VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

OnTheMark · Post Post #275 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:16 am

How would you also feel if I said I didn’t townread Taly? @Chara

Chara · Post Post #276 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:18 am

ah, i thought you were making a vague meta point.
yes, that makes sense.

Taly did explain why they claimed, though.

pedit: i wouldn't really feel strongly about it. Taly hasn't done anything to be townread for.

baku and munna · Post Post #277 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:20 am

random checking in here, reading up now.
hi to everyone i've played with before, really looking forwards to the game

OnTheMark · Post Post #278 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:23 am

In post 276, Chara wrote:ah, i thought you were making a vague meta point.
yes, that makes sense.

Taly did explain why they claimed, though.

pedit: i wouldn't really feel strongly about it. Taly hasn't done anything to be townread for.

Taly gave a reason yes.

However it feels manufactured.

Specifically because they have two short posts one of which claiming confusion so they had read. So if they were confused about your original post and saw no one was claiming why didn’t they ask you how you felt or try to ascertain what was going on. By asking Taly why I can see if the slot was not reading as indicated before or they were and chose to delay posting content.

OnTheMark · Post Post #279 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:25 am

Like they had to have read to respond to later posts but at the same time are confused yet never ask a single question? It feels newb scum to me but they could be newb town. I want help in sorting Taly.

Hi Random. Hope to hear from Shiro soon.

OnTheMark · Post Post #280 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:29 am

Furthermore notice how your name is in bold?

I’d take a bet that Taly is going to claim copy catting your abilities to get out of bad check.

Taly, care to prove me wrong and never copycat Chara?

baku and munna · Post Post #281 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:00 am

In post 191, Chara wrote:hey, this argument is pointless, can we nix it. you're talking around each other. Mark's underlined bit means investigative roles to them, and his logic on this has been consistent. i don't think any more semantics are going to help.

In post 236, Shining Dreamers wrote:
In post 88, Maid Cafe wrote:I am going to claim something I prolly should have approached subtly but it heavily helps the town to target us with actions that grants our slots abilities/items/whatever you wanna call it. When we gain an ability as a result of another player/Creature's spell or ability (which is all actions) we will "power up", well not exactly but I don't really want to claim that part. But essentially just give us free stuff since it's more cost effective then giving other players stuff in a pretty meaningful way.
~B
I am fairly certain this is a >random scum ability.

Not just from a game design perspective, but from a Varsoon game design perspective.

It's the kind which
could
come from town, admittedly, yes. But it is still far >random odds of being a scum ability.

Claiming it openly does nothing to lessen that.

are people incapable of reading game mechanics?

ok so preliminary reads. I reckon Maid Cafe is town. i was agreeing to a large extent on their push on Mark. gonna put mark as a scumlean for now.
however, i am more confident in my scumlean on chara. they are townsignalling without actually generating any content. Seems like a better LAMIST.
RR is already a townread but i put very little stock in that bc i always tr them
venmar is a townlean, i respect the shitpost.
those were my main opinions on what I've read so far, will confer with Shiro before going more in depth.

Iconeum · Post Post #282 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:11 am

How do we even have claims?? GAME HASN'T STARTED YET

Venmar · Post Post #283 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:13 am

In post 281, baku and munna wrote:venmar is a townlean, i respect the shitpost

listen here fucko, i will not take that lying down

OnTheMark · Post Post #284 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:14 am

In post 282, Iconeum wrote:How do we even have claims?? GAME HASN'T STARTED YET

You gonna comment on anyone’s reads or alignment? Or just do the exact thing I just called out as scummy as fuck?

OnTheMark · Post Post #285 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:17 am

In post 283, Venmar wrote:
In post 281, baku and munna wrote:venmar is a townlean, i respect the shitpost
listen here fucko, i will not take that lying down

Then you can take my townlean and like it.

Venmar · Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:21 am

quick catchup; going to go ahead and lock in chara as probably town by play, and i feel pretty good about maid cafe as well.

we're making progress here people

OnTheMark · Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:23 am

And...just like that you’re back into null.

Cmon dude. Wake me up when you go go. Because that post is a no go.

Venmar · Post Post #288 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:24 am

is your thought process:

oh hey he made a joke, he's town!
oh hey's townreading a slot that's clashing with me, he might not be town!

or ??

