VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Maid Cafe]

er.
I meant you are avoiding actual engagements and all your are your mainly just bickering when you interact with people.

~B

[Reasonably Rational]

Your line of inquiry is confusing to me beeboy. Either I'm misunderstanding something about the position OTM is holding, or you are.

-Cerb

[Creature]

Still don't understand how Venmar is out the townblock, but whatever.

Why would Venmar be *in* the townblock?

-Cerb

Because of his claim.

[OnTheMark]

You in the past 4 pages have yet to answer the simplest questions.

Why do you think Mastina is making a risk here as scum?

Answered mentioned investigative roles

Why do you think Mastina would be forcing her buddies to play around her claim?

Answered mentioned investigative roles

What are your thoughts on role being made before alignments?

I already addressed I don’t want to get into mechanics. It’s a Varsoon game.

Like it isn't even about the answers to the question at this point. Your approach is just sketchy af here, your misrepresenting what is going on in the thread. you aren't talking about why your town reads are town and you aren't trying to avoid actual engagement, you just want to bicker.

~B

Already addressed those. See italics.

[OnTheMark]

Chara, it seemed like Mastina believed if. While her ability seems weak at the same time it doesn’t negate that she has one and it’s out in the open. The misunderstanding doesn’t negate the fact she claimed something and I want clarification from her. Note please also answer with just a yes or no mastina. The predicated belief is what is necessary and mastina from what I have heard about her if scum wouldn’t immediately drop a claim that her buddies would be pigeonholed into. Mastina is a lover of truth.

What specifically was the joke? Help me be “On the Mark” so to speak.

I saw the “misinterpretation” and I put that in quotes because it is irrelevant to why I townread her and thus Yume.

but an outright factual claim isn’t something she does as scum.

This is the part I kinda want you to expand on.
Why wouldn't she outright claim something as scum?
How do you know the claim in question is "factual"?

~B

Because as scum she keeps options open.

I mean factual in the concrete sense.
I have no idea what spells etc are in the game. Mastina if town doesn’t know either and mastina if scum doesn’t know any town abilities either. Therefore an absolute of “I have an ability where...” is something that will resolve itself. Mastina as scum never pigeonholes herself like that.

@beeboy here you go again.

[Creature]

Me again townreading everyone with 10+ posts :/

[Maid Cafe]

Your line of inquiry is confusing to me beeboy. Either I'm misunderstanding something about the position OTM is holding, or you are.

-Cerb

I am saying that Mark hasn't actually done anything this game.
The town block thing has really 0 explained reads or attempts to sort people and is just Mark looking busy and buddying people. Like Mark's townbloc thing is a super closed discussion that Mark is trying to keep that way which is something I don't like. (Like look at the response to Venmar)
And throughout interacting with me, Mark hasn't actually done shit outside shade me and call me scum for really shallow reasons. Which again just feels like mark trying to keep really closed discussion while looking busy.

Like Mark went out of his way to ignore replying to my read and said it was a playstyle issue.
I don't really care about the answer to the questions in all honesty. I just want to see how people approach engagements and that is what is important.

Like reading the post and showing he thought about it in anyway what so ever. Mark obviously cares enough to reply to my 1 line posts so I don't really see why all my other posts about him would be something Mark gives 0 shits about.

Like I said I don't care about the answers to the questions I just think the approach is what makes him scum.

~B

[Maid Cafe]

Answered mentioned investigative roles

You haven't mentioned investigative roles this game a single time?

~B

[Reasonably Rational]

Answered mentioned investigative roles

You haven't mentioned investigative roles this game a single time?

~B

^

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

Also, Beeboy, I was the one misunderstanding things. You were referring to the post OTM made about thinking mastina is town because what she's done doesn't make sense for scum!mastina, and I misinterpreted your post as you thought OTM was scumreading mastina somehow.

I get it now. ^^

-Cerb

[OnTheMark]

Chara, it seemed like Mastina believed if. While her ability seems weak at the same time it doesn’t negate that she has one and it’s out in the open. The misunderstanding doesn’t negate the fact she claimed something and I want clarification from her. Note please also answer with just a yes or no mastina. The predicated belief is what is necessary and mastina from what I have heard about her if scum wouldn’t immediately drop a claim that her buddies would be pigeonholed into. Mastina is a lover of truth.

What specifically was the joke? Help me be “On the Mark” so to speak.

I saw the “misinterpretation” and I put that in quotes because it is irrelevant to why I townread her and thus Yume.

but an outright factual claim isn’t something she does as scum.

This is the part I kinda want you to expand on.
Why wouldn't she outright claim something as scum?
How do you know the claim in question is "factual"?

