Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[Mathdino]

it's out of the question that Beef and Mom are the team?

Would require Beefster being a mafia strongman jailkeeper and Marangal being a mafia messenger, so no it's not out of the question, but that would be pretty fuckin freaky.

uhg...do we have a consolidated claimed action/resolution list somewhere? My head hurts.

N1:
mastina ??? (probably rolecopped me)
Beefster jails Marangal
Marangal messages mastina (fails)
the worst checks Iconeum, town
Mathdino protects Iconeum
Not_Mafia checks acryon, no motion
Kthxbye checks Almost50, no result
Some jackass strongman-kills Iconeum

N2:
mastina roleblocks Beefster
Beefster jails mastina
the worst checks InfernoBrafin, town
Kthxbye checks Not_Mafia, did not kill
Not_Mafia checks Marangal, no motion
Some jackass strongman-kills mastina

Protectives: Mathdino (Bodyguard), Beefster (Jailkeeper)
Investigatives: the worst (unknown), Kthxbye (Follower), Not_Mafia (Motion Detector)
Miscellaneous: InfernoBrafin (Conftown), Marangal (Messenger), Bujaber (Compulsive Visitor)

[Mathdino]

I mean we have 4 lynches and an insane amount of night actions to figure this shit out.

So at this point I just want a claim from the worst so we can lynch anyone in {Beefster, Bujaber, Not_Mafia, Marangal}.

the worst is the only one that can actually clear townies, which is good because we just have to identify people he's not scum with and have him clear them.
Kthx and Not_Mafia can identify who didn't perform the kill.
The kill was 100% performed by one of the following:
Mathdino: If anyone seriously scumreads me
the worst: Pls claim
Kthxbye: Who hypothetically hardbussed A50
Beefster: If he's a strongman jailkeeper
Bujaber
Marangal: If and only if she's scum with Not_Mafia.

So seeing as strongman makes me and Beefster useless and seeing as Bujaber is the hardest person among all of these to clear, we should lynch them in succession, then lynch N_M (to clear Marangal), then hopefully have some set of {me, the worst, Kthx} cleared as town to win LyLo.

[Kthxbye]

Alright, I'm sold on Dino being town or deserving to win this game as scum. Either way, he deserves a scummy (if those are still a thing).

[BuJaber]

I wasn't sheeping dino lol that's clear to anyone who read. Saying half-sheeped is a mud-slinging cop-out.

Does it matter how late I joined or not joined wagons when I've pushed for both acryon and A50 time and time again?


The description of mastina's death - do we read into it? Coz it sounds like he died on his own.

Anyway there's always a chance TW is scum but that's doubtful.

If beef somehow flips town because the fabric of the universe twists before his flip NM and mom are a team.

VOTE: beef
Think viable options for A50/acryon partners.

[Mathdino]

@Gamma Emerald:

Is the Carrot & Stick kill flavour game-relevant?

[Beefster]

I mean, you can go ahead and lynch me if it gives you peace of mind. The game is already pretty much solved. But I'm not scum.

Who did BuJ visit?

[BuJaber]

Dino which can't be proven.

[BuJaber]

Assuming mastina did in fact get killed instead of having some sort of modifier to her role:

If you're town you're power obviously cannot stop the kill so we don't need you anymore.
If you're scum we hit scum.

Unfortunately since mastina was too busy catching up we don't know for sure that she followed Dino's plan.

[BuJaber]

Your*

[BuJaber]

Though I've been thinking about a busdriver role since day 1 and I suppose that is possible and explains a few things.

[BuJaber]

You theoritically could have JK'd someone else

[BuJaber]

It's not on wiki.. what do you call it on MS? The role that reroutes actions.

[Mathdino]

Redirector

[Mathdino]

He couldn't have redirected both me and marangal on n1

[BuJaber]

Well yes but if he's town mom has to be scum anyway.

[BuJaber]

Just spewing theory I'm voting beef unless he gets mod confirmed as town in thread lol. I'll discuss alternatives if he flips town.

[Not_Mafia]

I think you guys are gonna just lynch the opposite of whoever I say to lynch so

VOTE: Beefster

Am I being truthful? BLuffing? Double bluffing? Triple bluffing? Dodecahedral bluffing? WHo can say

[BuJaber]

I don't think the answer is just 'strongman'. As in yes scum might have strongman but I refuse to believe all these claims. One of the remaining players is definitely fakeclaiming. So I am not basing reads strictly on what makes sense with the claims.

Who do you want to lynch NM? The only viable options for me are beef/Mom/you. If you're not happy with beef you definitely don't want the other 2.

[Beefster]

Assuming mastina did in fact get killed instead of having some sort of modifier to her role:

If you're town you're power obviously cannot stop the kill so we don't need you anymore.
If you're scum we hit scum.

Unfortunately since mastina was too busy catching up we don't know for sure that she followed Dino's plan.

Even if she didn't she wouldn't have been the one to die.

[Mathdino]

Wait we're not lynching until the worst fullclaims

[Beefster]

^ that

[Beefster]

@BuJ: claim your targets, please.

[Beefster]

TBF, it's a little late for that because he could easily lie with the most convenient target claims. We'd really need N_M or Kthx to confirm.

[BuJaber]

N1: Beef
N2: Mathdino


Worst case scenario with 2 scum alive: we can afford 1 mislynch.

Worst case scenario with 1 scum alive: we can afford 2 mislynches.

Anything better than worst case scenario (mislynch only without NK) we have more leeway.

I am lynching Beef/Mom/NM in that order assuming they live.

[Mathdino]

I mean then we just need more clears on those slots.

Lynch Beefster
the worst checks Marangal
Marangal holsters
Kthx follows Bujaber
Bujaber visits Kthxbye

Then either:
Not_Mafia checks anyone (should detect motion no matter what)
Mathdino protects the worst

or:
Not_Mafia checks Mathdino
Mathdino holsters