OnTheMark · Post Post #289 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:27 am

In post 288, Venmar wrote:is your thought process:

oh hey he made a joke, he's town!
oh hey's townreading a slot that's clashing with me, he might not be town!

or ??

Nope.

It’s more you’re blatantly sheeping without reasons and I think you’re better than that.

It’s like you’re trying to escape the day without content. The joke made me think you were doing it to hide from scum then when that bad sheep post came up it pinged me bad so I went nope.

I townread Chara and Chara townreads Bee if memory serves. So nice try though.

Chara · Post Post #290 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:32 am

i don't townread Maid Cafe.

Chara · Post Post #291 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:34 am

Venmar, talk about why i'm town? mastina i'm not asking because i know exactly what her answer will be. the same is true for Mark.

Chara · Post Post #292 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:35 am

In post 281, baku and munna wrote:however, i am more confident in my scumlean on chara. they are townsignalling without actually generating any content. Seems like a better LAMIST.

<3
so, i try to be useless early game but fail because i hate watching people argue in circles, somehow accrue a bunch of early townreads anyway, and finally someone notices!

Maid Cafe · Post Post #293 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:38 am

Why did I have to hydra with Beeboy the one game he plays so far out of his scumrange that when I say it I'm "bias" cause I'm his hydra partner reee
~Maki

Venmar · Post Post #294 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:41 am

i don't think im sheeping anyone actually, lol. if i am its a pure coincidence since i just kind of skimmed the thread and those two reads were the ones that jumped out at me.

im townreading chara because of this post:

In post 207, Chara wrote:like this isn't AI. maybe it is but i wouldn't know how to look at it. i hate reading it, not because it's noise (i really don't care about noise), but because i can see what both of you are trying to say. but there's no clear communication, just a series of misinterpretations. that's why it's taking pages and pages to explain simple things on, now, both fronts.

which just screams "hey i'm town, slap that on me pls". chara here is giving genuine, well-intentioned guidance and structure to the discussion, and combined with chara's discussion regarding claims, which again feel like he's trying to steer us solely into town's benefits, i think chara is coming from a strong townie mindset

maid cafe is town because im mirror telling them regarding their points on onthemark and because i think their questioning of mark in general was a productive exercise of scumhunting

Maid Cafe · Post Post #295 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:41 am

In post 263, Taly wrote:Mastina's claim is anti-town but NAI?...

Yes, why do you say it like it's not? You can do anti town actions with good intent in mid or you can just be scum who did something anti town the overall thing is anti town I believe her emotions were genuine when she said her power was "game breaking" for scum or town? We don't know. Also how the fuck do people have so many reads. Oh the fact I don't have Chara as obv town yet makes it highly likely their scum btw but take that with a grain of salt
~Maki

Chara · Post Post #296 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:43 am

hm.
i mean, to be perfectly honest, i don't think i've done a very good jpb at not towntelling. if you take out the massclaim posts and the posts regarding bee vs. Math, i still have solving content. it isn't as though it's my fault everyone keeps claiming, thus necessitating a repetition of obvious things.
:>

Chara · Post Post #297 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:44 am

In post 295, Maid Cafe wrote:Oh the fact I don't have Chara as obv town yet makes it highly likely their scum btw but take that with a grain of salt
~Maki

<3 you Maki.

Maid Cafe · Post Post #298 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:45 am

In post 297, Chara wrote:
In post 295, Maid Cafe wrote:Oh the fact I don't have Chara as obv town yet makes it highly likely their scum btw but take that with a grain of salt
~Maki
<3 you Maki.

<3 you too qt

Maid Cafe · Post Post #299 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:54 am

In post 260, Skybird wrote:Right now, I feel like either Maid Cafe or OTM is scum, I'm not sure which one though leaning towards Maid Cafe. I didn't like 53 and 88 from them.

Tibor and Lumia ping town to me. That is a gut read.

Pre-edit: Thanks Phosphophyllite

If OTM is town (and that's quite possible) this flips scum all the time and I'll prob want to vote here

In post 262, Iconeum wrote:Skybird, Creature, RR, Shinding D townread.

Maid Café should respond to 237. I love how she bashes OTM for not responding, yet doesn't answer herself.

Maid scumreading right now. Maybe lyncher - lynchee with OTM. That would be hilarious

Why do you townread Skybird I assume it's for the post above because the other 3 posts are just greetings and considering skybird has prob the worst post in the game I'm interested to see your answer.
~Maki