Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[Mathdino]

Or it would be but, more than likely, you won't be around tomorrow to help me get that lynch.

I also don't feel good putting my vote on a toan read

I humbly request that upon my inevitable death, the worst and Bujaber both sheep my reads and lynch mastina, with the inevitable votes of InfernoBrafin, Not_Mafia, Marangal, and possibly acryon.

There's your votes. mastina hasn't been lynched today because I keep throwing my support behind all her counterwagons. She's, if anything, MORE likely to get lynched without me (I keep getting distracted).

Look the bottom line is Bujaber's most likely town, Not_Mafia's endorsement of acryon is likely correct and town motivated, the worst is town, la la la, blah blah blah, A50 is scum by PoE. He hasn't done anything this game that isn't fakable by scum-him (by contrast, the worst has done things outside his scum range, and MAYBE Not_Mafia has? idk).

[Not_Mafia]

Why not just lynch mastin now?

[Mathdino]

Because A50 is scum before mastina is scum

[Momrangal]

Mmm

Ok, Those aren't bad points

VOTE: A50

L-1

[Almost50]

Is there a world where Mom and A50 are scum together?

To Math/Mastina.. there's a world where I'm scum with the mod even.

[Almost50]

Actually, I think Dino's a Buddhist, and he believes I'm scum with everything!

[Almost50]

I'm not fucking policy lynching mastina (

a confirmed JOAT

with a claimed doc/roleblocker) for using a metaphor.

Remind me again how that was confirmed? I mean, we accepted the claim alright, but how was it mechanically confirmed?

[Almost50]

Inb4 "he's questioning my statement, so he must be scum"

[Mathdino]

I answered no to marangal/A50 my dude

Mastina is confirmed joat by Icons flip, she's just not confirmed town

Questioning setup spec is NAI, plus you know very well i townread that shit more often than not

[Almost50]

Mastina is confirmed joat by Icons flip, she's just not confirmed town

I've been in a game with a Deputy without there being a Cop. And I've been in a game with both Miller AND GF roles present but ALSO no investigative. (the former was a massive 42 player game too)

[acryon]

Mastina is confirmed joat by Icons flip, she's just not confirmed town

I've been in a game with a Deputy without there being a Cop. And I've been in a game with both Miller AND GF roles present but ALSO no investigative. (the former was a massive 42 player game too)

To this end, I will say that this post from C&S feels like a very big pile of BS if you're of the opinion that C&S could be lying.

Iconeum is a backup of my role. (Something I guessed at D1 which is one of the reasons I was defending him so adamantly--I don't know HOW, but somehow, I just

knew

that he was a backup JOAT specifically.)

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin:

Just stopped to take a break on post #426, which means I'm making good progress. However, I've almost already used up a whole page for this flowchart, so showing it to you guys is pretty much out of the question.

That being said, I have a bit more to go over (and this is completely out of order, folks):

The policy lynching stuff drives me crazy. While at this point I'm willing to say it's not scum-indicative, it makes me want to scream and throw my computer.
A50 comes in with a comment on RVS and super odd interaction with Bu. Not liking that.
Acryon is not posting. :p
The Ico/Math thing cements a T/T there, so Math is conftown by this point.
Bu tries to "gladiate" between us, Mom, and him. Surprised? Not at all. On this point I can agree with Mastina, Bu can come off as kind of nasty sometimes.
A50 also has a nice wall post
Beef/Bu =/= scum/scum Their interactions have been pokey and weird, but not fabricated in the way you expect SvS.
Beef/Tw/Math is all SUPER weird. But Tw/Math is most likely town, which means Beef is... What? His 180 has me pinged too hard to say he's town, but by association, he's not scum...
N_M gets scummier by the post.
When Acyron post though, it's a good one. He's got me on the fence.
C&S, at this point, looks AWFUL. It feels like she's attacing about half of town, and I have no idea why.
There's that "Acryon is town/Math is scum" thing that N_M has going. But if Math = town, N_M is most likely scum and so is Acryon.

AS of post #426, scum is in:
Bu
Beef
C&S
Acryon
N_M
Mom
A50
(Which yes, I know that's more than half of the players left, but this is D1 after all. I still have a lot of sorting to do, about 1450 posts!)