~B

Because as scum she keeps options open.

I mean factual in the concrete sense.
I have no idea what spells etc are in the game.

Mastina if town doesn’t know either and mastina if scum doesn’t know any town abilities either. Therefore an absolute of “I have an ability where...” is something that will resolve itself. Mastina as scum never pigeonholes herself like that.

@beeboy here you go again.

I feel like I am in the twilight zone. I underlined where I talked about roles?

How can I be talking about roles but yet to you I am not?

[OnTheMark]

Let me break it down for you
Case A:Mastina is lying.
Consequence A: Mastina/Yume hydra opens themselves up to roles that fuck with them.

Case B: Mastina is truthtelling.
Consequence B: Mastina/Yume has to then limit what her scumbuddies can do. This implies comfort with scumbuddies and/or hyper posters.

Like huh?

[Maid Cafe]

What does that have to do with investigative roles?

~B

[OnTheMark]

What does that have to do with investigative roles?

~B

What do roles have to do with roles?

Like if Mastina is lying roles out her lie. *blinks*
So as scum she’d be pigeonholing her buddies.
As town it’s just silly.

Therefore the most likely option is Mastina is telling the truth. In which case also pigeonholes her buddies.

If you were scum would you role claim without consent of buddies?

[Maid Cafe]

I mean I don't know why you are getting snarky.
You really didn't mention investigative roles in anyway.

~B

[Maid Cafe]

I told you that you never backed up your statement. You said you backed it up and your answer involved investigative roles which it didn't involve.

You then proceed to answer my question by rephrasing it.

Me: "Why do you think Mastina would be forcing her buddies to play around her claim?"
You: "So as scum she’d be pigeonholing her buddies."

How is she doing this?

~B

[Chara]

hey, this argument is pointless, can we nix it. you're talking around each other. Mark's underlined bit means investigative roles to them, and his logic on this has been consistent. i don't think any more semantics are going to help.

[Bronya Zaychik]

Kiana and I TR RR and Creature strongly.

[Maid Cafe]

hey, this argument is pointless, can we nix it. you're talking around each other. Mark's underlined bit means investigative roles to them, and his logic on this has been consistent. i don't think any more semantics are going to help.

I mean Mark keeps changing the argument so that's how it reads.
Mark hasn't explained anything they've said this game and he actively refuses to do so.

"How has Mastina committed to a claim"
"How has Mastina limit what her scumbuddies can do"
"If roles are made before alignment how is it AI when it could easily just be her real role"

Like these aren't questions that take 10 pages to answer.
Mark keeps answering by rephrasing the question.

~B

[Maid Cafe]

"How has Mastina committed to a claim" (As in Mastina claimed nothing so far)
"How has Mastina limited what her scumbuddies can do"
"If roles are made before alignment how is it AI when it could easily just be her real role"

@Chara

Show me the answers to these questions.

~B

[OnTheMark]

hey, this argument is pointless, can we nix it. you're talking around each other. Mark's underlined bit means investigative roles to them, and his logic on this has been consistent. i don't think any more semantics are going to help.

+1 Exactly my sentiments.

I am nixing it until someone can rephrase the question in a way I understand. I am trying here but I don’t get it.

[Maid Cafe]

If you let Mark go in circles for 10 pages while he actively ignores answering my basic questions and let him get away with it, I am not trying anymore.

~B

[Maid Cafe]

"How has Mastina committed to a claim"
"How has Mastina limit what her scumbuddies can do"
"If roles are made before alignment how is it AI when it could easily just be her real role"

There is no excuse that Mark can't answer this shit.

~B

[OnTheMark]

Oh, also.
I think this is important to claim.

NOBODY CAST ANY VOTES UNTIL OUR HYDRA HAS HAD A CHANCE TO CAST VOTES.

We have a very, very strong ability which has a very, very specific trigger--and every time a player votes before we use this, the ability becomes weaker.
Go ahead and FoS all you want, but for the duration of the time we are alive, this will apply at the beginning of every day phase.

(THIS IS WHY WORDING IN ROLE PMS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE MY INTERPRETATION OF THE ROLE WAS A GAMEBREAKINGLY POWERFUL ABILITY AND YET V IS TELLING ME HE MEANT SOMETHING ELSE WITH THAT WORDING. /rant )

Oh.

Orrrrrr...our ability could be ridiculously, ridiculously week of the mod correction means anything.
Disregard my message then.

Mastina’s claim

If she doesn’t have a role that matches whatever this is investigative roles would fuck her over. Point A.

[Maid Cafe]

That's not an investigative claim?

~B