with a cop power, which a rolecop qualifies as, would show as having a gun; in contrast, a JOAT with a doctor power, in spite of a normal doctor having no gun, does not make someone appear as having none. I was also referencing roles, in that I was hinting that I could look at Mathdino's ROLE. Because. Yaknow. That's what a rolecop does.)

Otherwise, her saying she had a gunsmith guilty on Dino makes no sense

My rolecop is a night action; I said this on D1; there was no N0 and I was a replacement into this game anyway. It was meant as a breadcrumb/softclaim, yes, but not in that way.

So what you are telling me is: You felt that he was some sort of protective role, so you said you had a gunsmith-esque quilty on him and tried to have him lynched as scum? And that's a a softclaim as a role cop ability?

Help me out here. I'm just trying to understand why someone would use a softclaim to try and lynch what they are now saying they considered a protective role all along.

Plus, why would you claim a gunsmith guilty as your softclaim when it's obvious that there was no way for you to get that claim, since there was no N0? What kind of softclaim uses impossible claims and is that indirect?

[Almost50]

A50

@ me being Scum with Mastina!

[Mathdino]

IB there are a dozen more important things you could be doing than tunneling on mastina using a metaphor.

You're not parsing mastina's words correctly. That's fine, whatever, she can explain that to you. But the feedback time for you to have a conversation with mastina is so unbearingly long on average that you're holding yourself up by going down that road.

I think you're surface level scumhunting tbh. You get hung up on small inconsistencies without really looking at anyone's overall trajectories. mastina claiming a "gunsmith-guilty sort of scumread" on me is NAI. Me using the word "scummy" differently in different context is NAI. And if I were scum, you wouldn't be able to catch the entire scumteam by me literally stating my scumpartners in my first post, lol.

Your lynchpool is all low hanging fruit.

But hey, I agree that there's at least one scum in it. So work on the other slots.

[Momrangal]

WHAT ABOUT MASTIN CALLING A50 SCUM FOR DOING SOMETHING HE DOES AS BOTH ALIGNMENTS

[Momrangal]

And honestly is isn't just A50. She's been doing that all game. To all of her supposed scum reads

[BuJaber]

So either Math is lying or scum have strongman. (Strongman it is).

Either Mom is lying or mastina is lying (jailkeeper does not rolestop actions as mod has said).

Either kthx is lying or A50 is lying or A50 is ninja+strongman or A50 is ascetic or both town. Not a whole lot of help there. Just if kthx is scum his play was really weird. I mean it would indicate a kthx/NM/acryon team maybe. Or kthx/mastina/NM. Or Kthx/mastina/beef? Whatever don't need to figure that out now.

NM's result doesn't clear acryon. If acryon is scum no way he'd have gladiator and strongman. If we believe NM acryon is town because of the info he doesn't want to reveal not because of the result. So they're both either scum or town independently. But fwiw I actually believe NM here I just think he's wrong about acryon.

If NM is scum A50 makes sense as scum, mom, IB, heck even mastina.

We are assuming beef is town though there is nothing to suggest it honestly. Let's not forget him.

I think we have to lynch A50 or mom.

Mastina being a liar is so unlikely. Let's just find out now fuck it I want that shit put to bed.

We have to lynch mom. Mom you flipping town single-handedly ensures a mastina lynch. Gotta take what you can get. Self vote please we don't need to stretch this out anymore. You might say well why not lynch mastina and if the answer is not obvious is that me and MD both think her being scum is quite far fetched so by default you're more expendable.

3rd scum could be a lot of people so let's just find scum first and then we can think about the entire scumteam.

Mom is the lynch everyone.
MD check my work

VOTE: Mom