As for scum teams, I've got the following:
No Mom + Bu
No A50 + Acryon
No Bu + Beef
Yes Acryon+ N_M

So scum teams can be, if my logic is correct:
Acryon/N_M/Bu
Acryon/N_M/Mom
Acryon/N_M/C&S
Acryon/N_M/Beef
Bu/C&S/A50
Mom/C&S/A50
Beef/C&S/A50
Beef/C&S/Mom

Will post more either tonight or tomorrow, but probably will not for the rest of the afternoon unless I just have tons of free time.

[Mathdino]

@acryon: actually yeah that post is pretty lynchable tomorrow, good take

still, i want to finish this story arc first

are we all good with the plans?

A50 scumflip:

Mathdino protects Kthxbye
mastina blocks Beefster
Beefster jails mastina
the worst checks acryon
Marangal holsters
Not_Mafia motion detects Marangal
Kthxbye follows Not_Mafia

A50 townflip

:
Mathdino protects the worst
mastina protects Kthx
Beefster jails Bujaber

the worst/Kthx check anyone
Not_Mafia checks anyone not already slated for a night action
Everyone else holsters unless they know their action strictly helps town

[Mathdino]

No A50 + Acryon
No Bu + Beef

bad takes

a50/acryon is actually somewhat likely

[acryon]

That plan seems as good as any.

[Mathdino]

do you feel like hammering then

[InfernoBrafin]

Inferno

Wait MD.

I have a relevant question before we continue on.
Is this flip most likely going to flip scum tomorrow by associations?

I also am amused by the fact that you want C&S lynched, but are going after the claimed commuter.

[acryon]

No A50 + Acryon
No Bu + Beef

bad takes

a50/acryon is actually somewhat likely

Obviously disagree with you on that, but what do you think of the take that Bu and Beef can't be partners?

[InfernoBrafin]

Don't hammer yet! Answer first!

[InfernoBrafin]

Also, does everyone generally agree with this information? And would he same associations be available without the coming night?

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin:

@Math: Not from A50's first post. He goes after Acryon in literally the first breath he takes, then goes silent. A50 could be, imo, trying to shade Acryon/make him look like a scumbuddy (Assuming that A50!scum)
@All: I know this is kind of sucky, but could we put off the lynch for a few days? I could really use the time to get this flowchart together.

[acryon]

Brafin:

@Math: Not from A50's first post. He goes after Acryon in literally the first breath he takes, then goes silent. A50 could be, imo, trying to shade Acryon/make him look like a scumbuddy (Assuming that A50!scum)
@All: I know this is kind of sucky, but could we put off the lynch for a few days? I could really use the time to get this flowchart together.

I don't think there's any reason we need to rush, especially if we have a player wanting to catch up and contribute appreciably to the game.

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin:

Remember, I'm looking at this from a perspective of someone who just replaced in. I don't care about anything past #426 yet, all I know is three things: I'm town, Ico was town, and TGP was town.

[Mathdino]

I have a relevant question before we continue on.
Is this flip most likely going to flip scum tomorrow by associations?

I also am amused by the fact that you want C&S lynched, but are going after the claimed commuter.

bro, if this flips scum, then we either have this game on lock by nightplay and associatives (like how scum clearly never wanted A50 lynched), or no one will die and we can have this conversation again tomorrow
if this flips town, i die and we lynch mastina
commuter is a bad role, i don't see what's so bad about going after a commuter instead of a claimed roleblocker/doctor

Obviously disagree with you on that, but what do you think of the take that Bu and Beef can't be partners?

i mean i'm townreading bujaber
but in a universe where bujaber was scum, there really isn't that much against bujaber/beefster

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin:

Great. In that case, I'm going to move for a bold action. Please pardon if this comes off a little harsh or arrogant:

Everyone unvote and minimize posting. Now. Right this second.

This prevents A) A quickhammer from stupid town or scum and B) it lowers the incoming posts, making it easier for me to catch up. Previously we had points where we got 3-4 PAGES in an hour, and if I'm going to catch up, that's just not going to work.