Mini Normal 1996: Floral Mafia [Endgame!]

[Killthestory]

Do you believe your reads?

in this case, yes.

[Cedrick]

Idk if he’s scum yet but I’m leaning that way. If he is town I don’t believe for a second he believes any of the reads he’s given.

If he was town he'd definitely believe his reads. No reason to give reads he doesn't believe them if he's town.

People lie in rvs to get reactions. If you honestly think he believes mumble isn’t scum off 1 post, I’ve got some ocean front property in Arizona for you.

[Cedrick]

*is scum

[Killthestory]

am i in a game filled with potatoes?

[Tchill13]

My vote on implosion is now serious.

What made it serious?

[Killthestory]

can we have more engagement? i don't want to play a stagnate game.

[implosion]

can we have more engagement? i don't want to play a stagnate game.

I'm happy to engage with you if you're not going to be ridiculously cryptic ^_^

cedrick is probably actually town.

[implosion]

Like, if you're annoyed that there's no engagement then please, explain why you scumread me and mumble.

[Tchill13]

I don't think there's enough reason to scum read mumble. I do appreciate activity but I feel like you're definitely trying to take control of the game and I also don't like how you pointed out you could be aggressive as scum also.

[implosion]

In a vacuum I want to call kts town right now but I don't think I know his meta well enough to have any degree of confidence in that.

[katherine]

Also dislike tchill's 41.

What about it? Should he be drawing the same conclusion as you..?

You're only voting mumble off meta aren't you?

How would mumble have meta told

i'd vote there if mumble wasn't almost certainly a wolf.

Welcome to Real World mafiascum. Where people stop being fake and start being real.

Basically all of the reads you have given are fake in attempt to stir up drama. Please stop

What does drama mean in this context? I think anything that would be called drama is usually helpful in mafia

[implosion]

What about it? Should he be drawing the same conclusion as you..?

It's very beg-the-question-y, as though it would be reasonable to nail someone as scum off of a single point. It looks like scum hedging on either a scumbuddy or on a townie and not really sure if they want to risk joining the possibly-developing wagon.

[Killthestory]

can we have more engagement? i don't want to play a stagnate game.

I'm happy to engage with you if you're not going to be ridiculously cryptic ^_^

cedrick is probably actually town.

i try not to be cryptic lol.

cedrick is fairly solid v. good spew even if i am ignoring him.

Like, if you're annoyed that there's no engagement then please, explain why you scumread me and mumble.

weird entrance + scumreads on katherine and tchill seem like low hanging fruit. you don't offer much analysis off either except for one weird post by tchill which i've already cleared up his alignment for the thread.

mumble's entrance while albeit not scummy into itself, within the context of the game, is a scummy pop in during rvs to lock a vote and leave. no sense of forming a wagon, no sense of solving, and the vote i have on him almost always hits a wolf.

I don't think there's enough reason to scum read mumble. I do appreciate activity but I feel like you're definitely trying to take control of the game and I also don't like how you pointed out you could be aggressive as scum also.

i'm a very dominant player. not sure how you want me to respond to this in any other way than "lolok"

sorry for being honest with you? do you want me to lie and say i'm way beyond my wolf range? lol you're making very far stretches with your logic rn that make no sense as far as mafia arguments go.

[Tchill13]

I just don't see why you even brought it up. No need to.

[Tchill13]

What about it? Should he be drawing the same conclusion as you..?

It's very beg-the-question-y, as though it would be reasonable to nail someone as scum off of a single point. It looks like scum hedging on either a scumbuddy or on a townie and not really sure if they want to risk joining the possibly-developing wagon.

Early day one I'm down for any wagon that's not mine.

[Killthestory]

I just don't see why you even brought it up. No need to.

uh, yeah, there was. i was telling you you werr wrong. i'm not here to manipulate you by any means necessary. i'm telling you when you're right and wrong, and in that case, you were wrong. i can fake that level of interaction and aggression fine. you reading me town for it is bad and will hurt you in future games.

What about it? Should he be drawing the same conclusion as you..?

It's very beg-the-question-y, as though it would be reasonable to nail someone as scum off of a single point. It looks like scum hedging on either a scumbuddy or on a townie and not really sure if they want to risk joining the possibly-developing wagon.

Early day one I'm down for any wagon that's not mine.

don't make posts like this in the future.

[Ausuka]

Notes so far;
38 from Maria is really reachy.
44 feels pretty scummy too. 59/63 is a huge overreaction to the push at that point.
I townread Cedrick and katherine.
Creature hasn't really posted enough to be sorted yet. If this keeps going for a while he can be town.
What kts did can come from either alignment and I haven't found anything to sort him with.

Extra-Special Townbloc of Happy Friends

Ausuka, Cedrick

Candidates For Promotion

Katherine

Watchlist For Meaniness

brassherald, Creature, Gamma Emerald, Mumble, Killthestory, implosion

Wanted for Bullying and General Sad Crimes

MariaR, Tchill13

VOTE: Tchill

[brassherald]

VOTE: Maria

If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion

@havo why did you change your disclaimer from the last game?

Found my mason partner

Awesome post on page one man.

Elaborate?

VOTE: Katherine
Serious vote I feel like this was an obv joke/being sassy and from what i've seen scum are more then likely to take posts more seriusly because scum know people are town so there posts are legit...I prob could've explained this a bit better but yeah

VOTE: Maria

If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion

@havo why did you change your disclaimer from the last game?

It seemed to cause too much controversy and took away from the RVS stage.
And I like this new one better.

Did you change this before this game or while you were making your post

I was thinking about not mentioning it at all. But then when I went to post I figured I dial it back a bit.
I think it still gets the point across tho, don’t you?

Yeah I don't fully get the context on why you needed to dial it back because it seemed perfectly fine before and maybe some people are babies but eh

idk how to take Havos change if he said it was before the game that would've made it now saying he did it while he was posting could mean self conscious scum but the tone so far feels like town who genuinely didn't want to fuck something up.
Whew sr and a tr so far Maria you are on fire
Pedit: I don't think you should give tips regardless and let us see the reaction

Both these posts feel fake to me. I really don't get the "scum takes things too seriously day 1" BS, and the Havo thing is weird as well, even if she does land on town.

VOTE: Maria

I hate myself for this quote wall already by the way.

[Creature]

Sorry, I was sorta lazy.

[Creature]

Hello Hello Hello.

Before I RVS vote, let me introduce myself.

I’m a mediocre mafia player at best who really dislikes Day 1s.
I’ve been known to quick hammer peeps on Day 1 if it’s just a day or two
Into the game to get the game moving.

I’m generally quite active and polite. But I have been called terrible town, an idiot and a Liar.
As recently as my last game.

But I’m looking forward to a great game with this player list.

I guess I townread Havo because of this.

[Creature]

VOTE: katherine
Too many already.
btw I'm super excited about this playerlist

This being Gamma's only post so far looks terrible.

[Creature]

VOTE: Maria

If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion

@havo why did you change your disclaimer from the last game?

Town I guess.

[Creature]

VOTE: creature

Scum slipped. Town know how to vote properly

-_-

[Creature]

Yeah, 38 is bad.

[Creature]

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KTS and Tchill are town